More from Jason Cole of Yahoo! Sports

by Ed Valentine on Sep 7, 2009 7:00 AM EDT in News Comment 58 comments

Yesterday I posted thoughts about Eli Manning from Yahoo! Sports football columnist Jason Cole. We talked about many more things, so today let's delve into some of the other things Jason and I discussed.

Here is Cole's top four in the NFC.

Giants
Philadelphia
Arizona
Minnesota

The big question with the Giants, of course, is the wide receiver situation. Cole did not downplay the significance of the issue.

"It is a big deal. Quarterbacks don't like to throw to guys they don't trust," Cole said. "Steve Smith is a good receiver on third downs, but he's no threat."

Still, Cole sees the Giants as a serious contender in the NFC.

"The Giants will do enough with their defense early in the season, and then if they can somehow figure out the wide receiver situation ... if (Hakeem) Nicks can become a player or Manning learns how to distribute the ball and learns how to trust Manningham and Hixon then there's a possibility that they jump ahead.

"Maybe early in the season the Giants are gonna struggle to score points, but their defense will keep them in games. Their number two line would be better than a lot of other defensive lines around the league."

As fans, we will spend a lot of energy watching the Eagles and worrying about whether or not the Giants will win the NFC East title. To Cole, that is not the most important thing. That would be how well a team is playing once it gets to the playoffs.

"What matters more is are you playing effective football at the end of the season vs. the beginning. For the first 12 games of the (2008) season the Giants were pretty much the ruler of the roost. Then Jacobs gets banged up and they lose their best receiver and all of a sudden their offense is not close to being what it was.

"That's how much one or two players make the difference in the NFL now.

"Are you on the upswing at the end of the season or are you on the downswing? That one is hard to figure out because injuries make such a huge difference."

Cole did say he likes the way the Giants are constructed more than any of the other NFC contenders.

"I think the Giants are built the best because they are the strongest up front.The front seven is the best."

Since we were talking about the NFC I could not let Cole go without talking about that new quarterback in Minnesota. Cole did not have complimentary things to say about Brett Favre. I asked him initially if he thought Favre, who faded down the stretch for the New York Jets last season, could still play effectively for a full season.

"When is the last time he was an effective quarterback at the end of the season?" was Cole's response. "Last season you saw it -- the last five games he was not good."

At this point, Cole was just warming to the task of shredding 'ole No. 4.

"He played very, very well during the 2007 season but in the end, when it was all to be decided, he threw two interceptions in the second half of that game against the Giants that are just God-awful throws. Especially the one in overtime is a throw that no quarterback beyond his second year in the league should make. Sorry, that's a horrendous throw. It was not a great defensive play by the Giants, the ball was just tossed up for grabs."

"He hasn't had a lot of playoff success lately. I don't know what he has left at the end of the season."

By now, Cole was on a roll and I was just listening.

"I understand (Minnesota coach) Brad Childress would rather bet on him than bet on Sage Rosenfels or Tarvaris Jackson," Cole said. "I get that, but he's put his team on this high-wire act. If Favre slips at all it's not just a fall back a little bit and let's rally around the guy. They're all gonna be looking at Childress going 'hey, why did you do this -- why did we bring this guy in if he can't make the plays anymore?'

"He puts the psyche of the team on a precipice. That makes for an all-or-nothing kind of season."

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The Vikings could easily end up third in their division.

Green Bay may just be the team to beat. They are the most settled at qarterback, while at Chicago Cutler can’t help but improve the Bears offense which may be enough of an improvement to contend for the division title.

I certainly don’t see the Vikings running away with this one, even though they do have the best runner in the game. Just remember, the Bears, even with Walter Peyton who was just as spectacular as AP, and sporting a great defense couldn’t win consistantly.

by giant fan since 57 on Sep 7, 2009 8:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Agreed about the Vikes

I don’t know what NFL coaches think they are getting with this guy. 07 he was great from start to finish but that was the first time really since 02 or 03 he had a really good year. People think I’m crazy for saying this but at this point in his carrer he is a backup at best.

by Landeta on Sep 7, 2009 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

agreed...

if green bay can get back to playing defense like they did in ’07 they will win the North.

by andiamo708 on Sep 7, 2009 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Green Bays D

is not going to be very impressive. Thier CB are ancient and at least 1 is guarenteed to be injured. Great draft tho

by matth313 on Sep 7, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

they are aging..but put up very solid numbers last year

You can refer to my post about “best cornerbacks in football”…I think they were both in the top 5. (Harris and Woodson)

I also think GB has one of the best secondaries in football with Bigby and Nick Collins at safety.

It’s still and IF but i think if they can stop the run they’ll be good.

by andiamo708 on Sep 7, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Giant Predictions

Not that I hope any of this happens but..

- The D- Line strategy will prove to work. Fresh DTs will allow the top 3 DEs to have GREAT seasons!

- Sintim will play lots – fast. AP will regress quickly, to the point where his physical shortcomings almost outweigh his smarts.

- Manning will have an average year. Receptions will be spread around. Hicks will come on mid year to be the star they need. But the passing game will be just enough to win – no more.

- Bradshaw will get more carries than anyone thought and if KG allows him to play through mistakes will provide great, almost Ward-like stats.

- Beatty wil play a lot (injuries?) and after a rough start prove to be an NFL tackle. He will start in 2010.

- Terrell Thomas will start Game One and never relinquish the position to Ross.

by MSP Giant on Sep 7, 2009 9:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

What do you mean?

You make some good points but hope it is does happen.

As a Giants fan I hope they all happen – I will take Eli having an average season of 3,000 yards, 60% comp and over 20 TD’s.

If most of the above happen we should make the playoffs.

by G Fan in England on Sep 7, 2009 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I mean Hope it does not happen

by G Fan in England on Sep 7, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't like to make predictions

beause the game has a way of changing before they can come true.

I am a little concerned about our defense. Not that we don’t have the best defensive line in football, but because everyone else has had two years to figure out ways to negate the pressure. One of those ways that we will be seeing this year is quick passes to receivers being covered by our linebackers. That’s what Philly does to us with Westbrook.

by giant fan since 57 on Sep 7, 2009 9:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

4 DL pressure

The coaches are hoping that the front 4 can get enough pressure so that the LB’s can clog the quick passing lanes and the corners can bump at the line to put timing patterns off.

Although the playoff loss to the Eagles still stings we were only one or two bad plays from being able to control the game. Not saying we would have won, but playoff games are sometimes lost by small margins.

Plays I can think off – the opening kickoff and first play pass to Smith, Eli’s almost pick six to Samuel, the 3rd and 20 play and Robbins Int . Change any two of those and I believe we win.

by G Fan in England on Sep 7, 2009 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

not to mention

if carney wouldn’t have choked, the game could have been completely different

by bmanley620 on Sep 7, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree.

here’s the problem…I don’t see the front 4 being “ready” enough to get the QB w/out help. Here’s why, Cofield coming off knee surgery, Robbins coming of knee surgery, Osi being out a whole year, and Bernard missing practically all of camp. Don’t even get me started w/ Tuck and these damn bone spurs.

HOWEVER, these guys are all healthy (hopefully)… Its’ juts a matter of getting comfortable and feeling good on those knees. it will defenitely happen..but they’re not there yet.

Sheidan has to stress to the LB’s to hide the blitz. they’re giving it away and even half decent Olinemen can pick them up. If you noticed Sheridan was running a lot more stunts vs. NE. Tuck got a sack on a stunt and I saw another one when Dockery almost intercepted that pass. Sheridan must also stay aggresive…and help out the front 4 with blitzes until they’re all back to normal.

by andiamo708 on Sep 7, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

DT position hs depth

If Canty, Robbins, Coefield and Bernard only play 50% of the game each..G men are all set.

At DE Kiwanuka is healthy, so is Osi. Tuck gets limited snaps and Tollefson fills the rest.

The Giants will have top quality DL in for every snap.

Not sure why you worry andiamo.

by MSP Giant on Sep 7, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

predictions

I’m afraid secondary and linebackers will prevent defense from dominating and don’t think Eli has learned to throw a spiral into the wind yet.

by pablob on Sep 7, 2009 9:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Cole makes some good points...but I disagree with one.

I just have a funny feeling that this offense will actually carry the team while the defense sorts things out. Sheridan is still learning on the job.

Canty, Ross, and Boley are no where near “game shape”.

But more importantly this offense is making big strides each week. Who would have thought that Nicks would have played this well this early…especially after missing some time in camp. Jacobs, Bradshaw, and Ware look good. Gilbride showed me a lot last game with some of those play calls.

With our #1 oline playing every down…if they can give Eli some time I think the offense is really going to start clicking. I really do…i know it sounds crazy but I think we’ll move the ball well.

by andiamo708 on Sep 7, 2009 9:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Not sure about that..

Our team has a history of great defenses..I think though that with our running game..and a learning curve receiver group will evolve in time for the playoff run..I think we’ll rely as always on defense and then at the end we’ll be on all eight cylinders..The rest of the league will suffer for participating in the “cash for clunkers” program.

by Bobbiblue on Sep 7, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't doubt that our Defense will be great...

I’m just worried about what our Nickle and Dime package will look like w/out Ross. The absensce of Canty. Boley getting up to speed right away. Cofield and Robbins coming off knee surgery. Tuck and his foot. And Sheridans ability to get at the QB.

A lot of these are unknowns right now.

We know we’ll be able to run the ball, I think that will be there. I’m atually looking forward to what Eli can do w/ this group of WR’s. Call me crazy.

by andiamo708 on Sep 7, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

All very valid points..

But remember what AP said the other day about changing DCs..He said he’s been thru 10 in his career (I think he said)..but his message was that the same players for the most part are intact..and know what they have to do on the field..Hopefully, he doesn’t get injured because I don’t think we have a guy to come in and call the shots on the field under game pressure. That would be a big problem…What he lacks these days in speed etc.. has not hindered his ability to run the defense out there on the field where it ultimately counts..I would argue that the defense calls more audibles on the field of play than the offenses do.

by Bobbiblue on Sep 7, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The redskins have their own woes going on as well

it’s a good first game matchup for the G-men bc J. Campell has his own problems with the redskins offense. If our D-fense isn’t up to snuff by week 1 we should be ok against this team. This buys us more time to work Canty, Boley, and Ross into the defensive scheme come week 2.

Drawing the skins in the first game of the season is a blessing for us at this moment in time

by 732jerseyP on Sep 7, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

As Parcells always...said

The goal is to get to the"Tournament"..Then that when you have to have your “game on”.

by Bobbiblue on Sep 7, 2009 10:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Well said, Jason Cole, well said.

God, I hate Favre.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Sep 7, 2009 11:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

There's no way you can hate a guy like Brett Favre..

Whether or not he can last a season or not is a big question, but he still has that rocket launcher arm and wants to play the game..big deal..let him play..I love the guy…However when our Giants cut Phil Simms. He decided that it was over, even though he still had game in him..He took basically an insulting end but stayed faithfull to the Giants..and didn’t shop himself around..It pissed me off that they did that to him, but they made it up to him later. The Packers did the same with Favre..but his reaction was different..Old, beat-up after the season…immediatley makes a retirement announcement..then starts to feel better and decides to go again. Our guy Simms just decided to say good-bye to the game..Simms in my mind belongs in the HOF..He took our team (twice really ‘cus he lead them to 12-0 before getting hurt) to two Championships..Favre is a lock for the HOF..Phil is a question mark..He for the majority of his career had nowbody to throw to..yet he won..He was tough, and he found a way to get it done. Him and Parcells always “went at it”..but he got it done. I say let’s Favre learn when he is really done and not blast him..Screw these fat, obese “Sports Reporters”..I really could care less what their opinions are. I watch the games myself (for 47 years) I don’t need their “Couch Opinions”..and I don’t need most of the game announcers in order to see and understand a game progressing..When “Moose” Johntson is calling a game, I mute it..Jaws..I mute it..Kornholer..mute it….on and on.

by Bobbiblue on Sep 7, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ouch, wall of text!

i think people like squid92 hate him because of the media storm that follows his every move. it’s easy to forget his pros and cons amidst all of that.

by catsmeat84 on Sep 7, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I dislike Favre

because he is all about himself. He manipulates the system and plays this “aw shucks” role, and people fawn over him like it’s still 1996. If I hear one more time how much “he loves the game” and he has a big smile as he tosses the ol’ pigskin around with high schoolers I’m gonna puke. Yeah he loves the game, on his terms, when it’s not too hot or not too cold, and he could give a damn about his team. After the Vikes and their pansy of a coached caved in to his demands and signed him, he kept saying what a great teammate he was…and yet nobody who played with him the last five years was out there supporting him. Interesting. Look at how every season of his has ended in the last seven years. Every single time the Packers were in a clutch situation he has flamed out spectacularly, but nobody calls him out on it. He’s just a lying dbag, and I for one am happy to see him go to a possible competitor because we just have to get him outside in January to see his true colors shine through. Assuming he survives to the end of the season.

Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!

by bigbluethruandthru on Sep 7, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You are obviously..

Listening and believing petty sport reporters..when you listen to Favre being interviewed, you can see how irritating it is on him..Do I think he should retire?..Yes I do..But he wants to play..Big deal..Is it revenge? no..If Childress was coaching a team in “Bum – F -Egypt” he would want him..If he decides to be a back-up I would like him on our team.

by Bobbiblue on Sep 7, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

actually...

i’m living proof that you can hate a guy like brett favre. he’s selfish and thinks that the NFL world should revolve around him. he doesn’t care about the team he plays for. what kind of a message does it send to the rest of the vikings players that busted their (butts) in training camp while favre sat at home. now he comes in and wants the spotlight on him. year after year he does the same thing. you can’t even turn on espn for 5 minutes without hearing the same repetitive news about him. how could you not hate that?

by bmanley620 on Sep 7, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's really kinda not true.

Favre wasn’t cut by the Packers. He retired, the Packers made a point of saying goodbye, and moved on, as any team would. But then he decided he wanted to come back. And that’s not really fair, to demand a starting job after giving it up. If I quit my job and came back a few weeks later, you think my boss would give it to me, no questions asked, especially when I’d spent the last few years publicly wondering if I’d quit.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Sep 7, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry for the rather large rant..

But your absolutey right..the media has nothing more to do than disparage a guy like Favre..Does anyone out here think it is revenge? That motivates Favre?..I say BS..I guess that is the media’s way of trying to convince us of crap that is not true..The guy is a multi-millionaire..39 years old and still wants to play..These reporters need crap to foam up to justify their petty salaries..and alot of folks out here are biting that bullcrap.

by Bobbiblue on Sep 7, 2009 11:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Really?

do you read Peter King at all? The one time in the last 43 articles he’s written about Favre he said a cross word was when it came out that Favre had lied to his face. Again.

Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!

by bigbluethruandthru on Sep 7, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

No I don't read that idiot's articles..Peter King..big deal..

by Bobbiblue on Sep 7, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And if you think..

A player like Favre says he is done and changes his mind after feeling better..Screw that Peter King. I am happy ’ol Peter expert King got dissed..
poor guy..What a jerk.

by Bobbiblue on Sep 7, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

C'mon bro

You can’t tell me he was feeling bad in June and then felt better in August? What is the other possible factor that could be influencing his decision within that time frame?

Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!

by bigbluethruandthru on Sep 7, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He wanted to make sure his arm felt good is all..

and the Doctor’s said his shoulder (rotator cuff) was alright..Obviously he was training all summer..with kids, but training..I wish my kid was there on the field with him..

by Bobbiblue on Sep 7, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Somehow I don't see

tossing out patterns to high schoolers the same as goignt through two a days with his real team. We’ll see if he holds up the whole season.

Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!

by bigbluethruandthru on Sep 7, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Before and After

I used to like Brett alot. I thought he was a classy player and played with his heart on his sleeve. I still feel like he is however I became somewhat annoyed with the media frenzy that encircles his choices. Can’t really blame Brett for choosing to come back late. The media just blows it all out of the water really so.

by wangstu13 on Sep 7, 2009 3:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

He is a classy player..

Are we to let fat-ass obese media guys change that opinion we’ve developed of him?..Bob Costas..What a short little twirp..He couldn’t hit the net with a basketball..but everybody thinks he is an expert and knowledgable sports expert. They have to put three pillows under his butt so you can see him on camera..little dope..gime a break..We who have watched every game for years and years know more than these morons will ever know. Brett Favre is a great QB..leave him alone..He’ll know when it is truly over, and we all owe him that…Screw the idiot media..The best reports we get is from each other..Ed Valentine and Co. (that “Co” is us)..I’ve been a Giants fan since 1956..didn’t really understand the game until I was 6 (1962)..We really don’t need all these jerks in the media..but guys like Phil, Troy, Madden, Summerall, we can listen to them..their champs.

by Bobbiblue on Sep 7, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

As a curiosity

what makes you believe he is a classy player? What has he shown in the last decade that makes you see him as someone who is not just out for his own records? The man does not play smart football, and I don’t see this media bias because he rarely gets called out for it. If he is such a great teammate, again, where are all his ex mates backing him up?

Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!

by bigbluethruandthru on Sep 7, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well he is a class player..

The only people dissing him are the fat-butt writers..the players love the guy..If Ed or somebody could get a take from his teamates to the contrary, I’ll probably change my view. Right now, to me he just wants to play the game..He doesn’t need the money, the only stats he can wrack up if he can’t get the job done is interceptions. I really don’t think he cares about statistics. Only the sports writers do. Let’s let him alone ..I really only care about our team but I can’t stand all this Favre hatred..It just is not right.

by Bobbiblue on Sep 7, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Really?

You didn’t read any of the comments coming out of the Jets about how he dressed in a different room and held himself off from the other players? I go the other way, I would love to hear a comment from a former teammate of his from the last five years in his support. I think he cares very much about his records, go back and look at the circumstances when he threw his record breaking TD. And if his arm was hurt so bad last year that it affected his play so much, why did he keep going out and hurting his team with his play? I see that as him trying to keep his streak alive. To me, there is only so many times that you don’t play smart football, and tell people flat out lies before you lose the “classy” tag

Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!

by bigbluethruandthru on Sep 7, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Here's one

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3804004&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines

Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!

by bigbluethruandthru on Sep 7, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

This is what I mean when I say he doesn't play smart football

http://funnycrave.com/brett-favres-6-greatest-interception-fests-of-all-time/1497/

Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!

by bigbluethruandthru on Sep 7, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Point well taken

But the Jet receivers did idolize him..they had troubles catching his bullets, but yes he did wear out in the end..Damn shame..but guys like Favre are going to refuse to complain. He had an operation and worked out and decided to play again..I heard no complaints about teamates on the Jets regarding him having his own special locker box..If he did than perhaps his rifle arm is bigger than his “Uncle Willy and the Twins”..

by Bobbiblue on Sep 7, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Honestly, I cant see us winning the division with our receiving core

I hope I am wrong though.

Gary Thorne=Simply the Best!

by The American Mr.Hockey on Sep 7, 2009 4:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I differ..

I think these guys are going to do fine..Might take a few games, but I think they’ll do fine..

by Bobbiblue on Sep 7, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Now on this

I completely agree with you :)

Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!

by bigbluethruandthru on Sep 7, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Santana Moss

(IMO) is the most dangerous receiver in the Beast, and the Skins don’t scare me at all. We’ll be ok. Just take 2 aspirins and call me in December.

by njgiant on Sep 7, 2009 4:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah..

If Moss stays healthy..watch out.

by Bobbiblue on Sep 7, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

We should take two aspirins per week, though..

LOL..that’s 38 total (I think)

by Bobbiblue on Sep 7, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lot's of speed in the front seven, but will we still be able to stop the run?

Is it only me, or is anyone else concerned that we have focused too much on the pass rush? I don’t see us going into the season as a team that can shut down the rush. Have we gone too fat trying to be the fastest into the backfield without retaining our ability to be a run shut down defense? Even in linebacking we have added Sintim, a speed rusher. And AP of 2009 is not AP of earlier in his career.
A speed rush is great when you are a high scoring team knowing that the other team will be playing catch-up the whole game, but won’t wel probably be playing close games with a battle of ball control. Is our defense actually built for that? My concern is that we will be surprised to learn that teams are suddenly able to run against us.

by Spider Lockhart on Sep 7, 2009 8:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Tackles

Cofield, Robbins and Bernard are run-stuffers first. Canty as well, probably. The question really will be whether AP can step up and make plays, because the tackles should hold up just fine.

by Ed Valentine on Sep 7, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think they'll do just fine

If they can penetrate the line they’ll knock ball carriers down..AP is key though, he alls the shot out there..We have nobody else that can do that right now.

by Bobbiblue on Sep 7, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I meant calls all the shots..I type too fast dang-it

by Bobbiblue on Sep 7, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

and what about on the edges?

i was a bit concerned about what I saw that Matt Forte was able to do against us, going around the edges

by Spider Lockhart on Sep 7, 2009 8:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

preseason...

Matt Forte should do his thing….but it shouldn’t happen again..

and if it does…lets pray that its early in the season (tho seeing Portis and Barber/Jones/Choice rip up the Giants D would make me puke), cuz we can fix it.

GODZZIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Sep 7, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Forte had two big plays

the rest of his carries averaged about 1 yard per. There was one major play that looked as bad as it actually was, but we really did bottle him up pretty decent. His numbers were 9 carries for 58 yards. Take away the 32 yd TD and a 17 yarder he had, and he gets 7 carries for 9 yards. If we eliminate the big play I think we can live with those numbers.

Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!

by bigbluethruandthru on Sep 7, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree with you..

We’ll see the real deal on opening day..Nobody shows their cards until then.

by Bobbiblue on Sep 7, 2009 10:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Linebackers needed?

I find it surprising that all preseason long everyone has been focused on the WR’s with concerns. We have a 1st rounder, 2 second rounders, 3 third rounders (one of which could have been a late first rounder) a 4th rounder, three good pass catching tight ends (new additon from tampa bay), a good pass catching RB and a franchise quarterback. We also have a head coach who spent much of his career as a reciever’s coach. And it seems many people feel we should have traded one of our top DL’s for Edwards or Boldin. It seems rather to me with a bit of patience, we have the best collection of WR’s in Giants history. With a little patience. Maybe even a year.
But the Giants have always been a team of storied LB’s. How are we building our future, or even our present with LB’s? Sintim looks like a great addition, but isn’t he more of an LB/DE hybrid? It seems that we have no one ready to step in to carry on the tradition of Harry Carson, and as good as AP has been, he has distractions and perhaps is on the downward half of his career. Who do we plug in behind him? Why weren’t we talking about that instead of the WR’s this preseason? Who is AP mentoring to pass the baton? Isn’t MLB, after offensive lineman, the most important job for the success of a team? It seems we haven’t been pointing our finger as much at our most obvious weakness and insisting that we trade for an MLB and more classic OLB’s. We probably have two or three Homer Jones’s in there. Who will be our Carl Banks, Gary Reasons, Harry Carson?

by Spider Lockhart on Sep 7, 2009 10:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs