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Eli, get your earplugs on! Cancel your Internet and newspapers, too!

The pre-Super Bowl MVP version of Eli Manning spent much of his first four years in the NFL being treated like a pinata by New York Giants fans, Giants haters and media members. Alternately hailed as a future star by some and belittled as the worst Manning by others. Praised for his successes, ripped mercilessly for his shortcomings.

The Super Bowl MVP honor and four straight playoff appearances have largely quieted much of the Eli-bashing, except for the occasional strange rant by certain off the wall fans who will never be happy. He is now the NFL's highest-paid player, and is entrenched as Giants' quarterback for at least the next seven seasons.

Well, Jason Cole, national football columnist for Yahoo! Sports, told me recently that he believes Eli had better to prepared to face an avalanche of criticism if the Giants offense struggles at the beginning of the season. And I think we all know that is a very real possibility.

"This is an interesting season for Eli. Prior to this they did a good job of making sure he was surrounded by some good skill-position people," Cole said. "You take away the two top receivers ... that tries the patience of a lot of quarterbacks. I think he's going to have to be very patient while those guys develop and I think that he's gonna have to take a lot of heat and a lot of criticism from people when that offense struggles.

"He just signed this big contract. I don't have a problem with the contract because that's the cost of doing business -- if you have a guy that you think is a franchise guy you have to pay him, you don't have a choice."

"Given all those factors he is going to endure as much criticism as he has ever gotten, perhaps more if they're not really good the first four or five games on offense and the probably won't be.

"He's gonna hear it, the pressure's gonna be on him. I don't necessarily say that that's fair, but that's reality. He signed the contract."

Star-divide

I can't argue with Cole at all on this point. It is inevitable. In fact, we have already begun to see it. Check the Open Thread from last weekend's game against the Jets and you will see what I mean. Lots of gnashing of teeth over Eli's 9-for-21 numbers, despite the fact that there were a bunch of drops (I'm talking about you, Steve Smith) and a couple of other miscues by receivers.

These things are not Eli's fault. He is, however, the quarterback of a New York team that has high expectations. The first time he throws a Pick Six when a receiver runs a wrong route, or puts up awful numbers in a game the Giants lose, a whole new round of Eli-bashing will begin. So, brace for it. It's coming.

I will take it a step further, though.We all know that bashing is going to include a fair share of vitriol aimed at offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride.

KG engenders a good deal of hatred among Giants fans (you know who you are and you're proud of it) even when things are going well for the offense. I cringe at the thought of what will be said in the comments if and when the Giants perform poorly in some games this season.

Patience is not something that comes easily to the New York sports fan -- especially a fired up, emotional Giants fan. My plea, though, is for you to try and have some. As I tried to say the other day, if this team stays healthy it is likely to be better at the end of the season than it will be at the beginning -- especially on offense.

Here is what I wrote a few days ago.

For me, I will worry more about how quickly the defense finds itself than I will about the receivers. The Giants built this team thinking that group would be dominant from the beginning as the offense worked to find its footing. Right now, it's really Sheridan & Co. that should be feeling the weight of expectations, not quarterback Eli Manning and his stable of young receivers.

Things will be fine. Remember, with a Super Bowl championship and an NFC East crown the past two seasons, Giants fans have been spoiled. This group is immensely talented, but it is a different group than that of the past two seasons. It will take time to fit all the pieces. Just expect a few bumps, and have the patience to let the situation develop. I think the end result is going to be a good one.

Try to remember that the first time you want to jettison Eli for David Carr. Or, wish that Kevin Gilbride would suddenly decide to join Ray Handley in hiding. Or wish for Brandon Marshall.

Have some patience. You're going to need it.

[NOTE: There is plenty more to the conversation I had with Jason Cole. I will post more from that interview tomorrow.]

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I think that as long as they stick to a gameplan

of short underneath routes with Smith, some up the middle and out routes with Boss, and a little of the same with guys like Hixon, Manningham and Moss (while also taking a few shots downfield), I think they’ll be fine.

I really hope Boss is incorporated more; you always hear that the TE is such a safety valve for the QB and I think that if he was used like that more in addition to the plays called for him, you’d see a more consistent Eli.

I know KB blocks a lot, but Im talking something like stay in to block and wait a few seconds, if nothing’s there, peal out and let Eli hit you for a short gain.

I know I’ll be all over the offense if they struggle. I mean I really doubt that the offense struggles like the defense did to start out 07, we all know we have this 3-headed monster in the backfield. 8 in the box didn’t really work out that well against Carolina now did it?

The offense will be fine; so will the Eli haters. Like any QB, he’ll have his bad series. Hopefully the D and running game pick him up.

…..Oh and Gilbride….Its really OK to call the same passing play twice in one season. Just cuz the other team gets in on film, doesn’t mean they’ll be ready for it every play.

GODZZIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Sep 6, 2009 7:57 AM EDT reply actions  

and lol at the mention of Ray Handley....

we Giants fans have been spoiled the past few years. In short….Gilbride is NOT Ray Handley.

Oh…and I didn’t mention the new guys in Nicks, Barden and Beckum. I actually can’t remember even seeing Beckum catch a pass in preseason (Im sure he did…), but these are 3 very talented weapons the Giants have gotten.

Nicks I think could make an impact right away, Ive seen nothing from him to suggest there is gonna be a huge learning curve.

The other 2 Im not so sure, tho Barden really didn’t disappoint either. I think you might see him in week 1, maybe even Beckum. But only situationally, like maybe they put either in when they are at the 30 yd line and want to throw a ball up for grabs with Barden out there..or maybe….

Or maybe they should be playing THIS week dammit……

GODZZIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Sep 6, 2009 8:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

for that last sentence. After all the college games yesterday I’m so ready for the NFL

by cjmulrain on Sep 6, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just got done watching

the final preseason game. I thought it was an impressive offensive display.
Everyone loves to be a critic. I hate journalist sportswriters LOL!

Why would Eli need a go to guy anyway? He likes to spread the ball around, and I am sure he will with all the talent he has now.

This could be there biggest offensive year in a long time. I could be wrong but we will find out Sept. 13th

by Tricon11 on Sep 6, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

what color.....

is the sky on this moron’s planet?anyone who just watched the highlights of the jets game knows that if the wr’s hang on to the ball,eli leaves the game 12 of 15 with 3 td’s of over 60 yds.fans gnashing their teeth at the wr’s, not eli,and beleive me ,i’m no eli lover!

derek de pinho

by rbcarpenter on Sep 6, 2009 8:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Pre season my friend

Very vanilla on both parts. So even if they did catch those balls and had those stats, it stillw ouldn’t mean much

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!

by Joe_D on Sep 6, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

eli's vacation in mexico

it.‘s really not fair, it’s really not fair, he’s my teammate, he’s my quarterback….

by Spider Lockhart on Sep 6, 2009 9:35 AM EDT reply actions  

As the starting QB in NY

you get all the acclaim and all the blame. As much heat as he took when times were bad, he also got a lot of the credit for the championship. The great thing about Eli is that no matter which way the winds are blowing he handles it all even keeled. Anyway, your point is a great one Ed, let’s have a little patience with this offense at the beginning of the year. They’ll get there.

by potroast on Sep 6, 2009 9:45 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

You're right re Eli's personality, pot.

He has the perfect disposition for a QB, particularly one playing in NY. Like any QB, he has his weaknesses. He throws high at times. He can’t run (although he’s surprisingly elusive in the pocket.) The chemistry with him and his young receivers seems to be improving. I’m sure it will get better over time.
I’d like to see him improve on windy days at home. (A lot of that depends on game planning.) He has no problem with frigid temps alone, and that’s a plus.
I don’t see how you can argue that he isn’t at least among the top ten QBs in the NFL, which is plenty good enough to lead a team to an SB win. Considering the size of the contract he was given, you’ve got to believe that more knowledgable football guys than any BBVer believe he’s beter than that, or will be.

by blue gonz on Sep 6, 2009 10:22 AM EDT reply actions  

top 10?

Statisitcally, he was 14th in the league last year. Very average. True, the Plaxico thing was a setback but on the other hand, he had a much better than average o-line and running game to work with. If he’s in the top 10, then he’s about 10th in my book. To be the highest paid player in the NFL? I doubt he’s even in the top 50 players in the NFL. But what choice did the Giants have? Either pay him or get a new quarterback? Are they ready for that crapshoot? Obviously, not. Like Eli, Simms was also an average quarterback with the right personality for the job. And he got a lot accomplished, too. Nothing wrong with being an average NFL quarterback.

by hopeforthefuture3 on Sep 7, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

yup

besides that..

i think hes one of the most clutch qbs in the league.. the 4th quarter in the SB earned him his new paycheck..

dont u notice how good he is whenever he runs a two min drill and gets to call his own plays.. hes just like peyton in that sense..

by Moshe52792 on Sep 7, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Patience is a virtue

not many NY’ers share. I, on the otherhand, remember Brown, Kanell, and Graham all too well. Eli was a big part of bringing me one of the best days I can remember. Our qb is the LEAST of my worries and whatever happens, I’m just glad ive been able to see such a great team the past two year. Everything since SB42 is icing to me.

by daveh873 on Sep 6, 2009 10:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Those of you that noted..

Eli’s disposition/personality are right on..When Eli first came in he drove me nuts..I thought he looked like a deer in headlights..When he called a timeout he would walk to the sidelines vs. hustle over..(He still does)..but then over time I began to see simply a kid with nerves of steel..calm, cool and collected…Another great trait is the fact that he is an “under the radar guy” off of the field..He married his college sweetheart, and his idea of off-field recreation is going out with his Mom antique hunting. His answer when asked about how much he liked NY nightlife was: “Oh I can see the City from my condo”…You’ll never read about him going out partying with a gun stashed in his undies. His Super Bowl performance and subsequent MVP honors, didn’t swell his head one bit..He, when asked simply said: “that was in the past, we need to look towards the future”…He is a perfect fit for NY..We can become impatient and will at times, but it definitley won’t faze him at all. He does have to work on his mechanics (tending to throw too high, and withstanding windy conditions) but that will come, afterall his brother has always said Eli has a stronger arm..Now that is an endorsement!! His patience will bring the recievers up to speed quickly and build their confidence. Any impatience on our part as fans is a mute point.

by Bobbiblue on Sep 6, 2009 11:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Eli

Huge Giant fan, but that trade to get Eli for Rivers and bunch of high draft picks is one of the worst moves in years!

by pablob on Sep 6, 2009 11:46 AM EDT reply actions  

wrong......

if you actually decided to go and take a gander and the talent level on both teams, Rivers has 2 Plaxico Burress on his team in Vincent Jackson and Malcolm Floyd, Chris Chambers and Antonio Gates are nice weapons too. Also that LT guy is not bad, even if the LT moniker is not his.

Rivers has a bit more talent on his roster not to mention playing in sunny San Diego for 8 games a year.
…..and Eli’s won a bowl. I personally wouldn’t give the crap I just took about his stats.

It was one of the best moves. Rivers would have NEVER BEEN ABLE TO HANDLE NY!

GODZZIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Sep 6, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

+1

"We'll show up tomorrow and do the same thing we try to do every day, Kick Pedroia's ass in cribbage and try and win a baseball game."

by tito (eight and oh) on Sep 8, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow, really? I’m sorry, but I cannot for the life of me understand how you can possibly say that after the guy won the FREAKIN SUPER BOWL MVP!!!

Not to get riled up, but comments like this just bug the ever living snot out of me.

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Sep 6, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

+1

"We'll show up tomorrow and do the same thing we try to do every day, Kick Pedroia's ass in cribbage and try and win a baseball game."

by tito (eight and oh) on Sep 8, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

not to mention...

Merriman had steroid issues, and just recently got arrested for supposedly choking his girlfriend. Hate to lose a talent like that but in hind sight I’m not exactly distraught considering the giants have a few pretty good DE’s themselves.

by andiamo708 on Sep 6, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

And how about the latest nugget on Merriman?

Shawne Merriman arrested

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Sep 6, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

hater

thats a very ignorant and unwarranted statement…besides ‘pablob’, you sound like a Cowboys fan

by gmen0708 on Sep 7, 2009 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Strongly Disagree.

"We'll show up tomorrow and do the same thing we try to do every day, Kick Pedroia's ass in cribbage and try and win a baseball game."

by tito (eight and oh) on Sep 8, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK I'll bite

where is ray handley? I wanna know where to buy KGs’ bus ticket when we pass on 3rd and 11/2!

by jerseybillfromva on Sep 6, 2009 11:48 AM EDT reply actions  

you know what...

there’s nothing wrong w/ throwing on 3rd down…but make the right call you know? KG has a tendency to really give away his plays…everyone knows when it’s a run play or pass play, with the exception of the “play action” pass. Boss MUST be more invovled in the offense. I dont care how many TD’s he had last year, 33 receptions was flat out unacceptable.

I’m not giving KG a hard time now…in fact I think he called a great game vs. NE in the first half. But his game plan must continue to evolve w/ the players we now have.

I also think that if KG does not make these changes than we as fans have every right in the world to criticize him all we want. Yes, he has a good background….success pretty much ever where he went…but he also ran out his stay pretty quickly and I’m pretty sure his Giant tenure is quite longer than any other gig he’s had.

by andiamo708 on Sep 6, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

sure

 when ya got Rice n Taylor n Jones catchin the ball and your “big” back is Roger Craig.

by jerseybillfromva on Sep 6, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmm...Ray Handley..

He is probably on his front porch in a rocking chair, dealing with the Alzhiemers he suffered from as a head coach…Trying to remember whether it is his porch..

by Bobbiblue on Sep 6, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

ehhhh....Eli does catch some heat

but I really think Eli’s gotten over the hump…yes, he’s going to throw the ball high here and there, we as fans have come to accept this…but we’ve also acknowledge that Eli has gotten better each year (stats wise his first 3 seasons were very similar) but you could see the confidence he gained and it really showed last year.

I think as fans we’ve come to realize the problem here is not ALL eli but his WR’s as well. I think they’ll take more heat if they continue to drop the ball instaed of Eli.

Remember Eli gets everyone lined up on offense and is a huge contribution to the Running game. Trent Dilfer ranked Eli the 7th QB in the league. You don’t see Eli yelling at fans (like Rivers) screaming at his Oline and refs (like romo) or bitching about his defense (like McNabb).

by andiamo708 on Sep 6, 2009 11:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Bblue- Eli never went antiquing with his mom...

He told one interviewer he has no idea where that story came from. But, I know what you’re sayin’. Eli’s a good guy. He’s not a saint, though, and enjoys himself as much as any guy. The guy does have patience and nerves of steel.

Any chance of this article being forwarded to SNY? Can’t stand those gossip girls over there. Guarantee, they’ll be the first to start screeching when the Giants have an ugly game.

by takeoutburger on Sep 6, 2009 11:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Hmmm..Interesting...

I forget where I heard that, but thanks for clearing that up..Maybe it was some bogus article I read somewhere…Thanks for setting me straight..Bob

by Bobbiblue on Sep 6, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I heard that as well.

Something about how he didn’t like watching Peyton and Cooper play basketball all day on Saturdays, so he would go antiquing with his mother instead.

"We'll show up tomorrow and do the same thing we try to do every day, Kick Pedroia's ass in cribbage and try and win a baseball game."

by tito (eight and oh) on Sep 8, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Strange

Here’s an article with direct quotes from Eli about antiquing with his mom.

"The first couple of times it wasn’t because I wanted to," Manning said. "It was just because she wanted to go shopping and there was nobody to watch me, so I had to tag along. But after I went a couple of times, I started to enjoy it."

by mnbv on Sep 6, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, read that too before the Superbowl or something...

Manning’s talking about shopping as a kid and someone twists it to, “I like anitiquing with the mom and wife…” It’s all good. I’d go antiquing with my mom and wife if they asked me to. As long as it didn’t interfere with Giant football, that is.

by takeoutburger on Sep 6, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

pablob--Lombardi

would disagree..

I’m convinced G-men with get another trophy under Coughlin/Manning era.

by takeoutburger on Sep 6, 2009 11:56 AM EDT reply actions  

i agree

i couldnt agree more..

when the recievers turn into nfl recievers… will be set..

out of all the young guys we have, ones gotta turn into a superstar, right?
and 2-3 have to turn into quality nhl recievers right?

once that happens were set

by Moshe52792 on Sep 6, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Moshe, agreed-

and they don’t even need to be superstars in my mind. Just efficient, consistent and clutch. They all seem like team players. Should be an interesting season.

Eli’s gonna bring the crow this season. He’s been ascending since ‘07. That Superbowl—most QBs top off their career with it, but Eli started his ascent with it. Which is why there are still doubters. Someone that young, performing like him, that just doesn’t happen. The idiots call it luck until they can’t anymore.

by takeoutburger on Sep 6, 2009 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont believe that is what will happen.

I think thats what the Sports Media want to Invision happening. JAson cole and the Like. He and the others who can only be right if the Giants Offense DOES fail. I Think Any Real Giants Fan, Myself included, Knows that The Giants Passing Offense is Starting from Scratch. I think Any Real giant Fan Knows that You can not expect Eli, WHo i love, but is not a GREAT passing QB, to carry the Load alone. I Think That if the Giants Offensive Passing attack starts slow, ITs not Eli who will bare the Brunt of It.. It is Jerry Reese, For not adding a Experienced pair of Hands, when There were a good Number of Them available. That Said, I like what Jerry Reese has done. I think that Between Manningham, Nicks, Barden, Smith, Hixson, Moss… One, if not 2 of those guys, all who are VERY talented pass catchers, will Emerge as Eli’s Go to Receiver. But, I can’t Expect it to happen, because none of them have ever done it before, which is part of what bothers me about this whole argument. Jerry Rice was not Jerry Rice, Till he Became Jerry Rice.. Neither was LArry Fitzgerald, Or Steve Smith, Or Andre Johnson…. I mean, Can the Giants Receiving Corp Actually FAIL, before the Press Calls it a Failure. IT seems to me that alot of this is more about Writers calling something negatively or Positively LONG before they should, simply so they can be able to say See, i told you so

by Kimbrkitty on Sep 6, 2009 12:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Eli deserves the criticism

He told a team not to draft him which was snotty, he was real inconsistent early on , horrible in the playoffs up til 07 (and then stunk it up in the playoffs again in ‘08). He’s now the leagues highest paid player and if the offense struggles the fingers will be pointing to the highest paid player in the league and it should.

The one thing I will give credit is that he handled allt he criticism extremely well. I hate to admit this but McNabb would’ve cried if the NY media handed him the beating they handed Eli.

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!

by Joe_D on Sep 6, 2009 12:05 PM EDT reply actions  

to be an athlete in ny

you need to be cool and calm.. or if you play for the rangers, completely opposite (AV-E-RY!!!!)

elis the perfect QB for NY.. hes proven that with a solid WR he can win a superbowl..

so thats what we need.. a solid WR.. will one of the kids turn into one.. we can hope so.. but the odds are atleast 1 will..

and if not, I think Resse f’ed up for not atleast bringing in one seasoned vet who eli can depend on to make that 5-6 yard play on 3rd down.. like a toomer, but 3-4 years younger..

by Moshe52792 on Sep 6, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

spoken like a true Eagle fan!!!

c’mon Philly never like anyone through tough times…just ask Mike Schmidt, McNab the list goes on and on

by celticfool on Sep 6, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

what other qb has this EXACT same m.o.?

john elway,word for word.seeing as how eli’s career is pretty much paralleling the HUMAN KEN DOLL’s,i’ll consider that a compliment;).

derek de pinho

by rbcarpenter on Sep 6, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ernie Acorsi

Actually went after Eli seeing him as his John Elway. Remember that Ernie Acorsi drafted Elway to the Baltimore Colts despite the fact that he said he didn’t want to play their like Eli said with San Diego and in the middle of the night the Colts owner traded Elway to the Broncos and Acorsi felt like someone killed his dog. In my opinion, Acorsi had a lot of crap drafts, but when they somehow accumulate into a SB no one is going to complain. (He drafted Tyrone Wheatley and Ron Dayne in the first rounds. And lest we forget the awful William Joseph. What the hell?)

Wow, what a joke. Have fun with that one, I'm going to Quiznos!

by MRoztheGreat777 on Sep 6, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey, calm it down

try not to sound like an eagles fan!

by catsmeat84 on Sep 7, 2009 5:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

He ASKED the Chargers not to draft him...

And when they did, what did he do?

He picked up the Jersey, smiled, and took his pictures with SD Heads and Peyton.

He didn’t demand a trade, the Giants did.

"We'll show up tomorrow and do the same thing we try to do every day, Kick Pedroia's ass in cribbage and try and win a baseball game."

by tito (eight and oh) on Sep 8, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well..

I must admit..I was a bit miffed that the Giant’s traded Rivers..and that Archie refused to have his Son play in San Diego..but they do have a perennial nutcase owner..I was a big Rivers fan when I lived in Raleigh I saw all his games..We even have a signed football from when he played for NC State.I am happy he got his payday also..Now I’ve learned to appreciate Eli..He’s a calm, solid QB..and he has one thing McNabb hasn’t yet accomplished, a Championship and MVP honors (which one could argue belonged to David Tyree)..I wouldn’t be surprised to see Vick in there at QB before long..but with this “Dogshit” he did, he will get hammered wherever they play and may very well pull a Vince Young deal. I applaud the Eagles for giving Vick a second chance and for McNabb lobbying for him..but McNabb has already lodged a complaint to the Coaching staff that he is disrupting the offensive flow..So, I predict a very erratic, confused Philly season this year.

by Bobbiblue on Sep 6, 2009 1:18 PM EDT reply actions  

NFC E fans have been predicting us to implode for 5 years now

We’ll be ok. McNabb is a bit of a bitch and a whiner but in no way shape or form does Vick replace him. Even in Vick’s prime he wasn’t nearly as good as McNabb was. If McNabb were to miss any significant time it would be Kolb who got the nod.

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!

by Joe_D on Sep 6, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love it when iggles’ fans criticize Eli

when every year they want to run their own QB out of Philly. Eli has won a Super Bowl, and all we hear is that the defense won the game.

The defense kept us in the game and then protected the lead. The score was 7-3 until the fourth quarter, when the Pats took the lead Eli and the offense drove the length of the field and reclaimed the lead.

What has McNabb produced?

2001 McNabb ended his day 18-of-30 171 yards, 1 TD and 1 INT, the INT ended the game and gave Warner and the Rams a trip to the Super Bowl.

2002 McNabb ended his day 26-of-49 for 243 yards, 1 TD and also 1 very costly Pick 6 by Ronde Barber in the final minutes of the game that gave a team that never won a game in temperatures under 40 degrees a trip to the Super Bowl.

2003 McNabb ended his day just 10-of-22 for 100 yards and 3 INT.

2004 McNabb ended his day 30-of-51 for 357 yards, 3 TD, 3 INT, and pukes in the Super Bowl.

2008 McNabb ended his day 28-of-47 for 375, 3 TD and 1 INT, but was outdone by Warner’s 21-of-28 for 279 yards, 4 TD and Fitzgerald’s 9 catches 152 yards and 3TD.

When the game is on the line, unfortunately McNabb falls short. I’ll take Eli’s emergence and production on the two minute drill over McNabb’s any day.

by RickJS on Sep 6, 2009 1:44 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

woooohh

couldnt be more right..

and honestly.. does it shock anyone the team that would take michael vick is philly?

perfect fit for me.. just more trash in a dump ;)

by Moshe52792 on Sep 6, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

he also took some shots...

at his defense after that game. pretty classless IMO.

I know he wasn’t exactly placing the blame on his defense but you can’t make those comments…you can’t specifically call out another unit like that.

by andiamo708 on Sep 6, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

The defense was playing possessed the entire series

Other than that, every time the Giants made the playoffs they got booted, HARD… Now if the Giatns make the playoffs again, a nd make another quick exit guarantee Giants fans will be callnig for Eli and Coughlin’s head again.

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!

by Joe_D on Sep 6, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where's the Rings???..The Trophy?..in Philly?

Nowhere to be found that’s where..Even the Jets at least won one..The Eagles are just a bunch of Mosquito bites..They haven’t seen a super bowl since big ‘ol “Jaws” and the only thing he has to this day is just big ’ol “Jaws”…When you listen to him you’d think he’d won 10 Super Bowls…big ‘ol mouth:“Now that is how you perfectly run the slot route..blah blah” That’s all..The only thing big mouth is good at is the telestrator..loser..McNabb has a big smile even when they are getting trounced..Hello?..Andy Reid stands on the sidelines obese as an elephant wondering where the nearest McDonalds is and picking his nose.

by Bobbiblue on Sep 6, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

you can guarantee that all you want

see we Giants fans know that when someone wins a SB for us, he’s ours for his whole career.

I guess you really don’t know anything about that.

Coughlin and Eli will end their careers with the Giants. Unless Eli tries to pull a Farve when he’s 39.

GODZZIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Sep 6, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Amen!

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by 5_Giant_Raider_Clipper_Laker_13 on Sep 7, 2009 3:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Playoffs

I’m not worried about the G-Men making the playoffs, my concern is are they going to be one and out again? At home?

If we play in windy conditions is Eli going to suddenly forget how to pass?

Hopefully not.

by John W on Sep 6, 2009 2:13 PM EDT reply actions  

will the defense continue to give up 3rd and 20?

everythign that could have went wrong that day did. no pass rush, bad play calling, bad passing, bad everything.

by andiamo708 on Sep 6, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

yeah we did

its a shame.. hes gonna be a solid player in the league..

i think it was an issue of him wanting starting time and us not being able to give it to him becuase of the DE we had already.. im sure we could have kept him ont he roster though

by Moshe52792 on Sep 6, 2009 3:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes he will be a force..

Wish we could have found a way to keep him..darn

by Bobbiblue on Sep 6, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jason Cole of Yahoo Sports...

Has anything Eli done in the past 5 years shown you he will not be patient or be able to handle the criticism of playing in NY? The guy has an unflappable demeanor and always handles himself with the right attitude. I doubt very much that the Giant fans will shake Eli while the team finds its play makers this season.

by bgaud0207 on Sep 6, 2009 4:06 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Update

*Jersey number changes: Hakeem Nicks will move from the No. 18 he has worn this preseason to No. 88, which had been worn by Michael Matthews the past two seasons; Jeff Feagles goes from No. 17 back to No. 18; and Leger Douzable goes from No. 78 into No. 90.

Wow, what a joke. Have fun with that one, I'm going to Quiznos!

by MRoztheGreat777 on Sep 6, 2009 5:43 PM EDT reply actions  

I wonder why Feagles changed back?

Did someone say they are retiring #17?

GODZZIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Sep 6, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

na, won't retire it...

but they’ll leave it be for a while…just like 81…i don’t think they’ll retire Amani’s number…just keep it on the back burner for as long as possible.

by andiamo708 on Sep 6, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

It's probably been mentioned before...

But why did Kiwi change his number?

"We'll show up tomorrow and do the same thing we try to do every day, Kick Pedroia's ass in cribbage and try and win a baseball game."

by tito (eight and oh) on Sep 8, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

my New Season's Resolution

will be to cut Kevin Killdrive Gilbride some slack this year. I was a bit of an Eli hater until the SB run, but I think that’s fair. I mean, deliver, kid! You’re supposed to bring the ring. Now, I see the offense as more of a work in progress to be fleshed out. Oh yeah and if the giants don’t run 55-60% rush plays every game I will be a berserk frothing lunatic

You play to win the game!

by Simms-McConkey on Sep 8, 2009 8:47 AM EDT reply actions  

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