Life with Lawrence Tynes -- do the Giants have to keep living it?

I wish we could get fsu’s kicker from last year, he was auto-f$&@ing-matic.

did anyone see some Buccaneer S*head take a cheap-shot blindside on Feagles during punt coverage? What a punk. He didn’t rock him or anything but threw a shoulder 20 yards from the action and sent the Feags to the turf. He could be your dad, man. No need for that kind of cheap shot away from the action.

Not that the Giants were going to bring anyone in anyways, but if the FA’s have question marks, you might as well stick with who we have. For the sake of the fans, let’s hope we never have to rely on Tynes to kick a game winner ever again! lol

Tynes is clutch but he’s a Stover clone and that maybe a good thing for Tynes if he can play 18 years. Keep Tynes until we find our Vinatieri.

Don’t forget that the game against Green Bay wouldn’t have gone to overtime if Tynes made 1 out of 2 kicks down the stretch for us. I don’t trust him as far as I could throw him. Plus, his kickoffs aren’t any better than Carney’s from last year. Graham Gano is a much better option.

especially for the Giants. The Patriots found one out of nowhere when they got rid of Vinateri and got Gostkowski.

Tynes is OK. He’s got a stronger leg than Carney and he’s getting better on the kickoffs.

Doesn’t matter who the kicker is, he’s gonna piss us off at somepoint. I don’t like Tynes any more than the next fan, but he’s the Gints kicker and I don’t think there’s really any better option out there for now.

Saying it will cost the Giants a game is stupid. Will it? Maybe, but it hasn’t. If it really becomes a problem, then Id expect them to deal with it.

A possible option is Olindo Mare. He’s been trashed this week by his coach in the media, so maybe they cut him. Maybe its at an opportune time when Tynes has a bad game? Mare’s a better kicker than Tynes to me.

Is that although he’s imperfect, I can’t think of a time when I thought to myself “Damn, Tynes really cost us the game today.”

Before Tynes there was Feeley, and my god we all remember what he did in Seattle. Last year there was Carney, and I actually remember thinking to myself after the Philadelphia playoff game “If Tynes was kicking, we would have won.”

You can criticize him for missing the first two field goals in historically the most difficult environment to ever kick field goals in, during the ’07 Championship game, or you can praise him for having the guts to walk back out there (with Coughlin unable to decide himself) and attempt, and make, a third to send us to the show.

So until Tynes actually costs us a game, I’m behind him 10000%

That’s my kicker sniffle sniffle that’s my team mate, it’s not fair sniffle sniffle.

was trade for Ochocinco – he could have become our no 1 WR and our Kicker at the same time.

Simple – TC would love him as he plays multiple positions (OK I jest on TC).

I would say let us have a poll vote on this…but I think we all know the answer!

Rob Bironas missed TWO easy kicks in the season opener for the Titans, and that DEFINITELY cost them the game (they lost by 3, missing two FGs is a 6-pt swing). Still, although that sucks, the guy has the record for most FGs in a game (8) and has been money at other times when it counted. What are you gonna do?

Seems like Tynes is going through something, but he’s likely to work it out.

And with that said, the idea that you’re gonna find a better option on the “available kickers” market is just farfetched. The time to worry about this was in the Offseason—prior to camp. Now, you have what you have, and it’s the best you’re likely to find.

to have a kicker who was fairly solid from 55? A Jason Elam type?

I guess we’re just spoiled to be thinking about this. I betcha the Bucs, Rams, Skins, Lions, Chiefs aren’t thinking about their kickers…

Why are so many ready to dump Tynes when so many wanted to keep Tyree. To me, Tynes has been far more productive than Tyree. All the talk about he’s “going” to cost us a game. So many fortune tellers. Fact is, he hasn’t cost us a game. Maybe, he’s not “going” to miss any more this year. We don’t know. Tynes is the guy for the job. It’s Giants’ football. Nothing is ever going to be easy, not even field goals. To eliminate any Tynes headaches, just score TDs. What next? Do we look for another QB if Eli throws a pick 6 and we lose the game????

Once he gets into a rhythm, He’ll be fine. Kicking is about rhythm more than anything so if he keeps missing these kicks, then it’s cause for concern.

We’re talking about a kicker here. He missed a 21 yarder, big deal. I saw that Cincy kicker miss an extra point to win a game last year. I said it before and I’ll say it again, Tynes hasn’t lost us a game, so until he does…lets cut him some slack.

but my gf is from N.O. and a big Saints fan. Now THEY had a kicking problem last year. Thats why they now have Carney. Tynes is fine. Most kickers go through a rough patch here and there. I’d love to have a “Vinateri” as much as the next guy, but honestly Tynes is probably about a league average kicker. You generally dont find better than average kickers on the FA market for obvious reasons. Stick with Tynes for now and hope for the best.

I’m sick of picking up kickers off the trash bin – I’d prefer to go with a young guy who’s got a lot of leg and a lot of potential. I thought Gano was the best kicker in the NCAA last year, and I’m actually surprised 3 kickers were drafted ahead of him and he didn’t make a team. I’d be willing to give him a shot – otherwise, best to just stick with Tynes and hopes he sorts it all out.

is erratic with some of the FG but all around he is an above average kicker. I always think back to last season and the Kick Off situation which was horrendous, Carney was accuarate but his KO’s stunk so I am glad we have Tynes back for that.

Some one said it earlier we are going to have to learn to live with his ups and downs….

Good post Ed and something that surely needs to be addressed. Both the Green Bay game and Dallas game you mentioned, when Tynes hit the winning FG should have been over before that. People forget we had to drive to win both of those games because Tynes missed FG’s earlier in the games. He put the G-Men in those situations to begin with.

So I do not applaud him for those FG’s. Yes we won the game but the game should have been over and he gives our opponents too many chances to win games. I don’t know who the replacement should be but he needs to get the hell out of town.

Laurence Tynes drives me nuts too and lord knows I wish the Giants would get someone in here to compete with him in training camp. However after watching Jay Feely kick for us I learned a lesson. Feely was pretty much automatic and never missed chip shots and was preety good over 40 yards, however when the pressure was on Feely would choke, just like Carney did last year in the playoffs. Tynes is mentally tough even if he misses a field goal or two… when we need him most he comes through anybody think Feely makes that kick in Green Bay to send us to the SB? This season we are stuck with Tynes, let’s hope Jerry brings or drafts a kicker and Tynes has to compete for his roster spot!!!!

Believe me I understand what your talking about in the GB game, there is a whole in my wall to prove it. But think back to the Seattle game in (i think it was 06) when Feely missed a couple of kicks early that he should have made. Feely psyched himself out of the game and could not kick anything and kept missing we lost the game. I give Tynes credit for getting his head into the game and nailing a 40+ field goal in Lambeau. I know Feely would have missed that. My point is Tynes does drive you crazy but he does come though in the clutch so right now I don’t think it’s a good idea to just dump him for an unknown.

Id rather not even know the kickers name and simply score TD’s, but that’s me.

It doesn’t matter that his clutch kicks may or may not be because he shanked one earlier. That is a really stupid idea to say “Oh, if he made that one before…this game wouldn’t come down to this”.

No, if you say “if” all the time….those plays earlier in the game may go the other way, there may be a missed tackle..all the sort of crap that can turn an NFL game, even if he makes that kick earlier in the game.

The score says its the difference, but if you go back and change the game, there’s gonna be other stuff that could be changed the other game.

Tynes is the Giants kicker. Live with it. He hasn’t cost a game yet, so “IF”….. my Uncle had tits, he’d be my Aunt.

about a kicker. Maybe we should just agree on Chaos Theory and move on. Yeah, maybe if Tynes makes FGs earlier in games, it would increase the odds the Giants would not have to put together a game winning drive at the end. Maybe the opposition throws the ball more often instead and wins by 10 points; however, I think it’s obvious having a team with a kicker that is not consistent inside 30 yards changes game planning and makes it easier for a team to keep the score close. Finding a kicker who is would be impossible midseason.

Irrespective of what TC says publicly, every team is always looking at every position and looking to see how they can improve.

Are the Giants working out anyone this week? No, that simply means that they have looked over the field, and don’t see an upgrade.

OTOH – I have no doubt that JR has the phone number for every available kicker sitting on his desk

it was the lack of faith in Gostkowski that caused Belichick to go for an unsuccesful 4th down conversion in the Super Bowl.

Belichick just went for (and picked up) a 4th and 1 on his own 24 yard line. He plays by his own rules. I don’t think Bells didn’t have faith in his kicker, sometimes, he just has no respect for the opposing team.

The day will come when Tynes loses an important game for the Giants. It feels like it is just a matter of time. Until that day, hopefully we can continue winning games on the strength of our offense and dominance of our defense.

Next year, Tynes should be gone from the team in my opinion. Those are crucial points to any close game he misses. I know it doesn’t count but can anyone tell me how many he also missed in preseason? Was it 2 or 3 or 4?

Did you hear Goose say and I quote “Tynes was missing kicks in pre game warmups from the left and the right and everywhere.”

There are worse problems to have. We can avoid this issue all together by scoring TDs, which I have a feeling we’re going to be doing a lot more of.

Now, I’m a realist. Of course I want a more reliable option at K. But the simple truth is that there simply isn’t one out there. Every single K we could have a chance at grabbing has as many question marks as Tynes. So for now, I’m content enough to stick w/ him until a clear-cut better option is available.

To pick a name that people have been discussing a lot: If you look at Vinatieri, he’s made 124 out of 129 for his career from the 20-29 range. Tynes is 36 for 39. So it’s not like Vinatieri never misses from under 30 yards. He’s at 96%, while Tynes is 92%.

Looking at their career stats, a kicker makes about 10 attempts per season between 20-29 yards on average.

There’s difference of 4%, so about 4 more kicks missed in that range over the course of 10 seasons. That doesn’t seem like much of a difference to me.

missing kicks inside of 30 yards as an NFL kicker in inexcusable regardless of the game situation, weather, or other circumstances.

excuse the language, but i don’t give a shit if a kicker can hit from 55. if he can’t consistently hit 99% of the time from 20-29 yards then he’s worthless.

Tynes has missed two kicks inside of 30 yards in three games this season. if he misses another, then they’re going to have to start looking for other options.

Guys for starters we are pretty lucky to complain about the kicker being our issue. But I really don’t see one. Receivers drop balls, running backs fumble, QBs throw picks, defensive players blow assignments or miss tackles…point is no one is perfect Tynes is going to miss from time to time. Are we going to turn our back on Eli if he has a bad game? We might not be happy but then you remember 07 and the sting of a certain loss isn’t so bad.

As long as he makes the ones that count in the postseason, I could care less how many he misses in the regular season.

are Matt Bahr or, Ali Hadji-Sheik still available on the free agent market? Bahr, was My favorite GIANTS kicker because He wasn’t afraid to make a tackle. oh yeah, He was a pretty good kicker too.

just celebrated his 153rd birthday

That wanna get rid of everyone after a couple off days.

I don’t know how Eli ever survived the way half you numskulls act.