Summarizing Coughlin's presser
by Ed Valentine on Sep 28, 2009 4:58 PM EDT
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PrintAs he always does the day after games, New York Giants coach Tom Coughlin spoke to the media Monday afternoon.
Here are some of the highlights.
"Coming out of Dallas ... we needed to be able to stop the run and run the ball," Coughlin said. "And that is what started this week as we prepared and that is what we accomplished last night. I was pleased with that."
- Coughlin said injured cornerbacks Aaron Ross and Kevin Dockery would return to practice this week.
- Lawrence Tynes job is safe despite Sunday's 21-yard miss.
- Coughlin seemed impressed by the little bit he saw of Gartrell Johnson, who he said "looks a lot quicker, at least to me, than his time speed."
- TC disagreed with commentator Tony Siragusa's claims that Brandon Jacobs was not running hard enough.
- Coughlin said rookie tackle William Beatty "did a pretty good job assignment-wise" Sunday in his first extended action.
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It is coming together
The depth the team has is begining to show across all the positions, so when a guy goes down we have an adaquate replacement to step in.
We are also a young team so we should have a few more years performing at this level even if we draft badly,
by G Fan in England on Sep 28, 2009 5:03 PM EDT reply actions
I'm craving...
to see Nicks back on the field! Nicks, Manningham, and Smith is such an explosive trio.
"We're only going to score 17 points?!" - Tom Brady
Not to mention...
Boss, Moss, Barden, Hixon, and Beckum. Our receiving core has a lot of depth.
"We're only going to score 17 points?!" - Tom Brady
Great line
Our receiving core has a lot of depth.
Who would have thought someone would make this statement 3 or 4 months ago.
it always had depth
we knew this was a young talented group in which every player belonged in the NFL, but now we know that there is quality depth.
President of the Ramses Barden Fan Club
by Hoyadestroya85 on Sep 28, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Our depth sucks!
All of the experts and nay-sayers said so. We still don’t or have a clear number one WR! I guess we’ll have to wait for 2010?! ;)
out of all the draft picks
i was most excited for beatty, granted i’ve always been a lineman in my playing days.
before coughlin started to develop the current line through the draft, the line we had was pretty dominant but was aging and the lack of youth coming up was really glaring. i remember one season losing pettigout and the line turned to mush.
its exciting to see the emphasis where it should be, drafting young guys on the line who will develop in the system.
"...turned to mush."
So did Pettigout. In fact, he wasn’t that great his last years with the Giants(too many penalties, for one thing.) A lot of people were worried about replacing him, but Diehl has a vast improvement over him. I love to hear good things about Beatty. He’s a keeper, for sure, and’ll be first string soon (not too soon I hope, like filling in for someone who goes down.)
well that was my general point
the line was good for a number of years but it got old in a hurry and there was no one to replace them right away when it was needed. it was a tough transition from fassel’s guys to coughlins guys because that youth wasn’t there.
True.
The year they got rid of Luke, the line was pretty porous (I thought Warner would get killed, the way he holds onto the ball), but they got at least good by the next year. It was real tough for rookie Eli, but at least he knew when to get rid of the ball;.
I was most excited about
Sintim…I think he’s gonna be a beast. And if Osi doesn’t wake up a little more, he might find himself on the outside looking in. Think about it. Osi wants a new contract, he may not get it if Kiwi and Sintim take off. They may let him go in free agency in a couple yrs. But we’re a long way from that, so I’ll just enjoy this for now.
if you've been watching....
Osi doing just fine. Sacks aren’t completely meaningless, but there is a reason teams cannot pass on the Giants and its cuz Osi and Co. are beating the crap out of QB’s when they throw, on nearly every play.
He’s a step too late. He also missed a year of football. OSI IS BACK.
What the f$%k is the internet?
by FreeBradshaw on Sep 29, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Free
I think you’re watching with your heart. He’s not all the way back, at least he’s not playing like it.
by Ed Valentine on Sep 29, 2009 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Ouch...
"We'll show up tomorrow and do the same thing we try to do every day, kick Pedroia's ass in cribbage and try and win a baseball game."
by tito (eight and oh) on Sep 29, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
nah..
I’m watching with my Tivo.
The amount of times I saw every QB on their back from game 1-3…and #72 getting up after a gigantic hit (….and #71 against the Bucs, go figure) was too many to count.
Sacks are lovely, they mean that the offense doesn’t even have a chance at a lucky play to happen, but OSI IS BACK. He’s getting there. Him, FredRob, Kiwi and Tollefson were there all day on Sunday. Before that him, Bernard, Tuck and Kiwi were there a whole lot against Dallas, and basically everyone was there against the Skins.
What the f$%k is the internet?
by FreeBradshaw on Sep 29, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I honestly thought...
Osi was making it a point not to rush himself out of running plays last week. He did a good job of keeping Ward/Caddy inside.
"We'll show up tomorrow and do the same thing we try to do every day, kick Pedroia's ass in cribbage and try and win a baseball game."
by tito (eight and oh) on Sep 29, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Had to love
Robbins absolute burial of a TB running back on Sunday. It wasn’t too much different than Ray Lewis’ game-saving stuff… only Robbins had to beat his man off the line!
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Sep 29, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
It's interesting
Because the folks I hear from are wondering if Osi is 100% yet. I sure hope he is.
by Ed Valentine on Sep 29, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Osi is at best "almost back"
But I do think the Giants purposely focussed on just pressure against Leftwich..that guy can’t throw, nor can he be a run threat at QB anymore…The pressure only approach gave our defense a little bit of a break…after KC, they are going to have to start blowing steam out of their noses again and attack the opposing QBs..Also, I hope Mcnabb gets well soon, because that Kolb kid is scary.
health
the real boogeyman to stay away from will be long-term, season-ending, or late-in-the-season injuries. As it stands now, as long as we can put together a solid season and be healthy at the end, perhaps we’ll even be stronger/gaining momentum for the playoffs. I’m really amped to see our full A-team out there. Hicks, Ware, Canty, Boley, Sintim, DOckery, Ross, Hixon … I’m lookin’ at YOU!
I didn’t hear Rocky Bernard’s name Sunday… how’s he doing?
You play to win the game!
Gartrell johnson
i hope we see alittle more of him in the future…
first they need to give Bradshaw a few more carries per game
by Nine Inch Nails on Sep 28, 2009 11:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And in turn, even less carries for Jacobs...
And I don’t know if I’m quite ready to give defenses that kind of vacation yet.
"We'll show up tomorrow and do the same thing we try to do every day, kick Pedroia's ass in cribbage and try and win a baseball game."
by tito (eight and oh) on Sep 29, 2009 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes he looked good..
I agree with TCs comment about him seeming faster than what he was clocked..
peter king
has the Giants as the second top team on si.com for his MMQB article. It had to pain him to write anything positive about the Giants.
It really feels like none of the news outlets are showing much coverage of the game. I can understand the other dominant story lines this week, but only showing BJ td run as the only highlight of the game (im talking to you NFL Live) is ludicrous.
oops I crapped my pants!
if you read
don bank’s sunday article he said that in his upcoming power rankings the ravens would still be number 1.
i don’t understand that logic, 2 dominant wins over bottom shelf teams keep them in the top spot while the giants had a tough road win against a good divisional opponent, then yesterday’s blowout, but the ravens are better?
i won’t argue that the ravens AREN’T better, because they do look very good. but i don’t understand the rationale behind the ranks.
i agree
I think you really could make both teams interchangeable for the top spot. I think there is a good chance for a Giants Ravens superbowl rematch! How bad ass would that beat to lay a revenge beating on them.
oops I crapped my pants!
EFF YOU
Kerry Collins
"We'll show up tomorrow and do the same thing we try to do every day, kick Pedroia's ass in cribbage and try and win a baseball game."
by tito (eight and oh) on Sep 29, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
King's at least better than Seth Wickersham
who picked the Giants to finish 3rd this year, and has been constantly downplaying them.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
Did the Giants even play on Sunday?
If you watched the Cowboys vs Panthers Game last night, the pregame and halftime show made little to no mention of the drubbing the Giants gave TB. The only thing related to the Giants was some stupid poll asking which NY QB would have a better career Eli or Sanchez. Are you serious? Stupid question, but besides that its okay, because I like it when they fly under the radar.
by Larry Soprano on Sep 29, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Injuries
I’m really excited to see how this team plays with all the starters healthy. It should be pretty nasty considering they’re beating teams with half the defense on the injury report.
by Heatley's Good Eye on Sep 28, 2009 7:45 PM EDT reply actions
hopefully
most of the defense will be on the field by the time we play the Saints. That should be on hell of a game.
oops I crapped my pants!
We're going to need a healthy secondary for that Orleans game
But I must say, I have been pleasantly surprised with how the guys filling in are doing..that can only make us stronger back there..Across the board, these defensive injuries we have suffered could be a blessing in disguise.
Amen to that
It’s better to find out what you have early, and to make the adjustments rather than late, and then you might be screwed. The experience the young kids are getting now is invaluable. Now if we can get Dockery and Ross back to health, and some gametime to knock off some rust, we should be golden. This doesn’t even include how Rouse is going to fit in!
he's the first guy cut
if there’s a roster jam
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Sep 29, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
my bad,
since they’re getting back 2 corners, no safeties, he could stick
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Sep 29, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Ok...
As a UCONN grad, I am very happy to see Will Beatty in there this past Sunday…Keep up the great work, you are making all of us Uconn Alumni very proud!
Also, I thinks the remarks made about Brandon Jacobs are in the right ball park…Brandon would be even better if he ran with his head UP rather than trying to plow through people…..
good to see
Ross and Dockery returning.
bad to see Tynes returning.
by SBakerTheTouchdownMaker on Sep 28, 2009 10:00 PM EDT reply actions
Reese better draft a kicker next year
by Nine Inch Nails on Sep 28, 2009 11:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Love Big Blue
Yet again the team looked awesome!!!!!
I love the way the season has started.
Tried and True, Giants Blue
lol
is there any doubt that once the season goes on all these undefeated teams will drop like flies? then the ravens will be a nonfactor on the worthless list. i can see the giants and siants being the only undefeated teams by the time they play each other. how cool wud tht be?
that would be really cool..
and def. a possibility..
our next two games are both very winnable
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
out of many of these undefeated teams
the Ravens, Colts and Giants are most legit. Never count out a Manning, and the Ravens with their defense still where its at…and a QB in Flacco who is legit, they are definitely a contender too.
Wouldn’t be surprised to see them run away with the division too…..all 3 of these teams.
What the f$%k is the internet?
by FreeBradshaw on Sep 29, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
yup and next week is tough
denver goes against dallas. ravens go against the patriots. theres more but i forgot
Denver could very well beat Dallas next week..
Dallas did not look as good as the score would indicate against the Panthers..Jake D. is horrible..He has Mush and Smith and can’t hit the broad side of a barn with a shovel. Didn’t they they award him a 45 million extension in the offseason?..He is terrible. Denver looks pretty darn good..if Romo has a much wanted brain fart, we’ll be two games up on the Cowboys (don’t tell my Cowboy fan wife that I wrote this).
I can't blame Jake
for those picks last night. Moose ran a lazy route and did not turn DB on the ball that was thrown in his direction and Smith ran a horrible slant-something that turned into a pick 6. As much heat as Dell Home Mee gets, I’m putting those two picks on his WRs. Also, see what happens when a team has a #1 WR. Dallas took Smith out of the game and Jake looked lost. 1 good drive and that was is. Eli looks much better with a “corps” over a #1.
Kevin Freakin Gilbride
Okay I know I am probably a spoiled Giants fan but can we talk about this man’s play calling this season. No wonder we can’t score in the Red Zone because his play calling is so predictable that even I can call the play the Giants are going to run from my couch. Once we get inside the twenty he just calls runs or short passes, hardly ever throws into the end zone. Am I the only one getting fustrated by how predictble the Giants are in the Red Zone?
by Late for Dinner on Sep 29, 2009 12:32 PM EDT reply actions
probably not the only one...
but what you all seem to forget is the marches down the field are largely due to him too.
They scored 3RZ TD’s on Sunday. Consider it a success in that game.
RZ scoring or lack thereof has plagued the Giants since their existence. This is nothing out of the ordinary.
What the f$%k is the internet?
by FreeBradshaw on Sep 29, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Not saying he sucks
Your right I do realize Sunday’s game was sucessful RZ day. I also think Gilbride does a good job for the most part, however it seems since Plax left his RZ play calling has been so predictable (Jacobs up the middle, or delayed handoff up the middle) that other teams are just gearing up for run once we get inside the 20, how about some play action. As my uncle says Gillbride either has an A game or a C game nothing in between.
by Late for Dinner on Sep 29, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
again with the Plax....
they weren’t that good…EVER, with Plaxico in the red-zone. The whole jump ball thing to him in the RZ is a myth, it rarely ever happened.
Most people on the site, or probably Coughlin himself, will say that Jacobs up the middle is a just fine playcall. It worked a whole lot last year.
give the Skins and the Cowboys credit, they deserve it for stopping Jacobs.
But you are right on the bland playcalling down there. They have 3 downs and should be throwing in a play-action or something where there are WR in the back of the end zone.
They figured out the run-stopping thing. I think they’ll figure something out as the season goes on. They have so many weapons, but they are all young so its gonna take time to trust them.
They had Barden and Hagen with Smith in Trip bunch down there on Smith’s TD catch. Loved that play.
Its all about execution and trust. The plays work at some point or else they wouldn’t be in there. Gotta execute.
What the f$%k is the internet?
by FreeBradshaw on Sep 29, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed, Free
No play will work if it isn’t blocked, or the receivers don’t get open. It comes to this — it’s a brilliant play call if it works. If it backfires and we have to bring on Tynes then KG is an idiot.
by Ed Valentine on Sep 29, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
of course.
That’s what it always is. You see it on PSA, when a player fails its never “oh, so and so reliever didn’t get it done” its always FIRE GIRARDI.
Never, ever, can you credit the other team or look at it like our team just didn’t excecute or maybe had a brain fart (cuz none of us have ever done that).
No coach is infallible. but its just so stupid to always blame these guys. They deserve their share of the blame, but its also never always their fault.
What the f$%k is the internet?
by FreeBradshaw on Sep 29, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Late
If you paid attention Sunday you saw some things in the Red Zone w/draws, screens and spread formations that the Giants had not done. Killing KG after that game is silly.
by Ed Valentine on Sep 29, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
yea.
Id say he’s trying stuff.
I don’t know how anyone can bash him after that. In fact, after that game, I’d put damn near 100% of the blame on the players basically for all the RZ struggles this year.
There’s only so much that a coach can do. Watching every play (love TiVo BTW…sucks that’s the last time I get to use it for a while), Gilbride pulled out a ton of new stuff. The Bucs simply fllled the holes.
If there’s one complaint, its that they should be letting Eli throw more down there. I think he’s more than showed that he’s confident in his WR and himself. Play action, back of the end zone stuff, roll-outs, love to see em all.
I think Gilbride is smart enough to know it too and you’ll see it as the season goes on.
What the f$%k is the internet?
by FreeBradshaw on Sep 29, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
No threat at wide receiver
Yes, a lot of depth, but none of them puts fear in the cornerbacks and safeties hearts.
that's OK...
the other team’s CB’s can not be scared as Ham and Smith carve them up all day.
What the f$%k is the internet?
by FreeBradshaw on Sep 30, 2009 6:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Regarding T. Siragusa's comments:
Not to sound callous, but what would Siragusa know about “running hard,” or running at all?
OH NO YOU DIDN'T!
"We'll show up tomorrow and do the same thing we try to do every day, kick Pedroia's ass in cribbage and try and win a baseball game."
by tito (eight and oh) on Sep 30, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
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