Swapping questions with Ernie Palladino
[Ernie Palladino is a long-time New York Giants beat writer for the Journal-News who is a now a full-fledged member of the blogosphere, writing about the Giants at Ernie Palladino's Giants Beat. Ernie and I will be answering the same set of questions each week. Ernie's answers are below. Check out his site for my answers.]
From Ernie: Before we get to questions and answers, let me first say what an honor it is to be a guest on the Big Blue View. You guys have been around a long time, and your loyalty to this space is very impressive. If I get half the support on my spot, I'll be delighted.
So let's answer some questions.
1. What would you do to correct the 0-8 Red Zone problems?
Ernie's Answer: Well, first of all, let's tailor this a little. In fairness, they're really 0-7 because that last field goal drive Sunday night wasn't designed to score a touchdown. But, hey, 0-7 is pretty bad, especially at the beginning of the season.
I think Dallas provided the answer. And it's really common sense, when you think about it. What did they do when they got in close? Bunch up? Nope. They spread the field. Two and three wide sets. That way, the corners and at least one of the safeties has to respect the possibility of the quarterback throwing it into the end zone. And that leaves fewer players to crash the middle, even if you decide to send Brandon Jacobs head-long into a 958-pound defensive tackle like Albert Haynesworth. The quarterback draw was a perfect case in point. The Cowboys were spread out enough at the 2 that all guard Leonard Davis and tackle Marc Colombo had to do was seal one DT and pile-drive the other to give Tony Romo a clear path to the end zone. It worked to perfection.
That was a goal line situation, however, which was something the Giants were not presented with in Dallas. But they did get to the 20 and in four times before the final field goal. They were plenty spread enough. But on each occasion, Eli Manning threw to receivers before the end zone. Not a single pass -- we're not counting Mario Manningham's touchdown because it came from the 22 -- went into the end zone. And the worst of the bunch was the lousy two-yard completion that found Steve Smith on third-and-goal from the 12 in the second quarter. He never had a chance to fight his way through the secondary.
I'm thinking, and I'm mighty curious, about rookie Ramses Barden here. He wasn't used at all in the passing offense despite being active while fellow rookie Hakeem Nicks' foot heals. At 6-foot-6, it would seem he'd be an ideal Red Zone target. It's a limited playbook down there. Let him line up wide and throw that Plaxico Burress fade to the corner. Worst-case scenario, the kid doesn't get open and it gets knocked away or falls out of bounds. And who knows? Maybe he out leaps a DB and puts up six. The Giants can always use that, right?
2. Where will Mario Manningham be in five games?
Ernie's Answer: Interesting thought. Right now, he's looking like and playing like a starter. And you can't quibble with his production, 14 catches for 208 yards and two touchdowns. He's showing outstanding speed and concentration on the imperfectly-thrown passes, and he's playing both flanker and split end spots. That's great production for a second-year kid who's really more of a rookie because of injuries last year.
But let's stop right there. It's too early to anoint him as the next great wide receiver. The situation may be very different by the time this team hit's the Arizona game on Oct. 25. Teams are going to have plenty of tape on this kid by then, and defenses are definitely going to make adjustments. He might see double-teams if he continues along these lines, and those could be hard for him to deal with. Also, teams are eventually going to stop stacking the box against Brandon Jacobs so they can drop that safety into coverage. That, too, might clog things up.
Consider, too, that a lot of Manningham's production right now is tied to the health and welfare of Domenik Hixon. If not for Hixon's knee injury Sunday night, Manningham would have remained the slot receiver and probably not have caught 10 passes. But there's no doubt he's earned more playing time, and perhaps in a featured role even if Hixon does make a healthy return. Still, look for Manningham's numbers to drop either way as defenses start rolling in his direction.
3. Is Osi Umenyiora the same player as he was in his Pro Bowl year of 2007?
Ernie's Answer: No. He might still be recovering from the knee surgery that cost him 2008, but he doesn't seem to have that old speed. Granted, he made a fantastic play in the opener, swatting the ball from Jason Campbell and returning it for a touchdown. But that was really the only play he made that game. And last week, he only hit Romo once. He never really got close the rest of the time. The old Osi would have at least been chasing him around.
It's too early to call him a liability, but he hasn't done well against the run, either. A whole bunch of the Cowboys' runs went his way, and he wasn't even in the frame. He finished with one tackle, giving him seven on the season. Not exactly what you'd expect out of him. But it's early. And he did have Flozell Adams most of the time. But the fact that he never really got around him is cause for concern.
4. What will this win do for the Giants long-range?
Ernie's Answer: Hard to say. Off-hand, you'd think the emotional momentum would carry them a long way. But we've seen more than once the hangover effect. It could come this week against a bad Tampa Bay squad. But the fact that Eli engineered yet another comeback victory should give them confidence that, in a bad-case scenario, if they remain within a touchdown or 10 points of the Bucs, they'll always have a chance to win. Every team is different, and until it comes back on an opponent, the level of faith has to be low. The arrow's pointing up now, thanks to the heart-pounding finish in Dallas.
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Reasonable answers
Dude seems to be on the ball. Good stuff.
by brisulph on Sep 25, 2009 7:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He ought to be
EP covered the Giants as a beat writer for 20 years until getting ‘down-sized.’
by Ed Valentine on Sep 25, 2009 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If there's one thing newspapers hate and devalue
it’s talented and knowledgable writers… bye, newspapers. Nice knowing you.
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Sep 25, 2009 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The funny thing is
Manningham only played as much as he did due to Hixon’s injury.
The question is has he played well enough to keep starting? I think he has.
He will hit a wall as defences plan for him, but this in turn helps the run offence and frees up other guys.
Not wishing anything bad towards Hixon, but I think Manningham is an upgrade and so an injury may have helped the Giants for once.
by G Fan in England on Sep 25, 2009 8:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
G Fan
I happen to agree that Hixon starting is not the best thing for the Giants. I would love to see him available in the return game all the time.
by Ed Valentine on Sep 25, 2009 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mario is an ugrade for sure
Really, what has Hixon done (as a WR)? Hasn’t he had only 1 big game at the position? Not only does Manningham look like an upgrade, but Hixon hasn’t really earned the right to be a “lock” starter.
by potroast on Sep 25, 2009 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hixon needs to be a threat
We can’t have teams gearing up on Smith and Manningham already. If Hixon and Moss can have some success then that causes more headaches for defenses and gives the Giants more versatility.
by Major on Sep 25, 2009 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, I take the “for sure” part & I’ll stick with it just appears that Mario is an upgrade. We aren’t sure of that yet either.
by potroast on Sep 25, 2009 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do not forget Nicks
Hopefully Nicks will be back for week 4 or 5 at which point teams will need to prepare for him as he has showed he can beat single coverage.
Whilst it would be nice to be injury free and firing on all cylinders now, I think the end to 2007 and 2008 showed it is better to finish strong rather than start strong.
Come November with everyone back the offence will have muliple choices at WR and the defence will be fresh because of the depth we have.
by G Fan in England on Sep 25, 2009 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
From the little I've seen of Nicks,
I’ve got to believe he’ll by a great weapon for the team some day.
by blue gonz on Sep 25, 2009 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
pot, both Mario and Hix are
grayhound types, who might be inury-prone. That’s a concern I have about them both. They both have injuries now (Hix’s more serious.) Granted, Mario looks better based on that game and I suspect he might supplant Hix as a starter (Pipp-Gehrig anyone?) if he keeps having games like he did vs. Dallas. I noticed last year that Hix takes quite a beating out there trying to get clear and the refs let it happen w/o calling penalties as they would for an established elite WR. With his willowy frame, can he stand up to it? Mario weighs the same, but, three inches shorter, is sturdier.
by blue gonz on Sep 25, 2009 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
W/ Hixon returning
we had a reason to be excited every kickoff. W/ Moss, not so much. Field position is an important part of the game, and w/ so many options at receiver, I think it’s worth the risk of him being back there.
by YankeeDudeL on Sep 25, 2009 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just read the article over at EP's site
and u said in much better words what I was thinking.
by YankeeDudeL on Sep 26, 2009 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Teams are going to stack the box
there just isn’t enough evidence that the passing game is explosive. So that leaves Tampa in position to get smoked this week. What I would like to see is Hixon, Moss and Boss having breakout games. That way there is not just one breakout player or number 1 WR. Make teams game plan for the entire group.
by Major on Sep 25, 2009 8:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we'd have to throw to boss to get something out of him
I’m not being definitive, but i don’t remember him having it thrown his way AT ALL against dallas. He was doing a lot of blocking against ware, bump and release stuff to give diehl time to get set which worked at least once. Don’t see him having to do that sort of thing against tampa.
by catsmeat84 on Sep 25, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they threw him the screen
that got called back for holding
by cjmulrain on Sep 25, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
3rd and 9
On the game winning drive. Huge catch by Boss in traffic.
"We'll show up tomorrow and do the same thing we try to do every day, kick Pedroia's ass in cribbage and try and win a baseball game."
by tito (eight and oh) on Sep 25, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just don't see how team's are gonna be able to double team HAM without paying for it
Its really not like he was going downfield on every pass, only the fade stop and the deepish bomb come to mind as long passes.
They were mostly slants and screens.
Also, we have this Steve Smith 2 guy. Haven’t really seen him covered just yet.
Kevin Boss is just not gonna be a focal point of the pass. I think I’ve come to terms with it. Given his size and hands it doesn’t make all that much sense to me, but what do I know. He’s an excellent blocker now, so that’s probably the reason for it.
And I think we’re gonna need Hixon as a WR. When he’s on the field and healthy I think he’s as good as any of the guys out there now. But he’s kinda like the Aaron Ross of the D; he’ll play, but he’s not finishing the game.
And I think Osi’s gonna need a few games to get in game shape again. He only had that one dynamite play in game one, that was it. They usually can’t sack Romo much, so that he didn’t get there was not surprising.
Overall I have too much faith in the team to see this as a “Mets-type” season. Our coaches and FO aren’t idiots either, not even close. That helps.
Bottom line- Beat Tampa. F the Bucs. I wanna put up 56 points against em.
What the f$%k is the internet?
by FreeBradshaw on Sep 25, 2009 8:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
could you (as I cringe) imagine
if injuries made our Defense average, and we were carried by the offense?
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Sep 25, 2009 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stop the pass not the run
Last week three teams rushed for over 200 yards and lost (Boys, Fins and Titans) and they lost to teams that were able to pass the ball (Giants, Colts and Texans).
If you read the article on CNNSI by the Cold Hard Football facts guy you will see from their analysis that it is being able to stop the pass and throw the ball yourself which wins you games.
So as long as our defence can stop the pass I believe we will be fine – it is when we cannot throw the ball that I will worry.
by G Fan in England on Sep 25, 2009 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That will never happen with the Giants..Never has and never will
by Bobbiblue on Sep 25, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Happened on Sunday.
We rode Eli all the way to a 2-0 start.
"We'll show up tomorrow and do the same thing we try to do every day, kick Pedroia's ass in cribbage and try and win a baseball game."
by tito (eight and oh) on Sep 25, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately, you're right about Boss.
KG/TC just don’t use the TE as a receiver much, even when they had Shock, who (by reputation among fans at least) was a potent threat as a receiver. I’m still frustrated by not seeing him used in the green/red zone.
by blue gonz on Sep 25, 2009 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem is that our O-line, they are great,
but they don’t handle speed rushers very well. What I mean by that is sometimes they don’t hold blocks very long to allow plays to develop. Also factor in that the Redskins and Cowboys have D-Line players that can’t be blocked 1-on-1(HaynesGut and Ware). Boss has to help block then shed and then get open. Sometimes a linemen may get beat or a blitz may come and Boss drops his route option to block.
There is no doubt that the team expects the TE to block first but I don’t think the TC thinks Boss isn’t a capable offensive player. Boss has to be a more selfless player because is he runs past a blitzing linebacker(Shockey) to run a route then Eli is dead meat.
by Major on Sep 25, 2009 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Saw them throwing to Hedgecock more than to Boss. That’s just crazy, as The Hedge dropped the damn ball at least twice.
by catsmeat84 on Sep 25, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
those hands were made for blockin'
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Sep 25, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Throws to Hedgecock
Realize that I think very, very rarely will a play be designed to go to Hedgecock. It will happen sometimes that Eli looks around, sees no open receiver and dumps the ball to his safety valve. That’s good quarterback play. Hedgecock usually catches the ball.
by Ed Valentine on Sep 25, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He did not "drop" the ball
The throws were early or dump off attempts. Hedge has hands, hell he caught one or two in the Super Bowl! This Hedgecock can not catch crap is overblown and down right wrong.
by brisulph on Sep 25, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
those passes to Sgt. Hedgecock
were merely to get rid of the ball quick. They were safe, no chance of an INT. Almost Throw aways in teh pocket with no chance of int. grounding either.
That’s all.
What the f$%k is the internet?
by FreeBradshaw on Sep 25, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good analysis,
and thank God that he is selfless (unlike Shock), but, in the green/red zone? Let’s see what he can do there. Everything else we’ve tried has failed.
by blue gonz on Sep 25, 2009 9:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A few thoughts
The red-zone: I totally agree with not using the bunch formation. For one, they are already stacking the box, why give them another excuse to do so? But if they are going to use it, keep them honest, run playaction, even if our running game seems idle.
Ham and Hixon: To a degree, i do believe that players shouldn’t lose their job to an injury. But, i really don’t think Hixon was ever guranteed the starting job. He may have been penciled in by default, but i think it was an open competition, to see who will emerge. Ham has everything, or more, not to be starting when Hixon comes back. Even if or when teams catch up to him, it may not be good for his numbers, but good for the team! Besides, Hixon isn’t a superstar and should earn his playing time!
Osi: His game is more predicated with his speed. Unlike Tuck or Strahan, where they can bull rush you on top of their moves, Osi lacks that against bigger tackles. Afterall, the Cowboys OL is huge and It’s easier to run around a blade of grass than a sequoia!
Overall: As young as this season is, this team has already been faced with a lot of adversity. Whether it’s red-zone woes, injuries, a sluggish running game, one thing stands out. We’re 2-0 and that’s important. Even against what we’ve faced, there’s room for improvement from every department.
Only one way to go…
by Hootman on Sep 25, 2009 10:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm too heartsick over the KPhil situation . . .
to be able to contribute much to the discussion, but i’ll give it a try.
Let opposing D’s stack the box and scheme all they want. Eli has the smarts to pick it up and exploit it. the Corps is is deep enuff and talented enuff to carry this team very far. (right now, our best WR (Nicks) isn’t even in the mix., TEs haven’t been utilized yet, and Barden will be a HUGE weapon (pun intended). they won’t be able to double everyone, and if they try, we still have Earth & Fire. once that aspect of the O starts working, look for the good ole fashioned PLAY FAKE to make a reappearance and further confuse the oppo.
the real test for this team will be on the other side of the ball. too many injuries to key personnel. and we all know that further injuries are a distinct possibility. (it is a F&#kin’ BRUTAL sport). its time for our nicked up players to start to return, and for our DEPTH (a supposed strength) to assert itself.
the TEAM has not yet played exceptionally well, but we are TWO & ZERO! (IN THE F&$kin’ division)
things could be worse . . . we could be IGGLES fans (LOL)
by NYer in a strange land on Sep 25, 2009 10:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We need to get Barden in the mix..soon
In the red zone..I have no clue why they haven’t gotten him involved there..He refuses to miss a catch and he is huge..
by Bobbiblue on Sep 25, 2009 11:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Our defense is hurting big time
We just lost a major impact player in Phillips..and I fear his career may be over..not just a season..Rouse sounds good but the reports on him make him a questionable fill in..Tuck got taken out by a cheap shot, Osi definitely has lost speed..We can’t stop the run..We may very well have to rely on the Offense..It would be historic for our team to have the Offense telling the defense" Hold’em"
by Bobbiblue on Sep 25, 2009 11:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I really don't think Phillips' career is gonna be over
losing him for the season sucks, but I just think the injury’s being overblown. When Carlos Beltran went down, there were reports that his injury was similarly career-threatening. Here we are two months later and he’s back in the lineup (stupidly, but he is). I think it’s possible that his career could end, but highly unlikely – the media wants to report the hell out of that though b/c it generates more interest in their stories.
by cjmulrain on Sep 25, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Phillips aside
I read on a medical site that arthritis, and this arthritis, is degenerative… that it never gets better, it’s only a question of how rapidly it gets worse. I really do hope KP is able to pursue a treatment program until next July that will allow him to manage the condition and play… but mostly I just hope things are well for him. Can be really tough on a young athlete’s psyche.
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Sep 25, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's is exactly what I mentioned
Yesterday..this is a very serious injury..and the reasons the Doctor’s decided he needed to be IR’d is because they don’t know how to treat it..or if they even can treat it..One treatment is a knee replacement..that’ll end the kids career..This problem only gets worse..If they play him he’d be crippled eventually at a young age..Shows you alot about the class and caring the Giants organization has in regard to their players..The only team that also has a retirement plan for their players, which was established by Wellington Mara years and years ago to protect their players after their careers ended. Most teams would push him to play, the Giants want to help him and made the proper decision to stop the damage now..and hope for the best.
by Bobbiblue on Sep 25, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
do you have any references / add'l info
on that “only team … retirement program?” I’m impressed and want more info before I brag to rival fans about that
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Sep 25, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
S-M I have no other specific references..just
Just articles I’ve read on Wellington Mara..and how he provided for his players after they retired..It is the truth.
by Bobbiblue on Sep 25, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just look at Conrad Dobler
Phil Mickleson paid for his knee transplant/replacement..The Cardinals didn’t..Tell me one Giant player that left and had to rely on a donation for help..Answer: none..Maras take care of their players. Always.
by Bobbiblue on Sep 25, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hold on just a sec
a knee replacement is what he’s lookin at waaaay down the road. (it was 41 yrs btw my original knee knee injury and my TKR.)
maybe this new “microfracture” surgery will provide some relief, and allow him to salvage his career – maybe it will just allow him to live a normal life. just give the kid some time to decide what’s best for HIM, and not what’s best for the team.
& kudos to the organization for thinking of the player first. they are, and have always been, a CLASS organization.
by NYer in a strange land on Sep 25, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and, for the record,
its not an injury. its a Medical CONDITION. nobody’s fault. not the result of any single trauma. not JR’s fault for not knowing b4 the draft. shit happens.
just wish the kid well.
by NYer in a strange land on Sep 25, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Microfracture Surgery won't help his condition..and
The procedure is still suspect..He’s only 24 years old..and can’t afford having a knee replaced this young..that would be horrible for him in the long run..The Giants won’t allow him to ruin his long term life.
by Bobbiblue on Sep 25, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just a second
The defence forced 4 turnovers against Dallas and kept the Giants in the game as the offence could not score TD’s (don’t forget the defence has scored a TD in both games).
So my take is the defence is doing enough to keep the Giants in the game long enough for the offence to win it.
Now if the offence starts scoring more TD’s the then the defence has to play “keep the lead” so we can then play run out the clock football.
by G Fan in England on Sep 25, 2009 11:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The defense kept Dallas close..They
Gave up 269 yards rushing…Our Secondary played great..and now we are missing a key player yet again due to injury..Our DL and LBs played alright but still overall the Cowpunks came close to beating us without a passing game.
by Bobbiblue on Sep 25, 2009 12:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Three teams
gave up over 200 yards rushing and won last weekend because the other team was unable to pass the ball effectivity enough to close out the game.
See some of my other posts – passing and stopping the pass is what wins you games.
by G Fan in England on Sep 25, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
IMO
they knew in preseason when he started complaining about it. it wouldn’t take but one X-ray for the Drs to know what was going on but they kept it quite and were going to try and see if he could play through the pain. but apparently it has gotten worse and they needed to make a decision.
i too wish him well.
by JG131 on Sep 25, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sure
They have known exactly what the condition was for a while now. The variable was how long he could actually play on it. Turns out they couldn’t manage it and keep him on the field.
by Ed Valentine on Sep 25, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree..I don't think the Doctors had any idea..Mostly because he was...
KP was fighting the pain..Once it got worse , he had no choice and the Giants being the class act they are deciided to protect him after the Doctors had a closer look..I wish him the best, he’s tough..but this does not look good at all.
by Bobbiblue on Sep 25, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excuse me jg131
An X-ray would not reveal the extent of his condition..It took an MRI and analysis to determine the condition he is suffering from..An X-ray wouldn’t show anything like this..this is very very serious..and I for one would not want one of my kids fighting thru pain only to be crippled at 40 years old. We can hope for the best, but this is really bad.
by Bobbiblue on Sep 25, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way
There is no way in the NFL a guy sits out of practice and doesn’t get checked out by the Drs. they had to know. which makes JRs decision to not bring in additional safeties all the more puzzling during preseason.
by JG131 on Sep 25, 2009 3:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The problem with diagnosis is simple..
We all try to avoid Doctors..at all costs..He was hiding his hurt and pain..We all do that.
by Bobbiblue on Sep 25, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
so, your saying he sat out of the preseason games, practice and practice the last couple of weeks and he was able to hide this pain and hurt from the drs. i just fined it hard to believe that any orginization in this day and age wouldn’t give him a good checking out . i don’t think it would have been an option for kenny to not see the drs.
as i said earlier that is my opinion.
by JG131 on Sep 25, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Count rhythm
Perhaps Eli vary his count rhythm more often, Simms used to do that very well. He would do a hard count and draw an off side. I’ve notice the Cowboy defense anticipate Eli’s count on run plays
by Olddiehard on Sep 25, 2009 6:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Eli Manning is one of the best in the league at the hard count.
Its not that they are in the backfield on these runs. Its that the O-Line must be doing something to tip the runs.
Also, the Giants faced two of the best DT’s in the game in Albert Haynesworth and Jay Ratliff.
Gotta credit the defense too. Haynesworth is large. Ratliff is extremely fast and strong for an undersized NG.
What the f$%k is the internet?
by FreeBradshaw on Sep 25, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
12K enough???
Hey guy’s I’m new to this bolg, but an old timer to Ernie’s “TJN” blog!
My question is 12K really enough of a fine for taking a CHEEP shot at Justin Tuck? For me that was school yard “crap” to say it mildly! I’ve said it a thousand times the quote-un-quote America’s team shouldn’t be called America’s team! They have been playing dirty fooball from the “clean-cut” days of Rodger Staubach!!! This kind of Cowboy “BS” won’t end until all the teams stand up to “JJ”!!! Wasn’t New York founded before Texas?? We are America’s team!!
by Topcolour1 on Sep 26, 2009 8:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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