Land of the Giants: Tuck still ticked
by Ed Valentine on Sep 24, 2009 7:15 AM EDT
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PrintFlozell Adams' wallet is $12,500 lighter, but Justin Tuck is still angry about the tripping penalty that left him with a partially torn labrum
"It makes me hate the Cowboys a little bit more. You can write that I did say hate. I stand by what I said right after the game that it was a bush league play. You move on, that’s my plan, to move on," Tuck said. "Normally, people go to the Pro Bowl for blocking people, not tripping people. So maybe he should keep his feet on the ground. We’re not going to get into a war of words here, we are going to let it be what it is, and I’ll see Flozell (Adams) when we play them again."
Tuck would like to get a piece of former Giants running back Derrick Ward this weekend. Tuck said Ward, now with Tampa Bay, "has been calling me and guys around here talking a little trash so I would love to be able to go out there and shut him up a little bit."
- Ward may be talking trash privately, but he has played the model of humility in his public comments about the Giants.
"I learned to become a man with the Giants. When I got into the league, I didn’t have any direction when it came to the NFL. I was content to play special teams and really not playing because of Tiki (Barber) and then the injuries that I had. Playing with the Giants it taught me how to overcome adversity and to work as hard as I can to get to the point where I want to be in my career," Ward said. "That is what I did the past few years in New York. The Giants prepared me to become the player that I am today. I will always be in debt to the Giants when it comes to that factor."
- The Bucs are 0-2, but Tom Coughlin doesn't want to hear talk about Tampa Bay being an easy victory for the Giants this weekend.
"They are aggressive. They run extremely well on the defensive side of the ball. They have good special teams, a Pro Bowl player, punt returner, kickoff returner in (Clifton) Smith. So they do have multiple weapons and they have played two games which were very tight," Coughlin said. "They are averaging 401 yards a game. And they are 0-2. So it doesn’t quite fit. It doesn’t quite jive together."
- Defensive tackle Chris Canty thinks his calf injury is a direct result of all the time he missed in pre-season due to a hamstring injury.
"I've come to realize that I didn't have the training camp that I would have liked to have had so sometimes you have those little tweaks and nicks here and there as a result of not having the work in training camp," he said. "I don’t think it's anything more than the body not being used to football movements."
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Long injury list
Looked at the injury list and see Hixon and Tuck did not take part. Neither did Phillips but I am assuming he will play.
Good to see Sintim was able to practice. If he can go on Sunday for 20 or so snaps this takes the pressure of Kiwi and Tolf if Tuck is held out.
Boley will be a further week on in terms of fitness and playing the game at full speed.
In some respects we are lucky that we are in the softer part of our schedule to enable players like Canty, Ross, Nicks and Ware to heal before the season really heats up in week 8 when we play the Eagles.
by G Fan in England on Sep 24, 2009 7:30 AM EDT reply actions
agreed.
If you had to choose a time to be a bit banged up, then this is a good time. Similar situation that the Eagles are in.
by BigBlue4Life on Sep 24, 2009 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions
LBs
They seem to be rounding into shape. AP seems to be back to his old self. I’m also excited to see what Sintim can do and Boley was very good last week. Much better than I expected for someone playing his first game with a new team coming back from injury. Another great move by JR.
Your right
We are going into what should be a relatively easy stretch..But as Coughlin said you can never let your guard down, basically..and I too would never think he’d use the word “Jive”..lol Surprised that Ward would talk up some trash privately..but nonetheless it is trash talk. I don’t blame Tuck still being po’d over that dirty Adams..That guy is getting away with doing that dirty crap every game he plays!!!..a 12,500.00 fine???..That is just a slap on the wrist..He’ll keep it up if the league doesn’t do more..He should be suspended without pay indefinitely..I haven’t heard Osi saying anything about the Adams attempt to take him out, but I bet he has his number..It would be great if they could rest Tuck for awhile during this period and let him heal…and hopefully the rest of our injured guys will be ready soon.
I am not overlooking TB
But I think we are all glad we are away to Tampa this week and the Chiefs the week after rather than the Saints or Eagles who are the away games after that.
by G Fan in England on Sep 24, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes..
Tampa and Kansas City will hopefully in two wins while our guys are healing..The Saints with Brees will cause us fits if our secondary is not in game-shape..Philly is pretty banged up right now, also..but they may very well get their players healed up before we play them…so, those two games are going to be tough…If we don’t have our players healthy..At least those teams play clean football.
Boley's injury vs. other player injuries
With all of these injuries there is one aspect that is frustrating. Boley’s injury needed surgery, it was repaired and a timetable to return was attached. Now these other injuries, pulls, strains, tweaks etc… there seems to be no timetable? Only rest and time! Ugh, how much time? Everyone heals at different intervals and reacts differently to treatment to nonsurgical injuries.
I just hope that at some point, we can field a full team of projected starters. There is so much more this team can accomplish if we could!
And of course, Tuck now! A tear is a tear, and i highly doubt that time will repair that? I’m all for shutting him down for atleast the next two or three games, but then what? If it does need to be surgically repaired beyond that (which it probably will regardless), he’ll probably will be lost for the remainder of the season?!
Again, it’s frustrating!
Hoot,
I did some research after it happened (homer, I know) and it seems that surgery is almost always optional, depending on the severity. Declining surgery often leads to a greater likelihood of further injury such as dislocation.
However, if the tear is as minor as he claims, were he not the NYGs DE, his doctors would tell him to immobilize it for a few weeks, then begin a slow rehab process. The risks of not pursuing surgery are that it gets further aggravated or injured, that he’s never back to 100%, and that he knows in his mind he has to be careful with that arm. I immediately thought of Mike Lowell of the Sox, whose career basically ended on a torn labrum (hip, another ball/socket). But of course there are levels of tear.
If he does have surgery, most likely, season over. It seems he won’t and may not even in the off season if he gets through without it getting worse.
I’d hate to find out the Giants are concealing the severity and then he gets more injured.
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Sep 24, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Gotta love how this team,
unlike some fans (haven’t been reading much of it on BBV, but a few other blogs have fans thinking the game’s won already) realize that every game is a big week.
Interesting that Eli says that while Plax was the decoy last year, Jacobs so far has been the decoy cuz teams are game planning for Jacobs.
Also, every time I hear or read an Eli interview, its harder to believe that he’s called the biggest prankster on the team. I just can’t see it.
And Raheem Morris may have just instigated Bossman going off this week. Called him a 7th rounder…
What the f$%k is the internet?
Raheem Morris
Just brought TB back to the McVay days..You can’t overlook any team and slack off, but they may be this year’s version of the Lions.
Running game
Somebody tell Eli -0.5 yds a game isn’t going to cut it, he has to get that avg. up to +1 ypg. LOL
Jive
Not sure why, but the thought of Tom Coughlin saying “jive” makes me laugh.
Man, that Dallas rematch can’t happen soon enough…
LOL!!
I thought the same thing when I read it.
by Ed Valentine on Sep 24, 2009 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
stats
Ed, I believe young Mr. Johnson deserves a 1 in his INTTD category.
Kenny P. does too but that’s another story…
Could be
These come from an outside source. They aren’t compiled here.
by Ed Valentine on Sep 24, 2009 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Guys in the office tlaking about Manningham being injured (but only as it relates to their fantasy team...)
being down Hixon, Nicks, and Manningham would probably draw doubles on smith and put a lot of pressure on the run game. Moss and Hagan aren’t going to light it up. Keep your fingers crossed for health
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Sep 24, 2009 10:02 AM EDT reply actions
Ed, check those stats
Remember, “THEY” say that Eli is inconsistant and not that good. “THEY” say that we have no receivers and we are doomed without 17 & 81. I know it’s only two games (against division rivials and two tough defenses) but this can’t be right. Eli passing at a 67% clip with a rating over 100 and two WRs in the league lead in catches and yards. Someone’s playing a joke on us.
This is still preseason
when do the games start for real?
What they have – I thought I was dreaming too when I saw Eli’s stat line.
Mind you – it won’t be long before they start talking about how Eli will cope with the swirling winds come late season…
by G Fan in England on Sep 24, 2009 10:51 AM EDT reply actions
Week 8
I’m getting married the afternoon of the first philly game.
I know where my dad will be during the reception lol
uh
its time to turn in your fandom credentials.
i mean: “what were you thinking?”
by NYer in a strange land on Sep 24, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Combo of things
Off season prices, she wanted leaves on the tree, and during the offseason when we picked it didn’t even occur to me :(
The game will be on during the reception at the bar, I’ll have to sneak out.
your line is:
“Honey, you knew when you agreed to marry me I was a Giants fan.”
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Sep 25, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Eli's stats are pretty darn impressive
especially considering the Redskins are a really good defense, and the Cowboys are probably not the worst defense in the league.
How about Steve Smith
The “Possession Receiver” averaging over 13 yards per catch?
President of the Ramses Barden Fan Club
by Hoyadestroya85 on Sep 24, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I for one agree that it seem better to be banged up now rather than later…with that said,TB can cause several problems…they have a speed back in caddy and a shifty with good speed back in ward,they are probably drooling over our run defense….But when everyone gets back…I think we will be better served as a whole.
Granted Boley had 9 tackles and was all over the place….i hope this week he has a better grasp ad will not be so out of place in the run game..I drafted Mario to my Fantasy team..everyone laughed..HA….I think Moss can do things if given the chance,but he cant block at all…that is why he does not get time on the field,Hagan is bigger and a better blocker…but what do I know..! I feel good about a win if we stay focused..
i dunno maybe I just like the colors
Field goal
Too bad Tynes didn’t miss the first field goal at the end of the game, I would have love to see
the Cowboys faces, when Tynes made the field goal the second time after the time out and win the game instead of losing.
Dirty players
Too bad some guys had to resort to playing dirty and their management condoning it.
Dallas had that reputation for years. In a way it helps the opposing team to play with more
intensity against these dirty players.
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