Its starting to get old, blaming Gilbride, cuz should he so happen to call the dumbest play in history (like say a pitch to the outside on 3rd and goal from the 25 yard line) and it goes in for a TD, he’s a genius right?

I like the idea of the screen pass, but you mention Tiki. Well, Tiki’s a borderline HOF RB, one of the best pass catching RB’s in the game during his time. The Giants don’t have Tiki anymore now do they Cody?

And what the hell was the problem with the offense last night?

I like the idea of the screen, maybe put 2 and 2 together and do a screen in the red zone!

The Giants didn’t win in spite of Gilbride. THe players carry out the plays, no matter how good they are. Failed execution, good defense and just plain bad luck, all play a part. Its not 100% on the frickin guy calling the plays.

The screen pass is an art, not an easy play to run. There’s a reason that Bradshaw has not been freed a lot, its cuz he’s in Coughlin’s doghouse a lot more than likely cuz he can’t run a screen pass in practice.

dallas defense was vulnerable to the screen pass…

they were bringing a lot of pressure and bradshaw is more than capable of catching those passes and turning up field.

I don’t want to criticize the coaches after a win but we certainly asked a lot of eli and his WR’s last night.

I think you make a very good point.

but like FreeBradshaw pointed out…some of that is execution.

i think the giants looked so bad on that “attempted” screen pass to bradshaw in the first half that they just went away from it after that.

Still…i’d like to see more of it.

I know that Giants fans are sort of separated into two camps: those that do not want to heap criticism on Gilbride and those that do.

However, I just want to point out some specific things we have all seen work in the past. I’m not trying to sit here and merely say, “Gilbride’s a bum!!” without saying that there are things that could be different. Instead, I’m thinking about something that would seem to work (HAS WORKED!) with the personnel in place.

But come on…the red zone issues are frightening. I think we can all agree on that. We all heard even Collinsworth and Michaels point that out last night.

when the Cowboys front is athletic and fast. Did Anyone notice Jay Ratliff running down Mario Manningham on a WR screen? We’ve seen the Giants not execute screen well so why use them against a team with big and fast linemen?

Also the Giants max protected all night so blitzes weren’t getting through and the team clearly had faith in Manningham and Smith to get open single covered. There is no reason to throw short when you can make plays down field all game.

There have been several screen passes in each of the first two games. A bunch to the wide receivers, which the Giants haven’t done much before. One to Bradshaw last night. One to Boss that was called back by penalty.
Oh, and stuff like the throw to Hedgecock. Sometimes you have to adjust and throw the ball to a secondary option.
Jeepers. I have to give you a big ‘Wet Willie’ if all you can do after last night is find reasons to criticize Gilbride.

From vacchianos blue screen:

• Not to put a damper on the excitement, but the Giants’ 0-for-5 performance in the red zone (0 for 8, now, on the season) nearly cost them this game. They’ve got to figure out a way to move the ball and score down there. I thought they were going to get creative early when rookie TE Travis Beckum was on the field for their first trip inside the red zone. But Kevin Gilbride’s plays were predictable. And, come on: Dusting off a red-zone swing pass to FB Madison Hedgecock instead of running a fade to 6-6 rookie Ramses Barden? I know Barden isn’t ready for a big role, but would it really be difficult to line him up in the slot and say "Run a fade to the back corner … then use your 7-foot-plus reach to catch the damn ball"?

From one of Gilbride’s biggest detractors:

The first two games have had good results on offense.

Yes, there needs to be progress on the red zone issue because the Giants must become excellent in all facets of the game.

p.s. Tiki = no ring

Yes, the screen is a counter to an aggressive defense, but if your max protecting and you have two WR’s catching 10 apiece, why stray from it?

For the red zone? Seeing how the Giants can move the ball anywhere else on the field, perhaps KG has no plays for this area? lol Afterall, you do run out of field!