New York Giants injury list is painful to look at

by Ed Valentine on Sep 18, 2009 4:18 PM EDT Comment 33 comments

The list of New York Giants who did not practice today is looooooooong. Tom Coughlin spent much of his post-practice presser this afternoon answering questions about the status of key injured players for Sunday.

The very ugly injury picture sums up like this.

Chris Canty (calf), Clint Sintim (groin), Adam Koets (ankle) and Danny Ware (elbow) are out. We already knew Aaron Ross and Hakeem Nicks were no-go's.
Starting safety Kenny Phillips and cornerback Kevin Dockery are questionable.
Michael Boley appears ready for his first action as a Giant. Hooray, some good news!

The most discouraging news out of all of this has to be the ongoing knee injuries being experienced by Phillips. Coughlin said it was something the team was "going to manage this for the year."

Being the stickler for preparation that he is Coughlin is worried -- justifiably -- about the limitations that are being placed on Phillips' practice time. To say nothing of whether this is an injury he can actually get through the season with.

"Let's face it, when you don't practice every day there is something. He has to make up for it by the studying, being with his coach, the little tips and keys that you get," Coughlin said. "But when he worked he was obviously very good in center field and he obviously got some very good clues because he ended up where the ball was probably three or four times yesterday. So he is just going to have to work extra hard in the classroom."

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Wow

This is not good news.

Ware and Nicks were game injuries – but the others! At what point do we start looking at the training staff and say what is going on here.

by G Fan in England on Sep 18, 2009 4:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

well....i didn't wanna go there

but we have to start wondering if this is a coincidence or incompetence.

especially considering it’s hamstrings, groins, and calf strains….

"If you don't know what you're doing... just rush the quarterback" - LT

by andiamo708 on Sep 18, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why?

Is it always the training staff’s fault? Sometimes injuries just happen.

by Ed Valentine on Sep 18, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Respectfully, Ed

I think it’s the quality of player’s that are injured, that have some of the masses wondering?! Just the list of player’s listed above, 7 are contributor’s of what can be a dominant team to the healthy ones.

Yes, injuries do happen from time to time, but, like myself, what’s with all of these injuries? Accountability does exist from individuals that fumble, INT’s, penalties etc… but this does seem a little ridiculous?! Who is accountable for all these injuries? It’s only week two!

Soooo many, soooo soon? Not to mention that it’s seems to be all in one time frame! I know thing’s can happen in an instant, but again, this is ridiculous (injuries)!

Are the Giant’s now a dealer/buyer of fine glass-ware and Jacobs runs through it?

by Hootman on Sep 18, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know

Very frustrating. Bu, I doubt there is an explanation. I know Ross came into camp hurt after tweaking the hammy working out on his own. I sure can’t explain the rest. Some years are like that, though. Every time you turn around it’s someone else.

by Ed Valentine on Sep 18, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If it was freak injuries like broken arms or concussions like that it would make sense

But you have to at least think that the training staff has something to do with it. Pulled hamstrings can be prevented.

by obrient15 on Sep 18, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

took the words right outta my mouth

"If you don't know what you're doing... just rush the quarterback" - LT

by andiamo708 on Sep 18, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

the types of injuries...

all these muscle pulls and strains…i don’t get it. Are they stretching properly? Or for long enough? idk.

here’s another thing to consider…ross had a MRI before he came back to practice, yes he felt good enough but they obviously cleared him to play…and than what? on the seconday play he goes down in a heap?

Obviously i’m not part of the giants organization and i have no clue what goes on…but to rush a guy in camp and than lose him for the entire pre season and at least 2 regular season games…well, that’s pretty bad.

I know injuries happen, and i know that they can come in bunches…But after Ross, I’m watching Dockery pretty closely b/c they also pushed him in practice this week. Coughlin said he’s “sore” , MG suggested it may have been a “setback”….we’ll find out Sunday.

I don’t want to say it’s the trainers fault or we lost because of injuries…because honestly, i think we win this game. What i’m saying is that, the amount of muscle strains/pulls is crazy IMO. It’s one thing when you bust up a knee or break something…but all these injuries that have progressively gotten worse…not right.

"If you don't know what you're doing... just rush the quarterback" - LT

by andiamo708 on Sep 18, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not to mention Sintim and this groin problem...

how long has that lingered?

"If you don't know what you're doing... just rush the quarterback" - LT

by andiamo708 on Sep 18, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not a doomsayer kind of guy

But if this is the same staff that more than half the payroll of the mets is on the DL

and the giants have tons of nongame injuries, I don’t see how it can be so many coincidences.

I hope I’m wrong, but after seeing a promising met squad get obliterated by injuries, I really hope that the Giants don’t get the same bug

by Willgfass on Sep 18, 2009 5:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

goddamit.

first the Mets, now this.
i swear…

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Sep 18, 2009 5:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

right there with ya squid

by cjmulrain on Sep 18, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

good thing the cursed team

plays in green and white in football.

Not saying I aint worried, but the Giants can overcome this. We all know who the true big guns are on the team is and (**knock on wood) as long as they are healthy, I think the Giants don’t have Met syndrome.

At least not yet (and at least the ones that are occuring don’t seem like season enders.)

What the f$%k is the internet?

by FreeBradshaw on Sep 18, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Doomsday stuff

Off the ledge, folks! It’s football, you are going to have guys banged up and playing with various ailments every week. It’s Week 2, not the playoffs, and the Giants are putting a very, very good football team on the field Sunday.

by Ed Valentine on Sep 18, 2009 6:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I agree, i was probably overreacting

But still, it get frustrating when right when I was looking forward to forgetting about the met’s injuries, and looking forward to the G-Men, that a players who have never missed games are suddenly injured.

We’ll overcome it, I’m sure, but I don’t want to tell my cowboys friend that we lost because of injuries. I hate that excuse, and I’d rather that we lost because the other team was better than us, no excuses.
Of course if we win, so much the better

by Willgfass on Sep 18, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well ...

I have to cut you some slack since you are a suffering Mets fan. Rooting for the wrong NY baseball team can take a toll on a person. LOL!!

by Ed Valentine on Sep 18, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

us Mets fans are like abused dogs

even if someone is friendly and just raising their hand to pet us, we’re still gonna pee a little bit.

by cjmulrain on Sep 18, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Even though we have a nicked up team

I still think we are in good shape. I also think that Osi, Tuck, and Kiwi are the keys to keeping the Cowboy O in check. Those three will have to generate pressure from the outside and keep Romo inside of a collasping pocket. Romo is quite dangerous when he is on the move and can extend a play. The key is going to be forcing him back to the middle where there should be a lot of chaos. This is going to be a little bit tougher than last week. Forget about the popcorn, get your Pepto Bismol ready.

by njgiant on Sep 18, 2009 6:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

youth and depth

it’s never nice to see so many players out. on the other hand, it will give our younger players a chance to step up… there is a lot of talent in our 2nd and 3rd string… just please keep our offensive line intact.

by Cornfields on Sep 18, 2009 6:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

lets hope nobody pulls a fred robbins on us

by karamjitm9090 on Sep 18, 2009 10:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Conditioning coach

I don’t know who it is, but it seems like we need a change;;. For the past few years now it seems like we have stupid injuries that can be fixed. Not freak injuries like broken limbs but pulled muscles . That seems fixable.

by obrient15 on Sep 18, 2009 10:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Giants's free agents and injuries

Why did Dallas let Canty go? Why did the Giants get so lucky in getting other players?
Maybe those teams knew something…

by bongoman19 on Sep 19, 2009 1:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Guys do have to pass physicals

before they are signed.

Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!

by bigbluethruandthru on Sep 19, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Giant's paid Canty $42mil...that's why the Cowboy's let him go...

by CaliFanInTx on Sep 19, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Taking all the above into question

my biggest concern is Phillips, because muscle pulls can heal in a relatively short time span. If his knee is in bad shape he could easily go down for the season. We need him out there badly, both for his talent and for the lack of depth behind him.

Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!

by bigbluethruandthru on Sep 19, 2009 11:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

well he looked goddamn good!

by obrient15 on Sep 21, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Guys, look at your team OLine and DLine

Those are the 2 most noticeable areas when something conditioning wise is going wrong, the OLine is healthy, and has been as healthy for a long time as possible, and along the DLine they’ve been healthy for the most part for several years.

Injuries happen and it’s a shame that your team will be impaired for Sunday… Good luck, health and for an injuries free 2nd game.

Viva México! Go Cowboys!

by Chandus on Sep 19, 2009 11:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Your right in those regards

I’m thankfully thinking that we do still have our OL and minus Canty, the DL (knocking on alot of wood)!!! Each unit will have an importance of the outcome of this game. Whether it’s keeping Eli alive and pressure free or the running game churning out 5 yards a pop. The DL (just the front four) doing their part to disrupt the passing game and minimal yards as possible per rushing attempt.

The way i see it, with the uncertainty amongst who’s playing, especially the secondary, this is by far a good/bad test for Sheridan! I’m still optimistic, so perhaps an unknown hero will emerge and make the difference?! Who? I’m not sure, but maybe Sheridan or Gilbride (on offense) will have them in the right place and at the right time?!!!

by Hootman on Sep 19, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

NY Giants Injuries

Hey Guys, I think the injuries are becoming a big problem for the G-men this year. I still think Big Blue will beat the Cowboys tomorrow but we need to get these players healthy. I’m most concerned with CB Aaron Ross. Our DB’s should benefit from our incredible Defensive line and be in the top 5 teams for INT’s, if we can stay healthy. Tom Coughlin must be going crazy about all the players we have already lost for the year and those that continue to be banged up.

This is my first post on the site. I am a die hard Giants fan and look forward to reading all of your posts.

GO GIANTS!!

by RobDomaine on Sep 19, 2009 1:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I don't know about big problem....

Aaron Ross is the Brandon Jacobs of the defense, except this year Ross is getting hurt in practice all the time. He always seemed to be that player the camera’s saw walking into the locker room before the half with an injury.

The thing about all the injuries is that its no big starters, tho Phillips may be the first one.

The big guys on both lines are fine, the top 3 WR are fine, Boss is fine and Webster is fine.

The only real concern I have is if these become nagging injuries throughout the season.

What the f$%k is the internet?

by FreeBradshaw on Sep 19, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

At least...

Boley seem’s like he is going to play. I think he is a huge part of this defense. Like a previous poster said, muscle strains and pulls heal, but Phillips is the only one who’s injury concerns me. Hopefully the G-Men come out of this game healthy and by next week these banged up guys start coming back. Go BIG BLUE!!!!!

by True Blue Phil on Sep 20, 2009 6:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Injuries definitely a big problem

I disagree FreeBradshaw. I think the injuries are a very big problem already this early in the season. I am not going to list them all because there are a lot. I am not in panic mode but you have to be concerned about all the players on IR already and the rest that are banged up. Thank goodness the G-men are a deep team but already by week 2 we are dipping into our reserves and getting players off the wire. I am hopeful that we will be fine but I am concerned.

And yes I agree, Boley making his first start for the Giants today is some good news finally.

GO NY GIANTS!!

by RobDomaine on Sep 20, 2009 12:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

there's 2 players on IR.....

Alford, our 8th DL, and Andre Brown, our 4th RB.

Ware will be back in a couple weeks, Nicks too. Oh yea, Ware is the 3rd RB and Nicks the 4th/5th WR.

Canty is week to week, but in all likelyhood he’s playing next week. Ross who knows, but that’s nothing new with him.

Phillips is really the only big one that might have a chance of hurting the Giants, but he’s probably playing tonight too

Aside from Phillips, who probably will play tonight, there is no injury to the starters. Just the depth. The depth comes into play later in the season. All these guys coming back from injury should be fresh when they come back.

Its not a small deal that there are a lot of injuries, but its not a big deal either. Especially since they aren’t gonna be out forever, aren’t starters, and its only week 2. THe W/L column hasn’t been effected yet.

What the f$%k is the internet?

by FreeBradshaw on Sep 20, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs