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Meet Gartrell Johnson, the newest New York Giant

OK, so here is more than you ever wanted to know about Gartrell Johnson, the running back the New York Giants claimed off waivers Tuesday from the San Diego Chargers.

I reached out to the folks at SB Nation's Chargers blog, Bolts From The Blue, for the low-down on Johnson. Here's what I got from John, who goes by the intriguing screen name 'obviousman.' I think it's an honest, intriguing assessment.

OK, well let me start off by saying I was a big Gartrell Johnson fan. Anyone who saw his bowl game against Fresno State would be, and I watched it live.  Here's as good of a scouting report as I can give on Gartrell:

Gartrell is a power back, through and through. Or at least he will be one some day. The Chargers were holding onto him because they loved his potential, but he really needs to learn to stay low after first contact. Too often he would hit somebody (sometimes his own lineman) and get stood up, then immediately get taken down. His size also makes him less-than-ideal for the power back spot, but the kid runs with strength and hits with violence.

There are negatives in his game though.  For one, he has zero speed. I doubt he ever takes a carry for more than 15 yards in his entire NFL career. There were two instances in the preseason where he had nobody in front of him and was caught from behind easily by a LB. The second flaw is patience, which isn't rare for a rookie.  He has a hard time waiting for the hole to develop, partly because he's almost at full-speed when he gets the ball (I loved that about him), and can ruin plays that way.

If Gartrell can become more patient and stay low to the ground, he has a real future as a goal-line back in the NFL. He wasn't cut because of anything he did, but rather because the Chargers need bodies for all of the injuries that are stacking up on both lines. Also, Michael Bennett completely and totally outperformed Gartrell in the pre-season.

He's a good project back to have on the roster, and with an O-line like the Giants have he could be an effective goal-line back this season. However, he will never be Jacobs, Bradshaw or even [Derrick] Ward.

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Johnson ran for 184 yards on 48 carries (3.8 yards per carry) and caught seven passes for 57 yards during the exhibition season.

Here's a pre-draft scouting report on the 5-foot-11, 218-pound rookie from Colorado State. It comes courtesy of SB Nation's fine draft blog, Mocking the Draft. By the way, the Chargers drafted Johnson in the fourth round.

Strengths: A powerfully built, one-cut running back, Johnson really came on during his senior season. Quick feet and has good agility. Great vision. Has a body that allows him to shake off tacklers. Runs with a good, wide base. Gets terrific body lean and could be good in short yardage plays.

Weaknesses: Does not have great speed. Doesn't have a great initial burst at the line of scrimmage, which can make it hard for him to quickly scoot through a hole. Not the best receiver out of the backfield. Needs to improve his hands and route running.

Final word: Johnson has an NFL-sized frame, but questions about his speed and quickness hitting the hole greatly limit his upside. A powerful running back, Johnson can break tackles and run over opponents.

Johnson was Colorado State University's leading rusher the past three years and last fall ran for 1,476 yards, the second-best total in school history, according to the Coloradoan.

Here is one more look at Johnson, a video from DraftGuysTV.

Sounds like a guy who might turn into another useful, under-the-rader "get" for GM Jerry Reese. Perhaps he will eventually help in short-yardage, where we know the Giants have issues.

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He did have a 42 yard run in preseason so he does have some speed.

However, if he is not game ready I am not sure how much he can help us now unless he is only going to learn a small part of the playbook and Ware will return in a couple of weeks.

So JR surprises us again with this and the other moves. Bear Pascoe is not a real big TE so is he more of a receiver/HB type.

by G Fan in England on Sep 16, 2009 6:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Pascoe

isn’t a receiver whatsoever.. he’s strictly a blocker.

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by Hoyadestroya85 on Sep 16, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right and the guy does have a good sized frame. Plus he’s a long snapper too.

by scrambledeggs on Sep 17, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

42 yard run wasn't Speed related

I’ve never understood the idea that yardage or a 20+ yard run equates to player speed. It’s just not true! I am a huge Gartrell Fan! The Chargers were morons for letting him go! Still, he doesn’t have speed. He does have very high stamina and towards the end of a game, he does look a little faster. Still, this is an illusion!

Did you watch that 40 yard run or are you just going off the stats of the preseason? If you had watched that play you wouldn’t be defending his speed or coming to the conclusion that his speed is what broke that run. I’m pretty sure is was a Cover Zero or Cover One, The LB’s & S’s were totally out of their gaps and Gartrell’s good vision allowed him to get to the empty secondary untouched… and then he was totally ran down. Had he had anymore speed, it would have been a TD.

Also, he really has to working on catching the ball. He’s good at it if he is facing the pass but when he runs under the ball he tends to loose speed and struggles to adjust to the ball.

I still really like him as a future player. I do think that because of his size to stamina ratio, he has a very high ceiling. I also don’t think he’ll end the season on NYG practice squad. He’s just too good of a power back to sit on the PS.

by Larsonite on Oct 8, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plus

Sounds like he does not have the initial burst to hit the hole in short yardage, but does fit the running game between the 20’s.

Can we get that old Bengal Kinnebrew out of retirement – I seem to recall he was unstoppable in short yardage.

by G Fan in England on Sep 16, 2009 6:36 AM EDT reply actions  

4.75?

That’s a joke and had to be mistimed (I think there was a problem with that this draft. He seems like a Derrick Ward type.

Is he going to the practice squad to replace Allen Patrick? Are Both on the big squad?

What the f$%k is the internet?

by FreeBradshaw on Sep 16, 2009 6:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Johnson is on the big squad and Patrick has been cut from the team completely, but may be reinstated to the Practice squad later in the season.

by G Fan in England on Sep 16, 2009 7:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

O...

I missed that I guess.

What the f$%k is the internet?

by FreeBradshaw on Sep 16, 2009 7:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

In the short run

If he’s used at all, I’m sure they could get him up to speed for short yardage situations. More likely, he’s just a body in case of emergencies while we wait for Ware to come back. Then Johnson goes to the practice squad and we see if he can develop his skills a bit. I do like the idea of having another runner who really attacks the line of scrimmage.

On another note, I’m really surprised that they cut Reyes. The coaches must see more in Boothe, Whimper, and Koets than we all have. Everybody is down on Whimper, but I seem to remember him filling in a bit in 2007 and holding his own. Last year of course he got hurt early. Koets and Boothe have never looked good to my untrained eye. Still with 7 wide receivers and 9 linebackers it seemed as if the cuts could have come elsewhere. I guess they’re still hoping to get something in return for guys like Moss or Wilkinson. The Eagles tried that, but ended up releasing Feeley and Hank Baskett. Hopefully Reese’s patience will pay off - but I still hope we don’t have to see if the coaches’ faith in our O-line reserves is justified.

by Tucker Fredrickson on Sep 16, 2009 7:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Yes I was also surprised

About both Reyes and Patrick..but of course we don’t see the day-to-day stuff..the intangibles, like attitude, heart, focus etc.. Maybe they lacked too much of that and became expensible..

by Bobbiblue on Sep 16, 2009 7:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

If he shows anything

this could be a nice move by Reese. A flier on a young guy w/some upside. We’ll see how it works out.

by Ed Valentine on Sep 16, 2009 7:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agree. A bet on his upside

But I will wager he plays special teams well.

We have our fourth RB – he is on IR

by MSP Giant on Sep 16, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

He sure doesn’t look like a 4.75 on the video..Seems alot quicker than that..Heck I used to run a 4.5..(Of course now I think I can run it in about 30 minutes..lol)..If he truly posted a 4.75, then it must of been just a bad day at the office, he looks quicker than that..and I love seeing him disappear in the line…reminds me a little bit of Sproles..Now you see me, now you don’t kind of moves..plus it looks like he can catch..He was 1 for two on the video..The one he missed was a tough catch, but I loved the one he caught..right over the shoulder going full tilt downfield..but who knows, they must see something in him to let Patrick go.

by Bobbiblue on Sep 16, 2009 7:10 AM EDT reply actions  

A shame

His 42 yard run against the Falcons is not on the game highlights on NFL.com – is it on Utube or similiar?

by G Fan in England on Sep 16, 2009 7:38 AM EDT reply actions  

All this being said, can’t wait to see him rush for 1000 yards behind our offensive line

On a side note, did anyone else hear Strahan on Howard Stern yesterday? The stories he was telling about pranks the players would pull were funny and disturbing

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Sep 16, 2009 8:44 AM EDT reply actions  

I heard it all

I don’t think you’re going to hear that Shaun O’Hara cut a hole in his uniform pants to trick Eli into getting his hands teabagged on the Joe Buck show. Or that O-Lineman pee on each other in the locker room because they think it’s funny. That’s one of the things that makes Stern great. He really gets more out of his guests than anybody else. Anyway Strahan sounded like he’s got a lot going on and has got it together. Also said his ex-wife was basically the devil.

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by Simms-McConkey on Sep 16, 2009 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

How many times...

Have we seen career running backs get drafted out of the fourth round or later?

This is a steal.

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by tito (eight and oh) on Sep 16, 2009 8:51 AM EDT reply actions  

I like it

Mostly because he was drafted by the Chargers. They seem to know what they’re doing when it comes to drafting running backs.

With that said, Andre Brown has way more upside and will be the better back. But like we always say, “In Resse I trust”.

by BigBoyJacobs on Sep 16, 2009 8:54 AM EDT reply actions  

He should be a competent fill-in

maybe he can develop into something more once he is put back to the PS (and hopefully no one grabs him).

by brisulph on Sep 16, 2009 10:04 AM EDT reply actions  

How about using him at FB?

Hedgecock is a fav of mine but lets be honest he’s not the most athletic FB in the league but it would be nice to have pass-catching FB/HB. He looks like a good check option for Eli and he could help disguise the offense a little better. I mean when you see Hedgecock in the game 9 out of 10 times its a run play.

by Major on Sep 16, 2009 10:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Exactly...LOL

However, I can’t wait for him to “row to the pro bowl” again!

by Major on Sep 16, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's too too small for fullback

Maybe they should put Jacobs at fullback…and have him and Bradshaw tear it up..Then we’d have two scooters following a wrecking ball into the holes.

by Bobbiblue on Sep 16, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps...

But he hasn’t helped his career longevity carrying a ball either..If we used him to blow up holes with no ball in his hands, it could very well extend his career..Just a thought.

by Bobbiblue on Sep 16, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reuben Droughns was slow as hell

But that didn’t stop him from putting up gaudy numbers for the Broncos. Speed over 40 yards means nothing to me, as long as he has some explosion i’m fine with him.

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by Hoyadestroya85 on Sep 16, 2009 1:40 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

I’ll take a guy who gets 4-5 yards every time over a guy who can beat the secondary down an open field — sounds like the description of a certain Brandon Jacobs, actually

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by Simms-McConkey on Sep 16, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Football speed fellas

I don’t know who r RB coach is or who it’s been over the past decade or so, but it must be someone who can shape up a guy. Tiki handled his fumblitis, and really excelled later on in his career. Jacobs is more than just a big guy and his running has been subtly evolving. I was never a big Ward fan, but he’s emerged as a top tier RB. And for the past 3 preseason’s I’ve seen 4 RBs that could be potential stars on someone else’s roster. Someone knows how to grab RB w/ upside and someone’s fine-tuning them.

by YankeeDudeL on Sep 16, 2009 4:27 PM EDT reply actions  

GJ is a bone-crusher

I remember watching him @ Colorado St. He can run straight through people.

I think this is a total steal. GMen were at the right place, right time with this one. Reese is a total stud.

by Cody K on Sep 16, 2009 5:39 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm definitely intrigued.

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by squid92 on Sep 16, 2009 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

he adds something

Seems like a perfect guy for third down and one yard to go. Save Brandon’s body from having to crash into those piles. In that way, he could fit in the rotation more than Ware could, who is really only a sub in case somebody gets hurt.

by hopeforthefuture3 on Sep 17, 2009 6:41 PM EDT reply actions  

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