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Phew! Good news on Hakeem Nicks

From Mike Garafolo, comes very good news about the long-term status of rookie wide receiver Hakeem Nicks.

The Giants and first-round pick Hakeem Nicks received good news Monday, when an MRI exam revealed that the Lisfranc joint in the receiver's injured left foot was not damaged, according to someone with knowledge of the results of the examination. ...

The news that Nicks' Lisfranc joint, which is located in the center of the foot and connects the metatarsal bones (those in the toes) to the tarsal bones (those in the arch), is unharmed means that Nicks should return from his foot sprain within 2-3 weeks.

Thank you, thank you to the Gods of football injuries. Nicks had been emerging as a player who could be a key part of the Giants passing attack. Now, we can still hold out hope that he can be just that during the second half of the season.

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I can breathe a sigh of relief. Nice to have that depth at WR right now as well.

If only we can say the same about RB right now. Anyword on Ware?

by Lucky7 on Sep 14, 2009 2:13 PM EDT reply actions  

who is the 4th WR in the rotation now?

Or do we even use a rotation now?

Will we see Barden, Moss, or Hagan more next weekend at Dallas?

by 732jerseyP on Sep 14, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions  

probably Moss

I’d say we’ll see more of Moss. Hagan might get on the field with the offense, but I think he is going to be mostly used on Special Teams. Barden could get activated while Nicks is down. I’d like to see the GMen use him deep in the Green Zone or short yardage. Do you want to double Barden or put 8 in the box?

I think a lot depends on his development. Learning the plays, making blocks, running good routes. It takes awhile to absorb everything and I’m sure the game seems fast to him now. It seemed that Eli had to call timeout because Manningham was lined up wrong. All of these young receivers are still learning…

by M. on Sep 14, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

The way Steve Smith played yesterday...

I’m not as worried about the WR’s as I was before. He really showed up, and based on how well Delhomme did yesterday, that guy in Carolina might be deemed “The Other” by seasons end (okay maybe not but it was still a great game by our SS)

"We'll show up tomorrow and do the same thing we try to do every day, Kick Pedroia's ass in cribbage and try and win a baseball game."

by tito (eight and oh) on Sep 14, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

It's not so much our Steve Smith is that good...

As it is that Delhomme might be that bad…

"We'll show up tomorrow and do the same thing we try to do every day, Kick Pedroia's ass in cribbage and try and win a baseball game."

by tito (eight and oh) on Sep 14, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh my God

I think Dell Home Mee is allergic to birds. First the Cards and now the Eggs. Can’t wait to see what he does against the Falcons if he is still the starter.

by njgiant on Sep 14, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now that's a theory...

I don’t know how they can bench him though…they just signed him to an extension with 20mill guaranteed, not Eli money…but still pretty hefty.

"We'll show up tomorrow and do the same thing we try to do every day, Kick Pedroia's ass in cribbage and try and win a baseball game."

by tito (eight and oh) on Sep 14, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's scary for the Cats

Someone has to notice that Jake is regressing. You just don’t play like that at home.

by njgiant on Sep 14, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can anyone imagine

If Eli would have had the day that Jake had yesterday. The only thing Eli did was pass for 69%, 250+ yards, a 93 rating, 1 td, 1int and a loss fumble. The pick was a bad pass to Smith that was tipped and the fumble should have been a facemask penalty. I’ll bet Carolina wishes they had Eli.

by njgiant on Sep 14, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

The funny thing is...

I bet if Delhomme had won that Super Bowl against the Pats he’d be put in the same category as Eli. A great competitor, 100% team player, spreads the ball around, and has an occasional off-day.

But since he didn’t, he doesn’t have the luxury of being defined as a winner, even though he led a great comeback and battled till the end in that game…I can definitely see why Carolina gave him that contract, and I for one think Delhomme’s such a gamer he’ll bounce back. Just two very, and I do mean very bad games have defined him of late.

"We'll show up tomorrow and do the same thing we try to do every day, Kick Pedroia's ass in cribbage and try and win a baseball game."

by tito (eight and oh) on Sep 14, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

but the scary thing is

they were at home and back to back (somewhat). He’s going to have to bounce back because his backup just went down for the year. Only a 3rd stringer behind him.

by njgiant on Sep 14, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

The picked up A.J. Feeley today, not a great QB but better than Matt Moore for sure. I’m surprised Jake is still the starter, even tho i have faith that he can turn it around and not play like he has the last couple games it seems that just about everyone down here just hates this guy with a passion. Winning will always shut folks up tho ofc.

by TearsofaClown on Sep 14, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think we even need a four reciever in rotation now. SS, MM and DH are all speed deamons and we do just fine tilm HN get back into the mix. Add anybody else only when we go four or five wide

Mama there goes that MAN

by Shks on Sep 14, 2009 2:38 PM EDT reply actions  

 don’t think we even need a four reciever in rotation now. SS, MM and DH are all speed deamons and we’ll do just fine till HN get back into the mix. Add anybody else only when we go four or five wide

Mama there goes that MAN

by Shks on Sep 14, 2009 2:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Good news, but...

this time off the field will retard his growth as a player. By the time he hits the field again, all the other defenses will be running at full bore, and he’ll still be trying to put what he’s learned into on-the-field production.

by rzor on Sep 14, 2009 2:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Great news

He looks to be the real deal.

Has anyone heard about Danny Ware? I think that was just a big a loss for us. Now we are down to two healthy backs and as much as I love Jacobs, he gets dings from running to hard.

Is Allen Patrick really worth bringing back from the squad? He really didn’t show much in the pre-season.

by EverBlue on Sep 14, 2009 2:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I dislocated my elbow...

my junior year in High School on a special teams play. Our Kicker’s father, who was a pediatrician, popped it back into place on the sideline while I waited for the EMT’s to arrive. I was in a sling a week and back starting after missing one game. Depending on the severity of Ware’s dislocation, I wouldn’t be surprised to see him in 2 weeks.

by Larry Soprano on Sep 14, 2009 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah I did too

It does depend on the severity..I did it years ago in my senior year, while making a crossbody tackle..I also dislocated the shoulder..My elbow has never been the same since then…but hopefully his is minor..mine was really bad…Fortunately, mine was on the right side, and I am left-handed, so even though it messed up (ended) my football career. No college was interested in a guy (receiver) who could run a 4.3 40 with one good arm.(that was the end of that), I have been able to function..Every now and then I still have to wear a brace on my right elbow..That is not a injury that goes away if it is severe..Let’s hope Ware’s is minor..

by Bobbiblue on Sep 15, 2009 5:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Roster moves

are coming. Boley is reinstated so a cut occurs.

RB Patrick will need to be activated and Ware kept
(assuming he is out 3-4 weeks not 6-12) so another occurs. GMen need three backs.

I see an OL (Koets?) and a LB (Wilkinson?) being let go. Moss will play more with Nicks injured.

Assuming that Reyes can snap so he is the back up center. It could be Whimper.

by MSP Giant on Sep 14, 2009 3:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Don't Forget Corner

I don’t know how wise it would be to carry only 3 corners for the Dallas game if Ross and Dockery are out again. You get an injury (or ejection) there during the game and now you are down to two. Santana Moss might have been purposely provoking Webster there to try to get him ejected. Wouldn’t surprise me to see Dallas try the same thing.

by Be Driven on Sep 14, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dockery should play

Ross? Who knows. But point well taken. DB depth is shallow.

But neither Hicks nor Ware will play for several weeks – waiting to hear on Ware – and 2 RBs is not possible so best case someone has to go to activate Patrick.

Boothe can play tackle – so they say – so maybe it is Whimper.

by MSP Giant on Sep 14, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

re: Santana Moss

He was doing nothing out of the ordinary.. he’s just an ass.

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by Hoyadestroya85 on Sep 14, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fred Robbins?

Did he suit up? Was he activated? Was he on the injured list? Did he set foot on the field?

by hopeforthefuture3 on Sep 14, 2009 4:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Roster

You’ve got to figure an LB is gone, which would probably suggest Wilk is done.

I’d guess one of the backup OL is gone too, probably Whimper. Koets has been doing the backup snapping, although Reyes can, he’s the top guard backup and the rook (Beatty) is probably first OT backup. Boothe plays on the goal line packages and can play both T and G, so he’s probably safe. That leaves Whimper odd man out.

Let’s hope Dockery gets back for Dallas, you’re right, we need the 4th CB for Dallas

by TNYFBG on Sep 14, 2009 4:54 PM EDT reply actions  

If I were Leger Douzable ...

I’d be wearing a disguise right about now …

by Shofner85 on Sep 14, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dallas Cowboys

If the Giants play against Dallas like they did against Washington, they will lose. Washington played like a mediocre team, and G-Men giving away golden opportunities and not capitalizing on trips to the Red Zone will cost them against Dallas. That having been said, let’s hope they ironed out some of the opening day kinks and kick the star out of Dallas! Side note (personal) to Kevin Gilbride: Kev, baby. Brandon Jacobs is not the go to guy in the Red Zone. Roll Eli out, hit Boss in the corner, have Mario leap for a few, even shoot it over to Steve Smith. Make the defense think! Right now, the only thing the defense is thinking is that Eli is handing it off to Jacobs. Pick a different color on your play chart, please!

by Tarkenton 2 Jones on Sep 14, 2009 5:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Loved the deep ball on 2nd and 1

always a great call and shades of the 60s Packers who used to do it on 3rd down. what i would love to see in the red zone, certainly inside the ten, is a play we’ve seen countless times for countless years from countless teams – the play action fake, delay into the end zone by the tight end, almost always uncovered. yes, countless times, for countless years, from countless teams, except ours!!!

by nybaseballgiants on Sep 14, 2009 5:40 PM EDT reply actions  

i agree

we need to employ the play action more often & freeze those ’backers

by NYer in a strange land on Sep 14, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

2-4 weeks each would be managable, but

more could be problematic – esp Ware.

Hope I am wrong but this will not be it folks. JR has to manage the roster expecting there may be more injuries. But OL and safety notwithstanding he has a deep team.

Can TT play safety?
Can Reyes snap?

by MSP Giant on Sep 14, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

how you get to the 1....

and not use Boss one time. What the hell?

by EverBlue on Sep 14, 2009 7:45 PM EDT reply actions  

M Evans

has been cut by Tampa – will be interesting to see if the Giants pick him up and put him on the pratice squad.

If Ware and Nicks only miss 2 to 4 weeks I will take that as good luck – after all the injuries could have been worse.and if you are going to have injuries you hope they are minor ones.

by G Fan in England on Sep 15, 2009 3:50 AM EDT reply actions  

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