New York Giants training camp: Thursday evening practice report
Apparently, 'Mr. August' is not a night owl. Sinorice Moss had an excellent morning practice, and earned the 'Mr. August' moniker from a media member along the sideline (no, I didn't catch who). Tonight, though, was a bad evening for Moss.
The diminutive third-year wide receiver dropped three passes during the first evening workout of the 2009 training camp, including two on successive plays.
Moss' bad night was topped only by the continued putrid work of Adam Koets, as he tries to figure out how to act like a backup center. Rather than act like a guy ready to back up Shaun O'Hara, Koets is acting more like a guy trying to snap his way out of the league. He bounced, or more accurately, dribbled two shotgun snaps and messed up a regular exchange with David Carr.
Even worse for Koets, these came on three successive plays. That makes roughly a dozen messed-up snaps involving Koets in six practices.
Here are some other notable happenings from Thursday evening.
- This was the first practice in full pads. It led to the first near fight of camp, too, as rookie Clint Sintim and undrafted free agent running back Dwayne Wright did a little pushing and shoving.
- Being in full pads also led to the best on-field trash-talking exchange I have heard thus far. During punt return drills, Domenik Hixon bobbled a Jeff Feagles' punt, and it led to the following exchange with Chase Blackburn:
Blackburn: 'C'mon Hix .... we aren't gonna hit you yet."
Hixon: "You ain't gonna hit me anyway, Chase."
Just a little friendly banter.
- ADDED VALUE? Apparently, $97 million will still buy you a handful of wounded ducks along with your helping of Super Bowl MVP quarterback. That setup is meant to get to the point that Eli Manning's first pass Thursday night during 11-on-11 drills was a horrible wobbler over the head of Kevin Boss that Michael Johnson easily intercepted. Other than that, Manning threw the ball well.
- Lawrence Tynes made 6-of-8 kicks, missing from 40 and about 42 yards. He is now 14-of-16 in camp. So, in addition to running pass routes he is actually kicking pretty well in camp thus far.
- WATCHFUL EYES: According to the Giants, today’s attendance was 3,650 (1,660 in the morning, 1,990 in the evening. That increases the camp total to 8,755, the second-highest three-day total in the Giants 14 years at the University at Albany. The three-day record of 10,430 was set last year.
- NOTE: Check the 'Transcripts' page for interviews with Coughlin and several players.
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Nice to see Sintim
Sounds like he is playing at full speed. Did it look like he was taking it easy, or still bothered by the hurt he got in the spring? I expect him to contribute this year.
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by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 6, 2009 10:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How's Boss doing?
IMO he’ll lead our team in TD catches…but more importantly i’m looking for him to increase his receptions & yards and become more of a fixture in the passing game. i know that’s what HIS goal is, especially on 3rd down…but what are YOU seeing on your end???
thanks, and keep up the good work.
by andiamo708 on Aug 6, 2009 11:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Boss had a nice night
I forgot to mention that he made a spectacular one-hand leaping catch of a high throw from Rhett Bomar. Caught a few other balls, as well.
by Ed Valentine on Aug 7, 2009 7:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Woodson is getting praise from some quarters
Is he ahead of Bomar?
by brisulph on Aug 7, 2009 7:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Woodson v. Bomar
Woodson has worked as the third QB and Bomar fourth in terms of order throughout the first four days. Woodson threw the ball better last night than he has, but I didn’t see anything spectacular. Bomar was outstanding the first couple of days. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
by Ed Valentine on Aug 7, 2009 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How much longer
does Koets get a shot until they just give it to Boothe? Sounds like he can do the job, so give it to him.
by potroast on Aug 7, 2009 9:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Boothe
Has had some adventures of his own snapping. He screwed up an exchange last night, too. I continue to believe that the Giants will look for a veteran backup lineman with significant experience at center once teams start making cuts later in training camp.
by Ed Valentine on Aug 7, 2009 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would love to have a conversation with an NFL center. Snapping the ball just seems like such a simple thing to most of us, I don’t understand how some can be so bad at it.
Remember the backup center for the Cowboys in the playoffs against the Giants who kept having trouble snapping to Romo? Helped our pass rush tremendously
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Aug 7, 2009 9:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
gurode is his name….if i didn’t know any better I would have though him and Crayton were actually playing for the Giants that Sunday…thanks fellas!
by andiamo708 on Aug 7, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was a center back in the day...
Not as easy as it looks, and I’m not even talking about shotgun, FG’s or punts. The center-QB exchange needs to be just right.
A quick and very simple explanation from my foggy memory. As soon as the snap is called for (on whatever “hut” is predetermined), the ball needs to get to the QB’s hands in milliseconds, otherwise you’re giving the defense extra closeup time with the ball and throwing the rest of your offense off-kilter. The bill needs to hit the QB’s hand just right, laces landing in a comfort zone for the QB so that they can maneuver it how they like. Immediately after the (hopefully clean) exchange, you have to engage a large person in front of you. If its a run play, you’re most likely going full speed ahead either at a DT, or pushing through to take out a LB. This needs to be done with the expectation that somebody (most likely a DT) will be aiming to knock you on your keister, because the center is conceivably concentrating the least on the impending hit. If it’s a pass play, you have to set for the incoming rushers and establish the pocket. This sometimes requires taking a step back, hence QB’s getting their foot stepped on every now and then.
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by mwilli on Aug 7, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It might look easy
but I don’t know if I could think straight if I had to point out coverages, maintain the snap count and make sure the ball is snapped quick all while staring at one or even 2 large 300 lb men reading to beat the crap out of me
I think there’s a reason that the best centers, guys like Matt Birk, are usually the smartest guys on the field. There’s a lot you need to do as the center.
by FreeBradshaw on Aug 7, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
it’s the snap, plus trying to get off the ball w/out getting killed by a defensive tackle that makes it tougher. But, it ain’t brain surgery.
by Ed Valentine on Aug 7, 2009 10:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes..
It is a tough position..and a leadership position just like a catcher in baseball, they have to have the smarts to signal blocking schemes, etc.. But the physical exchange is not rocket science..I hope somebody steps up..still sounds like one of our weak links finding a solid back-up…Bob
by Bobbiblue on Aug 7, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder why
Madden never puts dropped snaps into the game. Madden is full of random fumbles, INT’s and guys breaking tackles for 88 yard slant patterns. Fumbled snaps happen multiple times every year, but they have never been a part of Madden.
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by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 7, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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