New York Giants Training Camp: Tuesday morning practice report

by Ed Valentine on Aug 4, 2009 11:50 AM EDT in News Comment 29 comments

Here is your morning practice report from Day 2 of New York Giants training camp at UAlbany. It's a quick one. I'm starving, and we are all waiting on Antonio Pierce.

This was a pretty bad morning for the Giants offensively.

You may never see this again, but Steve Smith dropped passes from Eli Manning on consecutive plays. One was a short in. The second was a deep ball where Smith beat Kevin Dockery by several steps, but could not handle a perfect throw from Eli. The good news is Smith has shown in the first two days he can definitely get deep.
David Carr had a tough day. He had a ball intercepted by Terrell Thomas, and threw a couple of other errant balls. He did get lucky once, though, in a red zone drill. Travonti Johnson tiipped a pass for Sinorice Moss, but the ball bounced right to Moss for a score. Johnson got lots of praise and attention from the coaching staff this morning.
Thomas had a better morning, with the pick and a couple of other nice plays. Monday was tough for the second-year cornerback.
With Adam Koets struggling to get the exchange to the quarterback right, Kevin Boothe took some snaps at center today.
Rhett Bomar impressed again. He threw a brilliant out to Derek Hagan, who could not hang on along the sideline. Didn't matter to me, it was a great throw.
Darcy Johnson dropped a ball for the second day in a row, and might have some competition for a roster spot from Lee Vickers.
The Giants ran a reverse to Moss with Eli as the lead blocker this morning. Yikes! I don't want to see Eli leading the way on a play during camp -- or maybe ever.
Coughlin hinted that the Giants will go full pads on Thursday for the first time, though that is not definite.

Here is Coughlin talking about the offensive struggles.

"It's not mid-season form ... it's early, but I'm not very patient. I'd like to see some progress."

NOTE: The Washington Post football blog, 'The League,' asked me to contribute some thoughts on Plaxico Burress this mroning. I have done so here

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I don’t know what’s uglier, Eli leading out the break on a reverse or the thought of Eli taking snaps from Kevin Boothe.

by FreeBradshaw on Aug 4, 2009 11:58 AM EDT reply actions

Well

would you want to put YOUR hands under there?

by Ed Valentine on Aug 4, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions

I'm honestly surprised

that he could find the ball under there :)

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by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 4, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions

LOL!!

That might be the comment of the day.

by Ed Valentine on Aug 4, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions

Oh yea...

Ed, what goes on with Hixon? I haven’t read a peep on what how he’s doing so far. I guess since he aint on today’s $hit list that means he’s doing OK?

by FreeBradshaw on Aug 4, 2009 11:59 AM EDT reply actions

Hixon has been fine

Other guys have been more spectacular, but he’s done well.

by Ed Valentine on Aug 4, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions

I am pleased about Moss

Any Barden news for this morning (good or bad)?

by brisulph on Aug 4, 2009 12:00 PM EDT reply actions

Quiet morning for Ramses

My only news is I requested an interview w/him, and he apparently didn’t want to talk.

by Ed Valentine on Aug 4, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Hey Ed, I have a few questions for you regarding practices so far:
-How would you say Eli performed this morning? I heard he had two outstanding throws to Hixon, but both were outstanding catches.
-I’ve been reading about the secondary’s dominance so far in camp (7 Interceptions, 5 dropped interceptions). How would you evaluate their dominance? Would you consider it a good job by them, or bad decision-making by the QBs?
-Did Coughlin have any information regarding the injuries to Tuck and Seubert, both of whom were out today and not residing on any injury list by the Giants?
-Has any undrafted rookie impressed you so far during camp? Garafolo has been very impressed by the play of DE Tommie Hill so far.

by njny on Aug 4, 2009 12:20 PM EDT reply actions

Here you go

1. Eli was pretty sharp this morning. Sharp throws all morning.
2. Hard to tell. Terrell Thomas struggled yesterday, but not today. I will say this, though, I’ve seen Moss and Smith both run right by Kevin Dockery. BTW, watch the name Travonti Johnson.
3. Nothing. Tuck is not hurt. They just have him on a once a day practice schedule for now. I did for get to mention that Osi looked good this morning. On one sweep away from him he chase Ahmad Bradshaw 30 yards down the field on the dead run, which tells you he is feeling frisky.
4. Undrafted guys. Let’s see. Maurice Evans schooled Guy Whimper on a pass rush this morning and would have killed David Carr if it was live action. Sha’reef Nelson is also a guy to watch for. Hill batted down a pass from Andre Woodson this morning, but my guess is that will be his one and only camp highlight.

by Ed Valentine on Aug 4, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions

Great stuff Ed

Great job with these updates. Really enjoy reading them.

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by NewYorkGiants24.7 on Aug 4, 2009 12:47 PM EDT reply actions

+1

It’s so great to get this level of coverage so early

You play to win the game!

by Simms-McConkey on Aug 4, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions

It's funny

You watch so much, and write down so much, then when you sit down to write the report you can’t remember half of it. I love the specific questions from you guys, because they always remind me of something I wanted to include in the report but didn’t.

by Ed Valentine on Aug 4, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions

twitter that!

actually I dont have twitter (id never get any work done) but I hear thats the type of thing its for

by ryanwk628 on Aug 4, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions

Twitter

Unfortunately, the one thing I don’t have is a cell phone with Internet access, or a Blackberry or something like that. Vacchiano tweets all the time and gets endless abuse for it, too. I would if I had the technology, but I don’t have it.

by Ed Valentine on Aug 4, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions

MG & Ralph V

are pretty much neck & neck in that competition. My twitter account has been buried with their stuff the last 2 days. For those of you not on twitter, just read their reports at the end of each practice because it has all that stuff in there.

by potroast on Aug 4, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions

Ed's always on point I see.

I like it.

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by iLL on Aug 4, 2009 12:59 PM EDT reply actions

not only a good run down...

but you actually answer our questions as well. LOL.

in regards to the play by the secondary….I’ve been saying all along that during OTA’s Corey Webster didn’t even participate and Ross was very limited…so it’s not exactly like our WR’s were matched up against our #1 secondary.

It’s a totally different animal when you have to match up against Corey and than have to deal with the help from the safeties as well. Certainly a lot tougher than going up against guy’s named Barksdale (who’s not even on the team any more).

by andiamo708 on Aug 4, 2009 1:08 PM EDT reply actions

I try

I still think the funniest site in camp is watching Dockery, who is probably the smallest corner, run down the field with Barden. It just doesn’t look right.

by Ed Valentine on Aug 4, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions

I’m hoping to see a lot of this during the season.

by njgiant on Aug 4, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions

T. Thomas

is bound to have some ups and downs…he’s still very young, nothing to worry about there….

but all this news about Dockery getting beat over and over kinda concerns me…If he continues to get beat and Thomas can get more consistent we could see Thomas winning that #3 CB spot.

by andiamo708 on Aug 4, 2009 1:17 PM EDT reply actions

Dockery

has had several gusy get behind him. We’ll see how it plays out.

by Ed Valentine on Aug 4, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions

Toomer

has signed with the Chiefs.

by potroast on Aug 4, 2009 2:17 PM EDT reply actions

just saw on the all Farve network (aka ESPN).

he should do well there.

by FreeBradshaw on Aug 4, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions

good for toom...

what can I say…i wish him well and I think he will contribute this year for them.

by andiamo708 on Aug 4, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions

Hopefully

He gets a lot of catches from their new QB.

It would save the Giants Defence a lot of time if QBs just stayed down!

by ChuckyofNorris on Aug 5, 2009 3:06 AM EDT up reply actions

I have a feeling

that if O’Hara got hurt this season there would be some serious reshuffling along the offensive line. Seubert would probably move to center and Boothe would play left Guard. OR Seubert would play center, Diehl would move to LG and Beatty would have to play left tackle.. Thoughts?

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by Hoyadestroya85 on Aug 4, 2009 5:29 PM EDT reply actions

that's a good point....

from the sounds of it this kid Koets is having serious trouble…

kinda makes me scratch my head about letting Ruegamar go. I mean the guy was a solid back up and had “big game” experience…didn’t he start in place of O’hara when O’hara was injured at the end of ’07?
I think he started the playoff game down in TB too.

I don’t know, maybe the giants had some inside info on that situation….but I’m saying…if this kid Koets can’t get the ball to the QB when the QB is under center what’s gonna happen in shotgun formation?

Is it too late to get Reugamar back?

by andiamo708 on Aug 4, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions

Center

If O’Hara gets hurt the Giants are in deep doo-doo. Unless they bring in an experienced center before the season starts, which would not surprise me at all.

by Ed Valentine on Aug 4, 2009 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions