BREAKING NFL NEWS: Plaxico Burress accepts plea deal, will spend 2 years in jail
by Jim Schmiedeberg on Aug 20, 2009 10:35 AM EDT
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PrintAccording to the New York Daily News, Plaxico Burress has accepted a plea deal, and will spend two years in jail.
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Ex-Super Bowl hero Plaxico Burress accepted a plea bargain Thursday that will land the talented but troubled wide receiver behind bars for two years.
The agreement with the Manhattan district attorney came nine months after Burress, 31, shot himself through the thigh with an illegal .40-caliber Glock inside a crowded nightclub.
I am stunned. I never in a million years expected him to do anywhere near this much jail time.
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WOW
I too am shocked. I expected a slap on the wrist w/ big fines, some probation & maybe a little community service. Definitely did not see him getting 2 yrs in jail.
Talk about double punishment for being an idiot:
1) Getting shot (by yourself)
2) Doing 2 yrs in jail for shooting yourself
by PuckCentral.net on Aug 20, 2009 10:37 AM EDT reply actions
WOW!
1st, Farve DOES comeback!
2nd Plax DOES go to jail
3rd Tom Brady DOES practics
4th Vick buys a dog.
YAY!
Do what Jerry Hairston do
and I still say this is a waste of a jail cell and a waste of time.
we’re locking up a guy, for 2 years, who shot himself.\
This is a pretty dumb act ( the shooting himself and shooting down his career too after refusing pleas that would have made his jail sentence almost done by now….), but it just seems senseless to lock the guy up (for just about the same length as the guy that oversaw the torturing and killing of hundereds of dogs).
Do what Jerry Hairston do
by FreeBradshaw on Aug 20, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
It's more about him having the gun in the first place...
Than what he actually shot with it.
You can bet if that gun was registered and he shot himself, he’s probably be in a camp somewhere right now gearing up for the season.
"We'll show up tomorrow and do the same thing we try to do every day, Kick Pedroia's ass in cribbage and try and win a baseball game."
by tito (eight and oh) on Aug 20, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
How smart do the Giants look now?
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Aug 20, 2009 10:42 AM EDT reply actions
I'll say it again
the day I walked into my parents’ living room and my wife said “Burress just got arrested for an illegal gun and he shit himself in the leg”
The first words out of my mouth were “He’ll never play another game in a Giants uniform.”
Anyway, send Tony Dungy his prison address and Tony can start buying him honey buns from the commissary. In 2011 he’ll be in a green uniform.
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Aug 20, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Very smart
I’m shoched that the judicial system was harder on Plax than the commish. I thought his millions would keep him out.
Let me be the first to say
he should have just killed a man driving drunk, or tortured and killed dogs while running and interstate crime ring. WTF?? No justice. TEAM PLAX!
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Aug 20, 2009 10:43 AM EDT reply actions
I think
if he’d worked out a plea at an earlier stage he might have gotten less time.
But the more this lingered and he fought the system, the more the system wanted to make an example of him.
I'm too busy to fully register my outrage
But let me just say that it’s pretty warped that someone can get two years in prison just for carrying a gun, something that’s perfectly legal in many (if not most) other places in this country. The only person Burress hurt was himself – now he’s got to do two years with actual, dangerous criminals? It’s only because politicians and prosecutors don’t like guns. This is one time when celebrity worked against a criminal suspect. If he’s been Plaxico Smith, the DA wouldn’t have been nearly as anxious to put him away, and would have been willing to cut a deal that included little or no jail time.
by long time listener on Aug 20, 2009 10:59 AM EDT reply actions
+1
"We'll show up tomorrow and do the same thing we try to do every day, Kick Pedroia's ass in cribbage and try and win a baseball game."
by tito (eight and oh) on Aug 20, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know if I'm outraged or not
Plax, not the politicians and prosecutors, but himself in that position. Dude should have been home with his wife and kids, not in a club with AP and 44 with a loaded weapon “loosely” tucked in his jogging pants. I know the Steve Smith incident may have been in the back of his head but the law is the law. He broke New York’s law. Would have never happend if he were at home watching Law and Order.
oh, I agree that Plax was stupid
First, if he was going someplace where he thought he might need a gun, he should have just stayed home. Second, even if the law is stupid, he should have known the law and left his gun at home. Third, he should have properly secured the gun – none of his would have happened if the gun hadn’t slipped. Still, the punishment doesn’t fit the crime.
by long time listener on Aug 20, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't see anything to be outraged about
Plax discharged a firearm in a crowded night club. Fortunately he only injured himself, but his conduct was reckless and put others at risk. I don’t see two years as an outrageous punishment at all. It’s only a little more than half of what he might have gotten. I don’t think the law recognizes the stupid but lucky exception.
by Tucker Fredrickson on Aug 20, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
"stupid but lucky" exception
Actually, the law recognizes that to a great extent. If you’re driving drunk down an empty road, you’re only going to get a slap on the wrist – license suspension, fine, probably alcohol counseling, but no jail time. If you’re doing the same thing and a pack of nuns happen to be crossing the street and you plow into them, you’re looking at 10 years, minimum. Similarly, if you discharge a gun and shoot only yourself, you’re facing reckless endangerment and possession charges. If that bullet had killed someone else, that’s manslaughter and, probably, 7-10 years minimum.
The law treats reckless people who get lucky with their recklessness differently all the time. The only thing different here is that it was a celebrity carrying a gun in a city where the mayor and DA hate guns.
by long time listener on Aug 20, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
correction
if you run down a pack of nuns and you pay off their families, you get 30 days jail time and house arrest…
Good point
So Plax did take advantage of the stupid but lucky exception. That’s why there’s nothing outrageous about his sentence. I also don’t think there’s anything unreasonable about enforcing laws to keep idiots like Burress from carrying weapons in places where an accidental discharge could prove fatal. You can’t carry a gun on a plane either. NY is very tough on this issue, that’s why Burress’s celebrity didn’t buy him a free pass. It’s not that NY persecuted him for being a celebrity. Instead it treated him like anybody else.
by Tucker Fredrickson on Aug 20, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Amen to that
The normal man’s holster selections:
http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/opticsplanet/blackhawk-holster-fit-chart.pdf
Plaxico’s selection:
http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/hometeams_2063_119602342
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Aug 20, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Outrage? Whatever.
New York City voters elected people who put these laws into place. The law is the law.
And I assure you, Plax is not being made an example of. This is what happens to people who get caught with unlicensed guns in New York City.
Routinely.
I don’t know where you live, but this city is better off without people bringing glocks into nightclubs. That’s why the laws exist.
by New York Sports Jerk on Aug 20, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I live in NYC. We may be better off with a law barring people from bringing guns to nightclubs. That doesn’t mean we should automatically throw people who violate that law into prison for two years. And just because people voted for it doesn’t make it a good law.
by long time listener on Aug 20, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
So what's the deterrent then?
How would you punish people who endanger the lives of people around them with their own irresponsibility.
A slap on the wrist doesn’t deter people from committing crimes.
Maybe we should go back to the Dinkins days, the city was a much better place then, right?
by New York Sports Jerk on Aug 20, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Simple possession of a firearm is a minor crime. A first offense doesn’t need to result in two years in jail. Probation, or a very short sentence, as well as revocation of any gun license and other collateral consequences, should suffice. I don’t think that would take us back to the Dinkins days – crime is down from those days because of more aggressive policing (among other things), not because Bloomberg is overzealously anti-gun.
by long time listener on Aug 20, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
"Oh, it's okay, just don't do it again."
That’s what probation is. Worthless.
Revocation of his gun license wouldn’t have worked, because he didn’t one.
And a simple way to avoid jail is to avoid breaking the law. He didn’t need a gun to sit in the VIP room of a midtown club. He was reckless and dangerous and could have killed somebody.
I’m all for being able to protect your home with a firearm, and a big advocate of 2nd amendment rights, but Plax wasn’t protecting his home, he was endangering the lives of everyone around him in a public place.
by New York Sports Jerk on Aug 20, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
He was also doing something that was perfectly legal in most places in this country. Which is why I don’t think two years is a just sentence.
by long time listener on Aug 20, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
"We'll show up tomorrow and do the same thing we try to do every day, Kick Pedroia's ass in cribbage and try and win a baseball game."
by tito (eight and oh) on Aug 20, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah..look at OJ
He won the Heisman..had a great career, and a few goofy movies, then stabbed two people to death..Plax should have worn small gloves that night..“If the glove don’t fit..I was the only one hit”
let's not act like Plax is a saint
just cuz he shot himself doesn’t mean something worse could have happened. apparently the bullet almost hit a bouncer. obviously he did alot for the Giants, but he’s always felt that he was above the rest of the team and also above the law. 2 years may be a little steep, but his outlaw mentality had to backfire eventually…no pun intended
The law in NY is the law in NY.
What happened to Vick and Stallworth is apples to oranges. Burress just won the SB and earned himself a fat new deal—he had everything going for him. He also made the terrible decision to play gangsta in da clurrrb. This decision may not seem “fair,” but lots of things in life are not fair. This was completely avoidable.
by Johnny Switchblade: Adventure Punk on Aug 20, 2009 11:23 AM EDT reply actions
I agree 100%
You can’t compare the different situations. If Vick or Stallworth had been tried in NYC whose to say what their sentences would have been.
Heck if any of them had been tried in California they probably would never have served any time at all.
Fair
Plax played injured during the 2007 season and helped the Giants win a Super Bowl. Gutsy.
He brought a loaded gun with no safety into a crowded club serving alcohol. Stupid. He could have killed someone by accident.
Plax never grasped the reality of the trouble he was in – expected to escape some how. Out of touch.
Plax did this to himself. He is not special. This is really sad, but fair. He has no one to blame but himself.
This makes me really sad.
Partly because he made a serious error in judgement in the first place, but mostly because he egregiously compounded it by not taking the deal he had on the table last spring (or whenever that was) which would have enabled him to serve his time over the summer, come out and rejoin the Giants. What terrible fking advice he got – or maybe what a terrible mistake not listening to better advice, if he got it.
"We were very much aware of that. There was a lot of phone call-type things going on in the room." -- Tom Coughlin
As I remember it,
Reese was ready to hold up his end of the deal that Plax had already signed. I forget the exact terms of the extension Plax signed but Reese was ready to honor up until the point where Plax refused the plea bargain.
"We were very much aware of that. There was a lot of phone call-type things going on in the room." -- Tom Coughlin
was there ever really a deal...
on the table that would have allowed him to serve only 3 months? I can’t imagine that if there were, he would have been so dumb as to turn it down. Then again this is Plax we’re talking about.
And TWO years means they really put the last nail in the coffin of his career.
I understand it’s the law and that he put himself in the position, it just seems a terrible waste – of his talents, of his ability to provide for his family, of his dignity (I’m sure bankruptcy’s looming for him too)
I just hope that this is Exhibit A at the next rookie symposium so that the next wanna-be heat-packing tough guy can understand how easily this can ruin your entire life, and he can trun himself into a better person from looking at the ruins of Plax’s career. Then maybe some good can come of this
Coughlin..
Never wanted him. Acorsi..told Coughlin that if he couldn’t deal with a problem player, he shouldn’t be a coach..that is the only reason he played on the team. He pretty much sucked mostly. I do think he got a raw deal though.
Plax sucked?
last year I guess so, but Id still rather him on the team.
Do what Jerry Hairston do
by FreeBradshaw on Aug 22, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if Plax had actually injured himself
like maybe he Adrian Beltre’d himself, maybe they just let him sit in his own misery in home confinement while he recovers?
Do what Jerry Hairston do
What do you mean "stunned"???
The required minimum sentence for Plax’s crime is longer than what he’ll serve.
I know someone with the DA’s office, believe me, they do NOT fuck around. This was always going to happen, Plax and his lawyer just didn’t know it.
by New York Sports Jerk on Aug 20, 2009 12:31 PM EDT reply actions
TWO YEARS!
Ridiculous.. I’m not defending what he did, but two years in prison is absolutely ridiculous. At least the Giants don’t have to pay that waste of space for the next few years.
President of the Ramses Barden Fan Club
by Hoyadestroya85 on Aug 20, 2009 12:36 PM EDT reply actions
really?
is it that ridiculous for someone to serve time for bringing an unlicensed weapon into a crowded club serving alcohol. not to mention he accidentally fired it. would it be better for new york to send the message that bringing weapons into clubs is just a slap on the wrist? so if you really think about it, it’s not so “ridiculous”
Sad..
..but he should have been home with his wife and kids..I think the law up there is way too harsh, though..He was stupid, but so is that old fart prosecutor..that sentence sucks. What is the murder rate stats in NYC these days?..Probably up..What a gun law..and when a guy runs over a man and kills him he gets 30 days?..Gime a break
Your gripe is with Florida law...
…not NYC law.
I don’t care what Stallworth got in his DUI manslaughter case, it’s not relevant.
And the murder rate in NYC has been on a pretty steady decline for the last 15 years.
by New York Sports Jerk on Aug 20, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Well you should..
I was born and raised in NY..I was transferred to N.C. after 37 years, Now I am in South Florida for the past four years..Laws need to be consistent..I believe when you run over and kill a man drunk it is far worse than shooting your own ass..Hell out in Arizona last week people were walking outside the presidents forum with guns..and I don’t believe NYC crime rate has declined at all. He got a bad deal.
Well you don't live here now, so your opinion is irrelevant...
…I’m fine with local governments making laws that directly affect local residents. It’s not my fault that people in Florida are apparently fine with drunken vehicular manslaughter. That’s Florida’s problem, not mine.
As for your incorrect claim about NYC’s crime stats, I’m not going to do your research for you, but the information is all out there. You clearly have internet access, do a little research why don’t ya?
by New York Sports Jerk on Aug 20, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I have deep roots in N.Y.
I have family there and was born and raised there..Don’t try to feed me this shit about me being irrevelent because I now live and work in Florida, rookie. The laws in this country are inconsistent..and I read the Daily News everyday and I know my crime stats..They are no less than they were before..Maybe YOU should do some research…you have a perfect ID by the way..I love the “Jerk” on the tail end of your handle.
Your roots...
…couldn’t concern me any less.
The laws in the country are inconsistent because this country was founded on the belief that local jurisdictions could make laws that directly affect their citizenry while still being a part of the country as a whole.
I am a big proponent of local government over a bloated Federal body.
If the people of Florida don’t care about people getting drunk and killing people on the roads, good for them.
As for the NYC crime, instead of your anecdotal evidence, presumably based on reading the police blotter in the Daily News, here’s an article that actually has some stats:
And here’s the figures to back it up:
http://www.disastercenter.com/newyork/crime/9004.htm
You lose.
by New York Sports Jerk on Aug 20, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry Jerk..
Your the loser..and don’t question my loyalty to the state of New York. I was born and raised, lived in New York for 37 years..It wasn’t NYC it was upstate (Fishkill)..stick your URLs up your ass. You obviously don’t know it from a hole in the ground.
Sure I know Fishkill...
…I just don’t happen to care about it.
It is also totally irrelevant when talking about a weapons charge in New York City. Maybe if Plax had shot himself at Handshakes Bar & Grill in Hopewell Junction, it would be, but he didn’t, so it’s not.
And by the way, you said, and I quote, “I don’t believe NYC crime rate has declined at all.”
Contained in the URLs provided is proof that it has, significantly so. In other words, you are wrong.
For the record, I never questioned your New York loyalty. I questioned your intelligence, and you’ve been doing an amazing job at proving that I was correct in doing so.
Anything else you want to talk about and make yourself look foolish over? I’ve got no plans tonight with my GF out of town and the Yankees with a night off, so I’d be happy to embarrass you some more.
by New York Sports Jerk on Aug 20, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
You cannot possibly embarass a man like me with superior intelligence and
..common sense..what do you do for a living son?
You'll also be happy to know...
…that violent crime in Fishkill was down over 50% between 2001-2005.
It went from 20 all the way down to 9.
by New York Sports Jerk on Aug 20, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
No self-respecting "city slicker"...
…would ever be caught dead in a hick town like Fishkill.
by New York Sports Jerk on Aug 20, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I've witnessed the "city slicker act"..I've witnessed Jet fan hitting Giant fan
and pulling my Dad away just in time.so he didn’t get hit in the crossfire. You city slickers suck..they took over Fishkill and Hopewell Junction and Poughkeepsie..looking for a cheap ride to that dump, NYC..I actually had to defend myself at a game..when I was in line to use the men’s room..Some scumbag broke the line so I tapped him on the shoulder and suggested he get in line. He grabbed me by the neck, so I kicked him in the balls and then proceeded with a left uppercut to his chin..he pissed, relieved himself..didn’t need a urinal..and then security after learning what transpired threw his ass out
a lot of people look down on ball kicking
but from my standpoint it’s perfectly legit. Hey guys, a little unity, eh?
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Aug 21, 2009 7:25 AM EDT up reply actions
An old guy in Brooklyn (I think Brooklyn)..
Shot and killed two and wounded two more this past week..It was a shotgun he used to defend his employees from being pistol whipped and robbed..He owns a restaurant supply business. It’s the same all over the country..So much for NYC’s gun laws..Read up on the real news and then come back and tell me that a guy who almost shot his own balls off because he was stupid enough to pack a gun for whatever reason (his own protection?..lol) deserves two years in jail.,,and don’t feed me that crap about local vs. federal shit..If you think it is okay for laws to be inconsistent from state to state then you are an idiot..The federal government has nothing to do with what the state Governor conventions come to agreement on regarding the law on DUI and Guns, etc…and in Florida just so you know if you commit habitual crimes you go to the big house for life. If you kill someone you will get killed back. Florida’s DUI laws are no different than any other state in the union..Somehow Stallworth got off with money and thirty days. How can you possibly proclaim that.. that it is less worse than Plaxico almost shooting his own balls off?
..and wind up with two years? Stallworth gets 30 days for killing a man drunk?..Your a fool, obviously Jerk
I agree that Stallworth deserved a longer sentence
…but that has nothing to do with this particular case. It’s totally irrelevant. Has no meaning. Apples to oranges.
The gun law in NYC is what it is. Plax broke it.
I also have no problem with a store-owner or homeowner defending HIMSELF and HIS PROPERTY with a weapon. None whatsoever. What Plax was doing was not for protection, and endangered the lives of people in a public place.
There is a major difference, and based on your posts I can only assume that you’re too obtuse or willfully ignorant to understand it.
by New York Sports Jerk on Aug 20, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I have nothing further to say here..
You are a Giants fan and I am also..You have your opinions and I have mine I am 53 years old now and can’t waste my time arguing with anyone. I want to root for my team. The laws state to state are what they are. You and I are two peons where making laws are concerned and whether these laws are fair across the board..the country..is out of our hands…Bottom line is you are a Giants Fan and so am I.. always have been and always will be..so is my entire family..When Paula Zahn and Harry interviewed my brother during desert storm his first question was how the Giants did against Buffalo. Then he answered their questions about what a F-117 fighter which he piloted (call sign: “01”) is capable of doing..Peace Jerk
Hey, both of you
You guys are relatively new here. This back and forth between the two of you is the kind of useless crap that doesn’t help anyone here, or help the Web site. You want to have this conversation, do it on ESPN. Or SJ’s blog. Anywhere but here. I think ‘blue’ has tried to call a peace treaty, but let’s remember. We are all here because we are Giants fans. Cool the name-calling and agree to disagree.
by Ed Valentine on Aug 20, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Ed, I realize what you're trying to do...
…and I know why you’re trying to do it, but it’s just a discussion. I’m certainly not going to let it get out of hand.
I live in New York City, I don’t need someone from Fishkill who now lives in South Florida telling me why the laws in the city I call home are unfair. I go to bars in this city, I don’t need some jackass with a glock in there with me.
I addressed his points directly, factually. When he started calling me rookie and telling me to stick my facts up my ass, I responded in kind.
I’ll let it go because it doesn’t matter that much to me and because he clearly has issues. He was wrong, I told him he was wrong, and he responded with insults. Go back and tell me that’s not true.
by New York Sports Jerk on Aug 20, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Ed..
I apologize to you and any fan out here that I may have of offended, if you read my last comment to that kid, I said “Peace”..but I am not going to let some young arrogant punk insult me. The majority of the fans on this site, the majority of the Giants players, and the ownership, the coaches and ex-teamates in Pittsburgh agree with my opinion that the punishment was too harsh.
I'm letting it go...
…but for the millionth time, defending your home or store is different than carrying a loaded weapon into a bar.
I do appreciate being called “young” though, having just celebrated my 30th birthday I was feeling a little long in the tooth.
So, thanks old-timer. Much appreciated.
by New York Sports Jerk on Aug 21, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Like I said..
Peace..and you ARE young..My oldest Son is thirty..and Happy belated Birthday!..and I agree with this reply..He should not have done what he did…Your far far away from being “Long in the tooth”!! Like my Dad always said: “Be true to your teeth or they’ll be false to you!”..lol
I hate it...
when people younger than me refer to themselves as old.
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Aug 21, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
this guy bothered read the law
and had a shotgun, which doesn’t have to be licensed. I’m not a fan of the Sports Jerk tone, but he’s spot on this issue.
I come at this issue from a different perspective. I’m an African-American male and we’re become an endangered species in big part all the gun play. These laws are meant to save people from getting killed, the public here supports them, and Plax broke them and had to pay a heavy price. Maybe he should take his gun in the club act to South Beach where they’d wrist slap him.
A shotgun is a "Gun"
and thank God that man had a shotgun to defend his employees..I am well aware that a shotgun does not require a license, just needs to be registered. The pistol used to beat the employee was unlicensed yet the crooks had them. Burress is not a crook, he just did something stupid to himself.
Thanks.
Something tells me that guy would be singing a different tune if Plax showed up at his backwoods tavern in the Everglades with a glock.
by New York Sports Jerk on Aug 21, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL..
We live on the beach..He’d have to look for us there
..and I have an arsenal..including
..a licensed 40cal Glock..Mine has a safety however, and I don’t wear sweatpants..My beer is in the fridge, hence I don’t need to go to bars. If I do go out it is with my wife or my wife and kids..and the Glock stays home locked up.
I'm sure...
…once I land a wife, beach house and fridge full of IPA, I’ll be sitting on my porch stroking a gun waiting for people to try me.
I probably won’t take it to the bingo parlor or shuffleboard courts with me, though.
Good discussion though, and no hard feelings I hope. Let’s just agree that when the Giants win the Super Bowl we’ll all be shooting our guns (literally or euphemistically) off in some form.
by New York Sports Jerk on Aug 21, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
A double lol!!!
I think we should stick to cheering..this isn’t the Middle East..When a bullet is shot in the air, it comes back down! funny isn’t it?..I hope you do land a wife and a home on the beach..But let’s just cheer our guys from the porch and keep the guns locked up..lol..and now that you are thirty hurry up and find that wife..Your Mom and Dad I’m sure are looking to spoil some Grand-kids…As we do..the old addage is true..spoil them then they go home spoiled..lol..You don’t want to get too old, or you’ll have a tough time watching the G-men!!
I'm glad u 2 made up.
now we can get back to football. It’s not going to happen but I thinking we could use Ochocinco. The guy looks to be back in receiving form and who knew that he could kick. The extra point was right down the pike and his kickoff was just as good as Tynes (and Tynes gets paid to kick).
Haha!
Aw, just a little Father and Son spat..no big deal..He is a good kid..well intentioned…Plus he loves the Giants..Has alot going for him!..Yeah Ochocinco was kicking his entire football career..but he is another nutty guy that just doesn’t fit in a Giants jersey..He’s really good, but a major distraction from a team perspective. I think our receiving crew will do well this year..and man do I love this Barden..what a specimen..He even makes Plax look like a dwarf!
Barden is going to be special but I’m really rooting hard for Nicks because I live in NC and he is a Tarheel.
I am too..
I lived in NC for 15 years..(Apex) I saw that catch behind his back..a one-handed grab…He’s going to be special.
Wow..that is neat..
Small world when you think about it..I lived on Bells Lake Road in Apex..where are you?..I lived less than 15 minutes from downtown Raleigh..I have alot of great friends up there!
Geez..
We were pretty much neighbors!..You live less than twenty minutes from where we lived…It would have been nice to watch our team with you..Your welcome to come here to Port ST lucie, FL and watch a game with us..then I’ll take you out fishing.
It's a deal
and if you’re ever back in Raleigh, stop by. Thanks to DirectTV, the Gmen are always on my TV.
I miss NY though..
I don’t miss the cold..I had to move outta there because I worked for IBM ( IBM :I’’ve been moved)..they shipped me to NC, then I wound up in Florida four years ago. I retired early from IBM and now do consulting work..I guess I was destined to migrate south..Whereabouts in Raleigh do you live?
WAIT; I HAVE A SERIOUS QUESTION
Who the F* is that woman behind him? Is this his attorney wife?
Dear lord! She’s freakin’ gorgeous. I think I’ll give her my number, you know, in case she wants to date around.
In prison
We call you “Jody.” The guy that’s after your girl when you’re locked up. Dirty!
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Aug 20, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
That would be his wife..
Who on earth would want to go to a bar/nightclub vs staying home with her?
When you date a superhot girl for a long time
You just forget to appreciate it and you end up out looking for some strange. It’s the same as when you see in the tabloids some actor guy leaves his megahot actress GF or cheats on her… like anything else, you get acclimated.
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by Simms-McConkey on Aug 20, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
He won't have to serve 2 years
Usually guys can get out early for good behavior.
by hopeforthefuture3 on Aug 20, 2009 1:12 PM EDT reply actions
Best he can hope for on good behavior is 18 months, but who is to say his behavior will be good on the inside? It wasn’t on the outside.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Aug 20, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
He'll likely ask for protective custody, "Seg."
He’ll want to avoid the possibility of getting beat up. He doesn’t want to have to join a gang or anything like that. Then again, who knows with these mental cases. Maybe he’ll get lonely in seg and ask to be put in the general pop. In which case, anything goes. But usually when rich guys go to prison, they load up from the commissary with crud like TV, radio, etc., and don’t come out of the cell much anyway.
Ed, you should get in touch with him while he’s in and get an interview. He’ll be ahppy for the company.
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by Simms-McConkey on Aug 20, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe Vick can become his mentor..
After he gets out they could open up a kennel..
In CT and some states
“Good time” and “Transitional supervision” do not apply to violent crimes. I don’t know the actual charge he pled to, but if it’s a solid firearm charge I bet he does 85% of the time.
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by Simms-McConkey on Aug 20, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
he has to serve 20 months
under NY state law. They’ll keep him safe, they’ve had celebrities in jail before here.
20/24
is 83.33 percent of his sentence. Damn I’m good!
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by Simms-McConkey on Aug 21, 2009 7:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Plax is 6"6" 230LB football player
Im sure he could hold his own.
Then again, I doubt other than a few verbal jabs that anyone would fight the guy. Im sure there’s plenty of Giants fans in the Bullpen.
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by FreeBradshaw on Aug 22, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
celebrity yes,
he could be popular in gen. pop.
But I doubt he’ll be there, and a few reasons are:
1. at 6’6" 230, he won’t be the biggest guy around
2. prisons are gang-dominated and 1-on-1 fights are rare.
3. you’re assuming the mentality of non-criminals that wouldn’t fight the guy. There’s a lot of dumb guys in prison who do very few things well (and fighting is often one of them.)
One summer I spent in County, the three toughtest guys had to be about 6’4", 240 hulkish, 6’2" 320 fatty, and 5’5" 170 a little tank. Honestly I woulda bet on the short guy. He was unstoppable, I thought he was going to break my arm the one time we got into it.
Lastly, there’d be pressure on him to join a gang.
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by Simms-McConkey on Aug 24, 2009 8:04 AM EDT up reply actions
The ultimate of case of ...
“When keepin’ it real … goes wrong.”
Can’t help but wonder if the sentiment in the DA’s office would have been different (in length of plea deal) if he had played ball with the Giants from the get-go on this one.
Good
Wonder if he will learn his lesson now.
Probably not.
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by The American Mr.Hockey on Aug 20, 2009 2:28 PM EDT reply actions
plax
He wife is a lawyer, it was his gun and you have to pull the trigger of a glock in order for it to go off, for anyone who doesn’t own a glock and he got less then what the law states…
If an Athlete gets off its becuase he is rich and famous and everyone is mad, if they get thrown in jail its because the “MAN” is holding him down… Makes sense, i guess it was better in the old days when noone found out cause the cops let him go..
I for one am glad he is in jail… he is a DUMBASS and deserve it..
He didn't have to pull the trigger..
The Glock he had was a police version..no safety just pull the trigger..If it had a safety, and hit his nuts it would not have fired.
I hate to admit it ...
but deep down I really wanted him to do the time, so that we don’t have to see him play against the Jints. Other than that, 2 years seems a bit harsh for stupidity/arrogance.
As a taxpayer, I'm pretty pissed.
We pay ridiculous amounts of money to feed and guard this jackass for the next two years, why the hell are ny tax dollars being thrown away to prove a point?
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by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 20, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
House arrest would have been just fine, and much cheaper for everyone here.
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by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 20, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with you..
Keep him under house arrest..then maybe he’ll learn how to be a husband and father..
And remember
how much time Ray Lewis got. That would be, ah, zero.
Given the prior problems, including the domestic disturbances, I’m not shocked. Still, what a waste.
what the heck
not that i am a plaxico burress fan, but how does a guy shoot himself in the leg, and get 2 years in jail, and another guy spends a lifetime literally torturing and killing defenseless animals, financing a whole operation of it over state lines later in life, and only get 18 months…something is wrong here
Look
The comparison between Vick and Burress is silly. IMO what Plax did was worse cause it endangered peoples lives. Nightclubs are dark and people are dancing and drinking. What happens if someone had bumped into him or the bullet bounced another direction? Ask Shyne and Puffy about the shit that can happen when people bring guns and alcohol together. Plus the Feds dealt with Vick under their system and Plax was NY jurisdiction.
Another thing about Cheddar Plax. He almost bought Antonio Pierce and his own wife obstruction of justice charges with his nonsense on top of what he did. Plax is paying a steep price, but I can’t say he doesn’t deserve it.
comparison
sure, every situation is unique. But if you want to talk about poor judgement vs. carefully planned and long-term executed viciousness and sadistic cruelty in the name of profit, Plax wins this one. I hate it when the Vick thing gets called a mistake. Running an interstate crime ring is not a mistake.
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by Simms-McConkey on Aug 21, 2009 7:31 AM EDT up reply actions
"IMO what Plax did was worse cause it endangered peoples lives."
What if one of Vick’s dogs got loose and ran into some kids? You don’t think that was endangering peoples lives. Fact is, every single day people do stuff that endangers other people. The other day I almost started a fire cooking with grease – that fire could have burned down my apartment building. Should we outlaw cooking and put me in jail for 2 years for it? Plax was already punished for carrying a gun, when he SHOT HIMSELF IN THE LEG. 2 years in jail is a waste of taxpayer money to prove a point.
Stunned, Jim?
He had a great lawyer, too, who might have been able to get a good deal from the get-go. I think his problem was that he jerked the LEOs around from day one and didn’t stop until he ran out the clock. He had the DA’s office foaming at the mouth, including Morgenthau himself, not to mention Bloomberg. Plax remained in character throughout
and got poleaxed for it.
Being a celebrity didn’t help him or Vick. Both received punishments far in excess of those who commit more serious crimes (e.g., child molesters. Where’s the proportionality? I’m not surprised by flaws in our judicial system (or any for that matter.)
I agree with this. The problem with a lot of athletes is people overlook a lot when your one. They are used to getting off light. Even the Giants at times let Plax off the hook for stuff lessor players would have gotten cut for. They get used to it. Today Plax learned they are rules and limits even for football stars.
Your right on Doc..
But the Giant’s brass tried..they fined him what 40 times?..He has a major problem with authority, now he has no choice but respect it..I don’t think for a micro-second that any of us regular joes on this site or anywhere..would even get 40 chances to keep our job..We’d all be out on the street with pink-slips.
Maybe the 20 months
in jail will finally allow Plax to straighten out his life…and hopefully at 34 he’ll be able to play again. Afterall, football is where his skills lie..Although he is tall enough to change light-bulbs without a ladder.
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