'Kudos & Wet Willies:' Yes, it's back
Veteran members of Big Blue View Nation know the drill. The morning after each game we review the previous day's proceedings 'Kudos & Wet Willies' style. That means we gives 'Kudos' to the best performers and use 'Wet Willies' to heap scorn upon the worst.
So, let's get started with the first 'Kudos & Wet Willies' post of the 2009 season.
Kudos to ...
- Tommie Hill: Produced what ESPN termed "the greatest finish in pre-season football history." Hill snagged a ball batted away from Hunter Cantwell by Leger Douzable and ran it about 20 yards for a game-winning score on the final play. Hill probably won't make the team, but he will have a great story to tell.
- Ahmad Bradshaw: Watching Bradshaw last night had to bring a smile to the faces of Giants fans. He looked quick. He looked elusive. He looked strong. He looked ready to become the big-time part of the offense many have thought he should have been the past two seasons.
- Osi Umenyiora: Flew around right end to strip the ball from a helpless Jake Delhomme, showing that last season's knee injury won't slow him down this season. And, he did not get hurt.
"It felt good. It's great to be back out there. This is a good start," Umenyiora said. "I'm paid to hit the quarterback. That's what I do."
- Clint Sintim: Still has much to learn as a stand-up every down linebacker. As a pure pass rusher though, especially from defensive end, Sintim showed Monday night that he can already be a force. Gee, and the Giants sure did need another terrific edge rusher. Now, how do they get him on the field?
- Adam Koets: The backup center made it through a whole game without messing up an exchange. Amazing, since I don't think he has made it through an entire practice without leaving a ball on the ground.
- Mario Manningham: A nifty 22-yard punt return, and a nice catch on a ball from Eli Manning that was nullified by a penalty.
- Travonti Johnson: The backup safety had a team-high seven tackles. I barely noticed him during the game, and that is probably a good thing.
- David Carr: Anyone willing to sacrifice his body with a John Elway leap in the first exhibition game gets 'Kudos.' Aside from one play where he bailed out of the pocket too quickly, I thought Carr looked pretty good.
- Stoney Woodson: The seventh-round pick had an interception and a fumble recovery.
- Jon Gruden: I have never liked the guy. I will give him credit, though. He speaks his mind clearly and thoughtfully, and he seems pretty entertaining in the booth as part of the Monday Night Football crew.
Wet Willies to ...
- Lawrence Tynes: Yeah, yeah, pre-season game, he missed a bunch of last week with a minor leg injury, yadda, yadda, yadda. Sorry, not buying. After what John Carney did last season, missing your first effort -- a very makeable 43-yarder with no wind -- is not a good beginning for the Giants' kicker. He made a 46-yarder later, but I was already annoyed with him.
- Andre Woodson: The NFL game still looks too fast for the former University of Kentucky star. Woodson has been terrific in camp -- with no pass rushers threatening to decapitate him. In real game conditions last night, however, Woodson threw a bad interception and looked indecisive. He will have to do better than that to hold off Rhett Bomar for a spot on this team.
- The punt team: Somebody screwed up a blocking assignment, allowing a Jeff Feagles punt to be blocked. Sadly, I think it was David Tyree. He was the gunner on the play and jumped inside rather than taking the player off the corner, resulting in the kick being blocked. Tyree seems to have little chance to make this team, and special teams mistakes won't help.
Other notables
Danny Ware had a beautiful 36-yard touchdown run on a screen pass. Nice plays from rookie runing back Allen Patrick and defensive end Maurice Evans, as well.
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I think bradshaw looked strong and fast Monday night. I only watched the game midway through the 2nd quarter so I did not get to see barden. Manningham looked explosive and looked good on the return. I can’t stand tynes any more I just don’t trust him in the clutch to make field goals. I hope maurice evans makes the roster he is proving to be a force
Barden
I gotta say. It’s one thing to hear about how tall Barden is but to see him on TV next to Panther defenders… yikes.. I feel sorry for anyone covering him. But I agree with you with the whole Tynes thing. Most of his kicks barely split the uprights.
by uberfunction on Aug 18, 2009 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Bradshaw
He looked like the guy we saw in the playoffs of 2007 and the guy we should have seen in the playoffs of 2008.
I kept thinking
last night “FreeBradshaw must be loving this.” He’s gonna make a lot of Giants fans forget about Ward.
"Free Bradshaw" indeed.
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by solanumbrella on Aug 18, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't know how Ware only gets a notable
Dude was catching and running well.
Well ...
Twelve carries for 21 yards is why. Great run on the screen pass, but my list of ‘Kudos’ was getting pretty long. Had to cut it somewhere.
by Ed Valentine on Aug 18, 2009 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Considering the crud back-up o-line in front of him
I think he did alright to average near 2 yds/carry. The G-Men really need to improve the back-up situation there.
Kudos
Definitely a Kudos to Koets. I was never much a fan of his but I got to say I was impressed with him. The only downside would be his high snaps to Carr. At that point I was worried they’d fly over his head. The running game looks very very promising and as Giants fans, that’s what we expect every year. Although, I was getting worried we didn’t see many deep threats in the game. Hopefully we’ll see some more from the WR core this preseason.
Best play..
That was a well executed play and a nifty TD run by Ware..Bradshaw looked great..and Jacobs is, well Jacobs (he even caught a pass! he must be using hand lotion to soften them up)..strong as ever. Yes, Tynes stinks. My blood pressure goes up everytime he steps in for a field goal. Carr did a nice job, but he still hasn’t lost the “Pocket jitters” He still doesn’t stay in the pocket long enough. Bardon is wearing the perfect helmet..He is in fact a huge Giant..I would have liked to see Bomar throw the ball more. Mostly handoffs there (maybe next game). Finally, I thought Chucky Gruden did a nice job in the booth (Thank God there is no more Kornheader!) I could have done without that lengthy rant back and forth about the Wildcat jazz.
Pocket Jitters
That’s true about Carr. He bails too quickly. On the one sack, William Beatty had his man blocked — until Carr bailed and — more or less — got himself smashed into the ground.
by Ed Valentine on Aug 18, 2009 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed about Gruden
Although, if I remember correctly, it was primarily Jaws who kept on encouraging Chucky to talk about the Wildcat.
"A man of genius makes no mistakes. His errors are volitional and the portals of discovery." - James Joyce
When Sintim puts his hands
on the turf, it’s a scary sight. The guy can flat out fly off the line. Is he going to play DE in most situations, or will he be brought in as an OLB pass rushing specialist?
Sintim
I think you will see some of both. How’s this for a four-man line in obvious passing situations? Tuck and Kiwi inside, with Sintim and Osi outside. Scary for opposing QBs, I would think.
by Ed Valentine on Aug 18, 2009 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions
then there's the 5-man front
with Canty in the middle. And that’s leaving Robbins, Cofield, and Alford on the bench. Good lord we have a lot of pass rushers
He isn't converting
He has been playing some of both. He has end experience from being in a collegiate 3-4. He has played a lot of stand-up LB in camp, and played quite a bit of that last night, too.
by Ed Valentine on Aug 18, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
yea
I was so confused when I saw #97 get a sack in the 4th, I was wondering why the hell Kiwi was still out there. Wonder why he switched numbers
Kiwi switched
Because he wore 94 in college. It wasn’t available when he was a rookie.
by Ed Valentine on Aug 18, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Kiwi
Changed his number to 94. The numbers are final.
by Ed Valentine on Aug 18, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Kudos to Carr
He absolutely deserved that kudos. Aside from that instance where he jumped out of the pocket too quickly, he was playing very well. I missed the last quarter of the game. Did Hakeem Nicks catch anything? I vaguely recall a deep ball thrown his way that got broken up before he could have a chance.
Would have also loved to have seen Terrell Thomas get a mention. I love how he completely hunted Delhomme on that early pass to Hutmen—whatever. An interception would have been nice, but he killed that play and seemed to be making his presence known with the starting CBs out.
Nicks
He caught a couple.. nice pass catch that didn’t get commented on in the booth because they were “Jawing” about the wildcat …other than that, he was mediocre…and yes that was a great play Thomas made.
Actually..Nicks was 1 catch for nine yards
It was Barden that caught a 20 yarder that I referenced
I AM FIRED UP
We are so strong up front on both sides of the ball. The D line is going to wreak havoc on QB’s all year long and the combo of Jacobs and Bradshaw will keep the defense so off balance we will probably only need to pass 25-30 times a game.
And apparently I am not the only one who is fred up, I was at the game last night and the crowd was impressive for a pre-season game.
Punt team
The reason that the punt got blocked was that the Giants only fielded 10 players on the down. Look at the film and if you don’t believe ME, read Coughlin’s transcript. I thought it was a little strange to see a down D-Lineman from the Panthers with no Giant in front of him. I’d chalk that up to someone missing their call to the field. I’d bet it was a rookie Tackle, Louis, Thompson or Pennington. We’ll see who the first Tackle that gets cut is and it will most likely be the culprit.
Bleeding Blue since 1962
Probably right
But then again, someone is responsible in the huddle for counting players and calling timeout if they are short a man.
by Ed Valentine on Aug 18, 2009 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Quick thoughts
I thought Beatty won the battle overall against the Panthers second round pick, the only sacks he gave up came from QB’s holding the ball way too long. Not much on the run blocking that I could see. Reyes already looks like our top backup lineman. Barden made one good catch, thought he could have fought for the INT, and on the ball Woodson overthrew him I thought he must have lost it in the lights because he didn’t seem to really go after it. Overall I liked that they spread the ball around so much, screw forcing it to a “Number one guy”. And finally, I liked that our first teams beat their first teams, but I think it was good to have the Panthers come back, we can keep improving with no complacency settling in.
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by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 18, 2009 9:49 AM EDT reply actions
5-1-5
Ed I didn’t get to watch most of them game but I remember you mentioned the 5-1-5 defense…. did you see the giants use it at all last night??
No
they won’t put that on film for anyone in the pre-season. They will play pretty straight up.
by Ed Valentine on Aug 18, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I know its only pre season
but the Giants looked good. Boy how are they going to get to a 53 man roster?
I can’t stand Gruden, but then again I’m not a big fan of three man booths. I think that’s why Madden was so successful, he never had to deal with a third wheel.
Problem is...
Jaws already has enough “Jaws” to yak thru the whole darn game, now you have Gruden making him yak even more…but I’ll give him some credit for a decent debut in the booth…Hopefully they’ll both tone it down some..Kornheiser really drove me nuts…I used to mute the TV when he started ranting insigificant jargon.
5-1-5
I love defensive schemes. Barring injuries we should be good. Much room to improve.
I’m not a big fan of Gruden either but he was ok last night and I heard glimpses of brillance along with stunadary. Jaws is great and works well with Tirico.
Whats up with the new jerseys? They look like a LI flag football team. Great job Ed!!!!
by Last year in Sec 127 on Aug 18, 2009 10:10 AM EDT reply actions
I got a feeling its gonna have
the 3 headed DE monster, then maybe not right away but eventually Sintim and then a DT to add some fat to the menu?
Im saying this right now, Jay Alford will manage to get 6-7 sacks this season. He’s become a heat seeking missile. He might be that the fat that’s added to the 5-1-5 recipe on a few occasions.
Gotta love this team. The first team defense was flying, just absolutely flying all over the place.
The first team offense looked great. Hixon, Moss, and for the most part Manningham looking like they will be fine this season.
Oh yea, Jacobs is still a beast, Bradshaw is already making me say ‘Derrick who?’ and Danny Ware will make the team not miss a beat if/when Jacobs is out of the lineup.
Preseason I know, but you can tell who’s out there. The Panthers didn’t have everyone, but either did the Giants.
BRING ON THE SKINS ALREADY!
Do what Jerry Hairston do
by FreeBradshaw on Aug 18, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Putting 3 DEs on the field
is where I think Canty will becomes so valuable to the pass rush. He’s strong enough to play the run (in the event of a draw), big enough to occupy blockers to free LBs from his days in the 3-4, and he’s fast enough run the stunt or bull-rush the QB if that’s what the play calls for. His presence will add more possibilities to the D-line, hence the fat paycheck.
Yup.
I really don’t thing any of the Giants DT’s really won’t have a shot at being put in there with all those DE’s (and “LB” Sintim).
Robbins and Cofield can rush the passer, Bernard too, and Alford is more of a DE in a DT’s body.
But I agree, Canty is probably the ideal dude to anchor that 5-1-5
Do what Jerry Hairston do
by FreeBradshaw on Aug 18, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh Boy
Did Bradshaw look explosive out there! He reminds me a little of Jones-Drew. When he runs you can just tell he wants to get to that in-zone. Ware definitely impressed me, he ran with pretty good vision on that screen pass and broke a tackle or 2. I’ve already forgotten about Ward lol.
Carr played okay, looked a little shaky at times. Woodson stunk it up bad, that was terrible. And Gilbride barely gave Bomar a chance to throw the damn ball.
I don’t know about anybody else, but Sintim looked a lot bigger on screen then I though he was. He is a straight up BEAST. Overall I think our secondary deserves a kudos. Yes they gave up a few catches but I was impressed. I here all this talk about Terrell Thomas but Kevin Dockery looked veryyyy polished, did not get beat often. And Stoney will most certainly keep a spot on this team.
I feel like the passing game was stagnant. But that was mostly after Eli was on the sidelines and I do think receivers were getting open. Like on the Andre Woodson
INT there was a receiver wide open down the field. I was hoping to see more from Beckum but he did have a catch.
Overall good game I am extremely excited about this season.
LETS GO GMEN
3 man booth
I’m just glad they have two football guys in there now, and they scrapped the idea of having a “funny man.” I actually liked Gruden last night. I just wish they’d cut the pre-packaged crap (like the stuff about the wildcat) and just talk about the game at hand. If something happens in the game (like, for example, one of the teams starts running the wildcat), then you can have that conversation. But it just felt so forced and out of place last night. That’s why I hate national broadcasts in just about every sport.
Don't forget about ESPN's company line of "The Eagles are the favorites in the NFC"
they walked that line plenty of times
Do what Jerry Hairston do
by FreeBradshaw on Aug 18, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
The wildcat convo did feel a bit forced, and they were getting away from the game a lot too. I have to say Gruden was pretty entertaining, even with his excessive hand gestures. I think they have pretty good chemistry in the booth. But I’m sick of Mike Tirico messing up players names all the time. Does anyone else notice that?
LETS GO GMEN
by I_Formation27 on Aug 18, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
That running game was just fun to watch...
From Jacobs to Ware.
If these young receivers can catch, there should be plenty of YAC…everyone’s gonna have to stack the box to have any chance to stop the run, and Eli’s gonna be able to spread it around.
I liked that little screen they did with Hixon on the second drive, hopefully we’ll see some more of that from Gilbride to keep defenses guessing.
"We'll show up tomorrow and do the same thing we try to do every day, Kick Pedroia's ass in cribbage and try and win a baseball game."
by tito (eight and oh) on Aug 18, 2009 10:44 AM EDT reply actions
yes.
the screen pass is what I want to see more of.
With every WR now being quick and fast, I loved the WR screen to Hixon. I also loved that mysterious screen to Darcy Johnson. I would have loved to see that TE screen go to Beckum…..
Do what Jerry Hairston do
by FreeBradshaw on Aug 18, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes and like Ed said earlier
..like the 5-1-5, they aren’t going to provide any film for opposing teams to digest prior to the season on either side of the ball….Mostly vanilla with a test play inserted here and there.
Oh and Ed
I do believe Koets botched a snap and also Bomar tripped over him getting out of the snap once.
Do what Jerry Hairston do
Bomar did
trip over him once. I don’t recall any bad snaps, though I’d have to watch the tape again. There were a couple high ones, but they were catchable.
by Ed Valentine on Aug 18, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeap
I saw that too…reminded me of the great Dave Brown.
"We'll show up tomorrow and do the same thing we try to do every day, Kick Pedroia's ass in cribbage and try and win a baseball game."
by tito (eight and oh) on Aug 18, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
The punt team
Don’t forget that idiot Sinorice Moss’s decision to field a punt at the 2-yard line. He should have been cut on the spot.
by New York Sports Jerk on Aug 18, 2009 11:20 AM EDT reply actions
Manningham's first return
had us all looking at him as the return man of the future. Problem is, it had the same effect on him and Moss. After that, they tried to make things happen that weren’t there, like MM’s slip/fall and Moss’ fielding one inside the 5.
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Aug 18, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I hope
he did it with the blessing of Coughlin, sort of a “this is a preseason game and I’m more interested in seeing what you can do after you field the punt than in field position” type thing. Probably not, but one can hope
that's what I was thinking too
or at least hoping.
They might have just wanted to see Moss try and return it and see what he can do.
As long as he explained himself that he will NEVER do that in a real game, I was kinda OK with it.
Still, Id rather him show the coaches he has PR instincts and lets that one go.
Do what Jerry Hairston do
by FreeBradshaw on Aug 18, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
He made a mistake
He didn’t look as though he knew where he was when he caught it.
Speaking of Coughlin..
It looks like he is in gameshape…He still has his “End of the World” expression on his face, and he practiced the ’ol red flag toss and won out!..The man is ready!..and he still has that soft spot he inserted into his personal mellowing..I saw him actually pat Ware on the back!..Then immediatley got back to that “End of the World” look…I love that guy!!..He is fun to watch and obviously a great coach.
the team
played well as a whole! very excited about this year. why didn’t we keep Carney???? we look pretty strong. im wanna see who makes the final 53.
by rumble27 on Aug 18, 2009 1:19 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Carney
was great inside 40-45 yds, but had absolutely no distance. tynes is shakier inside 45 but significantly better outside 45 yds.
Carney was also only 11/15 in the last 5 games, including 3/7 on 40+ yd attempts. He played great early on, but clearly didn’t have the power late in the season.
It’s possible that he either got tired at the end of the season (due to age) or just didn’t have the power to kick through the gusting winds in Giants Stadium.
"A man of genius makes no mistakes. His errors are volitional and the portals of discovery." - James Joyce
yeah
And Tynes is money from 45…
No offense to Lawrence of course
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Aug 18, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
We will be relegated..
To watching Carney split the uprights again this year…for another team, while Tynes muffs them. He says he learned alot from Carney…Hmmm..I wonder if making a field goal was part of the lessons he learned…apparently not.
Gruden
He clearly knows his stuff (obsession with the wildcat aside) and I think he can be a good analyst on that basis, but he needs to STOP YELLING.
Kudos to second team linemen
Tutan Reyes and Kevin Boothe.. Bot played pretty well, especially Reyes.
Wet Willies to Vince Anderson- Missed a tackle he should have made that led to a TD
President of the Ramses Barden Fan Club
Yea they showed him up against that second round end the Panthers picked quite a few times...
And he was consistently beating him (with a little inside help on occasion) from what I saw.
"We'll show up tomorrow and do the same thing we try to do every day, Kick Pedroia's ass in cribbage and try and win a baseball game."
by tito (eight and oh) on Aug 19, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously....
…who want’s to line up against our defensive front?
As Michael Strahan walked off the field, I finally got the impression that now the torch has been officially passed on.
How lucky did we get with Tuck...
Osi doesn’t respond so well to being doubled, and if all we had was Kiwi to play the other end that would probably be the story every week. With Tuck coming in out of nowhere he’s going to demand to get doubled every week…Osi can feast accordingly.
"We'll show up tomorrow and do the same thing we try to do every day, Kick Pedroia's ass in cribbage and try and win a baseball game."
by tito (eight and oh) on Aug 19, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions

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