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Blast from Big Blue's Past- A Look at the 70's

 

The 1970’s were not a very kind decade for the NY Giants.

Between 1970 and 1979, the G Men sported a 50-93-1 record and lost almost 2 out of every 3 times they took the field. The ten year span saw some particularly odorous teams such as the 2 victory efforts in 1973 and 1974 and the three victory campaign in 1976.

Playing so poorly, the Giants had a high draft pick. Check out their top picks:

1970 - Jim Files- 1st round – LB - Oklahoma                                                                                    

1971 –Rocky Thompson – 1st round –RB- West Texas State                                                 

1972 – Eldridge Small -1st Round –DB- Texas A&I                                                                    

1972 – Larry Jacobson -1st Round – DT - Nebraska                                                                   

1973 - Brad Van Pelt -2nd Round – LB –Michigan State                                                                

1974 - John Hicks -1st Round- OG –Ohio State                                                                       

1975 –Al Simpson -2nd Round- OT –Colorado State                                                                        

1976 – Troy Archer – 1st Round- DT – Colorado                                                                          

1977 – Gary Jeter – 1st Round –DT- USC                                                                                      

1978 – Gordon King – 1st Round – OT- Stanford                                                                          

1979 – Phil Simms – 1st Round- QB –Moorehead State

I remember Files as a steady LB that had a pretty good career. Thompson was an explosive kick returner, if he had better hands- he could have been awesome. Van Pelt and Jeter were studs- fantastic players, and a real steadying force in the Giants locker room. They were team leaders.

The Giants also had a habit of drafting highly touted award winning college players that were a colossal bust in the NFL. Anyone remember Rich Glover? Larry Jacobson? John Hicks? Tom Gatewood?

Glover was a defensive lineman at the University of Nebraska and is one of the very few players to ever win the Outland Trophy and the Lombardi Trophy. The Giants picked him on the 3rd round in the 1973 draft and high hopes for him, even if he was a little under-sized at 6”1” and 240 pounds.. He was a bust, played in 13 games that year, was out all year in 1974, went to the Iggles for 14 games in 1975, and was gone for good after that.

Jacobson was a superstar DT on Nebraska's 1970 and 1971 national championship teams. Another Outland Trophy winner, he was the Giants second of two first round picks in 1972. He played with the Giants for four non-eventful seasons.

Hicks was another big-time college player that flamed out in the NFL. In 1973, he amazingly won the Outland Trophy, won the Lombardi trophy, and was SECOND in Heisman Trophy voting! He played in 52 games with the Giants between 1974 and 1977. Somehow, he caught one pass in 1975 for a 5 yard gain. The Giants were 5-9 that year, so no doubt that had to be an offensive highlight.

Gatewood was a flashy All America WR out of Notre Dame. He led ND in receiving in 1969, 1970, and 1971. He was the Irish’s co-captain in 1971. The Giants grabbed him on the 5th round in 1972. His NFL career was under-whelming. In 1972 and 73 he appeared in a handful of games, and amassed zero yards on zero receptions. The Giants were 1-6 when he stepped onto the field, and were outscored 183-63.

Thank God they drafted Phil Simms in 1979, that helped the turnaround in the 1980’s, to say the least…

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by celerino sanchez on Jul 3, 2009 8:58 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I really can't fault the Giants for some of those picks

Jacobson, Hicks and Glover were sensational college players, but had very short NFL careers because of injuries. I followed Glover closely because he came from my home town. He was just a hard luck guy. Bob Devaney called him the best DL he ever saw, although I thought he should have been converted to LB in the pros.I thought Troy Archer was headed for the HOF, but he was killed in a traffic accident. With those guys it was more like a curse was working on the Jint’s draft choices, just another part of the hard luck they suffered for so many years. King was more or less adequate. Gatewood was a total bust as was IMO Rocky. I believe he was not just a first rounder but a # 1 pick as well. I don’t remember Jeter looking that good with the Giants (hard to do on those teams, though Van Pelt managed to make All-Pro many times.) Jeter really blossomed (or came into his own) in LA

by blue gonz on Jul 3, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great Comment...

All those crappy teams led to the hiring of George Young after the ’78 season then the roll started-Phil Simms, Bill Parcells, LT, Carl Banks, Joe Morris,, That started things off and the curse was gone !!!

Our new GM is doing a fantastic job, we’re drafting a lot better now, thank God.

by celerino sanchez on Jul 4, 2009 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Player development

There are two parts to successful drafts. The first is evaluating the talent. While some are better then others in this regard, it is still a gamble. Players that looked great on one team in college could land on a team that don’t have the right philosophy or the right complimentary talents. Early injuries, and other issues can derail promising players.

But the other part is player development Players coming out of college are still pretty raw. Almost no player out of college is “complete” they all need development. They need to be taught how to prepare. Especially in today’s salary cap era, you need be able to bring young players along quickly.

In addition to the questionable draft picks, those teams had turmoil in the front office and a group of less than stellar coaches.

by NYERinSF on Jul 4, 2009 7:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Giants of that era

were a terribly-managed organization. It took the fan revolt brought on by the infamous 1978 “Miracle of the Meadowlands” game against the Eagles to bring management to its senses and hire George Young to run the team.

by django48 on Jul 9, 2009 11:00 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That was the decade that I really got hooked on the G-Men

As horrible as they were, they were so much fun to watch. You’d learn to appreciate small things, like a succesful long snap on a punt. One big unexpected win over Dallas or the Skins would make the whole year. And when they finally made the playoffs in 1981, it was like a dream come true.

"Blanchard kicks a high twisting spiral".... God Bless Marty Glickman

by celerino sanchez on Jul 9, 2009 10:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

70's draft

i don’t know who wrote this article,but they made a few mistakes.1-jeter was a starter,but he wasn’t any good:i saw him play,he was terrible.2-gordon king was a starter for a few years,he was ok,i’ve seen worse.3-troy archer,if his life had not been cut short by that auto accident,would have been a hall of fame defensive tackle.in the last 6 games he played in he was so good he warrented 2x and 3x teaming from the o-lines he went up against.he would have been the next bob lilly.i do agree with mr. sanchez on one point:this is the era i grew up in and got me hooked on giants football![oh,i know he was a 3rd or 4th round pick,but what about hall of famer harry carson?]

derek de pinho

by rbcarpenter on Jul 14, 2009 9:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

In defense of Gary Jeter

Jeter was a much better player than you give him credit for. He played 13 years in the NFL. For five of those years, he was a Giant starter.

 He made the All-Rookie team in 1977. In 1980 he led the Giants with 10 sacks and was an alternate to the Pro Bowl. In 1981 he had 7 sacks and starred on a defense that debuted Lawrence Taylor – the Giants made the playoffs for the first time in years.

"Blanchard kicks a high twisting spiral".... God Bless Marty Glickman

by celerino sanchez on Jul 14, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Giants Drafting in the 1970s

By the time Wellington Mara died, he had been virtually canonized. However, he was the main reason why the Giants were as bad as they were in the 1970s, since he tried to act as his own general manager, hiring the coaches and running the draft. The team had a knack for bad decisions. One of the things you don’t see in the above analysis, for example, is who the Giants passed over.
 When they took Rocky Thompson in 1971 – who never should have been a first round choice – they overlooked Jack Youngblood, Jack Tatum, Dan Dierdorf, and Ken Anderson, among others.
When they took John Hicks in 1974 – who I recall as a pure drive blocker who was hopeless in pass protection – they passed up Randy Gradishar, Jack Lambert, and Lynn Swann.
Similar examples can be found in other years.
Every team makes mistakes, but the Giants seemed to make them all the time.
To become a better team, they had to move Wellington Mara out and get a real general manager. At the urging of the league, he gave way to George Young. It took some of the old time Giants fans several years to get over Mara’s mistakes and just accept him for the kind of person he was.
PS. Try looking at the drafts of the 1960s – even more interesting, esp Joe Don Looney in 1964, who the Giants traded before the season started.

Mickey C

by Mickey C on Jul 14, 2009 8:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice analysis

Nice job, very well written. Wellington was beloved for sure, but it wasn’t until he relinquished some power to George Young that the franchise’s fortunes took a turn for the better. Thank you for your comments

"Blanchard kicks a high twisting spiral".... God Bless Marty Glickman

by celerino sanchez on Jul 14, 2009 9:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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