This year's useless try at predicting the Giants' season-opening 53-man roster
OK, so with training camp only days away it is time to take a stab at predicting the season-opening 53-man roster. It's an exercise in complete futility. I mean, there is no way to predict injuries, and no guessing what veterans might get picked up right before the season starts.
But, I will take a stab at it anyway. Before Week 1 I will have to remember to look back and see how close I got.
Quarterbacks: Starter -- Eli Manning. Backup -- David Carr, Andre Woodson, Rhett Bomar.
The obvious fight here is between Bomar and Woodson for the third slot. Bomar, this year's fifth-round pick, was better than Woodson, last season's sixth-round pick, in the mini-camps. There is very little reason to think that won't still be the case in training camp. The Giants kept only two quarterbacks on the 53-man last season. Most teams keep three, and I am going to base this choice on Tom Coughlin keeping three.
The picks (3) -- Manning, Carr, Bomar
Running Backs: Starters -- RB Brandon Jacobs, FB Madison Hedgecock. Backup -- RB Ahmad Bradshaw, RB Danny Ware, RB Andre Brown, RB Allen Patrick, RB Dwayne Wright.
The roster spots here are easy to pick. The fight that will develop for carries behind Jacobs is not. I haven't got a clue who will emerge as the true backup behind Jacobs. I know, however, that between Bradshaw, Ware and the rookie Brown I'm not worried about it.
The picks (5) -- Jacobs, Hedgecock, Bradshaw, Ware, Brown.
Tight Ends: Starter -- Kevin Boss. Backup -- Michael Matthews, Darcy Johnson, Lee Vickers, Travis Beckum.
Third-round pick Travis Beckum wasn't drafted to block. Kevin Boss can block, but he is a pass-catcher. That means the third tight end has to be a big-time blocker, and that's what Matthews is.
The picks (3) -- Boss, Beckum, Matthews.
Wide Receivers: Starters -- Steve Smith, Domenik Hixon. Backups -- Mario Manningham, Sinorice Moss, David Tyree, Taye Biddle, Shaun Bodiford, Derek Hagan, Micah Rucker, Hakeem Nicks, Ramses Barden.
There are likely six roster spots to be had out of this group, and barring injury or trade it is pretty clear who will get them. That means a sad goodbye to Super Bowl 42 hero David Tyree. It also means cult hero Micah Rucker is likely playing for a spot on the practice squad.
The picks (6) -- Smith, Hixon, Manningham, Moss, Nicks, Barden.
Offensive Linemen: Starters -- LT David Diehl, LG Rich Seubert, C Shaun O’Hara, RG Chris Snee, RT Kareem McKenzie. Backups -- T Guy Whimper, T/C Adam Koets, T Andrew Carnahan, G/T Kevin Boothe, T Cliff Louis, G/T Terrance Pennington, G Tutan Reyes, G/T Orrin Thompson, T Will Beatty.
Each and every Giants' fan should pray that this starting offensive line, one of the league's best, continues to stay healthy. There isn't much in the way of dependable backups.
Second-round pick William Beatty should make the team. Veteran guard Tutan Reyes is likely in. The versatility of being able to play guard and tackle probably gets Kevin Boothe a slot. There has to be a backup center, so Adam Koets probably also sneaks onto the roster.
The picks (9) -- Diehl, Seubert, O'Hara, Snee, McKenzie, Beatty, Reyes, Boothe, Koets.
Defensive Linemen: Starters -- LE Justin Tuck, LT Barry Cofield, RT Fred Robbins, RE Osi Umenyiora. Backups -- DE Mathias Kiwanuka, DE/DT Chris Canty, DT Rocky Bernard, DT Jay Alford, DE Dave Tollefson, DE Maurice Evans, DT Anthony Bryant, DT Jeremy Clark, DT Leger Douzable, DE Robert Henderson, DE Tommie Hill.
If everyone gets through camp healthy, some very good football players will wind up being available to the NFL's other teams. I doubt there is another unit in the league that is this talented and this deep. The hardest cut out of this group will be Dave Tollefson, a popular player who has played well at times in sporadic opportunities. But with all this depth, with Jay Alford doubling as snapper on field goals and PATs, and with the talented Maurice Evans likely ending up on the practice squad I don't know how Tollefson sticks around.
The picks (8) -- Tuck, Cofield, Robbins, Umenyiora, Kiwanuka, Canty, Bernard, Alford.
Linebackers: Starter -- SLB Danny Clark , MLB Antonio Pierce , WLB Michael Boley. Backup -- MLB Chase Blackburn, MLB Jonathan Goff, WLB Bryan Kehl, WLB Gerris Wilkinson, SLB Zak DeOssie, SLB Kenny Ingram, SLB Clint Sintim, MLB Kelvin Smith.
The picks (8) -- Clark, Pierce, Boley, Blackburn, Goff, Kehl, DeOssie, Sintim
Defensive Backs: Starter -- LCB Aaron Ross, RCB Corey Webster, FS Michael Johnson, SS Kenny Phillips. Backup -- CB Vince Anderson, SS C.C. Brown, SS/FS Steve Cargile, CB Kevin Dockery, CB Bruce Johnson, CB Travonti Johnson, FS Sha’reff Rashad, CB Terrell Thomas, CB Stoney Woodson, CB DeAndre Wright.
The Giants are deep and talented at cornerback, a fact that is incredibly important in today's pass and blitz-happy NFL. They aren't so deep at safety, and I think that might leave room for undrafted free-agent Sha'reff Rashad to sneak onto the roster.
The picks (9) -- Ross, Webster, Johnson, Phillips, Brown, Dockery, Rashad, Thomas, Wright.
Kickers (2): P Jeff Feagles, K Lawrence Tynes
Feagles is the best in the business at what he does. Tynes makes many Giants' fans nervous, but he is a perfectly acceptable veteran kicker.
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I think you nailed it
As sorry as I am to see Tyree go, unless there is a catastrophic injury he probably doesn’t make it. The only difference I could see would be one less Oline (Koets or Boothe) for one more Dline (Tollefson probably). I just think that after making such a push to improve Dline depth, they will maximise it as much as possible. Maybe a surprise LB drop ( Goff?still leaves them with 7). Why, oh why do we have to be the last team to start camp?
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by bigbluethruandthru on Jul 27, 2009 8:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tollefson
Would be a tough cut, of course. And yes, Boothe could go. I think you have to keep a true backup center, and it’s the only reason Koets could make it.
by Ed Valentine on Jul 27, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice
Only a few that could change.
I actually think Whimper makes the team over Boothe. Actually, I can see both being left off cuz Reyes can play T or G, and I think Koets can play every position. So with Beatty there is really no reason to hold up a spot for those 2.
And what about DeOssie? I guess the Steelers have shown that guys who can long snap are invaluable, but that’s all he does!
I think the DB spot is gonna be the one where the biggest surprise will make it. I agree on Rashad making it, but also don’t count out Stoney Woodson. Reese seemed to make a throwaway pick there, but you never know with him.
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 27, 2009 8:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No Moss
Agree on Gerris and Tollefson. Tough cuts that will benefit some other team somewhere.
But I put Moss in that category. He will get hurt and then cut. Tyree may yet make it.
OL ? Koets, Reyes, Beatty may be it. Boothe is a stopgap. The idea of him starting….ech.
by MSP Giant on Jul 27, 2009 8:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Robbins
35 years old + 320 lbs + microfracture = IR.
I love big Freddie, but I just don’t see him making it on the field for the start of the season. My guess would be they do what they did with Tyree last year where he starts the season on IR and they have to make a decision by week 10 or whatever on whether to add him, cut him, or IR him for the season.
I think you did a great job here, Ed. Some tough cuts indeed. I dunno, before just cutting loose so much talent, if I were JR, I’d try to grab a couple 6s or 7s for some of these guys (like when we sent Grant to GB) first.
by TNYFBG on Jul 27, 2009 10:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It wouldnt be IR, it'd be PUP
Physicaly unable to perform.
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by NewYorkGiants24.7 on Jul 27, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
Robbins will make the team if he is healthy. But, we just have to wait and see, I guess.
by Ed Valentine on Jul 27, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
backup center
Don’t forget Seubert plays center too.
by queler on Jul 27, 2009 10:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I know
the problem with that, though, is that he is a starting guard. Move him to center you have to replace him at guard, meaning you then have changed two spots. If you have a true backup center you only have to replace one, and that is better IMHO.
by Ed Valentine on Jul 27, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Danny Ware, not Andre Ware.
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by squid92 on Jul 27, 2009 11:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
I copied and pasted the list from somewhere else, and didn’t catch that. Fixed now.
by Ed Valentine on Jul 27, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that caption is weird on the photo
Bomar vs. Woodson does not interest me at all and I would be shocked if Bomar doesn’t win a spot.
by queler on Jul 27, 2009 11:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Spag pickups
I wouldn’t be surprised if Spags picks up some of our cuts, esp on the defensive side of the ball – and I wouldn’t mind as much either. I would like to see him do well in St. Louis.
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by 27Tango on Jul 27, 2009 11:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There's no doubt...
that we will (as well as other teams) be cutting some really good players and some hidden gems. It would be nice if the new league (UFL) and the NFL worked something out like having the UFL serve as a minor league to the NFL. Teams could keep and groom all of their players and would not have to worry about losing what could turn out to be the next Ryan Grant. Also if an NFL player is playing sub par ball, send him down to the UFL for a couple of weeks. This could also eliminate the IR.
by njgiant on Jul 27, 2009 1:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Roster management
Perhaps Bomar goes to the practice squad and Woodson gets cut – TC carries 2 QBs. He did it last year.
Robbins goes on PUP.
That is two slots to get creative with.
by MSP Giant on Jul 27, 2009 5:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think
you can leave Bomar unprotected like that. He’s not a 1st round talent at QB, but I really doubt that a team would hesitate to grab him if he’s on the P-squad.
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 27, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think he could be
I got a real good feeling about him, not that we need it
by queler on Jul 27, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
evans
I see maurice evans making the team, ive heard and read alot of good talk about him from the coaches!
by poof91 on Jul 28, 2009 10:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
other thoughts
How about Kevin Dockery? I was not jazzed to see him get re-signed for one more yr. OK sure, he is one of the most senior in our DB corps. but hell, he tends to get burned like a stuck bagel in the toaster
OK, Koets and Tollefson (whom I do like) may not survive. Hate 2C Tyree go.( Keep him for special teams!!!) Maybe TE Darcy Johnson sez adios…..
And we shoulda schitt-canned K Tynes, NYG@GB game-winning kick notwithstanding (remember it took him THREE TRIES????)
Oh yeah, almost forgot, GOOOO BLUE!!!!!
by BobosoGoJints on Jul 28, 2009 10:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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