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Spotlight: Kevin Gilbride

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One of the most fascinating parts of the upcoming season for the New York Giants will be how they sort out all the new offensive toys they have, and how offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride chooses to play with them.

Mentioning Gilbride's name, of course, almost always guarantees an emotional reaction from Giants' fans. He is the guy Giants' fans love to hate -- and the guy who we love to blame every time anything goes wrong offensively.

Gilbride is the man of many nicknames among Giants' faithful -- none of them complimentary. Kevin KillDrive and Kevin GilGarbage come to mind. You guys probably have a few others, some of which I might prefer not to hear.

Long-time BBV readers know that I like Gilbride. He is far from perfect and he sometimes makes me wish I could go all Buddy Ryan on him, but all-in-all Gilbride is pretty darn good at his job. I think the overall offensive numbers, the fact that the Giants won a Super Bowl with him calling the plays and the respect Gilbride has around the league speak to that.

Let's take a closer look at the Giants' offense last season, then we will turn our attention to what we miight see in 2009.

The numbers tell you the Giants had a very good offense in 2008.

  • They tied for third in the league in points per game at 26.7 with the high-flying Arizona Cardinals. So, if the Cardinals' offense was 'high-flying' what does that make the Giants?
  • They led the league in both average per rushing attempt (5 yards) and yards per game (157.4).
  • Football Outsiders ranked the Giants as the second-most efficient offense in the NFL.
  • The Giants were in the middle of the pack with their passing game, but Eli Manning did establish career bests in completion percentage (60.3) and quarterback rating (86.4). And yes, I know QB rating is a horrible stat.
  • In one eight-game stretch in 2008 the Giants scored 30 or more points six times.

Love him or hate him, objectively you have to be willing to give Gilbride at least some of the credit for these accomplishments. When you go to kvetch about Gilbride, and I know you will, just remember how much better the Giants have been offensively since KG took over the reigns from the truly incompetent John Hufnagel.

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Gilbride is highly thought of around the league. The Sporting News, using a panel of former NFL scouts, recently ranked Gilbride at the fourth-best offensive coordinator in the league. Many of you probably just spit up your orange juice reading that line. Here is what TSN said about KG.

He couples power runs with downfield passes. His philosophy relies on big, athletic man-blockers on the line to wear down defenses with the run and set up play-action passes. The Giants control the clock with a basic and conservative offense that capitalizes on defensive mistakes.

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Gilbride's Giants.com bio is, admittedly, not an objective look at KG, but it does show that Gilbride has coordinated some highly successful -- and even imaginative -- offenses throughout his career.

That said, we all know Gilbride has his flaws. In their last six games of 2008 -- roughly the post-No. 17 era -- the Giants scored more than 30 points just once.

I'm not buying the argument that seven or eight weeks is not enough time for a veteran NFL coach to examine the strengths and weaknesses of the players he has remaining and make adjustments to his game-planning and play-calling to fit those players. There were adjustments that needed to happen at the end of last season, and they weren't made. That brings me back to those Gilbride flaws.

  • There is an alarming inability sometimes to deviate from his plan and make in-game adjustments. 
  • There is an obsession with balance that sometimes leads him away from things that are working (read, giving the ball to Brandon Jacobs) in the name of trying not to be predictable.
  • The Giants are, by nature, a traditional, conservative offense. There is, with KG, an annoying tendency to let his creative side come out at bad times -- like a drive-killing reverse to Mario Manningham or a direct snap to Derrick Ward at an inopportune time.
  • Most damning of all, to me, there is a tendency to ignore the wintry Northeast elements (read Giants' Stadium winds) and ask Manning to attempt throws that have little chance to succeed. Yo, Kevin, you're not in sunny Jacksonville. Or in a dome in Houston. You are in New York. In late fall and winter. Figure it out. And keep it simple

I honestly don't think it is fair to kill Gilbride for an individual play call, or for a play that simply doesn't work. Every coach has made decisions they regret. Besides, players sometimes screw up. Bad stuff happens.

Overall, Gilbride's body of work has been a good one.

That said, let's turn the page to 2009. Obviously, Gilbride will have a much different set of weapons to work with in 2009 than he had the past two seasons.

Can he figure out how to maximize the strengths of Domenik Hixon and Steve Smith? Can he figure out what Hakeem Nicks does well and how to turn the Giants' No. 1 pick into a play-making threat? Can he figure out what to do with the freakish Ramses Barden, aside from throw him Red Zone fade routes? Can he figure out how Mario Manningham can contribute? Can he figure out a way to create mismatches with Kevin Boss and Travis Beckum?

Can he take advantage of the talents of Ahmad Bradshaw, and the other guys who will back up Jacobs?

The Giants may not have a guy on the outside who consistently needs to be double-teamed, but they do have a plethora of talented weapons. They should be able to create mismatches with the varied talents of the players they have.

That will be Gilbride's primary challenge in 2009. The success and failure of their offense, and largely their season, rides on his ability to figure it out. There will, I am sure, be bumps in the road. I have to believe, however, that

(NOTE: I hesitated to write this because I know KG generates some emotional responses. Please do better than 'Gilbride sucks' in your comments. Let's have a rational discussion).

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Gilbride reminds me of a guy I played high school hoops with

He is absolutely spot on some days, and other days he looks like he should be cut, never to return to the floor. Much like Eli, his lack of consistency in how he plays is frustrating. Not being able to adjust to different conditions is not a good thing, no matter how well things may go in the games where the Giants are rolling.

by brisulph on Jun 8, 2009 7:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Adjustments

I think that’s the key thing with KG. There are times we don’t see adjustments to conditions, defenses, whatever. Yet, overall he does a good job.

by Ed Valentine on Jun 8, 2009 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I completely agree with what you said about his problems in giants stadium.

Home field is supposed to give you an advantage, but over the last few seasons it has seemed more like a disadvantage. I feel like that is almost inexcusable.

by P. Gibbons on Jun 8, 2009 9:04 AM EDT reply actions  

See Eagles Game(s) at Home

All he had to do was pay attention when we were on D to what Philly was doing to see what would work in those winds. Its not that he tried something and it failed, its that he kept doing it! Thats the issue I have with the guy. There are times when you have to make changes.

by ryanwk628 on Jun 8, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Giants and fans

are stuck with this guy cuz of his success. If there was a ‘bad’ thing for the Giants to be successful, its that they have to keep Gibride.

Really can’t argue against SB champ being one of the best offenses in football.

I’ve been saying I’ve wanted him gone for a while, even during the SB run.

Its probably a ‘be careful what you wish for’ situation, cuz Gilbride is light years better than John Hufnagel.

He needs to adjust better in the conditions yes. He also needs to adjust “less” during games. Calling one creative play, then never calling it again? Sometimes you just have to use plays until they stop them.

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 8, 2009 9:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Fair and

well-balanced approach, Ed.

by blue gonz on Jun 8, 2009 9:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Thanks, George

I stewed on how to write this one for weeks. I knew I had to at some point, but I was leery because I know how emotional people get about Gilbride.

by Ed Valentine on Jun 8, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't get it

I mean those flaws that you listed are just KILLER flaws. Obviously he does something well, but I’m not convinced that we are winning any additional games then we would have one with average or above average OC. I know we’re losing some of those games. My opinion is that he was severely reigned in after that horrible Redskins game before the Super Bowl run. The feeling of the offense from that game to the Super Bowl has felt completely different to me, then the rest of his body of work. I think I’m a fan of whoever took over his brain from week 15 to the Championship, but I’m not sold on the other guy.

Now that I think about it, it’s tough not to give him a big chunk of credit for that Green Bay game and the absolute murder of Al Harris

by queler on Jun 8, 2009 9:56 AM EDT reply actions  

The NFC Championship game vs Green Bay

is an excellent example of calling plays until the opposition figures out a way to stop it.

by rzor on Jun 8, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

and something that is

the complete opposite of what Gilbride does.

I wouldn’t doubt that if at one point during 07 Coughlin was the one calling the plays.

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 8, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not only

was that playoff run and that game in particular much different than what KG usually does with X’s & O’s, but so was the fact that KG actually adjusted at all from his regular season play calling. Either KG wasn’t calling plays/directed to call them that way or he does have the capability and there are other reasons as to why adjustments are not being made at other times (i.e. personnel). Really with TC running things, we have some of the worst access in all football into what is going on in the inside of that coaching staff so we can’t ever be sure as to the dynamic that is going on here.

by potroast on Jun 8, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

A man divided

On the one hand I read this post thinking he has a gaggle of flaws, and his main strength seems to be calling conservative plays. Anyone can call weak-side counters and TE flare routes. On the other hand, San Diego ran “Marty-ball” out of town and hasn’t really been the same since.

by rzor on Jun 8, 2009 10:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Sometimes

simple is better. Find what works and keep doing it. No reason to try and be fancy and cool when you are better than the other guy. Just beat him up.

by Ed Valentine on Jun 8, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think that's it

Sometimes, simple was the way to go. Earth, Wind and Fire, the running game. At 5 yards as a team, you can’t ignore that. But, sometimes he would try to get fancy when in fact, the Giants were the better team (player)! It’s like an uneccessary adjustment with no results vs. when we need neccessary adjustments, none are made with the same results?!

I would be more satisfied with a more proven conservative game plan that’s been working, rather than stray from it with adverse affects! IDK, perhaps he has mental lapses, and forgets, this isn’t the Houston run-n-shoot days?!!! lol

But to be fair to KG, which has been brought up. The blame game could or can be evenly distributed amongst a few, and not soley on him! I agree with that.

by Hootman on Jun 8, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

you make a good point

it’s almost like he’ll mix things up at random. Like he’s not even paying attention to the games, and he just decides “with 3 minutes left in the 3rd quarter, I’m gonna change things up.” Doesn’t matter if what he started doing wasn’t working at all for the first half, he’ll stick with it until 3 minutes left, and it doesn’t matter if it’s still working, he’s gonna change it anyway.

by cjmulrain on Jun 8, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vince Lombardi used to tell his Giants players (and I’m sure Packers players) “No matter how many times we run the same play, if we run it the way we’re supposed to, they won’t stop it”

Or something along those lines

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jun 8, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

but but but

football has evolved so much since Lombardi, obviously coaches have to devise the trickiest playbooks possible. No way power running teams will ever win in the modern NFL. Wait…

by cjmulrain on Jun 8, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

EXACTLY!

Which is why the Giants should have run for 400 yards against Philly in the playoffs last year

You play to win the game!

by Simms-McConkey on Jun 9, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gilbride sucks

kidding Ed ;)

I’m with everyone else in that I’m pretty torn about Gilbride. I know his results have actually been pretty good, but I just can’t help but feel that’s mostly b/c of the personnel and a more creative OC could have us scoring 35 a game.

by cjmulrain on Jun 8, 2009 11:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Uh-oh
Gilbride sucks

Someone is poking the hornets nest! lol

by Hootman on Jun 8, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was my argument

against Hufnagel as well. If the argument for Gilbride is results, how is he actually comparing against his predecessor?

by queler on Jun 8, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good Read

I like Gilbride but I often find myself asking the some of the same questions during games, " Why did we run that play" or " are you kidding me" but I understand what the Giants are trying to do. They want a balanced attack, I have heard those words come out of TC’s mouth so often and it makes me think of some of the plays that Gilbride calls. Using the running game to set up the pass with play action to try and trick the defenses.

I know that we can all think of times when KG has frustrated all of us to our wits end but I think that he does a good job trying to accomplish what TC has set out for this team. I think that he will find a way to get the ball to all of the weapons and have them contribute.

I also think that we can create match up problems for defenses at least early in the season becuase all of the tapes that other teams have from us are with Toomer and Burress in the line up and they will have to gameplan for some different players that we can throw at them.

by GiantRB27 on Jun 8, 2009 12:06 PM EDT reply actions  

The offense put up good numbers and Plax only caught 4 td's!

So there must be some kind of receiving talent and decent play calling there. I think the Giants offensive game plan will mirror the defense. The defense doesn’t really have a superstar player, it has pro bowlers, very talented players and amazing depth. I think that the offense will do the same and there will just be too many players that teams will have to game plan for. I like that we have a ton of talented no name receivers who are hungry and want to be at every practice and every OTA to get better and make a name for themselves in the NFL. That kind of competition can drive players to excellence and that is what we are looking for.

by Major on Jun 8, 2009 12:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Gilbride

We can’t forget.. that this offense he’s running is sorta out of character for him because he’s a run n’ shoot guy by trade.

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by Hoyadestroya85 on Jun 8, 2009 1:07 PM EDT reply actions  

But if you dig a little deeper...

You find that the Giants made 36 field goals(tied for the most in the league with the Pats). That stat leads me to believe that there where many TD opportunities that turned into field goals which is not very efficient. The Giants scored 42 offensive TD’s, if they could convert 10 field goals to TD’s this season then the offense could be dominant. There were too many missed opportunities last season and yet we were a top 3 offense.

by Major on Jun 8, 2009 1:15 PM EDT reply actions  

True ...

But, here is the question. How many of those do you put on Gilbride, how many of those do you put on players for not executing and how many of those do you just have to say ‘we ran the right play, but the defense came up big?’ I truly don’t know the answer to that one.

by Ed Valentine on Jun 8, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't answer that either

but I am searching for how many field goals were taken inside the 20 yard line. that should give an indication that those field goals could’ve been touchdowns. Player error, better defense from the opponent, etc can’t be quantified in any catagory other than to say it was a missed opportunity.

I agree with you that you really can’t put any of these stats on Gilbride because there are plays that he called that should’ve scored TD’s, like the famous Hixon drop.

by Major on Jun 8, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Pittsburgh game

What was it, 1st an goal and less than 2 yards to paydirt?

I’ll give credit where it’s due, Pitt’s D was admirable, but not neccessarily the norm! lol

by Hootman on Jun 8, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

You may not, Ed,

But some BBVers know exactly who is to blame. One guy, right? KB. For all of them. I mean everything. Hmmm. Is that possible?

by blue gonz on Jun 8, 2009 3:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah

KG is to blame for everything … field goals instead of touchdowns, the premium seat fiasco at Yankee Stadium, the screwed up U.S. auto industry, the high unemployment rate, brett favre, steroids in baseball, jon & kate’s marital troubles. Yep, blame it all on KG.

by Ed Valentine on Jun 8, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

the deli put spicy instead of regular mustard on my turkey wrap at lunch today

i’m pretty sure kevin gilbride owes me an explanation for that.

All of the mets fans hope that we will not see the bad news mets ever again.

by kendynamo on Jun 8, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gilbride

Dec. 16, 2007, 36 degrees and wind at 25 mph outside Giants Stadium. Gilbride calls 53 passes, Eli completes 18, the Giants score 10 on the Redskins and lose. How stupid does one have to be to call that many passes in a stadium notorious for swirling winds that also happens to be your home field? Dumbest game plan I’ve ever witnessed. Visitors are supposed to be susceptible to such lunacy at GS, certainly not the home team’s coordinator.

by NJBlue on Jun 14, 2009 1:06 PM EDT reply actions  

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