Giants Position Battles: WRs
In our continuing look at the position battles that will take place for the Giants in training camp, today we will take a look at the Wide Receivers:
Currently on the roster:
Ramses Barden, Taye Biddle, Shaun Bodiford, Derek Hagan, Domenik Hixon, Mario Manningham, Sinorice Moss, Hakeem Nicks, Micah Rucker, Steve Smith, David Tyree.
Quick Breakdown:
Ramses Barden: 3rd round pick, the Giants are looking at him to replace the "Lone Gunman" as Eli's big target. Can he avoid the dreaded "Giants 3rd round WR curse" is the big question.
Taye Biddle: Spent last season on the Giants practice squad, and that's the only way he collects a paycheck from the Giants this year as well. Also recovering from a shooting injury, not self-inflicted.
Shaun Bodiford: will be lucky to survive the first cuts. Not trying to be harsh, but the Giants are simply too deep at this position.
Derek Hagan: signed last year for depth after being cut by the Miami Dolphins. He is a former 3rd round pick of the Dolphins, with hands bad enough to play for the Mets.
Domenik Hixon: Coming into just his 4th season in the league, has excelled as a returner, and shown flashes when pressed into action on offense. I expect big things from Hixon this year.
Mario Manningham: I think Manningham needs to have a strong camp to make the team, after getting hurt early in training camp last year, falling behind, and contributing nothing all season long, unless you count that 78-yard loss on an end around against Philly.
Sinorice Moss: Speaking of guys who need to have a strong camp, this applies to no one more than Sinorice Moss. We've rarely seen him healthy, and when he has been healthy he hasn't produced much. I think the hourglass is out of sand here, time's up, Sinorice.
Hakeem Nicks: Looks like the Giants first round pick in 2009 will be given every opportunity to win the starting WR position.
Micah Rucker: The undrafted free agent from Eastern Illinois spent time on the Giants practice squad last season. A lot of people seem to see Rucker as a sleeper, his size and speed make him an attractive possibility. Could be a surprise on the roster in September.
Steve Smith: Rising star, and right now is Eli's most reliable target.
David Tyree: The Giants were able to delay an inevitable tough decision last season by placing Tyree on the IR after knee surgery. Unfortunately, I think Tyree and the Giants will part ways before the season starts. I think he has always been underrated as a WR, his Super Bowl heroics notwithstanding. He'll catch on somewhere.
I'm not going to project out the depth chart, too many variables with the WRs this season, so I will just give you who I expect to see on the roster:
Projected WRs on the roster:
Smith, Hixon, Nicks, Barden, Manningham, Rucker
Practice Squad:
Taye Biddle
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unless he's really awful
or vicodin pills are falling out of his shorts while he runs routes, i’m assuming the team won’t cut bait on Manningham this early.
i’m with you jrs, i think it’s far more likely that Moss gets cut.
by SBakerTheTouchdownMaker on May 23, 2009 9:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Micah?
C’mon, ‘jrs,’ do you really believe Rucker will make the team? Or, is that just a peace offering to ‘NY17’ so the two of you will stop fighting? LOL!!
by Ed Valentine on May 23, 2009 10:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it does kinda smell like Bait in here, doesn’t it???
BUT…,
since YOU Ed, have called JRS out on his selection, I would like to hear his reasoning? Maybe the research he did while preparing his infamous “Interview” post and the comments that came out of rookie camp about Micah have influenced his decision.
(Then again, the other possibility is that our GRAND POOHBAH is once AGAIN, instigating trouble amongst the readers he says he holds so dear!!!???)
by NY17NE14 on May 23, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather
have a proven guy like Tyree make the team than Rucker.. unless Rucker gets 400 receiving yards in preseason and has 15 special teams tackles.. I’d still rather take a chance on a pro bowl gunner and super bowl hero like Tyree.
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by Hoyadestroya85 on May 23, 2009 10:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
But, I think it is going to be very difficult for Tyree to make the team. Unless he shows he still has the athleticism to be a dynamic special teams player, and this far into his career that can’t be a given.
by Ed Valentine on May 23, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tyree
may be good on special teams, but I don’t think his gunner position was a problem last season, Terrel Thomas did a great job last season.
I also think that’s the reason for the 2 CB;s at the end of the draft and also a reason the Rashad dude will make the teams
As for Rucker, I think he may have a shot. I don’t know how much bigger he’s gotten, but given that the Giantsh have a “new Position” now maybe Rucker gets on as an H-back. I think they got that Wrighster guy too for that buy maybe Rucker shows something.
I think Manningham has NO SHOT of BEING CUT! No reason to cut bait yet.
And Moss is obviously being given a chance to make the team, so if he stays healthy I can’t see him being cut.
by FreeBradshaw on May 23, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
can’t hold on to Tyree forever because of one catch. Remember, we all thought there was a pretty good chance he could get cut last season before he went on IR
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on May 23, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair
He made TWO very important catches in that Super Bowl, not one.
by brisulph on May 25, 2009 7:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Totally agree
Tyree deserves a chance to show what he can do. He’s also among the most experienced receivers on the current roster. At the very least, keep him on the practice squad – just in case of injury.
by Ozzle on May 23, 2009 10:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hate when that happens.....
just cuz Tyree is in the league long doesn’t mean he’s experienced. He rarely played on O and only really was on the field in Steve Smith’s rook season cuz of Smith’s injury.
Tyree is a special teams player which is important. If anything, he makes the team cuz of that. He isn’t a good WR at all (miracle catch aside).
by FreeBradshaw on May 23, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Between Moss and Manningham, I hope Moss gets cut.
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by squid92 on May 23, 2009 11:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tyree’s impact has down on special teams since he made the Pro Bowl. Honestly, I just figured that every year there are a couple of surprises on the roster and Rucker may be one of them.
By the way, I knew Rucker was a no-win scenario, if I pick him for the roster I’m trying to make nice, if I pick him to get cut I’m just picking on him, LOL
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on May 23, 2009 11:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dear Mr. Hoya
I am curious about why you have so much confidence in Barden’s ability to come from a small school program and succeed in the NFL, yet Rucker doing the same is such a long shot? Braden had 50 TDs in 4 years, Rucker had 22 TDs in 2 years at Eastern Illinois which extrapolates out to 44 in 4 years. That’s only 1.5 TDs/ year difference!!
I repeatedly have seen on the web that it is expected for Braden to need 2 or 3 years in the NFL to reach his potential. Rucker is in his 2nd year. He’s already be through training camp once before. MG spoke of how “smooth” Micah looked on his route running at the rookie camp and complemented his run blocking as well.
MR’s experience is the key component in my interest in the kid. I’ve looked into him and feel he has the skills and an advantage going into camp this year. I didn’t just pick Rucker out of a racing form because I liked his name.
I’m not looking to piss you off here, but I don’t see why Barden gets a free pass and Rucker is this incredible longshot??
p.s.
You did see who won the Kentucky Derby, right??
by NY17NE14 on May 23, 2009 12:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
haha..
I think it’s different because Ramses played in a run heavy option offense where he was the only legitimate receiving target often facing double and sometimes triple teams. I’d be happy giving rucker a shot if he proves himself which he hasn’t done yet.
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by Hoyadestroya85 on May 23, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bruckarden
Barden will not exactly get a free pass, but he is a 3rd round pick which buys him some room. He also is an oustanding person per all the info out there along with the coaches impressions of him. It doesn’t hurt that he is very smart and has shown a huge upside. Sometimes an unknown quantity is a good thing to have on your side.
Rucker has a chance, but he’ll have to have a smokin’ camp to make the roster. He is more of a known entity, so it’s make or break.
Moss will pretty much have to disappear in camp to not make the team. In his few opportunities, last year, he made the best of them and the coaches like having one smaller speedster on the roster for the different dimension he brings. Don’t be surprised if he gets the #3 spot to start the season. I know, I’m just as surprised to see me writing this, but it’s true to everything I’ve read and heard.
Expect Manningham to make a leap this year, if he stays healthy. The kid has all the tools(he’s even smarter than anyone thinks). You don’t become a star at his alma mater without mad skills.
Nicks is going to be great. He will get the hang of the NY system and maybe even bust into the starting line up midway through the season.
Hixon and Smith are locks to stay on.
That, I believe, leaves Tyree. Expect him to come out fighting for his NY Giants life. He has always been a stud with the Specials and has flashed at times with the offense. He’s earned himself a chance, at the very least. He knows the offense and is the lone, true veteran receiver on the roster. However, if he practices like he did the Friday before the Superbowl, he’s a goner. You can’t drop that many balls in practice and keep a QB’s confidence in you.
If we carry 7 into the season, only one guy I’ve mentioned goes somewhere else. Otherwise, I think it’s Smith, Hixon, Manningham, Nicks, Barden and either Moss or Tyree.
Just my opinion, but you can’t put any of these seven on the practice squad(the rookies you can, but you will certainly lose Barden if you expose him and Nicks will definitely make the squad), but you can still stash Rucker there.
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by sunlion333 on May 23, 2009 2:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hear you 333 and what the others have to say about the "row Rucker's gonna have to hoe!!!"
My biggest fear about Rucker’s chances are that NYG spent a 3rd round pick and the pick they used to move up to get Barden.
( I resisted using the word BLEW instead of spent; I’d like to mention!!! )
Because NYG invested that much in Barden that makes letting him go pretty slim. If Rucker ends up on the PS and PITT has room, I’d bet $100 they take him back in a heartbeat!! They already said they wished they didn’t have to let him go. MR was a, need depth at other positions, casualty not a NO SKILL release.
And by the way, The CHIEFS signed Rucker to play BRANDON MARSHALL in practice the week before they played DENVER and then released him to take back the guy they just cut to make the room for MR. It wasn’t that Rucker “SUCKS” and can’t stay with a team like a lot of (ignorant) bloggers out on the web are saying about him!!!
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by NY17NE14 on May 23, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Moss and his development
I watched Moss in college, and this kid had skills.
I know its the big leagues and there’s a lot of different factors to think about but, to say that this is his final chance in the bigs leads me to think that the Gints didn’t develop him the way he needed to be.
I kow he was drafted a few years back, suffered some injuries, hasn’t been an impact, but where do skills die? Seriously? Hands – Confidence, quickness- age (though he’s not there in terms of we should be seeing a drop.. he’s younger than his brother and there’s nothing wrong with Santana). My feeling is that between his last year at Miami U, and now there has been something missing. Maybe he was informed he was going to have a bigger role, got injured and never regained the confidence he had in UM?
I think its a shame that he never really got on the field much and people are throwing in the towel on this guy. It;d be a shame for him to get cut, then sign somewhere and become something.
by Cruisin4aBruisin on May 23, 2009 3:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sinorice
I’m also a fan of the U, so I loved the Sinorice pick when the Giants made it, and I still think he’s got potential to be a decent receiver. He made a few nice plays last year, but for every good play he would catch a ball for a first down, then run backwards and get tackled behind the marker. He seriously did it at least twice, possibly three times, which is awful. It seemed like his head wasn’t always in the game.
by cjmulrain on May 23, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think back to last year
how we thought we had so much depth at WR and how the passing game was going to be so good with so many weapons. Not that we didn’t have an effective passing game, it just wasn’t what we expected with the Burress fiasco. In light of that, I wonder if we have great depth and a variety of weapons at WR this year, or just a lot of guys hoping to make the squad.
by TerraByte on May 23, 2009 5:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Question marks
Last year we had 2 proven starters – Burris, at the very least one of the 10 best in the league, and Toomer, perhaps the best receiver in Giants history, even if his skill was declining.
Smith, Hixon, Moss, and Manningham were very good depth
This year, we really don’t have a proven starter
by NYERinSF on May 23, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Taye Biddle
I’m a big fan of Biddle following him since highschool. He has big play potential. I would love to see him suprise everyone and make a contribution to the Giants. You never know the next big thing! Maybe it’s him.
by RIPShea on May 23, 2009 8:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
THERE YA GO RIP...!!!!
Who knows where the next Micah Rucker is gonna come from…!!!!
Biddle on one side; Rucker on the other…
GOOD to hear from ya!!!
by NY17NE14 on May 23, 2009 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then again
Maybe Biddle takes Rucker’s roster spot. LOL!!
by Ed Valentine on May 24, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Couldn't leave that one alone, could you, Ed?
Is taunting a penalty on this board?
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by sunlion333 on May 24, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure it is
Unless I’m doing the taunting! I just can’t help pushing ‘NY17s’ buttons just a little. It’s too easy. But, yeah, I should stop.
by Ed Valentine on May 24, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Oh, please..."
" But, yeah, I should stop." -Ed
Yeah right, like that’s really gonna happen. We both know that if it wasn’t for the arrival of NY17 & Rucker, BBV won’t be getting the national recognition that it does today. First it was getting on SI.com, then Mike Garafolo, GIANTS.COM, who knows where this could lead??
Readers tune in daily just to see what kind of verbal abuse NY’s going to have to repel today. I can take the abuse, but you really should try to be a little more honest with your readers. Ruckers watching you know??
by NY17NE14 on May 25, 2009 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
I find it all rather annoying and detracting from an otherwise top notch read.
by brisulph on May 25, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry to hear that you find our posts as annoying and distracting!!
We’ve been beating this WR horse since the Plaxico incident and have come to take the issue a little less serious then you still do.
We’re merely trying to have a little fun and pass the boring off season away. Once things get rolling again, there will be plenty of time to be dead serious. Until then, please try to have a sense of humor and maybe you’ll even get a laugh or two out the place.
by NY17NE14 on May 25, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is a sense of humour
But when a post about the WR battle centers around a guy who has never even been dressed (as opposed to guys like Moss or Manningham who have caught balls for this team), it gets old. It is sort of like an internet meme, it is quite funny at first, and then it starts to balloon up so more people know about it, and then all of a sudden it is everywhere you look, detracting from all corners of a site, becoming incredibly annoying and disruptive. I have a sense of humour, it was funny when it came up occasionally, but this joke officially jumped the shark during the fake main page post Ed made about you stealing Rucker’s cell phone.
Why not discuss the merits of Rucker the football player? Why not discuss what he brings to the table instead of recycling this “he’s the greatest WR to never catch a ball” gimmick you like to make use of? How about some football talk? I am guessing at least a few others have to be getting sick of this as well, but if not, I will shut my mouth and leave it be.
by brisulph on May 26, 2009 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Listen Trouble-Maker!!!!
Sun333 thinks you desevere a taunting penalty , well I think you should get another 5 minutes for instigating!!!
(JRS can translate the hockey terminology for ya there Ed)
Another FINE example you’re setting for the troops, there bossman!!!
by NY17NE14 on May 24, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too early for this...
It sounds like people r throwing names around just so they can say “I told u so” as soon as one becomes the next big thing at the Meadowlands. Every Giants fan is going to be looking at these receivers under a microscope, but we’ll have nothing to view until preseason is over. Hixon had us licking our chops after the preseason game against the Browns, and I’m very much looking forward to seeing who’s ready to step up this year.
by YankeeDudeL on May 25, 2009 3:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We have already looked at our WRs eight ways to Sunday
We’ll have plenty to discuss during OTA’s and early training camp before we even have a preseason game. As for throwing names around and saying " I told u so"
I sure that over time you’ll find the posters here are a more mature group than that.
by NY17NE14 on May 25, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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