Spotlight: Kenny Phillips
The New York Giants drafted Kenny Phillips with their No. 1 pick in the 2008 NFL Draft hoping that he would become the next in a long line of great safeties from the University of Miami.
With James Butler now in St. Louis, and only Michael Johnson and free-agent signee C.C. Brown as other proven options at safety, the Giants will need Phillips to begin fulfilling that prophesy in 2009.
I think most members of our community are in love with what Phillips could become, or at least what we want him to be.
Here is what I wrote about KP while reviewing the 2008 Draft back in February.
Phillips was, and still is, looked at as the next great player in the long line of safeties to come out of the University of Miami. That list includes Ed Reed, Sean Taylor and Brandon Meriweather.
Phillips proved to be a hard hitter and a sure tackler as a rookie with the Giants. I am not sure, though, that he played the number of snaps or made the type of overall impact the Giants hoped for when they made him the first safety selected in last year's draft.
That said, though, I see no reason to be anything other than optimistic about Phillips' future with the Giants. ...
Phillips is part of an excellent young core of players the Giants have in their secondary. I expect him to be an impact player for a long time, and to make a few Pro Bowls before he is done.
I still believe those words. As the off-season has progressed, however, a couple of things have nagged at me when I think about Phillips.
One is why couldn't he take more snaps away from the adequate, but somewhat slow-footed Butler last season?
Was it simply because then-defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo had a comfort level with the veteran Butler, who had been making calls in his system for two seasons? Maybe that's the case since Spags wasted no time bringing Butler to St. Louis to help him rebuild that team's porous defense.
Or, and this is the thing I don't want to think about, was Phillips' play just not good enough?
Here is what safeties coach David Merritt said in summarizing Phillips' rookie season.
Kenny, as far as a safety, I think he is right there on task as being the player that we want him to be in the future. And not to speak negatively about what he did with the other teams, other than what he has done with……safety, but I don’t think he met our expectations when it came to special teams. And that is just being honest. I think he could have done a little more and I think this year he will do a little more. Although you have an opportunity to possibly become a starter this year, you still are not exempt from special teams. But as far as the rookie safety …. I think he probably had one or two starts. He did okay. He did okay. Now he has a long way to go. The kid is 218 pounds right now. He is a well built young man who is working hard here. But as far as meeting my expectations for him, no, I would love to see him make the Pro Bowl, just as I would love to see all of my guys make the Pro Bowl. But he had a solid rookie season.
Maybe I am reading something that isn't there, but that feels like a lukewarm assessment of Phillips' play in 2008.
The Giants need Phillips to become the player they were hoping for when they drafted him. The 2009 season should go a long way toward telling us if that is the player he will ultimately become.
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Don't read into Merritt
50 solo tackles and 1 interception when only starting a couple times is nothing to sneeze at. Dave Merritt is probably the most forthcoming coaches we have, so I wouldn’t read that as much of a negative than as a challenge to KP. In a rookie year, a players mind is swimming and he has to think too much. Look for Phillips to take a giant leap this year with his play becoming more instinct and less thought. He’ll be fine and look for the UDFA Rashad to get some snaps and possibly supplant Johnson by next year. We may have the scariest Safety tandem in the league by then.
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And to add
Any athletic advantage he may have had over Butler, he presumably lacked the knowledge of the defense or secondary alignment calls. Given Butler was the veteran, and KP the rookie, no reason to force the issue and put KP into a situation that he could make mistakes, thus losing self confidence. It sounds like DM thought, KP was right there, but he would like to see more of this or more of that. Hence, buying time to give KP the neccessary reps, but in a more reserved fashion and going with the safer option in Butler!
whoa....
I agree with most of that, but UDFA Rashad to replace Michael Johnson???? Why????
MJ and Kenny Phillips will make the scariest tandem if anything. I doubt the Giants will let Johnson go unless his contract demands will be too large.
As for Phillips….Im pretty sure ALL the other Miami FS struggles a bit just like Phillips in their rookie year. Its extremely rare to get a player who comes in at safety and excels. I would have to give credit to the Skins safety Chris Horton cuz he came in and DID excel last season as a rook, he should be one to watch out for too this season as he gets better.
by FreeBradshaw on May 21, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of Johnson
To whom it may concern:
The roster link for the S Michael Johnson (in BBV’s system), takes you to a C Michael Johnson, who is 6-3, 296lbs. and is 27 years old.
That’s a bit hefty for a S. lol
LOL!!
He’s the Hefty Lefty of safeties. I’ll see if I can get the tech gurus to look into it, though. Thanks for pointing it out.
by Ed Valentine on May 21, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Motivation
I think part of what Merrit said is simple candor. Phillips played well, but he didn’t dominate. But I also think it’s partly motivational. Merrit knows that this will get back to Phillips and probably make him work harder to be the player he has the talent to be.
As for Johnson, I think he’s a good player but he’s not a star. The Giants should be bringing in people to compete for that spot. That will be extra motivation for Johnson to up his game, or we’ll find out that the new guy is better. You never know for sure who you’re going to be able to keep and so you always want to have somebody young and hungry waiting in the wings.
by Tucker Fredrickson on May 21, 2009 11:50 AM EDT reply actions
Let the Phillips era begin
Hey guys…long time reader, very recent commenter. I have to jump in on this one. I think Kenny Philips first season was outstanding. 50 tackles yes, but how many of them were wrapping up a receiver on 3rd down, allowing NO YAC, preventing the first, and forcing a punt? I think he had 4 or 5 of those plays in the two Redskins games alone. How about the play against Arizona, knocking the ball out of Fitzgerald’s hands after a sure TD? How about the coverage against Torry Holt on the St Louis TD? Holt caught that ball on a brilliant play (I still think Kenny had the INT), but Phillips had great coverage and would’ve no doubt stopped the play if he just knocked the ball down.
What are my memories of Butler? Sure INT’s clanging off his pads, getting turned the wrong way in coverage again and again… I’m not gonna miss him. I’m really looking forward to seeing Kenny as the starter this year.
Phillips Stacks up?
I was curious of the players mentioned what their Rookie year stats were, below are the results courtesy of NFL.com:
Ed Reed – 75 tckls 14 assists, 1 sack, 1 pick, 1 fumble
Sean Taylor – 60 tckls 16 assists, 1 sack, 0 pick
B. Meriweather – 18 tckls 9 assists, 0 sack, 0 pick
C. Horton – 57 tckls 19 Assists, 1 sack, 3 picks
Now I’ll contradict myself…Great Giant players have always been the over achievers, workers. Stas and talent to be sure but being in the Big Blue means heart, we’ve had our superstars but they tend to be big hearted guys that the fans rally around; Bavaro, Morris, Meggett, Simms, Carson, etc. I think that is more what they want to see from Phillips, the talent is there but can he temper it into something consistant and great, not flashy (see one Shockey, Jeremy). Prove it in all aspects of the game. That’s what I think Merritt was trying to evoke in Phillips.
Good player ? Yes. Playmaker ? Don't think so
I’ve asked this question in every thread featuring K.Philipps : What makes you think he will be a playmaker ? Ed Reed, S.Taylor, even Merriweather were big time playmakers in college, K.Phillips clearly wasn’t. He’s a good player, but I don’t think he will ever become an All Pro type of player. To me, he’s G.Wilson part 2.
Just curious
but why do you think he was such a non-playmaker? If you look at his college stats, he didn’t pick off alot of passes but he made a hell of alot of tackles. The guy is not Ed Reed, but not everyone can be a future HOFer. He chief skill is that he is one of the most sure tacklers to come out of college in a long time. He will wrap up backs out of the backfield and blow up receivers across the middle. As long as he does run in the wrong direction like
Butler I will be happy.
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by bigbluethruandthru on May 21, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
In his defense..
K-Pax didn’t have Jonathan Vilma, Phillip Buchanan, Vince Wilfork, William Joseph, Jerome McDougle, DJ Williams, Antrel Rolle, and Ed Reed with him on defense like Sean Taylor. The best guys Phillips had were Tavares Gooden, Calais Campbell and Brandon Merriweather. I don’t think Phillips will be a FS for too long.. i think he’s gonna end up an in the box blitzer a-la Rodney Harrison or a Dawkins type. But I don’t think he’ll be a coverage liability either.
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by Hoyadestroya85 on May 21, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with this
Phillips isn’t a ball-hawk, he’s a hitter. Hopefully he ends up like Harrison or Dawkins and not Roy Williams.
You guys
are crazy…….CC brown and KP are gonna be our safties. Look at browns stats with the texans. Mark my words those two will be our safties and 2 very scary ones at that!
CC Brown
is a coverage liability.. what makes you think that if he was yanked out of the lineup for the texans that he’s good enough to start for one of the best defenses in the NFL?
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by Hoyadestroya85 on May 22, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I will mark those words
I could care less about a safeties stats. If a safety has less tackles, it means that the LB’s and D-Lineman got there first, which is better cuz the ballcarrier didn’t gain enough yards to get there.
CC Brown is the backup, nothing more.
Here’s why he’s the backup, Michael Johnson. I don’t know if he is a """pro-bowler""", but he’s a solid player and should be the starter this season and in the future. I can’t believe anyone would even think otherwise.
by FreeBradshaw on May 23, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions

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