New York Giants' notes, 04.28.09

by Ed Valentine on Apr 28, 2009 11:00 AM EDT in News Comment 20 comments

Here are a few stories of interest for New York Giants' fans on a post-draft Tuesday.

Newsday says that one reason the Giants used their first two picks on Hakeem Nicks and Clint Sintim is that both players were in pro-style systems in college. Theoretically, that gives scouts a better read and players an easier adjustment.

"When scouts come through here, the feedback we always get is that they are thankful to come in and watch an offense that looks like an NFL offense," said Tar Heels coach Butch Davis, a former NFL coach who employs a pro-style offense in college. "They saw Hakeem (Nicks) run every single route that any NFL coordinator could ask him to run."

General Manager Jerry Reese was on WFAN Monday to discuss the draft. Here is the audio. 'Kudos' to Big Blue Interactive for the find.
UDFA Maurice Evans, a defensive end from Penn State, is hoping to put some rough times the past couple of seasons behind him, and forge an NFL career. Evans was suspended for several games for drug use prior to last season.

"I don't have any regrets," the former Christ the King star said of his early jump to the pros. "I've got my foot in the door. What happened in the draft is irrelevant.

"I just want to show them what I can do," Evans said. "And even though I'm not [angry], I want to show other teams what I'm about. I'm not criticizing anybody, but I'm confident in my abilities."

Michael Lombardi of the National Football Post had an interesting take on the Giants' draft.

I’m not in love with Hakeem Nicks, but I always love the Giants’ draft. If there was one team that always had a direct hit on players I liked, it was the Giants. They’re a size-speed team and they just keep fixing the lines. The Giants and Pats had the best offseasons, and this draft will be a redshirt draft for them with the exception of Nicks.

Otis Wiley, the Michigan State free safety signed as a UDFA, was listed as the second-best undrafted player by Scout.com.
The Fifth Down has an interesting scientific breakdown of Nicks and Sintim. It debunks the idea that Nicks is just a possession receiver.

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Can someone clarify this

They’re a size-speed team and they just keep fixing the lines. The Giants and Pats had the best offseasons, and this draft will be a redshirt draft for them with the exception of Nicks.

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Apr 28, 2009 11:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

that he sees the Giants as continuing to draft and sign consistent with what they deem to be good overall, longterm schemes on offense and defense. They keep strengthening and filling in at their strengths (the lines and RBs and the pass rush) and look for receivers who are good enough to keep their offensive scheme rolling (pound it down their throats, throw enough to keep it the box open). Because they stay with their schemes, rather than drift without a “theme,” they can have drafts where they don’t need any of the guys to star as rookies (redshirts), though this is not quite true re WRs this year.

by providence on Apr 28, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks

Thats what I suspected, the Stintim and Beatty picks seemed to have garnered a lot of positive press

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Apr 28, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm just glad

That someone broke down the numbers on Nicks. I live in Carolina so of course I see a lot of highlights from the ACC. I’ve said before, Nicks is the real deal and we will be pleasantly surprise at how he is going to do.

by njgiant on Apr 28, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nicks

Personally I think if the Giants simply drop fewer balls and make some athletic plays in the red zone we will be happy. I think some of these guys will help in that area.

by Ed Valentine on Apr 28, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I took that to mean

that they think with the exception of Nicks, ALL the rest of teh draft picks are going to redshirt, and you won’t see them till next year.

I think that is FAR from teh plan. Beatty is the only one picked before Bomar that is going to sit for the year and learn, only cuz of the obvious fact that there are no holes on the O-Line, but even he could play in an injury situation.

But Nicks could start, Sintim could start, Barden is gonna play and be used situationally, maybe more as the season progresses, Beckum should start (and create a new position for the Giants, H-BacK!)if Gilbride reads the other pages of the playbook, and Andre Brown is going to battle it out with Ward and Bradshaw.

I doubt the plan is for anyone other than Beatty to Not play some. Andre Brown if he doesn’t win out a RB spot will return kicks possibly.

by FreeBradshaw on Apr 28, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

UDFAs

I’ve seen elsewhere that you can’t really trust these UDFAs signings until they show up to rookie camp because often times the player is doing the reporting or they might get “offered” a deal, but it never goes through.

Anyway, here is a big case in point. Otis Wiley has also reportedly been signed by the Lions:

http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2009/04/lions_sign_msu_safety_otis_wil.html

I think we won’t know who we really signed until later.

by potroast on Apr 28, 2009 2:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

True

I saw that earlier today as well. Ah, you can just go with the best info you have and see who shows up at the rookie mini-camp. Obviously, I know zilch about these players, but Wiley sounded like a guy worth taking a flier on.

by Ed Valentine on Apr 28, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Otis “sounds” way better than Stoney what’s his name. Why not pick Otis with the last pick? Now you’ve got to worry about whether the Lions of all teams signed him. Well, JR has his reasons……

by providence on Apr 28, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs