Assessing -- but not grading -- the Giants' draft
by Ed Valentine on Apr 27, 2009 6:00 AM EDT
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I am not going to try and grade the New York Giants' draft class. Immediate draft grades are meaningless, and I won't go there.
That said, I know everyone has an opinion on how General Manager Jerry Reese fared over the weekend.
I love what the Giants tried to do Saturday and Sunday. I admit that I thought a Braylon Edwards trade would happen, or that the Giants would rade picks and move up into the middle of the first round. I am surprised the Giants ended up making as many picks as they did.
Personally, though, I am very happy with the results. Let's take a closer look.
The Receivers
No, the Giants did not get Edwards or Anquan Boldin, the big-name guys we have been discussing for weeks. They did not trade up in the first round to get Jeremy Maclin, which the Eagles did, or to gamble on Darrius Heyward-Bey. But, I think what Reese tried to do in collecting new targets for Eli Manning was exactly the right approach. He recognized that with Eli at the helm, and the swirling winds and bad weather the Giants often play in, their passing game will never be about precision. They need receivers who can go get the ball in traffic, who can adjust to balls not thrown perfectly, and who have the size, strength and hands to make difficult catches in the Red Zone.
Hakeem Nicks -- Truthfully, this is the guy I was hoping for all along. His coach at North Carolina, Butch Davis, compared him to Michael Irvin.
“(Nicks) is a big, physical kid with the ability to run routes and the ability to catch the ball with bodies all over him,” Davis said. “In the NFL defenders will press you, jam you, and he has the ability to catch balls with people draped on him as well as the ability to push off. I’ve seen Michael do that for many years, just use a little elbow to get some separation and make the catch.”
Forget Plaxico Burress for a second. If Nicks has a career somewhat resembling that of Amani Toomer with the Giants we will be pretty happy with that, don't you think?
Ramses Barden -- With his freakish size (6-foot-6, 229 pounds) Barden is the guy who could make this a special draft for the Giants. ESPN's Matt Mosley considered the Barden selection the riskiest draft move by any of the NFC East teams. It's a risk, however, that -- pardon the pun -- could pay huge dividends.
Reese felt strongly enough about him to pull off his only trade of the day Sunday to make sure Barden became a Giant.
Well, we wanted to move up because we really like this guy. We really think he has a huge upside. So we had an opportunity not to give up a lot to move up so we gave up the second five and we moved up a few slots to secure him. So we thought that was the right thing to do. We wouldn’t do that unless we thought this guy had tremendous upside.
Travis Beckum -- Another big guy with excellent hands who can help the short and mid-range passing game, annd hopefully be a factor in the Red Zone. Tom Coughlin was excited by the selection because he said Beckum's skill set is different than any of the other tight ends on the Giants' roster.
It’s another aspect of matchup problems. A lot of speed. It’s going to be very difficult for a safety or a linebacker to be in position to cover this guy. Obviously you’re not going to be able to utilize him in the same way that all four of those lined up tight ends are going to be utilized. But, we always have had a move guy. We’ve always had people that have had to play the back-up fullback position. It allows you to do any number of things right off the top where you’d have Kevin Boss in the game and Beckum. Perhaps you could even envision him as the tight end in the game with the receivers when it’s clearly a third down situation. Again, all of those things are in front of him. We’re very excited and interested in putting this particular aspect of personnel on the field and having an opportunity to recognize it as something we can develop.
The Second Round
The first round gets all the attention and all the glamor, but success in the second round is critical. I thought the Giants did a good job with both second-round selections. It would have been nice if Rey Maualuga had fallen all the way to the Giants, but Clint Sintim has a chance to be an excellent outside linebacker. William Beatty is a guy many envision sliding in at left tackle within a couple of seasons, possibly allowing David Diehl to move back inside or to right tackle.
The Other Guys
Reese called running back Andre Brown "very, very similar to Derrick Ward." The Giants took a fourth-round running back a few years ago who has worked out pretty well. Let's hope this move works out the way the Brandon Jacobs selection has. ... Rhett Bomar will compete with Andre Woodson for the third quarterback slot, and this is a good gamble by the Giants. Who knows, by 2010 David Carr might be elsewhere and Eli's backups could be Woodson and Bomar. The last two picks, corners DeAndre Wright and Stoney Woodson are guys who, if they stick, would likely be special teams contributors.
Your thoughts?
The Picks
- 1 (29th) — WR Hakeem Nicks, North Carolina (6-1, 212)
- 2a (45th) — LB Clint Sintim, Virginia (6-2, 256)
- 2b (60th) — LT William Beatty (6-6, 291)
- 3a (85th) — WR Ramses Barden, Cal-Poly (6-6, 229)
- 3b (100th) — TE Travis Beckum, Wisconsin (6-3, 243)
- 4 (129th) — RB Andre Brown, North Carolina State (6-0, 224)
- 5 (151st) — QB Rhett Bomar, Sam Houston State (6-2, 224)
- 6 (200th) — CB DeAndre Wright, New Mexico (5-11, 198)
- 7 (238th) — CB Stoney Woodson, South Carolina (5-11, 196)
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I like all the picks
From Nicks to Brown, all great picks. Im happy about them all. The final three were kinda head scratchers, but in round 5 on it really doesn’t matter especially when you drafted like the did before that. But Bomar was the Giants highest player on the board, and apparently the last 2 CB’s are very fast, good size and they just took a shot. Got no problem with that.
Travis Beckum is my favorite. It gives the Giants a weapon they haven’t had at least in my time watching the Giants.
Hopefully my ideas and even Reese and Coughlin’s ideas of how to use him are not made moot by Gilbride.
I know KG’s head’s spinning right now with all these receivers, but he needs to get back in the lab and cook some stuff up with these guys.
by FreeBradshaw on Apr 27, 2009 6:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
As for the Giants passing on Maualuga
Im glad at that. Im dissappointed tho cuz I was so mad when they passed, but when you look at the reasons he fell so far, its more than enough to pass.
Now of course Rey could be the steal of the draft, but right now you just couldn’t take a chance on a 2-down MLB who’s slow and doesn’t really tackle well like a MLB should. I know that’s kind of the definition of Antonio Pierce, but AP at least is very smart pre-snap and is definitely the leader of the defense.
As for not getting a ‘veteran WR’. Id only settle for Boldin, cuz while he played in a pass happy O, he did put up numbers and is a real tough WR. But the fact he wants a gigantic contract probably deaded that, even for a 2nd rounder.
Edwards I didn’t want either. Yea he looks like Plax, but IS he Plax?/ No, he had one good season and he too is looking for a contract. WHY are the Browns trying to trade him anyway?? They put him on the block first as far as I know, so Im glad they didn’t trade any of these picks for him.
I said it before, but Id rather have a lot of options on offense than one guy. If they trade for BE, that probably would mean no Nicks / Ramses and or Andre Brown/Beckum. They could all bust, but I think they have as much potential as Edwards. Especially since they are starting out with the Giants organization and JR’s track record/
YOu don’t give up the farm for one player, especially in football. The Giants are built to win now, but even with not a single addition after the FA signings, they are built to win anyway.All these draft picks are just luxuries and building for the future.
by FreeBradshaw on Apr 27, 2009 6:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dont forget Beatty
He wil be our LT for the future
by gobs56 on Apr 27, 2009 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Surprised Barden is getting so much love here
I suspect that one is not going to work that well (hope I am wrong though).
by brisulph on Apr 27, 2009 7:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Only time will tell
which, really, is the case with all the picks.
by Ed Valentine on Apr 27, 2009 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2yrs in a row
And we have had everyone of our draft picks do good things for us… why stop it now?
by gobs56 on Apr 27, 2009 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he will be good but
he body catches too much. Even against smaller DB’s at the NFL level he will get a lot knocked away trying to body catch.
by GullySully77 on Apr 27, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I liked the draft strategy too
They couldn’t work a reasonable trade without giving too much, so they filled up on receivers that could contribute right away (i.e. Nicks) or have tons of potential (i.e. Barden), while all of them being able to get after the ball in traffic. Plus with Barden, they immediately got a guy that can go up & get that ball in the “green zone”. I think he might be of tremendous value in that way right away. Just what Eli needed. I love it. I also love the Beatty pick. We didn’t need someone to contribute right away here & this guy needs some work, but also has potential written all over him. Hopefully our LT of the future.
Like the Sintim pick, but since he’s an outside LB this automatically makes it that much more important that Goff makes good progress to take AP’s place. There is a lot of potential at LB now between Sintim, Kiehl, & Goff. Sintim will make a nice strong side LB in that group. We’ll have to keep our fingers crossed that it all works out.
by potroast on Apr 27, 2009 8:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I love
the Beckum pick along with Ramses of course. But Beckum provides a big NFL ready target. Hopefully Pope can teach him to block
It's not easy being Giants fan in Philly.. but it sure is satisfying
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by Hoyadestroya85 on Apr 27, 2009 8:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Picks seem good, but not great
I think the real disappointment I have with the Giants is that they did not trade up for Maclin, and it looks even worse that he went to a division rival. As for being happy if Nicks has a career like Toomer, I would have to disagree. Unlike Toomer, I would hope that Nicks becomes a true No.1 or at least makes the pro-bowl once. Having a career like Toomer is not bad, but they could have tried to get players that would have better careers (Boldin, Edwards, maybe Maclin). By the Giants not making any “major” moves in this draft it shows they believe in Eli to get the job done.
by mymanren on Apr 27, 2009 8:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's all conjecture
First round receivers are hit or miss. Nicks and Maclin could both be great or they could both be busts or any combination thereof. What I like is that the Giants drafted receivers who are more likely to be successful with Eli’s skills and in Giants stadium than I think Maclin woukd be. Maclin gives you a speedy deep threat, but Eli doesn’t throw the world’s best deep ball, and when it’s windy in Giants stadium, trying for the deep ball is a disastrous strategy — as we all learned in the playoffs last year. Nicks, Barden and Beckum are all guys who can outcompete corners and safties for inacurately thrown intermediate passes and who can do some damage if they catch the ball in stride.
Maclin was a great pick for the Eagles because they have a QB who throws a great deep ball, but just hasn’t had many receivers who could get open down the field. But in the end we’ll just have to see how it all plays out on the field.
by Tucker Fredrickson on Apr 27, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very good analysis.
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by squid92 on Apr 27, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like these picks
While I would have liked to get Edwards, in the grand scheme of things, everything played out just fine. Edwards would have required the ball thrown to him X number of times and we all know that means some forced throws. Without Edwards, Eli will focus on spreading the ball more. These kids are good character kids and I hope will have the same attitude that Boss had when the ball wasn’t being tossed his way early on.
In time, I think Barden will do what we want and that’s to draw double coverage and open things up for the other receivers and the running game. If he proves he can run a route and catch the ball, I can’t see a team sticking a midget corner on this guy 1 on 1. Hicks is the real deal and I think will be a bigger, more explosive version of Steve Smith. He’ll get YAC. Will be waiting to see how Gilbride uses Beckum and how this guy will effect the running game also. As far as the running game, I really like the Andre Brown selection. We’ve got 2 bruisers and to quick backs, very nice change of pace.
Beatty was a great pick and will not be forced into the lineup too soon. He comes into a great situation as in he’ll get to learn and study from one of if not the best line in football. Should be solid when his time comes.
Clint Sintim, love his size and hope that he can get after the QB as well as he did in college. Overall, I think a good draft. Needs were met and filled. We look good on paper!
by njgiant on Apr 27, 2009 8:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ramses Barden
In waching the clip posted, Barden reminds me a little of Plax, a tall receiver that, I hope, Manning may feel comfortable throwing to in that Barden can outreach the defender. While Manning spread the passing around to multiple targets last year, I think he likes having a fall back receiver that he can throw high to with a lower risk on interception.
by coops2001 on Apr 27, 2009 9:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Still not buying this draft
This team is built to win now. Eli and Jacobs are entering their primes, the lines are still healthy and our young DBs are blossoming, but we’ve lost our biggest weapon in Burress and to date, he has not been replaced.
Look at how the team changed from the moment Plax signed here, we finally had a legitimate threat at WR and the teams offense exploded. So now where stuck with a bunch of number 2’s, if that. Smith is the only one amongst that group who has any sort of track record.
Hixon is an overachiever and Manningham/Moss are about as unproven as they come. At this point, Id almost advocate singing Marvin Harrison to fill Toomers role.
Its hard not to trust Reese’s judgment ,considering what hes done in his previous drafts, but I think he blew an opportunity here. The 29th overall pick is not too much to give up for either Boldin or Edwards, particularly the latter b/c he’s still fairly young and has the size Eli had grown accustomed to
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Apr 27, 2009 9:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You are correct...
The Giants are built to win now. But, there are two factors still in place. The running game and the defense. Even before the draft, the offense was probably still good enough to win with. With saying that, i think we did the right thing by NOT, getting AB or BE. Assuming we wouldn’t be able to get some of the players that we would have to give up in picks.
With the WR’s and TE’s we already have, Nicks, Barden and Beckum will only diversify the offense more. Whereas AB or BE, (not saying they’re bad) could or would create an atmosphere of forcing the issue! Even though they’re rookies, what they can offer now with their personal skills and IF, used properly, they will be able to contribute.
Now if Gilbride will get rid of that bubble screen, or whatever you call, that would be a good start! lol
by Hootman on Apr 27, 2009 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im not so sure about that
With no real threat in the passing game, teams have the luxury of keying on Jacobs. This team has no game breakers outside of BJ and, to a lesser extent, Bradshaw. The receiving options are far from impressive…..they might as well be trotting out Rodney Hampton, Chris Calloway and Toomer again.
The team before and after the signing of Plax are night and day, and we no longer have any true game breaking threat amongst the receiving core.
Dont get me wrong, I love Steve Smith, I think hes great at what he does, but are we really relying on a rookie to fill in Plax’s role?
And to think that Barden will be good simply b/c hes tall is foolish. Reese had the opportunity to replace Burress with two options, both of whom were more athletic than Plax to boot and he didnt pull the trigger, and Im afraid the offense will suffer and become stagnant
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Apr 27, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The running game will actually help these receivers
I also think that Philly regards our receiving corps a little higher than some here (trading for Hobbs to sure up their secondary). I can’t see teams still trying to load the box on us. Nicks has hands, good speed and is physical enough to break single one on one tackles. Barden on the other hand is just too tall to stick on a island with a small db. His size alone will gain attention.
We also don’t know how hard these guys are working. Boss has progressed each year. Who’s to say his game won’t step up this year. I think that the WR’s will work that much harder now because the competition was kicked up a notch. I would have liked Edwards but I still think we will be just fine. Hicks is the real deal.
by njgiant on Apr 27, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jason Cole on Yahoo
sounded convinced afterwards that the Giants would still trade for Boldin or Edwards.
by providence on Apr 27, 2009 9:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
just like JR said
but not for any of the new guys tho. Maybe Hixon is more expendable now??
by FreeBradshaw on Apr 27, 2009 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
clarify --
he sounded convinced that they still needed to trade for one of them, not that they will. He did not buy either Nicks or Barden as a step in……considering how few rookie WRs really excel in their first year (name some who have), it’s hard to disagree with this, or with bren’s point above re how things changes when Plax arrived.
by providence on Apr 27, 2009 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rookies have stepped in
Jerry Rice 49 rec, 927 yards, 3 tds. Also the G.O.A.T.
Randy Moss (pure monster) 69 rec, 1313 yds, 17 tds. Rookie record
Marvin Harrison 64 rec, 836 yds, 8tds
Keyshawn Johnson, (Keyshawn Johnson people), 63 rec, 844 yds, 8tds
Anquan Boldin (another monster Rookie season) 101 rec, 1377 yds, 8tds
On the lower end and it was still better than our guys
Larry Fitzgerald, 58 rec, 780yds, 8tds
Torry Holt, 52 rec, 788yds, 6tds
Rookies can produce and Hicks should fall in the catagory of Holt and Fitzgerald’s rookie seasons
by njgiant on Apr 27, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right on target
Just look at last year too. Desean Jackson singlehandedly kept the Eagles offense highly productive last year when a lot of their receivers were injured, as was Westbrook. Similarly, in Denver, Royal put up very good numbers. If you throw the young guys out there I don’t see any reason why they can’t be productive — you just may have to live with some mistakes that a veteran wouldn’t make. In 2007 we threw Steve Smith into the mix in the latter stages of the sseason, even though he hadn’t had many reps due to injury and he made some big catches.
by Tucker Fredrickson on Apr 27, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a good post, that's more good rookie seasons than I recalled.
but, again, that’s maybe ten guys in the last 20 years. But if we put those numbers in a practical context, it would be interesting to see how many of the guys cited here came in as #2 WRs to establised #1’s? I mean how many rookies are THE guy for their teams?
Chris Carter was the #1 guy for the Vikes when Moss arrived, and Dwight Clark was the guy for the 49ers when Rice got there; Holt was #2 to Isaac Bruce….. Hicks won’t have that level of help. It does raise at least the question of whether they should still deal for Edwards.
by providence on Apr 27, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they're any good, they grow up quickly
I hear your point about it being easier to develop a young receiver when there’s a true number one on the field, but look at Desean Jackson last year. For the first half of the season Curtis was hurt and the Eagles receiver rotation was Jackson, Baskett and Avant. Jackson put up 900 yards and emerged as the best receiver on the team. The other two guys were stiffs and had less combined catches than Jackson. I think if a receiver is the real deal there’s no reason he can’t perform well the first year. Most teams try to break the new guys in slowly and they don’t get many reps. It’s hard to find your groove when you’re only on the field for 8-10 plays a game.
The Giants new receivers have one advantage. Because of the running game, defenses will be playing 8 men in the box a lot and they won’t have to face double coverage much. I think we’ll find out fast if Nicks is the real deal.
by Tucker Fredrickson on Apr 27, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But they're still in one of the most dynamic offenses in football.
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by squid92 on Apr 27, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bomar
even in the universe of draft crap shoots, the Bomar pick seems like the biggest one to me…..
by providence on Apr 27, 2009 9:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I actually really like the Bomar pick.
You know how expensive QBs are. This way, we develop one or two behind Eli who could eventually be traded for a King’s ransom (considering how prized QBs are) or even replace Eli in the future (hopefully not soon or even probably any of these two, but still).
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by squid92 on Apr 27, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no value for backups
Unless Eli ever misses a game
knock on wood
by queler on Apr 27, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's a HUGE
unless. Prior to last year the only three QB’s who had gone longer w/o getting hurt and missing games were Favre, Peyton, and Brady. Favre’s gone (and really should have been benched late last year, it was obvious his shoulder was too hurt for him to be effective), and look what happened to Brady. Not having a backup torpedoed the Cowboys season. We can’t just assume Eli will stay healthy forever.
by cjmulrain on Apr 28, 2009 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beckum is my favorite pick
Absolute star at UW, he’s better than Dustin Keller ever was in college. Beckum was very good in workouts, and he was a beast in college
Great rounte runner, too
I think that all 3 receivers the Giants got all have great hands, a BIG plus
BTW, Barden has 37!! inch arms, longer than most NFL lineman…
by FreeBradshaw on Apr 27, 2009 9:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no comment
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Apr 27, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nicks
has 10 and a half inch mitts and hes 5 inches shorter. i watched nicks play in colllege especially his bowl game, he can catch anything he will be productive for big blue and thats all we can ask for. Its highly unlikely he’ll be a pro bowl guy we just dont know yet, but we do know he’ll catch everything thrown his way. solid pick.
also, g-men are gunna have to cut some wideouts know that we have a million, we have a lot of crappy ones, we traded up to get sinorice moss few years back n he sucks, so dont get ur hopes up on ramses although he is very intriguing he’ll see limited action this year barring injuries. clint sintim is solid although i was hopin either laurintis or mauluga would fall. we also just signed maurice evans de penn state. he was a beast in college although undersized in the pros i hope that he can make the roster on an alrready very deep d-line.
by nova on Apr 27, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Offensive Line
That JR only picked one OL for a line that seemed thin by year’s end tells me he thinks that between Carnahan coming in from KC and Ruegammer coming back (?) and what they have developing, they should be okay there. If he was really worried about depth, seems like he would have gone there with one of the last two picks. Of course, there are also FA signings to come…..
by providence on Apr 27, 2009 10:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lets not compare
Ramses to plax.. let Ramses be Ramses
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by Hoyadestroya85 on Apr 27, 2009 10:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i just like his name
I’m going to start wearing old school Egyptian wear when watching the G-men now. haha!
In all seriousness though, I agree. He should not be made out to be Plax, but just let him play to his own abilities.
by NYG 28 on Apr 27, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
giant draft 2009
the best pick was Sintin . He is a monster. Also, they got a top receiver,a tackle a QB and a TE and BIG RECEIVER…They didn’t have to give up the house for somebody else’s problem…GO GIANTS
by coachgreg1@aol.com on Apr 27, 2009 12:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
For the 3 people who voted for Woodson
admit it, you just did it b/c you like the name Stoney, right?
by cjmulrain on Apr 27, 2009 12:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OL depth
If I were to have one concern, it is that only there was only one OL pick. I don’t think the Giants have enough depth at OL, and I hope Reese makes a few more moves during the off season or when camp starts
by NYERinSF on Apr 27, 2009 12:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
my guess
is that they resign Ruegamer after june 1 and maybe make one more move. At this point, I have NO idea what the 53 man looks like. My guess is the defensive backs picked in the end of the draft must be good kick coverage guys
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by Hoyadestroya85 on Apr 27, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been assuming they plan to resign Rugamer too
If they don’t ,who is the back up center if O’Hara goes down? Kevin Boothe? Rugamer’s not great, but he holds his own and he has a lot of experience. I was alittle surprised that they only took one offfensive lineman too. I thought they might use a fifth round pick for that and was very surprised when they took Bomar — although that pick makes sense. Carr’s short term and Woodson didn’t distinguish himself last year so another developmental QB is probably wise.
by Tucker Fredrickson on Apr 27, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I voted for Wright
The guy was getting shut out and needed some love. I have absolutely no problem with Nicks over Maclin. He catches EVERYTHING that comes near him. He might have Toomer’s size and speed but his hands are way better coming in. Maclin is tiny. He is not a number one receiver as it is understood to be. He’s projected as the Iggles slot receiver, and we already have at least three of those. And in college he didn’t run a heck of alot of major league routes besides slants and cuts across the middle. Hopefully Boley can light his ass up a couple of times when he tries that. The only thing I would have liked in the second round would maybe have been a trade-up for Britten, but then maybe Sintim isn’t there and I love that guy. I say we end up with another 6 contributors from this class.
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by bigbluethruandthru on Apr 27, 2009 6:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the 6 contributors could be right
I agree, I would have like some more O-Line depth.
I kind of understand the picks from Bomar on, but that’s where I would have liked an O-Lineman. But a LOT of O-Lineman who I saw mocked in the 2nd and 3rd rounds all dropped, som even didn’t get drafted at all (Gerald Cadogen I saw going in round 3, but went undrafted).
Probably means that this really was a weak class and just no one thought much of these guys. If you don’t think the guy can play then why draft him?
That said, I think the Giants need at least a lineman or 2. Koets, Whimper are still there. Ruegamer actually got some time and was OK. Boothe I didn’t think was as bad as some say (maybe cuz of the trunk space), but h’es there too.
The OL guys are all backups. Yea, if someone gets hurt they may be in trouble, tho I think beatty could come right in and be good.
by FreeBradshaw on Apr 28, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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