The schedule, and more Braylon Edwards talk
Here is your 2009 New York Giants' schedule, released last night on NFL.com and the NFL Network.
I don't get into trying to analyze schedules, especially in April. The season doesn't start for five months, and nobody really knows how good or bad any of these teams will be when the games finally roll around.
I will worry about the games when they get here. But, go ahead and have at it if you absolutely must dissect the schedule
Sunday, Sept. 13 vs. WASHINGTON, 4:15 p.m.
Sunday, Sept. 20 at Dallas, 8:20 p.m.
Sunday, Sept. 27 at Tampa, 1 p.m.
Sunday, Oct. 4 at Kansas City, 1 p.m.
Sunday, Oct. 11 vs. OAKLAND, 1 p.m.
Sunday, Oct. 18 at New Orleans, 1 p.m.
Sunday, Oct. 25 vs. ARIZONA, 8:20 p.m.
Sunday, Nov. 1 at Philadelphia, 4:15 p.m.
Sunday, Nov. 8 vs. SAN DIEGO, 4:15 p.m.
Sunday, Nov. 15 BYE
Sunday, Nov. 22 vs. ATLANTA, 1 p.m.*
Thursday, Nov. 26 at Denver, 8:20 p.m.
Sunday, Dec. 6 vs. DALLAS, 4:15 p.m.*
Sunday, Dec. 13 vs. PHILADELPHIA, 8:20 p.m.*
Monday, Dec. 21 at Washington, 8:30 p.m.
Sunday, Dec. 27 vs. CAROLINA, 1 p.m.*
Sunday, Jan. 3 at Minnesota, 1 p.m.*
*Times subject to change due to NFL’s flexible scheduling system
- Ralph Vacchiano has more details on the Braylon Edwards to the Giants rumors that surfaced Tuesday for what seems like the millionth time. Here is some of his report.
According to an NFL source familiar with the situation, the Giants and Browns have recently re-opened discussions about the big, 26-year-old receiver that had begun last month at the scouting combine in Indianapolis. The talks are more substantial now than they were, and the source said the Browns appear eager to make a deal.
The Giants certainly have a lot to offer, but they may not be willing to deal the one thing that could immediately get the deal done. The Browns are believed to desire defensive end Mathias Kiwanuka. However, one Giants source who would not confirm anything about possible trade talks, said the Giants have no intention of trading the promising 26-year-old end.
What might be on the table, though, is their first-round pick - 29th overall. According to a report in The National Football Post, the Browns currently have an offer of a No. 1 pick on the table from an unidentified team. The report states the Browns are "in love" with Texas Tech receiver Michael Crabtree, whom they would take with the fifth overall pick, presumably to replace Edwards in their lineup (though they could also make quite the dynamic 1-2 punch, too). ...
It’s too early to tell if a deal is really that likely, but clearly GM Jerry Reese - who declined to comment on any possible talks - is positioning the Giants to be in the hunt.
Personally, I have to believe there is a real chance of a deal bringing Edwards to the Giants is a strong possibility. There have been too many reports in too many places to simply disregard them.
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I dropped by the Browns board
a few weeks ago when the trade rumors first surfaced. All the fan talk was about how many passes he dropped and they wouldn’t miss him if they got a fair price in return. Kiwanuka should be off the table but I trust Reese to make the right move.
I hope they can get away with just trading draft picks. I don’t want to give up any of our young players, whether it be Hixon, Smith , or Kiwi.
+2
Picks should be enough. Especially if a No. 1 is included.
by Ed Valentine on Apr 15, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
That schedule
Is brutal.
Tampa in September? At 1 in the afternoon? Ugh (double ugh because I am hoping to be at that game). Giants have four games at 4:15, this couldn’t be one of them? At least by 4:15 the temperature will have dropped to around 85, LOL
5 night games? And that could increase when the flex scheduling kicks in.
And that 7 game finish, wow. Also, if you notice, the last five games of the season are identical to this season, the NFC East teams are just jumbled.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Apr 15, 2009 8:26 AM EDT reply actions
2009 SCHEDULE
I’m never thrilled to see ANY prime time games on the schedule and (5) has me hangin my head already (What’s up with prime time games and NYG???)
3 road games in a row sounds lousy, but after Oct 19 (return from NO) until Jan 1 (leave for MINN) they only have to fly to Denver. PHI & WSH are quick road trips. I think that could be a real boast to staying fresh heading into the playoffs.
Heck, after the MINN game, let’s play at home thru the playoffs and just travel to the SB!!!!
Agree with you on the prime time flop
It seems anytime the Giants have a prime time game they decide to just not show up… it really bothers me.
Prime Time
It’s recognition that the Giants have one of the best teams in FB. People want to see them play.
I realize that it's PART reflection on the team and part being a BIG MARKET team
I’d be willing to stay up EVERY game of the year, IF I had any confidence in which GIANTS team was going to show up. We (NYG) have a terrible track record for playing WAY below our capabilites when the nation is watching. I live in New England, the morning after say a CLEVELAND kinda game…
I want to wear a paper bag like in N.O. days of the AIN’TS. (But I don’t. I stand by my team!!!)
You’re a GIANTS fan >>> you know the feeling!!!
“Gut Wrenching GIANTS Football!!!!”
Yes, George
The Edwards reports are not isolated. It may not happen, but you know darn well the Giants are trying to make it happen.
by Ed Valentine on Apr 15, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I like the schedule.
Looks like our toughest games are at home and that’s a good thing. The first half of the season, Saints and Philly give me the most worry. If Brees gets the time, he can shred a defense and Philly is always a tough fight. Second half, Atlanta and Carolina stick out to me. I think Matt Ryan is the real deal and Turner is nice in their run game. With the Panthers, if we can’t get to Delhome, their Steve Smith could be a nightmare. As for the prime time games, I love it. Networks and NFL showing and trusting that the Gmen are good for ratings. Can’t wait for the draft and the season.
This Braylon stuff
is making me restless.. If it falls through though, there’s always Ramses!
It's not easy being Giants fan in Philly.. but it sure is satisfying
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I am hoping that it does fall through!!!
I have confidence in the team we have and don’t want to release anyone. Moss is the exception, but even there, I wish he’d just live up to expecations, help the team win and then we strengthen the team with the draft. Not be repeatedly creating another void every time we try to fill one.( eg. lose Hixon or Kiwi to gain Edwards)
I think, stay with the hand we have, draw from the draft, discard the worst cards after training camp and go get us another SB!!!!
( It’s really quite simple isn’t it???)
I don't want it to
Braylon is young and established.. You can get a decent KR in the late rounds. Braylon was picked third overall for a reason. With these draft picks and very few needs its important to go after him. I’d rather have Smith than Hixon.. I don’t care if he gets 1300 yards.. all i want is 900 and 8 touchdowns.. as long as he’s taking attention away from the running backs and other receivers that would make it worth it
Pull the Trigger Jerry!
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by Hoyadestroya85 on Apr 15, 2009 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I knew I wouldn't convince you to change your mind, but that's why we come here!!!
I have mixed feelings about it, as I’m sure most people do. You have hit on the positives that I see in the trade. Smith and Hixon DON’T command double coverage. Getting double coverage helps the running game and production of the other receivers. I put that on one side of the scale and think… OK, go for it
Then there’s the thoughts I presented above that say, We’re SO close to what we need… We should have won another LAST year… let’s draft for OL and D, pickup a WR along the way and keep moving forward.
I have doubts..
but this is a solid OL year.. and we only need maybe one linebacker.. a second round pick would be sufficient for that. I’m just not too impressed with the receivers in this draft outside of crabtree. Sometimes you have to give a lot to get a lot
It's not easy being Giants fan in Philly.. but it sure is satisfying
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by Hoyadestroya85 on Apr 15, 2009 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I was reading that there's concern that Crabtree's another head case!!!
I guess he isn’t easy to coach in college, hangs with punks, etc…
Percy Harvin (or whatever) has had the same said about him.
So close
I think that is why Reese will pull the trigger if the deal is right. If you draft a WR at 29 you aren’t likely to get a guy who can step in, be a No. 1 and command double teams right away. If you get Edwards (basically making him your No. 1) you have that. He drops too many balls, but hopefully he will get better with that. The Giants really aren’t in a place where they can sit around and wait for guys to develop. Their window of opportunity is now.
by Ed Valentine on Apr 15, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
he also
was hurt during training camp which he missed three games, had four starting QBs and the team had very little running game
It's not easy being Giants fan in Philly.. but it sure is satisfying
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by Hoyadestroya85 on Apr 15, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
If it falls through
I wouldn’t panic. I think the Browns want too much. Kiwi is totally out of the mix on this one. If we have to give up the farm for Edwards, I say forget it. I would love to have him but there comes a point when too much is too much. I also think that the “need” for a tall target for Eli has to fall on Eli. There has to come a point where Eli has to be accountable. Marino had the Marks brothers, Washington had the Smurfs. The Panthers have a Steve Smith and he is not a 6 footer but maybe one of the most feared WR’s in the league. Eli has to put the ball where receivers can catch it, make a play and not rely on the “jump ball”. Our WR’s have shown flashes, now it’s time to step up and be great. Why can’t Hixon go for it? Why can’t Manningham show he was the steal we thought he was. Guys need to challenge themselves and each other and claim greatness, then we can draft a WR and groom him and draft to add depth to the o-line. I know we have too many picks, but we can’t waste too many to get Edwards.
Eli is simply
not the most accurate of a QB. He is what he is & is unlikely to change. He works as hard as anyone in the league, so if he’s not accurate yet, then he probably never will be (& all that said, I still love the guy for other reasons). So that means the Giants should try their best to get him weapons that fit his strengths. One of those strengths is throwing it up to a tall receiver, therefore I’m a big proponent of getting a big replacement for Plax.
Eli
is a better pssing, less mobile version of Jim McMahon.. great at play action, not the best but a winner
It's not easy being Giants fan in Philly.. but it sure is satisfying
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by Hoyadestroya85 on Apr 15, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
If you're talking about the post shoulder
injury McMahon, I agree. Before that, he could make impossible throws, On a Mon. Night Football game, I saw him throw on the run for a completion a fifty yarder to the opposite side of the field.
yeah..
I’m talking about 85 McMahon..
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by Hoyadestroya85 on Apr 15, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd hate to lose Hix.
I believe he has enough upside potetisl to outshine Smith some day. On the other hand, if it comes down to a choice NOW, I’d rather lose Hix than Smith. apparently, JR feels the same.
if we could get braylon edwards
without giving up a 1st rd pick and steve smith that would be HUGE. i know hixon has done some good things for us but its tough to argue he’s anything but a replacement level guy. i’d do hixon and a 2nd rounder for edwards in a heartbeat. i know edwards had a down year last year but thats exactly when you target a guy, so you can buy low and not give up equal talent. if we get him though im guessing we give up either the 1st rd pick or steve smith.
HELLO HELLO MR WILPON. WE WANT THE MANSION NOT THE CONDO.
I'd give up the 1st, but not the future and Steve Smith (He's our Amani Toomer for the future)
But then who’s to say Hixon isn’t Toomer Jr?? He sure studied well under him!!
Why are the Jets closing out GIANTS stadium!
The Giants play week 17 in Minny while the classic Jet vs Bungles matchup is sceduled for the Giants Home Stadium Finale. I can’t belive the league would do this. Giants vs Eagles or Redskins should close out the stadium not a freaking worthless Jet Game that NOBODY cares about. The Giants better open up the new stadium and not the freaking Jets, the Giants would have gotten their own stadium regardless if the Jets wanted to be partners why do we have to put up with this WORTHLESS franchise and all 50 of their fans. It’s bad enough the Giants have 5 Prime time games and only ONE, yes One definatley sceduled 1:00 Home game, the late season games will be flexed to 4 or to a night game. As a seson ticket Holder I’m pissed becuase I usually go to the early season games that kickoff at one and sell the ones later in the year, to GIANT fans only, but all of their early games kick off at 4:15 or 8:15 other than Oakland. I hate Prime time home games!
Good point on the finale Landeta but....
We’ll close the Stadium with the NFC Championship game
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Apr 15, 2009 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I think the league wanted the JETS & their fans
to have atleast ONE memorable moment in GIANTS stadium history!!!
Personally
I love prime time games, b/c out of market it’s the only way I am guaranteed to get the Giants games. That said, if I were gonna get all the GMen games anyway, I’d hate primetime games. They’re so damn late, and half the time (I’m looking at you, MNF), the production seems to outweigh the game, which is annoying.
Schedule
I’m glad we get our bye late in the season as opposed to after week 4. Plus I’m glad we get Dallas and Philly at home after the bye as well.
No Kiwi,
if that’s a Priority for the Browns, I say the Giants counter with making Shaun Rogers be put into the deal. Not exactly the Giants type, although they were hoping for Big All Haynesworth and Rogers is just as disruptive, especially in a 4-3 scheme.
I really don’t want to give up any players. They need #2 and #3 receivers as well. Just give up picks. IF it cost the 1st and 5th, then fine.
Don't worry
Remember the Chargers wanted Osi Umenyura when they traded Eli to the Giants and the Giants said no dice. So I don’t see them giving up Kiwi.
???????
Through in 2 pro bowlers for kiwi dont make me laugh. Shaun Rogers is pretty much the best nose tackle in football.
Don;t mention Pro Bowlers in a Giants forum
After the Cowgirls get 13 Pro Bowlers with maybe 4 deserving it, it doesn’t mean anything to me.
Edwards is NOT a perennial Pro Bowler, and Shaun Rogers is not the best NT in the game. Id take Vince Wilfork and Kris Jenkins over him to start.
I was just saying that in order to get Kiwi, you gott give us more than Braylon.
by FreeBradshaw on Apr 15, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Get Him
Get Edwards!!! The final piece of the puzzle. We need a big WR and a down field threat to keep the opposing defenses honest. He’s may not be as talented and as big as Burress but he’ll still draw double teams and that’s what the offense needs. Teams wont blitz as much and it will give Eli more options to throw to. The #2 and #5 should be enough and maybe a high 2010 pick
On a completely unrelated note
Where in the world is Amani Toomer and whats his status for coming back next year? We can still use him to mentor our young receivers and even if he’s getting older, he’s still a playmaker… we owe the divisional win over Dallas primarily to him and his beastly 52 yard TD, Eli, and R.W. McQuarters. Having him and Torry Holt would be good for a transition period while Manningham and maybe… just maybe.. .Sinorice Moss fully develop. I have more faith in Manningham, obviously. Manning to Manningham era starts in 2010, i hope
Amani
isn’t coming back after talking smack on the organization
It's not easy being Giants fan in Philly.. but it sure is satisfying
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by Hoyadestroya85 on Apr 15, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Amani is long gone
And no one is knocking on his door right now, either.
by Ed Valentine on Apr 15, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Times will have had to really have changed for the worst...
if come training camp nobody’s signed Toomer or Holt to a one year (maybe two) contract.
The two of them are no spring chickens, but Toomer has always taken very good care of himself (as Holt probably has) and still has more in the tank.
Their productions down to ~ 600 yards per season, while playing in limited roles.
I think it’ll be a waste of football talent if they’re all done in the league!!
2nd, 3rd, & 4th
For Braylon… Do it, I don’t care, the guy can play. Just don’t trade any of the young studs or the 1st round pick. We somehow need to cut our draft picks down from 10 to 5 anyway.
As long as that 2nd is the Giants 2nd
then that would be fine with me.
The 6th ant 7th rounders to me seem like shots in the dark anyway and more practice squad players than anything else.
by FreeBradshaw on Apr 15, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I balked when I read
the rumor of that proposal for Kiwi. I would be disappointed if that came to pass, but as others have expressed, I would be comfortable letting Hixon and picks go for Edwards. Smith with picks, not so much
As a non-ticket holder, I was specifically looking how many night games we would get, because it is a bit easier for me to convince my girlfriend to watch the game from home than to go out.
Jets-Bengals
This is the last regular seaso game in Giants Stadium and the Jets are playing it and not us! The Jets (and the Bengals) are totally irrelevent and no one will watch this game so why not have the Giants play Minnesota at the Meadowlands. It would be a game that people would watch ( as Minnesota could be fighting for a playoff berth) and it would make sense since we played in Minnesota last year so this should be a home game. Oh well, I guess we will have to wait to host a playoff game the next week to say goodbye to GIants Sadium.
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