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Scouting report on C.C. Brown

Here is a very frank, and in all honesty not very flattering, report on new Giant safety C.C. Brown from Tim at SBN's Houston Texans blog, Battle Red Blog.

Like every safety ever employed by my beloved Texans, C.C. Brown is decent in run support and absolutely awful in coverage.  In Houston, the SS and FS positions are fairly interchangeable; I believe Brown played a bit of both for us, though the responsibilities aren't very different.

C.C.'s a solid hitter; he's got no problem laying the wood.  It's when you ask him to cover someone and/or an area of the field that you get into trouble.  He was a sixth-round pick a few years ago and became a starter, which speaks to (1) his work ethic and (2) the abominable nature of the Houston secondary.
 
Houston never even tried to re-sign him after the 2008 season, thinking that Nick Ferguson, Eugene Wilson, and Dominique Barber (2008 sixth-rounder) were better options than C.C.  None of those guys are world-beaters, so that should give you an idea of what the Houston brass thought of C.C. 
 
That said, I think he'd be a decent addition to a safety rotation.  He has no business starting, but I think a smart coaching staff (like Coughlin's) could utilize him in a way to maximize his strength (run support).  Speaking of, C.C. originally made the Texans as a special teams player, so I imagine you'll see him there as well; he should be a quality addition in that respect. Just don't ask him to cover anyone.  Ever.
Like I said, that isn't exactly a ringing endorsement.

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Not that i don’t think the Texans got a good D-Line but they dont have the Giants d-line, i thinks this plays a huge roll in how well anyone can cover. Also taking FANATICS word about their EX player is like asking my girlfriends ex-boyfriend what he thought about her… you know the answer your going to get… besides i like MJ and Phillips as starters anyways, CC is much needed depth cause we had none before getting him… that being said i’m 100% sure you already know all this but its early and its friday gotta kill sometime before i actually start working today…

by gobs56 on Mar 6, 2009 7:07 AM EST reply actions  

Well said

all of it. Although I always speak highly of ex-girlfriends…..except that one, she was a real pain in the ass. Well, and then there was the one that dumped me after I took her out for a really expensive dinner, money grubber. And the one that just stopped taking my calls, I hate her. Oh and don’t get me started on Marie…..Ok yeah I pretty much hate them all.

Giants fan from the womb to the tomb

by Jim Schmiedeberg on Mar 6, 2009 7:58 AM EST up reply actions  

As one BBVer said:

Let Brown blitz and Boley cover.

by blue gonz on Mar 6, 2009 7:20 AM EST reply actions  

Wish it was better news, but

If there wasn’t something positive with the guy why would JR & TC waste their time. One year contract, backup role and a hard hitting SP player. We draft & develop a rookie safety and CC hits the road next year.
 (If he even makes it out of camp this year?)

by NY17NE14 on Mar 6, 2009 7:44 AM EST reply actions  

C.C.

He seems like a solid tackler and a good run defender. You know, this wasn’t a glowing report. Then again, show me a safety who is a great cover guy and I will show you a guy who should be playing corner. There aren’t many great cover safeties.

by Ed Valentine on Mar 6, 2009 7:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree. I didn't bother to put it in my comment, but

I thought the same thing about using him as a run stopper not on passing downs. With the aggressive defense it appears we’ll have, alot of teams will have to use a two TE set for added protection against our swarming D. That being the case, CC can play close to the line and help stuff the run or stomp out swing passes, etc…

This and SP teams play are just bonuses to, as you said, an insurance policy

by NY17NE14 on Mar 6, 2009 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm not worried about it

He’s replacing James Butler, not exactly a “shutdown” safety.

Giants fan from the womb to the tomb

by Jim Schmiedeberg on Mar 6, 2009 7:59 AM EST reply actions  

Exactly

they have the same weaknesses.

This guy will be fine as a backup.

by potroast on Mar 6, 2009 8:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Butler

Every time there was a 50 yard plus pass play in the past two years it seems like butler was supposed to provide something over the top. Randy Moss’ 23rd TD and Donald Driver’s 90 yard TD in the playoffs (and driver’s not a burner) come to mind.

It's not easy being Giants fan in Philly.. but it sure is satisfying

http://novafacts.blogspot.com

by Hoyadestroya85 on Mar 6, 2009 8:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I dont see how he'll beat out Phillips or Johnson

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Mar 6, 2009 9:14 AM EST reply actions  

I don't think anyone expects him to

that’s why he signed a one year deal.. he’s probably insurance in case we get a rookie that doesn’t pan out.

It's not easy being Giants fan in Philly.. but it sure is satisfying

http://novafacts.blogspot.com

by Hoyadestroya85 on Mar 6, 2009 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly

He is insurance against injury. The Giants had nobody behind Phillips and Johnson, and any time you can get a guy who starting experience that’s good. The reports aren’t glowing, but the guy isn’t replacing Ed Reed.

by Ed Valentine on Mar 6, 2009 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

so he's this years Sammy Knight?

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Mar 6, 2009 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope not

I think we’ll see a lot more of C.C. than we did of Knight. He’s younger and seems to be good in run support. I assume he’s going to be the third safety, just like Butler would have been with Phillips taking over the starting spot.

by Tucker Fredrickson on Mar 6, 2009 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

He is much younger

I think Knight was a good player who simply had nothing left in the tank. Brown is only a four-year veteran, so there might still be some upside.

by Ed Valentine on Mar 6, 2009 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't care how bad he is in pass coverage

as long as he helps our kick coverave teams

It's not easy being Giants fan in Philly.. but it sure is satisfying

http://novafacts.blogspot.com

by Hoyadestroya85 on Mar 6, 2009 12:08 PM EST reply actions  

wow *coverage

It's not easy being Giants fan in Philly.. but it sure is satisfying

http://novafacts.blogspot.com

by Hoyadestroya85 on Mar 6, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Good point

our kick coverage was awful.

by potroast on Mar 6, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

C.C. Brown

It is obvious that Brown was brought in to provide depth at safety and special teams. I don’t think anyone expects him to supplant Johnson or Phillips. But, Brown is a veteran guy who has value as a backup.

by ejcal70 on Mar 6, 2009 3:22 PM EST reply actions  

Not worried...

Hes a backup…He is here for depth…

by vindac on Mar 6, 2009 9:44 PM EST reply actions  

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