Braylon Edwards for Kiwi ??

by JINTS14 on Mar 4, 2009 10:48 AM EST

I saw this rumor floating around today: Braylon for Kiwanuka.

http://ballhype.com/story/more_browns_trade_rumors_braylon_edwards_for_mathias/

Based on our recent acquisitions on the Defensive Line I would say go for it. I know Braylon had a rough year, but he has all the tools to be the deep threat we may be looking for. I still think Kiwi has a lot of upside but I have a feeling Canty would emerge as the starter if they went head to head in training camp....Thoughts ?

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no way

that canty could play right end… he’s not a speed rusher like you usually need

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by Hoyadestroya85 on Mar 4, 2009 11:01 AM EST reply actions

canty is not a starter at end

period, they are talking about situationally using him at end. Jay Alford played a couple of snaps last year at end off the bench. he is not a 4-3 end, it’s not the same thing

by queler on Mar 4, 2009 11:11 AM EST reply actions

we've got at least 9 picks.

Package a pick or two to move up for an impact receiver of trade picks for Edwards. keep Kiwi. Defensive rotation looks awesome…..on paper.

by njgiant on Mar 4, 2009 11:44 AM EST reply actions

+1

by potroast on Mar 4, 2009 11:53 AM EST up reply actions

+2

by blue gonz on Mar 4, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions

Picks

I think we may end up w/11 picks because of compensatory picks given out when you lose FAs.

by Ed Valentine on Mar 5, 2009 9:47 AM EST up reply actions

yea we get one for gibril and one for i think kawika

by shenkthetank92 on Mar 5, 2009 7:31 PM EST up reply actions

or maybe torbor

by shenkthetank92 on Mar 5, 2009 7:31 PM EST up reply actions

agreed

i still think Kiwi has the potential to be a big-time player. the Giants have a lot of other options other than trading Kiwi to get a #1 WR before the season starts.

by SBakerTheTouchdownMaker on Mar 4, 2009 11:56 AM EST up reply actions

On the other hand

would rather have Boldin.

by njgiant on Mar 4, 2009 11:57 AM EST reply actions

Harrison??

what about Marvin…………Canty was a great pick up , the mans a man among men out there…….6`7 300+ , Not chasing down Eli anymore may i add , is gonna be fine at tackle or End , robbins and cofield are keepers for the middle bernard will help that with canty tukk osi kiwi at the ends, what a rotation it will be…..bring Plax back , sign a vet. to replace toomer , draft linebacker , WR and RB………..

by StephNWolf on Mar 4, 2009 1:23 PM EST reply actions

I wouldn't be against it.

Two things:

If we can trade someone/something other than Kiwi (like picks), that would be better.
I’d prefer Boldin or Calvin Johnson, if they’re to be had.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Mar 4, 2009 1:40 PM EST reply actions

Thoughts

(1) Marvin H will retire. Simple as that. Read the MMQB. Harrison is done. And even if he isn’t, he’s washed up and hasn’t been a #1 for years (See Wayne, Reggie). What does Harrison give you that Toomer couldn’t? I’m against going after Marvin H.

(2) I don’t know where the Calvin Johnson talk came from. I just don’t see why Detroit would ever even consider trading him. And the price tag would be SO HIGH for him, I think it wouldn’t even be worth it in the first place? I mean Detroit would likely want a king’s ransom for him – and why not? He is a complete stud and was the only bright spot on an otherwise abysmal team. Detroit would likely tell you to pound sand. Boldin on the other hand, is obviously out there…..

And yeah – I’d be against trading Kiwi as well! It would seem to me that the Braylon for Kiwi rumors are being thrown out there by someone associated with the Browns (either a fan or otherwise) to drive up his value. But yeah, given his AWFUL play last yr, Braylon simply isn’t worth kiwi right now.

by Cody K on Mar 4, 2009 2:10 PM EST reply actions

The only thing is, if you were Detroit

Would you want a great WR with absolutely no supporting cast, or trade him for pieces of a bigger puzzle (i.e. draft picks, starters, etc.)?

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Mar 4, 2009 3:36 PM EST up reply actions

Great Point, 92

If I were the Detroit GM I’d shop Johnson for the highest bidder, looking for the kind of deal Jerry Jones got when he traded Hershell Walker to the Vikes. If he can’t get something like Jones did, fine, forget it. But the Lions have lots of holes, some of which might be able to be plugged by players they could get in exchange for Johnson. If they got the right players in exchange, they’d be a better team.

by blue gonz on Mar 4, 2009 5:07 PM EST up reply actions

Boldin

is not obviously out there. Those rumors are out there because of his agent, who is trying to pull the Chad Johnson. The Cardinals have no reason to trade him. He’s under a contract very favorable to them and he’s a good player and a warrior to boot. No way does he go anywhere. It just makes absolutely no sense for the Cardinals and they hold all the leverage.

Totally agree on Johnson. Why trade your only star? And he only makes $3.5 million? Teams don’t trade away contracts that are so favorable. That’s why neither of these guys are going anywhere.

by potroast on Mar 4, 2009 4:56 PM EST up reply actions

One reason why they'd trade Boldin.

Team chemistry.

As for Johnson, I only see them trading him if, like blue gonz and I said above, the Lions can get a plethora of pieces (Herschel Walker to the Vikings is a great comp). And nice contracts don’t do anything when you’re 0-16 and fighting for ticket revenue.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Mar 4, 2009 6:34 PM EST up reply actions

ticket revenue

the lions did a great job selling tickets last year.. it won’t be a problem. Detroit has very loyal fans

It's not easy being Giants fan in Philly.. but it sure is satisfying

http://novafacts.blogspot.com/

by Hoyadestroya85 on Mar 4, 2009 8:32 PM EST up reply actions

But what about this coming year, with the Big Three car companies failing and Detroit, the city, going down in flames (figuratively)?

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Mar 4, 2009 10:11 PM EST up reply actions

thats a good point

but the big three have been failing for years now and detroit’s always been a S**thole so that’s not as much of a problem.

It's not easy being Giants fan in Philly.. but it sure is satisfying

http://novafacts.blogspot.com/

by Hoyadestroya85 on Mar 4, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions

I get

team chemistry, but I’m sure the Cards organization don’t see this guy as a problem child. He’s been a great teammate and if you force him back without a new contract, he’ll play his butt off anyway. From everything I’ve heard about the guy he’s a very upstanding individual. He won’t hurt chemistry and the Cardinals know it.

by potroast on Mar 5, 2009 6:27 AM EST up reply actions

How about

Someone like Dwayne Bowe or Greg Jennings?

It's not easy being Giants fan in Philly.. but it sure is satisfying

http://novafacts.blogspot.com/

by Hoyadestroya85 on Mar 4, 2009 5:27 PM EST reply actions

not a chance in hell that either gb or kc give them up

i love the 2 of them but they are both young rising stars and they are both way to valuable to their teams to go anywhere
bowe had a great 1st 2 seasons w/o a half decent quarterback now he has matt cassel his numbers are going to be great this year

by shenkthetank92 on Mar 4, 2009 6:43 PM EST up reply actions

Braylon or Boldin

If either could be had for Kiwi Jerry should pounce!

by BlueFan60657 on Mar 4, 2009 10:08 PM EST reply actions

BlueFan

I disagree with trading Kiwi. That said, welcome to BBV.

by Ed Valentine on Mar 4, 2009 10:58 PM EST up reply actions

I have an idea for how to shore up wide receiver without losing any picks or players

How about Plaxico Burress?

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Mar 5, 2009 12:45 AM EST reply actions

Yes,

but he definitely won’t be around for at least half a season and maybe more due to his legal troubles and possible suspension. The Giants have to move on like he’s not going to be there.

by potroast on Mar 5, 2009 6:24 AM EST up reply actions

Don't you think

That the league could give him credit for the four games he was suspended for and possibly the one playoff game? Sort of a time served arrangement. I think the fact that the Giants Management were very firm with him bodes well for his overall situation. This isn’t a Bengals situation.

It's not easy being Giants fan in Philly.. but it sure is satisfying

http://novafacts.blogspot.com/

by Hoyadestroya85 on Mar 5, 2009 8:39 AM EST up reply actions

goodell already said no suspension

by shenkthetank92 on Mar 5, 2009 7:32 PM EST up reply actions

that's not what he said

he said that he wasn’t going to suspend him at that point because the case hasn’t been adjudicated.

It's not easy being Giants fan in Philly.. but it sure is satisfying

http://novafacts.blogspot.com

by Hoyadestroya85 on Mar 5, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions

i saw recently tht he wont be suspended

by shenkthetank92 on Mar 5, 2009 11:28 PM EST up reply actions

T.O.

COULD BE A POSSABILITY…..lol…..Not , stay away T.O.

StephNWolf

by StephNWolf on Mar 5, 2009 11:42 AM EST reply actions

WE NEED A #2 GUY , TOOMER IS GONE.......

pLAX WILL RETURN AFTER A 4 GAME SUSP……we will need obvious help at WR……Smith , Dixon , Manningham,moss…will all be here , great 3`s and a 4……..but no #2……..a Boldin , Bowe , edwards pick up would be great ….. and pick up someone doesnt want like free agent jerry Porter…………

StephNWolf

by StephNWolf on Mar 5, 2009 11:49 AM EST reply actions