New York Giants' notes, 03.25.09

by Ed Valentine on Mar 25, 2009 7:00 AM EDT in News Comment 14 comments

Here are a few New York Giants' notes for a Wednesday.

ESPN's Matt Mosley had a very nice two-part interview with Giants' General Manager Jerry Reese earlier this week. Click here for Part 1, and here for Part 2.

My favorite part of the Reese interviews is his response when Mosley asked him about experts saying the Giants are winning the off-season. He said "offseason Super Bowl stuff is for losers." Love that line.

Mosley also gets 'kudos' for pointing out this mock draft from Football Outsiders. In typical FO style, Bill Barnwell goes above and beyond by not just making selections, but by also trying to figure out which teams will make trades. Interestingly, Barnwell has the Giants moving up to No. 18 (from 29) to select Maryland wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey.

Barnwell also gets off a tremendous line in regards to the mock draft madness around the Inter-Google leading up to the real draft. According to Barnwell, "Mock drafts are a special sort of useless." Love that line, too.

A little good news on the wide receiver front. Reserve Taye Biddle is nearly fully recovered from an apparent random shooting in January.
Ralph Vacchiano says the Giants have talked to Cleveland about Braylon Edwards, but have not offered to deal any players.
Ernie Palladino gives us a glimpse of what the Giants' new practice facility is going to look like.
Brandon Jacobs doesn't think Plaxico Burress deserves any prison time.

“With the people they’ve got running around on the street, I don’t think that someone like him should be convicted for what he’s done,” Jacobs said earlier today. “He didn’t hurt anyone but himself. We’ve got murderers and killers and rapists and everything else that’s running around the streets now. But you know, it is a messed up world and a messed up country and you never know what they’ll do.”

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DHB?

The Gints trade up for DHB? I don’t think 18 is high enough for him. The draft could obviously play out in a million+ ways, but I don’t think he’ll be there. I think DHB is moving up and could be the 2nd receiver off the board, probably undead Al is gonna wake up and see DHB’s 40 time and grab him at #7.

by FreeBradshaw on Mar 25, 2009 7:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I think DHB has the best potential as a WR in the draft tho

The guy is the fastest and pretty big too. Some say he is a track star playing football, but actually he’s more football player than anything. He played at Maryland where they had some tough comp, and not that much talent at QB or any other WR position. Plus I remember watching a few games and their RB had a severe case of the fumbles.

Should he drop that far, I would love to see them move up and grab him. Id love to get some real speed at the WR position.

by FreeBradshaw on Mar 25, 2009 7:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

DHB

has the biggest upside, but also the biggest potential to be a Tim Carter-esque flop. My pal Rick Snider has covered pro and college sports in the DC area for 30 years and has closely wached DHB. He warned that DHB is a tools guy whose production doesn’t match his athleticism. His take is that someone is going to grab him much too early just because he can run fast.

by Ed Valentine on Mar 25, 2009 7:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

True

But I’ve been following College football and the draft for a while, and when the Giants grabbed Tim Carter in round 2 I thought they were nuts. Not only did I never hear of the guy, but he was a borderline 5th rounder let alone a second rounder. He was definitely a workout warrior who was more Troy Williamson than Torry Holt

I also thought they were geniuses for grabbing Sinorice Moss, and while I don’t think that’s open and shut bust cuz he just must be doing something wrong off the field, he isn’t his brother.

But DHB from what I saw, his QB just couldn’t reach him or threw wildly trying to get him the ball mostly. They ran alot too. The guy is every bit a WR and could be a Dwayne Bowe type if he bulks up a little more. The guy’s production really was because of his team’s failures, not really because of him. He didn’t even have a QB that knew how to just throw it up in the air and wait for him to come down with it like Calvin’ Johnson’s QB did on GT a few years back.

WHile I obviously don’t know whether or not he’ll be any better than TIm Carter, I think that the Carter pick was baffling and a trade up for DHB to get potentially the best WR in this draft could be a wise move, especially if Plax is gonna play next year, we need a #2 too!

by FreeBradshaw on Mar 25, 2009 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Injuries are the real key

While I don’t think Carter was that bad of a pick cuz he did have some great combine times and workouts, its injuries that are the key.

by FreeBradshaw on Mar 25, 2009 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

THe Giants

May have always drafted well, but it seems that injuries derail so many careers for them. That’s why the past few years, Osi and half of Aaron Ross aside, have been very successful. When the entire draft class can stay on the field, they contribute and show how well they have drafted.

by FreeBradshaw on Mar 25, 2009 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

that's what I've been saying

We’ve got to do something better getting these rookies, especially the WRs, from Combine shape into football shape before every single one of them injures their quads.

by queler on Mar 25, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

But Ed..

How good were Chris Turner and Jordan Steffy? The fridge also didn’t seem to like to give him the ball. In the Villanova game when it was close, i was watching the seperation he was getting.. he could have run Go Routes every time and scored touchdowns.. and if our corners at nova are anything, they’re not slow.

It's not easy being Giants fan in Philly.. but it sure is satisfying

http://novafacts.blogspot.com

by Hoyadestroya85 on Mar 25, 2009 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Don't forget

I am a Maryland grad and a big-time Terps fan. I know they didn’t have a quality QB. Part of me would love DHB as a Giant. I’m just saying that a guy who’s opinion I trust, has covered the NFL for many years and knows DHB better than any of us says he comes with a big warning label. That’s all.

by Ed Valentine on Mar 25, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

you're absolutely right..

I tried to watch them as much as possible. I’ve read from some people that they think He’d make a better pro than college player, but others say that he’s gonna bomb. Teams that are thinking about drafting him need to think of whether he’ll be a 60 catch, 1,000 yard receiver or a charles rogers type. He has the raw physical talent to be Randy Moss, but his college production (whether fair or unfair) has to raise a serious eyebrow. Regardless, I love the thought of Heyward Bey because i think he could be almost like Andre Johnson, but I also could see him as a guy who feels that he can get by on talent alone. If he’s available at 29.. take him, but I wouldn’t trade up for a guy who was never able to dominate in college.

It's not easy being Giants fan in Philly.. but it sure is satisfying

http://novafacts.blogspot.com

by Hoyadestroya85 on Mar 25, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

and

I think it would have served him well to stay another year, work with Maryland’s outstanding strength and conditioning program (probably second best to Oregon) and show up at the combine next year even faster and stronger plus more refined than he is now. Look what that conditioning was able to do for Vernon Davis.

It's not easy being Giants fan in Philly.. but it sure is satisfying

http://novafacts.blogspot.com

by Hoyadestroya85 on Mar 25, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Reese quote

it’s a great quote, and I do agree, but what strikes me different about the Giants “winning” this particular offseason is that they’ve done it w/o flashy signings. They’ve done it by being savvy, upgrading positions of strength, and signing a talented guy off the trash heap for one of their few weaknesses. It’s not like people are saying they’ve won the offseason b/c they signed TO or anything like that, they’re saying it b/c they recognize what a solid job Reese is doing building this team the right way – the Super Bowl way.

by cjmulrain on Mar 25, 2009 7:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

+1

by potroast on Mar 25, 2009 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

DHB

I have been watching some of the plays DHB made. He seemed to shy away from contacts. I feel like Kenny Britt would be a better fit for the Giants because he seem to have the kind of mentality to be physical and push defenders around. Plus the giants most likely won’t have to trade up to get him.

by bonwei on Mar 26, 2009 1:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs