Edwards or Boldin -- which would you prefer?
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Early in the off-season, speculation about the New York Giants search for a No. 1 wide receiver not named Plaxico Burress centered on Arizona's Anquan Boldin.
Lately the hot name, and the guy many are saying the Giants are after, is Cleveland's Braylon Edwards.
I don't think Giants' fans would complain about acquiring either one of these two playmaking wide receivers. But, considering that the price will be high -- probably a couple of draft picks and maybe a player -- for either, which guy would you rather have?
Boldin, who will be 29 this season, is a 6-foot-1, 218-pound six-year veteran. He has two 100+plus catch seasons to his credit, and two other years in which he caught more than 80 passes.
He is a physical presence, but is more of a catch-and-run possession receiver who specializes in creating big plays after catching short passes. For his career, Boldin averages 12.9 yards per catch.
Edwards, 26, is a 6-foot-3, 211-pound four-year veteran. He is a tremendously talented player, but has had only one truly big season. That was 2007, when he caught 80 passes, 16 for touchdowns.
Edwards was inconsistent in 2008, catching only 55 passes, 3 for touchdowns, and acquiring a reputation for dropping too many balls. How much of that was his fault, and how much was due to Cleveland's quarterback issues?
Edwards may not be as consistent as Boldin, but he is more of a big-play threat. For his career, he averages, 15.6 yards per catch.
Matt Bowen of The National Football Post makes an impassioned case for why it takes a No. 1 receiver to win championships in the NFL.
Without Plaxico Burress, they’re a one-dimensional team without big-play ability down the field — and that doesn’t win championships at this level....
The windows of opportunity most of teams have in this league are small, and the Giants are right in the middle of that window without a key part.
In my opinion, the Giants are desperate at the position, further turning Burress’ actions into utter disaster and bringing a sense of panic to the Meadowlands. As I’ve written before, this is a business about winning, and that’s it. When you play on a playoff team that doesn’t make the Super Bowl, the first thing management does is find the parts to prevent it from happening the next season.
And the “part” in New York is a No.1 receiver who can make Eli Manning look like an All-Pro — just as Burress did.
Bowen also believes Edwards is the better fit for the Giants' offense.
I can see the reasons for choosing Edwards over Boldin — not from a talent standpoint because Boldin is special — but because Edwards is similar to Burress. He is big, strong and has big-play ability on the outside, while Boldin is a catch-and-run guy. Get the ball to him in space and let him do his thing, which is fun to watch.
But I played against this offense in my career, and Edwards is a guy who can run the curl routes, the post routes and the deep dig routes — using his big body — to shed defenders and go after even the most off-target throws from Manning. New York’s big plays on the outside come from Manning throwing it up against man coverage to a receiver who is physically dominant over the cornerback.
Burress gave the Giants that luxury — and I think Edwards would as well.
So, if the Giants choose to trade for one of these two high-profile wide receivers which one would you rather see in a Giants' uniform?
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Bowen
You can’t make the case any better than that as to why Edwards is a better fit, but his inconsistency last year is at least a little troubling. If the Giants don’t have to give up a main cog (i.e. Smith), then I’d be all for it because the potential is there. The Browns’ asking price has to come down.
I still maintain that Boldin is not going to get traded.
Bowen is terrific
He made a great case. The fact that he played the game, recently, is a tremendous asset to his work. As you say, the inconsistency is troubling. But, you have to wonder how much of that was because of the fact that he was in a losing, disorganized environment. If the Giants can get him for a couple of picks, no players, it’s a move worth strongly considering.
by Ed Valentine on Mar 24, 2009 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions
If Plax is back in NYG blue
I’d choose Boldin. I think the two of them would compliment each other and make the NYG offense SICK dangerous combined with the vaunted running game. If Plax does not come back, there will be more of a need for a downfield threat and in that case I’d choose Bowen. The problem is that if is turns bad for Plax (we’ll know on or about 3/31), the WR price will go WAY up. Perhaps it’s better for the NYG to make a move now.
Prior to joining the Giants
Plaxico had 60 and then 35 reception for the Steelers, earning a reputation for being inconsistent and fragile. In his short career, Edwards has also earned the same reputation.
Because he is younger and more likely to provide a deep threat, I’d rather choose Edwards, but in reality I think we’ll end up with neither. Better to keep our fingers crossed for someone productive to come from this year’s draft.
Edwards better fit
I think Boldin is the better overall receiver, but I think Edwards is a better fit. Edwards’ deep play ability will stretch defenses, and this will open up the running game. Also, we already have possession type receivers in Smith and Hixon, and will probably end up with another one in the draft. Edwards is also younger by a few years. And I don’t know about Boldin’s attitude, he’s made noise about his contract for a couple seasons now and openly argued with a coach during a crucial game, and Arizona was 4-1 without him last year.
Edwards definitely
While Boldin may have the production, he is a little older and may have a future problem with that big injury he had this year against the Jets. Who knows if another hit could end his career?? I would rather that happen on the Cardinals than to see the Giants give up a boatload of picks for him.
Edwards may have sucked last year and been inconsistent, but giant fans need only too look at how he played against us to see his potential.
Edwards is a TRUE #1 when he catches the ball. He’s big and tall, and very fast. He actually be a down field threat unlike Plaxico who never had that burst.
As for trading Steve Smith? I like Smith as our slot guy, but the reality is you can find slot guys in the draft. His dropping of deep balls as well as his always catching than falling down has been really frustrating to me, so I wouldn’t cry if he had to be traded. Id actually rather have Hixon cuz if we get another WR or 2 he can go back to returning kicks where we really missed him last year when he had to play WR.
Should the Giants get Edwards
then luck out as get say….Percey Harvin to be the slot guy? That would drastically improve team speed to levels Giants’ history has never seen. Speed is nice to have, especially when you don’t have to worry about being physical cuz well, our O-line and our Defensive End/Running back named Jacobs is pretty damn physical.
Sorry for the repeat posts
But I have to add that Edwards is not complaining about his contract. He’s gonna make 5 mill which is less than Burress ever would have.
He’s also young and could be a perfect fit for Eli. As far as I know he has more the attitude of Fitzgerald or Torry Holt than Plax or TO. As long as who we get knows that its Eli’s huddle.
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 24, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I can't decide
I’d have to hear from a Cleveland fan before I could make a decision. What is Braylon like, personality wise? Is he a prima donna like many other receivers in the league? Or is he a team player?
I just talked
to my co-worker, who is a Browns fan. He says that Edwards carries a big chip on his shoulder, but he gets the sense its mainly because he’s a Michigan guy playing in Ohio. That he might be a little bit of a prima dona, but definitely not to the level of the Ocho Cincos and TOs of the NFL.
Also, he thinks his struggles last year were mainly from the lack of weapons on offense … there was only Winslow because both Jurivecius & Stallworth were hurt. He said he’d be very happy if he stays and they probably want a lot in return.
Basically it sounds like he’d be a great addition , but the cost will probably be too high.
what if??
What would happen to the salary cap space that plax is taking up if he does get put in lock down???
A. Do we get to use a majority of it immediately if we release him??
or
B. Do we get stuck with a mamority for the remainder of this season?
I dont see
Boldin and TC getting along. Nor do I think he is the kind of guy who can take the NY pressure.
Plus Edwards and Osi could do 5 hour energy commercials together.
LOL on the 5 hour energy
But you are really dead wrong on the Boldin thing. That argument was just as much Todd Haley as Boldin.
Boldin is probably the model receiver to have on a team, tho as I will always state unless a miracle occurs the cost will be too high for him (think the trade for Edwards, + our first rounder and then we gotta give him a new contract or else we’d have the same situation as the Cardinals)
The guy also wasn’t arguing that he wasn’t being thrown the ball, he was arguing that he wasn’t hurt and wanted to be on the field. Id love to have an injured player fighting to stay on the field rather than crying about getting off the field.
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 24, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait and See
I would like to wait and see what happens with Plax’s trial next week. I think edwards would fit best sans burress and Boldin would be great opposite Plax. The question there would be if their ego’s and the salary cap would allow for that. But I do not wanna give up Steve Smith. I think he has a bright future and would feel very confident going into this season with him as No.2 as long as hix is not the number 1.
Edwards..
He’s bigger, younger and IMO more physically talented
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Braylon
I’ve been signing his praises since January 15th – just checked the email I sent my entire family comparing Edwards to Plax. Here is the entire text of that email:
I can’t get this awful taste out of my mouth. Anyway, I had a thought today. Clearly the Gmen need a big physical #1 WR. But I don’t feel comfortable giving up a lot for it (for example, according to the ESPN NFC East blogger Matt Mosley, Anquan Boldin would cost the Giants a #1 and a #3 dreaft pick).
Anyway, here’s my thought: why not Braylon Edwards? Take a look at the tables below (from football reference).
BE actually posted BETTER #‘s than Plax did while Plaxico was with the Steelers. I.e., there’s a good shot that the Giants could get a #1 on the cheap because his value is now so low because of the struggles he had last year.
When plax was w/ the steelers, he averaged 3.5 receptions per game (BE thus far: 3.85) for 57 yds/game (BE averages 60) with an average of 4.4 TD’s/season (BE has averaged 7 TD’s/season).
Re. his drops, BE had something like 16 drops (Dwayne Bowe, KC’s #1 had 13, Brandon Marshall, Denver’s #1, had 12, TO had 10) so he had WAY more than anyone else. But I would attribute that to the struggles that his offense had. I mean look at when their offense performed well, for example he absolutely TORCHED the Gmen in that game, something like 5 receptions for 150+ yds, and a TD.
When he is engaged and ON he is a force (pro bowler in 2007 when he averaged 5 catches a game for 80 yds w/ 16 TD’s!!). This guy has the ability to be a stud and I will bet that Cleveland would let him go for very little as he seems to have worn out his welcome there.
Anyway, suffice to say, I fully support a trade for Braylon – and I think it would not only take a king’s ransom to get Boldin but then you have to9 pay him close to $10m / yr.
I wish my family were Giants fans
If its gonna cost Steve Smith plus picks, Id pass
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
Compensatory Pick
The giants just got a free pick! They should up the ante to a 2nd, 3rd, plus Hixon. I know Reese loves the draft, and we would all trust his judgement if he would rather hoard picks. But I think this is a year they can afford to give up a couple.
The Giants should just Forget about Braylon. if braylon Edwards is going to be traded he will go to the Raiders!!!
The Raiders..
with what picks?
It's not easy being Giants fan in Philly.. but it sure is satisfying
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by Hoyadestroya85 on Mar 24, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
and what money?
It's not easy being Giants fan in Philly.. but it sure is satisfying
http://novafacts.blogspot.com
by Hoyadestroya85 on Mar 24, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions

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