A look around the league, SBN style

by Ed Valentine on Mar 16, 2009 12:00 PM EDT in New York Giants News

Let's take a tour of the other fine SB Nation football blogs today and see what they are talking about. It's been way too long since we have done that, so here goes.

Pride of Detroit mentions a story speculating that the Detroit Lions are targeting an offensive tackle with the No. 1 pick, and would then make a serious run at disgruntled Denver quarterback Jay Cutler.
Carolina Panther fans are not happy that their team apparently won't be going after free-agent wide receiver Torry Holt.
Niners Nation takes to task all the mock draft 'experts' who believe the 49ers will choose a QB with the 10th overall pick.
This is a couple of days old, but Dawgs By Nature wonders why the Cleveland Browns released starting right tackle Kevin Shaffer. Shaffer is a guy the Giants were interested in trading for a couple of seasons ago. If he will accept a backup role, I wonder if Giants' GM Jerry Reese would be interested in acquiring him now.
Here with the Giants our motto is always 'In Reese We Trust.' Baltimore Beatdown feels the same way about Ozzie Newsome.
If you can stand all the charts and graphs and stats that made my head spin, Phinsider has a detailed look at whether pass rushers or defensive backs are more important.
The Dallas Cowboys have extra picks in the upcoming NFL Draft, and Blogging the Boys is wondering who might be a willing trade partner.
Gang Green Nation wonders if the New York Jets would consider trading for Cleveland quarterback Derek Anderson.
Looking for info on the upcoming NFL Draft? Be sure to make SBN's Mocking the Draft a regular stop on your information-seeking adventure.
With Tom Brady back, Pats Pulpit is feeling pretty good about the 2009 New England Patriots.

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The Detroit situation is interesting..

because if they go after an offensive tackle.. it can alter the entire first round. Let’s hope they do and teams will be compelled to grab stafford and sanchez as need picks leaving the best players on the board for the Giants to jump at.

It's not easy being Giants fan in Philly.. but it sure is satisfying

http://novafacts.blogspot.com

by Hoyadestroya85 on Mar 16, 2009 12:20 PM EDT reply actions

True

It’s a very interesting scenario.

by Ed Valentine on Mar 16, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions

Were I the Lions GM,

I’d trade my # 1 for some good journeymen players. If I exercized the # 1, I would go for the top OLT. I understand that there are three realy good ones in the mix this year. I have a suspicion that the Giants will reduce their picks via a trade. If they got Detroit’s # 1, I’d love to see them pick the kind of OLT who’d be around for tweny yeqrs or so.

by blue gonz on Mar 16, 2009 1:02 PM EDT reply actions

If they got Detroit's pick

That pick would have to be Crabtree. The line is more than solid for now and while we do need depth, you couldn’t pass on a game changer like Crabtree.

by njgiant on Mar 16, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions

no way they'd trade up to number one.. .

if crabtree is still there at 5 or 6.. I could see them doing it.. but not at number one

It's not easy being Giants fan in Philly.. but it sure is satisfying

http://novafacts.blogspot.com

by Hoyadestroya85 on Mar 16, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions

That could very well be the case.

I would prefer an LT if we got the deal I described with Detroit, because:
1.It’s the second most important offensive posotion.
2.It usually takes a while to break in a rookie WR, whereas a blue chip LT can often be first rate from the get-go (think of Boselli and others.)
3. When TC had the first pick, he chose Boselli.
We have an outstanding O-line. Playing out of position, Diehl’s doing a bit more than adequate job, but think how much better the OL would be if Diehl moved back to his natural position. and the depth we’d have there. The OL has been remarkably injury-free, but that can’t go on forever. We’re due for someone to go down.
The odds against my fantasy coming true are high. If Detroit does keep its # 1, their most likely pick will be an OLT. I don’t see them going for any of the available QBs.
I’m surer many BBVers would want Crabtree; others, one of the USC LBs. Personally, if my fantasy scenarioplays, I think it more likely that the Giants go for an LB before a WR.

by blue gonz on Mar 16, 2009 2:46 PM EDT reply actions

I see what you're saying

but for this particular year, with the team we have, WR is the most pressing need right now. If we had an explosive WR that could get some seperation and cause havoc downfield, that would take some of the pressure off the line and running game. Teams could no longer stack the box and that would relieve a great deal of stress from the line. That being said, I do believe that all of the positions will be addressed by Reese and we will be just fine. Just talked to a big Eagles fan and he is worried about what we have done and what they have done.

by njgiant on Mar 16, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Detroit

if they do that, I think their fan base should be ecstatic that they finally have someone competent in the Front Office. I’m not sold on Stafford, especially for a team like the Lions that is so far from being competitive. People keep comparing them to the Falcons and Stafford to Matt Ryan, but there are huge differences – the Falcons were sabotaged by the Vick thing 2 years ago and a sniveling rat of a coach, and while their season was a disaster, they had talent on the roster. The Lions were sabotaged by an incompetent F.O. and a complete lack of talent outside of the WR position. Also, Matt Ryan led an overachieving team that had middle of the pack talent to the top of the ACC. Stafford led an underachieving team that had #1 in the nation talent to the middle of the pack in the SEC.

Anyway, if I were Lions GM, I’d first try to trade down and get multiple picks, but it seems like no teams want to move up that badly. If that’s not feasible, I’d take a cornerstone tackle #1, a few more offensive lineman in succeeding rounds, try to trade for Cutler (you know what you’re getting with him, as opposed to Stafford), hope to tread water this season (and that the new O-Line can keep Cutler alive), and then completely rebuild the defense the following season, and be ready to be a competitive team.

by cjmulrain on Mar 16, 2009 3:03 PM EDT reply actions

I'm with you on all points, cj

by blue gonz on Mar 16, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions

Though I agree that Stafford may not perform as well as Ryan did in his rookie year

I don’t place the blame for their demise last year completely on his shoulders. My wife went to Georgia and we live in South Carolina so we watch all their games. Georgia had no business being rated as high as they were pre-season. Moreno was overrated in my opinion and the offensive line was just ho hum. Stafford had no receivers to throw to and the offensive game plan was very predictable.

To me Stafford’s potential is unknown. He sets up like a pro quarterback but seems to make a lot of mental mistakes. But who knows how his confidence might have been helped by better receivers.

There has been some grumbling about Mark Rich’s coaching abilities in Bulldog country lately.

by giant fan since 57 on Mar 16, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions

has it been worse

since the tech loss?

It's not easy being Giants fan in Philly.. but it sure is satisfying

http://novafacts.blogspot.com

by Hoyadestroya85 on Mar 16, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions

I think the realization that they just weren't as good as the hype

was cemented when Alabama totally steamrolled Georgia. The halftime score was something like 31 to 0.

by giant fan since 57 on Mar 17, 2009 5:50 AM EDT up reply actions

Cutler should be careful.

He’s crying like a baby and wants out of Denver. I wonder how he would react if they were to trade him to Detroit. He should be careful what he wishes for. It could come true.

by njgiant on Mar 16, 2009 3:08 PM EDT reply actions

RE: Pass rushers or D-backs

the Broncos proved that without a pass rush your defensive backs are very vulnerable.. this year’s giants proved it toward the end of they year.. Corey Webster is essentially a shut down corner now and the Giants D still got exposed without a pass rush.. if a QB has all day, no defensive back will stay with a wide receiver

It's not easy being Giants fan in Philly.. but it sure is satisfying

http://novafacts.blogspot.com

by Hoyadestroya85 on Mar 16, 2009 4:38 PM EDT reply actions

can you believe

How close Corey Webster was to the scrap heap a year ago. He must be sending Spags flowers every week (or at least sending dead fish to Tim Lewis’s house)

by queler on Mar 16, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions