Kiper goes off on 'overrated' Cutler

by Ed Valentine on Mar 11, 2009 12:48 PM EDT in News Comment 23 comments

It's 'Wednesday Walk' day, and I don't mean to steal jrs' thunder -- well, maybe I do -- but that's not the point. I had to mention the absolute beatdown that Mel Kiper gave unhappy Denver quarterback Jay Cutler the other day.

Kiper says (Matt) Cassel would have been an "upgrade" over Cutler and that Cutler is, to put it mildly, overrated.

"[Cutler] throws one pass, he's a Hall of Famer," Kiper says. "I've seen the media put him in the Hall of Fame. I had to run to the bathroom quick. It was making me ill. I've been hearing this overhype.

"This guy was overhyped at the combine, he was overhyped at Senior Bowl week, he's been overhyped before he was drafted. The media, they love Jay Cutler. Jay Cutler can do no wrong. I've been saying he's overrated since day one. Everyone's been pounding their chests saying, 'Oh, I love Jay Cutler, I'm a genius.' They have egg on their face now."

Kiper points out that Cutler has yet to lead the Broncos to a winning record or a playoff appearance. Also, Kiper says, "[Cutler] makes throws that leave you scratching your head, which I said on draft day when he was picked. Yeah, he's got a strong arm, but my daughter knew he had a strong arm. She could've written that report."

Kiper compares Cutler to Jeff George. "Jeff George had a great arm, and Jeff George had a lot of great games in this league, and people were putting Jeff George in the HOF early in his career," Kiper says. "So I'm just telling you, this is ridiculous."

I am no fan of Kiper. But, you have to admit that is one great rant right there.

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Poor Jay Cutler.

What did he do wrong?

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Mar 11, 2009 1:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Being equated with Jeff George

ain’t good.

by blue gonz on Mar 11, 2009 2:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, its pretty bad

I’d be very surprised if anyone is that dumb though. I don’t care if Cutler has a 10 cent head. George couldn’t even make up a penny.

by potroast on Mar 11, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Kiper is a Douche

First, Kiper does not like to admit he is wrong. He picked Young and Leinart ahead of Cutler. Both are on the bench!! Jay was an All Pro last year. His numbers are better than Elway’s in the first three years and he did the following last year as a Bronco.

Set a Denver Franchise Record in Yards 4,356, completions and “8” 300 yard games.

So I ask – is Kiper right? No, he is just a douche!!

by Alec From Vandy on Mar 11, 2009 2:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Don't forget, Elway played on a horrible team the first few years.

by giant fan since 57 on Mar 11, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You are completely wrong.

Jay Cutler certainly was not All Pro last season. Drew Brees was the All Pro Team QB. Stats don’t mean anything. Plus it’s difficult to compare the game of now to the game of the 80s. It’s much pass oriented.

by rocket1090 on Mar 27, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I have to agree with Alec From Vandy in some respects… especially that Kiper NEVER admits when he’s wrong. Did anyone see when he went off like a child in a spat with Todd McShay? McShay just gave his opinion and Kiper went nuts citing all these draft picks that were so highly touted and never made it. I’ve got news for you MEL, if you cite every NFL draft bust of all time in arguments about this year’s NFL draft, you’d be spouting off for weeks.

…besides, if anyone is overrated between Cutler/Cassel, it’s probably Cassel, who has been the second best QB on his team up until this upcoming year. I’m not absolving Cutler, he’s a baby. But he’s a lot more proven than Matt Cassel is.

by TheSaltineWarrior on Mar 11, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I wanted to add this to the walk

But its an Insider story, couldn’t access it.

Not to be a Jay Cutler apologist, but I hate Grandpa Al Kiper and only dislike Cutler, so I am now officially rooting for Jay Cutler to throw for 2 billion yards this year, throw 8 TD’s to win the AFC Championship game over the Patriots or Colts, and then of course, lose to the Giants in the Super Bowl.

Although even if that happened, Kiper would say after the Super Bowl “Told you Cutler was no good.”

Again, not apologizing for Jay Cutler, he’s definitely a diva, a loudmouth, and a pain innee ass, but I am not sure how a guy that threw for 25 TD’s and 4500 yards last year is “overhyped”.

I could name you at least 10 teams that would take him over what they have in a heartbeat.

He’s somewhat contradicting himself when he says “Cutler throws one pass and he’s in the Hall of Fame”, but somehow Cassel played 15 games and he’s better than Cutler? Have we learned nothing from Scott Mitchell?

Cassel had a nice season, but he did it when absolutely nothing was expected of him. Now he is “The Man”, and he doesn’t have one of the best coaches in sports history to guide him. There may be a speed bump or two on the way to Canton for Cassel too.

Giants fan from the womb to the tomb

by Jim Schmiedeberg on Mar 11, 2009 2:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Cutler vs. Kiper

I am trying not to take sides. I just thought the rant was so outstanding that it would stir up some comments. Especially since it was Kiper.

by Ed Valentine on Mar 11, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh I know

Kiper just irritates me, he’s fingernails on a blackboard.

Giants fan from the womb to the tomb

by Jim Schmiedeberg on Mar 11, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Priceless

Where does Kiper get his cred? He’s wrong more often than he’s right. I remember at the draft last year he was all over the Giants because they didn’t take some safety from a smaller school (I’ve forgotten his name) instead of Phillips. He went on and on about how much better the other guy was and what a mistake it was to take Phillips. Would anybody give up Phillips for old what’s his name? Mel seems to forget that having strong opinions doesn’t guarantee that they’re any good. Cutler may have a ten cent head, but it’s far too early in his career to call him a wash out, or worse yet, compare him to Jeff George.

by Tucker Fredrickson on Mar 11, 2009 2:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Kiper

If you watch a draft show w/Kiper and McShay, Kiper absolutely hates to let McShay get a word in. It’s hilarious.

by Ed Valentine on Mar 11, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And I'll take Mike Mayock

Over Kiper when it comes to draft analysis anyday, and not just because Mayock is an ex-Giant

Giants fan from the womb to the tomb

by Jim Schmiedeberg on Mar 11, 2009 3:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Great rant

and he does have a point. Cutler threw for a lot of yards last year, but his team choked harder than the Jets, and that’s saying something. And he really is being a whiny little biatch. Also, I like Kiper a lot more than McShay, solely b/c McShay kept saying Flacco couldn’t possibly be good b/c he went to Delaware, while Kiper was all over Flacco. McShay’s draft evaluation is basically “he went to USC/Florida/Texas/Ohio St.” therefore he’s great." I hate McShay.

by cjmulrain on Mar 11, 2009 3:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

It was the Broncos...

not Jay Cutler. Jay Cutler did have his dumb mistakes, but the problem was not Cutler; it was the horrible Broncos’ defense. The game that knocked the Broncos out of the playoff picture, the Chargers scored 52 points on them. Those 52 were the defense’s fault not Cutler. With that being said, I hope he does end up as the next Jeff George, but realistically, Kiper is ranting off about his own personal opinion. An opinion, if anyone watched the Broncos the last couple years, is wrong. He can’t win because of the defense; not his skills.

by ChiefsFan90s on Mar 11, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The defense was the worst

I have ever seen as a Broncos fan. The oldtimers say it might be the worst ever for the Broncos period. My god that was painful to watch…

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by Jeremy Bolander on Mar 12, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think Cutler

is one of those media darlings that writers love because he gives them juicy soundbites

It's not easy being Giants fan in Philly.. but it sure is satisfying

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by Hoyadestroya85 on Mar 11, 2009 4:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i dont have anything against cutler or kiper

cutler is probably a whiner and kiper is full of poop so i could care less who wins this ‘battle’, but it is nice to see such a rediculous rant by kiper. and i agree that if someone stopped to point out every time kiper’s been wrong we’d be listening for quite a while. on the other hand, who cares about cutler?

HELLO HELLO MR WILPON. WE WANT THE MANSION NOT THE CONDO.

by kendynamo on Mar 11, 2009 4:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

A plague on both your houses?

I like that, ken,

by blue gonz on Mar 11, 2009 7:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Kiper is a first class Ass

Remember when he ripped the Colts in 94 for not drafting Trent Dilfer in 04 and sticking with Jim Harbaugh? What happened, Harbaugh took the Colts to the AFC title Game and two playoff appearances in a row and when that team crumbled were able to pick Peyton Manning. Dilffer was a bust, a carreer backup and an average one at best. (I don’t care he won a SB that was all D he had very little to do with it, Tony Banks started the first 5 or 6 games that season and Dilfer was the Backup). Kiper will never admit he was wrong. He still thinks he’s a genius for thinking Reggie Bush was a better pick than Mario Williams. Not that Williams is setting the league on fire but he’s a full time starter that can Rush the QB well. Bush is a 3rd down back that can’t stay healthy and run between the tackles. I’d take a full time D-lineman over 3rd down back any day of the week.

by Landeta on Mar 12, 2009 9:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

What did Kiper's hair say?

Was it just laying there, or did it get all fluffy?

Mayock>Mel Kiper’s Hair>Mel Kiper

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by Jeremy Bolander on Mar 12, 2009 10:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

JAy cutler

He didnt lead them to a super bowl
Well THats becasue Cutler cant win a super bowl by himself seriously look at that team they have wasted up defence and lost all their running backs last year there isnt one quaterback that could have brought the broncos to the super bowl lasy year or any year he has been there. An i would love to see the Giants get Cutler ( not to say i dont like eli) but Cutler is like top 3 or 4 in the NFL today

by bigblue272@yahoo.com on Mar 16, 2009 3:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

???

I think I’d rather keep a Superbowl MVP over an offseason crybaby. Get a load of the guy. He would not last in New York. The media would eat him alive and he’d be crying for another trade. He would be better off in Canada or the USFL or the XFL or something.

by njgiant on Mar 17, 2009 9:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs