Off-season Sunday open thread

by Ed Valentine on Feb 15, 2009 8:00 AM EST in New York Giants News

Open thread for today. It is Sunday, I am spending most of the day celebrating my son's birthday, and I have nothing new.

Chat about baseball, the NBA slam dunk contest, Roger Goodell's sliced salary, anything you like.

Enjoy the day!

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Who wants to play def. coordinator?

I’ve had this thought and wonder “what’s wrong with that idea…”

Most DBs are 6 feet or under. That leaves them susceptible to being out jumped for the ball like Holmes did in the SB.

Why doesn’t a DC look at a tall WR who doesn’t make it in NFL training camp and turn him into a DB? _ Picture a 6’ 4 DB swatting balls away from shorter recievers like it’s a basketball game. As a QB, would you be throwing towards him? The guy WAS a reciever in college, that’s why he was drafted, no? Which “reciever” comes down with the ball if you do?

Ok, you’d throw low under him >>> the underneath cover guy intercepts it or it gets tipped at the line. Bad things usually happen when a ball is tipped at the line!

Use him in nickel, dime, and goal line packages

What am I missing here?

by NY17NE14 on Feb 15, 2009 9:53 AM EST reply actions

Not that easy

At the NFL level I don’t think it’s that simply. The techniques, the footwork, the ability and willingness to tackle in run support. For the most part there is a reason some guys play offense and some play defense. If you have never done it I don’t think there are many players who could learn it at the NFL level.

by Ed Valentine on Feb 15, 2009 10:19 AM EST up reply actions

I thought you were taking the day off? ( Junkie!!! )

The techniques, the footwork, the ability and willingness to tackle in run support.

He was athletic enough in college to play WR and to get drafted. David Tyree is a WR who is a special teams standout. If you’re willing to get blown up catching the ball over the middle, why won’t you want to be the hammer for a change?

If his job is to cover Fitzgerald or Moss and ends up having to tackle the runner, where the hell are your linebackers? (…AP???)

It’s just an observation about the game that made me wonder.

by NY17NE14 on Feb 15, 2009 12:25 PM EST up reply actions

Defensive backs

spend most of their time shadowing receivers who have preplaned routes. They have to stop on a dime, change direction, and use short bursts of speed to catch up when they get fooled. I don’t think many tall guys can do that too well. If they could teams would be using guys taller than the receivers so they could never get outjumped.

My guess is that to be an all around performer in the secondary the optimum size is just over 6’.

NY17…You’ve been watching that Lebron James commercial about playing for the Browns where he slaps the ball back in the kicker’s face, haven’t you? I like that commercial.

by giant fan since 57 on Feb 15, 2009 11:59 AM EST reply actions

No it wasn't the Lebron commercial

though I do have legal proceedings in the works about that; but I can’t discuss that publicly.

Anyways…

defensive backs spend most of their time shadowing receivers…

He is a RECEIVER!!?? He should know the workings of a reciever better than a defensive player. If matched with a man of equal size or slightly less, wouldn’t they have the same limitations cutting, starting and stopping?

I also figure there must be a reason or like you said THEY’d be doing it. I just haven’t heard who tried and why it didn’t work. The idea seems to have some merit to me.

It’s just a thought that has been bouncing around in my empty little head and the open thread was an opportunity to let it out.

by NY17NE14 on Feb 15, 2009 12:52 PM EST up reply actions

being a cornerback is all about the hips

the quick hip guys are always the corners
and most recievers are just not quick hip guys

by shenkthetank92 on Feb 15, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions

for real?

What, they need to backpedal and swivel at the hips to change to a forward run?
is that it? Are there test at the combine or something that tests them? I think I recall seeing guys do a drill like that, but just thought it was another hoop they just made them jump thru. I’m interested!!

by NY17NE14 on Feb 15, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions