For your consideration: Torry Holt
We know, of course, that our New York Giants will be looking to upgrade the wide receiver position for 2009.
Could Torry Holt be a solution?
The National Football Post reports that the St. Louis Rams might be shopping the 7-time Pro Bowler this off-season.
If so, are you interested?
I'm not. Holt caught 91 or more passes every season from 2002-2007. He be 33 next season, though, and is coming off a 64-catch 2008. He averaged 49.8 receiving yards per game, down from his career average of 80.1. That is his least productive year since his 1999 rookie season.
If he was a free agent I might take a chance on a one-year deal. I don't, however, want to see the Giants give up draft picks, even late round ones, for a guy who no longer appears to be a true impact player.
Your thoughts?
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I thought he was older than 33....
But I still don’t want him
Giants fan from the womb to the tomb
by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 10, 2009 8:12 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'd say no UNLESS
you show me tape of last year where defenses are commiting two DBs to cover him. If they are, I wouldn’t be so concerned that his numbers are down. If he can keep them from putting 8 men in the box, isn’t that why everyone is so willing to take Plaxico back after being such self-centered, I’ll do whatever I want, I don’t have to answer to you, you can’t live without me, I won you the SuperBowl, spoiled brat,distraction since he got here?
(UGH!!!! The guy’s gotta go!)
by NY17NE14 on Feb 10, 2009 9:27 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Holt
is an incredible Wide Receiver. He’s been overshadowed by some of the flashier receivers, but his career numbers actually show him to be up there with TO, Moss, and Marvin Harrison: he’s 11th in all-time receptions, 14th in receiving yards, 26th in TDs (but that list is very bunched, he’s 16 TD’s away from the top-10), and perhaps most importantly, he’s second all-time in receiving yards per game. Just for a comparison, here’s another once great receivers numbers from his last season with a crappy team:
42 Receptions, 553 Yards, 3 TD, 42.5 YPG
This particular receiver was coming off 3 straight subpar seasons by his standards, while Holt has only had one down year. The next season, on a much, much, much, much better team, that same receiver put up this line:
98 Receptions, 1493 Yards, 23 TDs, 93.3 YPG
Now, I’m not suggesting that the Giants are gonna go all Bill Bellichick and start passing on 4th downs and whatnot next year, but Randy Moss obviously still had a lot in the tank. Holt is 2 years older than Moss was last year, so obviously it’s slightly different, but I think he’s still got some skills. I wouldn’t give up a high draft pick for him, but I’d be willing to give up a 4th rounder or lower.
by cjmulrain on Feb 10, 2009 9:36 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hell Yeah!
Nuff-said.
Nothing Is Fool proof if you have the right fools.
by GiantsCauseway on Feb 10, 2009 9:44 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Other Guys
I don’t follow this very closely… but aren’t Larry Fitzgerald and Anquon Boldin both free agents?
I like Plax. I feel bad throwing him under the bus. But he screwed the Giants when he shot himself with an unregistered gun. And he is probably going to jail.
So if the Giants cut Plax and sue him for a chunk of that signing bonus, would they not have the cap room for either Fitzgerald or Boldin?
My first choice is Fitzgerald.
Go Giants!
My dying words will be 'Go Giants!'"
by wankerboy on Feb 10, 2009 10:06 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fitz...
Is signed to a fat new deal. If the Giants were to acquire Boldin, it will have to be by trade, I believe he has one year left on his deal as well.
Giants fan from the womb to the tomb
by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 10, 2009 10:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he one year left
But the Cards can’t afford it with their current cap situation. Fitz would would have to alter his deal
by queler on Feb 10, 2009 12:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wankerboy
Don’t feel bad about throwing Plax under the bus! PLAXICO put Plaxico under the bus!
I really liked him too, but I feel more strongly that the TEAM concept is why and how we won the SB and there comes a time when you have to say enough is enough.
I think highly enough of his talent that I REALLY don’t look forward to seeing him on the opposite side the field. It’s frustrating to think of what the future held, if only he’d understood that in life WE ALL have to do things we don’t like.
And that doesn’t make you less of a man!
by NY17NE14 on Feb 10, 2009 10:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
G57: thanks for affirming my thoughts
It’s not a popular “branch” to be out on, but it is the right one!
by NY17NE14 on Feb 10, 2009 7:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If Larry Fitzgerald was a FA
I would cut half the team to sign him. He’s that good. But, alas, he’s not, and probably never will be.
by cjmulrain on Feb 10, 2009 11:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No Holt
No go on Holt. This man is over the hill and their are rich WR’s entering the draft. I would love to see Boldin join the G-Men, but they would have to give up a lot to the Cards.
by BettorFan on Feb 10, 2009 11:15 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I would have to say pass on Holt.
I think the reality of the NFL now is that you can get more out of the draft than you can through free agency. I think with JRs ability to select quality players through the draft and develop them is a great thing. Bouldin might be the exception this season but if we get Burress back and Bouldin we will have some decisions to make.
by GiantRB27 on Feb 10, 2009 11:59 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
we have two big holes
JR’s awesome, but they should probably fire whoever their LB scout is. We haven’t done great there. We also have got to alter rookie camp in some way to prevent EVERY WR we’ve drafted in the last three years from severely pulling their quad in camp
by queler on Feb 10, 2009 12:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He could be a cap cut eventually
If so, get him then. I agree that they shouldn’t give up picks for him.
by drunkUncle on Feb 10, 2009 12:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
this is tough
if they’re shopping him for a 5th or 6th round pick or a conditional pick based on performance.. signing him may be a good option.. but anything higher than that i’d say no..
It's not easy being Giants fan in Philly.. but it sure is satisfying
by Hoyadestroya85 on Feb 10, 2009 1:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Holt/Toomer
Depending on how much it cost to acquire him Holt could fill the position that Toomer has now. A veteran WR that could move the chains.
by John W on Feb 10, 2009 2:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I love Toomer
but Holt is far, far better than him. Now, and at their peaks.
by cjmulrain on Feb 10, 2009 6:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Holt
Why not? He’s a proven, expert WR. But the Gmen can likely sign him for nothing. Don’t you think STL will simply release him? With Spags coming in and the skill position players they have (ie Steven Jackson) I’m sure they will become a pound-the-ball team that tries to hang around in games and steal wins on Defense and special teams. So Holt has got to see the writing on the wall and know that he will get phased out. I think the Gmen could likely get him on the cheap and why wouldn’t you add a classy Pro-Bowl caliber WR like that?
by Cody K on Feb 10, 2009 2:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
But Ed.....
If he’s going to be a member of this team; you need to learn how to spell his name right!!
TORREY!
by Cody K on Feb 10, 2009 2:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ha ha!
That makes three different ways I have seen it — Tory, Torry and Torrey. To be honest I don’t think either of us is right. St. Louis Post Dispatch has it Torry. That, I would think, is correct.
by Ed Valentine on Feb 10, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty sure it's Torry
two "r"s, no "e"s.
by cjmulrain on Feb 10, 2009 6:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You guys are CRAZY!
It is TORRY HOLT i have his rookie card plus NFL.COM and Yahoo have it spelled Torry.. but who cares i would take him give them back Moss or a 5th rounder.. just incase plax goes to jail or gets a suspension which he shouldnt because he already did.. also covers us missing Toomer.. Holt is amazing reciever and you forget the rams sucked this year Holt was most def tripple covered specially while Steven Jackson was hurt and then played like trash and btw the rams offensive line stunk it up bad this year and bulger was beat to hell… So yes go for Holt i could see it now plax and holt lining up together WOW! Superbowl here we come… go GMEN! And we need a sick line backer in the draft this year im sick of wasting high picks on recievers it hasn’t really been worth it yet…
by gobs56 on Feb 10, 2009 3:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Holt is only 1yr and 2months older then PLAX… trust me we could use Holt even with plax….
by gobs56 on Feb 10, 2009 3:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
St. Plaxico: Check out this article
If you think some of us are “just pickin on poor Plax” check this out
www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/giants/2009-02-09-burress-ap_N.htm?csp=34
“I think he was just an immature screwup,” Malin said.
by NY17NE14 on Feb 10, 2009 9:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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