New York Giants evening notes: 'Dirtbag' might face suspension
According to ESPN, Dallas Cowboy Flozell 'Dirtbag' Adams might be facing a suspension for his actions toward Justin Tuck Sunday.
Adams deserves one, no doubt. And Tom Coughlin agrees. Even if he won't say it exactly that way.
"I think that there is no place in our game for the act that he took," said Coughlin.
Michael Boley said he was impressed by the work of young linebackers Jonathan Goff and Clint Sintim Sunday.
"They did good. I haven’t had a chance to get in to watch the film but from what I saw and felt on the field I thought they did a pretty good job," Boley said. "Each person brings something different to the field. Goff’s first start, he was excited, he was real up-tempo and upbeat, and you like that, especially when you have guys in there who are kind of new to it. They hit it running and hit it going full speed, so it’s good."
Justin Tuck will be part of a group of athletes who will preside over the ringing of the Nasdaq Opening Bell Tuesday morning. All Stars Helping Kids foundation founder and NFL Hall of Famer Ronnie Lott will join Tuck, Raiders cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha, women's basketball pioneer Nancy Lieberman, Olympian and World Champion sprinter Lauryn Williams and MLS All Star Stuart Holden for the bell-ringing ceremony. Fans can watch the ceremony on Tuesday at 9:15 a.m. by launching this link: http://www.nasdaq.com/about/
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Suspended for the rest of the season
I wish phillips had a backbone.
Plax shot himself in the leg, and we got rid of him.
The cowboys organization is classless if they don’t do something of their own accord.
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
"Osi is probably one of our worst db's but he did alright there"
In all fairness
We tried to keep Plax but he just refused to act contrite about his actions so he had to go.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 7, 2009 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
but only after punishing him, and jeopardizing our season.
Phillips bitches about getting no respect, but that’s exactly why. He had no spine.
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
"Osi is probably one of our worst db's but he did alright there"
Phillips has no power!!!
I would say Wade has a spine but he has an owner who undercuts his authority. JJ has a history of hiring coaches that will bend to JJ’s wims and let’s face it He pulled Wade off the scrap heap to come in and coach the cowboys.
The only coaches who were there own men were Jimmy Johnson and Parcells.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 7, 2009 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
True yet sad
That type of stuff shouldn’t happen tough.
So much for a tougher wade…
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
"Osi is probably one of our worst db's but he did alright there"
Seemed like every time the Giants had a ball carrier held up
Goff was right in the middle trying to rip the ball out. I like that. He almost got a FF when Choice coughed it up but it got overturned.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
Goff went for the ball
one of these times, he’s going to get the forced fumble
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
"Osi is probably one of our worst db's but he did alright there"
One game...
but Goff played well enough that signs point to him as the present and future MLB of the Giants.
Seems like a pretty damn good one too.
"It ain't over till its over"---
I hope he does, he deserves it.
Great win yesterday - absolutely huge for playoff implications. The defense played surprisingly well- including gulp CC Brown. Eli didn’t impress me that much but he sure didn’t lose the game.
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
CC?
He did OK actually..that was more #26 Rouse who was all over the place.
I agree on Eli, there were a whole lot of plays to be made that were left out there…for the most part do to him.
…tho, even when he was on with the ball, Manningham doesn’t know where he is in the corner of the field (he doesn’t like corners of the field apparently….see :Cardinals game). Steve Smith…ugh…catch the ball.
I just want the Giants to at least and come out ready for the Eagles. They weren’t that last time.
If they prepare like they did for this week…I think they’ll come ready. The outcome…we’ll see.
"It ain't over till its over"---
sounds like
your starting to see the value in having the big body out there for Eli to throw to.
As much as i love our WR’s and our QB…. passes are not always going to be “on the mark”. We could use another spider man out there rescuing those passes….
I know u know who i’m talking about FB…lol.
"If you don't know what you're doing... just rush the quarterback" - LT
it does?
Sorry man..I don’t think I’ll ever be swayed to see how Plax was such a “spider-Man” and would’ve helped us yesterday.
A the only on would be the Manningham one where the INT happened….that’s it. Nothing else, would a bigger body out there help.
The Steve Smith in the back of the EZ drop??? I’ve seen Plaxico drop entirely too many of those…..
The ONLY, repeat ONLY think Plaxico would be helping us with, at it goes for Toomer too, is blocking.
That’s it. That’s where we miss those guys, in the running game and those pinch blocks of LB’s.
That’s where a WR of Manningham’s stature, and Smith’s ‘style’ hurts, and where someone like Nicks and eventually Barden will help.
But as far as pass catching, and helping Eli out? Pretty much a media myth…..
"It ain't over till its over"---
I know FB...that was a joke.
you and I don’t exactly see eye to eye in regards to Barden so i was just poking fun at the situation.
"If you don't know what you're doing... just rush the quarterback" - LT
oo.
Barden.
Barden I agree with, maybe he will eventually.
I must be mixing you up with one of the “If we had Plaxico or a ’star WR” we’d be better on O" peoples.
Eventually, yea, Ramses could be Eli’s go to guy.
Given the fact the Giants could probably use a 4th WR..and the other rookies on defense playing…there just has to be something there that say Coughlin wants to wait with Barden.
Coughlin grew up a WR coach, so he knows what he’s doing with WR.
"It ain't over till its over"---
well, IMO Barden is going to be a Star
so you could lump me into that category lol. I also don’t see how it would hurt.
but i’m more about having a big body for Eli to throw to. Especially on the outside.
I like all our WR’s, but i think Barden has a better chance to contest with some of those passes that Eli throws.
also, in defense of plax, he did make some unreal catches for us…the one that stands out the most was the TD vs Philly where he brought the ball down over two guys in the endzone. Those were the good ’ol days…when Philly used one of their safeties to double plax all game long.
"If you don't know what you're doing... just rush the quarterback" - LT
every quarterback in the history of the NFL benefits from having big receivers
I love our trio, but it’s pure physics that a talented 6’6 receiver is a better target than a talented 5’11 receiver. I don’t think anyone is putting Eli or Steve Smith or Mario Manningham or Hakeem Nicks down when they point that out. A healthy, motivated, and not shot in the thigh Plaxico Burress WOULD help our offense, but it’s not like we need him. The pass game has been just fine without him
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
meh....debatable.
I just don’t see it.
The fact Plax balled against the Eagles is one thing….
the media myth that him being so big was a big deal, is another.
They simply didn’t use his height like that…not like say…Rivers does with Jackson and Floyd in SD.
They always throw balls down the field. Just up for grabs most of the time too.
I’d rather have shifty WR who can get open.
BIg WR are great…if you use em.
Plax’s best trait was his run blocking.
…oh yea, A different Manning says big WR don’t mean dillsnick, so don’t give me that every Qb in history stuff.
Its nice…yea, but you gotta use it. Eli an the Giants rarely used it. I’d say they used Toomer more for his ability.
"It ain't over till its over"---
I'm sure Peyton would laugh at it.
Yes, he’s the GOAT.
But he’ll say he wants a WR who he knows can get out the breaks quicker.
Unless your Randy Moss of course (and no one is.)
"It ain't over till its over"---
Barden
The kid gets no separation. If he played in respectable d1 conference we would have seen that he cant get separation on athletic and bigger corners. It was a decent pick with huge upside, i just don’t see it panning out. I can go on about Ramses, but he lacks the lateral speed and burst to be effective in the NFL. I think it might be worth throwing him in the slot and letting him split the safties, could cause some good match ups outside and trouble defenses.
But i dont think he has what it takes to be anything more than a backup/matchup guy.
Call me crazy but if a guy like Golden Tate falls to the third round in this years draft, i think it would be worth picking him – he also serves as an elite returner.
I agree on Tate...
at least the drafting him part…but he’s not lasting to round 3 and the Giants have other needs.
I dunno how you say that on Ramses…guys like Brandon Marshall and Vincent Jackson played the same level of comp, had similar athletic measurables (aside from Ramses being taller, bigger hands…and actually faster than Brandon Marshall…)
I think it more a route running/need thing.
They don’t need him right now, and why not just store him in practice till he’s ready.
What you say really has no basis (and also, watching his action in preseason says its wrong…not the greatest indicator, but does say there’s something there).
He’ll be there next year, just like Manningham, they’d rather he learn from the sideline and practice reps.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Dec 8, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
I'm thinking, you can teach seperation
By technique, and how the DB may lineup on (you) a receiver, which you counter with what you know? This is probably the learning curve he’s going through now. Adjusting to the talent level that he hadn’t encountered at Cal Poly.
But i know one thing you can’t teach, size! Barden can still have a nice career, once he gets everything together. Even if that means he’ll be no better than a #3, but he could be a situational weapon in the redzone. IF, used properly!
This eagles game is the absolute biggest game of the year......
i was gonna say since the Super bowl but the last home game last year against the Panthers was pretty big for home field but I fully expect the boys to come out swinging sunday night………..Im so pumped i wanna kick some1’s ass right now…………
by giantsNYrangers on Dec 7, 2009 7:07 PM EST up reply actions
Joe D full of suprises
Joe You still got the coolest icon out!
by Late for Dinner on Dec 7, 2009 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
Dallas = Jerry
It comes from the top. Wade is an extension of Jerry Jones, a man of truely questionable character.
There seemed to be a lot more defensive emotion on the field Sunday. Can Sheridan bottle it? Was it the younger guys?
Get Osi out of pass coverage. He may be semi one-dimensional but rushing the passer is what he does. Dropping him in coverage is a bad idea.
Jerry Jones
Actually I think Jerry is a good owner, He just happens to be a terrible GM.
But I never knock an owner that wants to win as bad as Jerry does.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 7, 2009 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
he is...
Daniel Snyder is too!
Its just, they need to be far from football operations.
When Parcells was there, they were not only good cuz he’s a great coach, but cuz he was buying the groceries.
"It ain't over till its over"---
"Never Hire a GM you can't fire" Wellington Mara
by Late for Dinner on Dec 7, 2009 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
I think a lot of owners go through the I can do it myself phase that Dallas and Washington Owners are going through. Rember the NFL had to make us hire a George Young back in the 80’s after basically becoming the Detroit Lions of football in the 70’s. I guess Al Davis’s excuse is back in the day he used to be able to draft and sign FA’s and win SB’s and he still thinks he can
by Late for Dinner on Dec 7, 2009 6:45 PM EST up reply actions
ah yes...
the days before I was a scratch in my daddies pants…
What you say is very true. Those owners with a clue will/should eventually realize that they don’t have one when it comes to drafting and putting the team together.
Until Dallas and the Redskins do……
"It ain't over till its over"---
Suspension
Yeah he should definitely be suspended for at least one game. That was one the most blatant cheap shots I’ve seen since Haynesworth’s head stomp.
Cry Baby
When are the Giants, going to stop being a bunch of cry babies. There calling Flozzell a dirt-bag for pushing Tuck. Tuck need to realize that this is a contact sport and he might occasionally get hit. Speaking of Wade having a back bone, the Giants organization should have one as well. I seem to remember Coughlin being on the hot seat, every one wanted him out, then he wins a couple and sudden he the second coming, give me a break. They had a good win, but come on, there still third in the division, and if the redskins didn’t suck so bad, they might be fourth. Get over yourself Giants, its not like your 12-0, stop acting like you won the superbowl, speaking of which, how is your super bowl savior Tyree doing?
We aren't calling him that
I am using the word Tuck used to describe him in his post-game comments. I am not getting into this with you. There is no place in football for the kind of moronic, dirty crap Adams pulls over and over again.
Other than that, we aren’t going to argue with you. Not worth the time and effort.
not even worth arguing with. flozell is a dirty and cheap player who plays for a classless organization who hasnt won a playoff game in well.. you do the math
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
I don't think he can
his hands don’t have enough fingers
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
good to see we got a sore loser in the house.
Yea, you get hit in football.
But dirt bags, and people with no respect for the game do stuff like Flozell did after the whistle.
He’s a POS who a rational Cowboys fan would know that what he did was wrong.
No one’s on here like we won the SB, read a few comments above for that.
Its not like beating Dallas is all that big a deal, you give your team too much credit…we did this already this year….
"It ain't over till its over"---
Completely agree with you.
I am a lifelong Cowboys fan from New Jersey and I have had enough of Flozell Adams. His antics are just despicable. As hard as the loss was last night I don’t want him on my team any longer. AS soon as it happen I had hoped that the refs would have ejected him from the game. Tuck even let the BS that he did in game 2 go. He is such a POS.
The thing is..
.you guys need him, at least for the rest of the year.
While Doug Free is servicable for now…imagine at LT and McQuistan at RT or maybe even Lenard Davis at LT?
If Goodell has any clue on how to sheriff his game (Ocho-Cinco should not be priority one…), he’ll suspend Flozell.
Against the Chargers…it could be a big loss.
"It ain't over till its over"---
If Ocho get a bigger penalty than Flozell
I’m going to be pissed off.
Nothing I can do about it, but than i’ll know the NFL has no morals, despite anything they say.
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
"Osi is probably one of our worst db's but he did alright there"
If Flozell get's suspended for the Chargers game that would be a huge loss
Somebody former player, current player Dion, Michael Irvin, should have a sit down with Flozell and explain to him that he is hurting the team when he does stupid crap like that. Kind of Reminds me of when we had that knuckle head Bob Whitfiled out there head butting people
by Late for Dinner on Dec 7, 2009 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
I see your point, but
I believe this would send a message to the players to not do stupid crap like that. I wouldn’t be happy if we lost but I don’t think he would do it again if we lose an important game to the chargers partially because of him. Some of the team would yell at him about it, not that whale my team calls a head coach.
"not that whale my team calls a head coach."
rofl
Someone needs to tell him off on that team of yours. That’s unacceptable what he does.
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
"Osi is probably one of our worst db's but he did alright there"
Amazing
Absolutely the funniest line a non-Giants fan has ever uttered in the comments on this site. LOL!!
by Ed Valentine on Dec 7, 2009 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah...
Its the only local team that I actually like. I grew up in Livingston and hated all of the upper class people in the town. As a result I chose to cheer for the rivals of all of the local teams… Giants-Cowboys, Yankees-Red Sox, Rangers-Devils.
Cowboy, Devil, and Red Sox fan.....
Wow…..
Since your obviously not an a-hole..I won’t rip any farther than that.
"It ain't over till its over"---
DEVILS!
Lets see if joisey can win two next year.
(Nets don’t count. They want to move to brooklyn)
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
"Osi is probably one of our worst db's but he did alright there"
Lol
how bout them rangers?
103 shutouts is just sweet…
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
"Osi is probably one of our worst db's but he did alright there"
they'll be alright.
Dubinsky going down has hurt more than anyone thinks.
Could use a tough dude on the roster.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Dec 8, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
Somebody must have got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning
Adad- Umm we have won a SB recently so nobody is comparing this to even a playoff win. I think if you bothered to read the board most fans thought it was a hard fought game we just as easily could have lost
Wade is obviously on the hot seat yes like Coughlin and it’s being discussed the only way Wade is saving his job is to make a long run in the playoffs how is tha saying Wade has no backbone?
By the way do you know a cowboy fan that calls himself romohom because you guys sound like you could be related.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 7, 2009 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
lol
I think this guy mentally zoned out everything that’s happened since the Cowboys beat the Giants in the regular season back in 2007.
I seem to remember Coughlin being on the hot seat, every one wanted him out, then he wins a couple and sudden he the second coming, give me a break
Umm…yea, I’d say he won a couple. As in, he won a couple of playoff games and a Super Bowl. He hasn’t been on the hot seat in over 2 years.
I also find amusement in your saying that if the Redskins didn’t suck so bad, the Giants might be in 4th. Yea, and if the Rams didn’t suck so bad, the Saints might be tied with them for best record in the NFC. The Giants are a game behind the Cowboys, who they’ve swept this year, and the Giants have faced the tougher schedule to date. Let’s see how it shakes out at the end of December, huh?
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
You are an idiot..Try somehow if at all possible to think rationally..
Flozell Adams is dirt and I will bet he gets his fat ass suspended this week…Your really true fans have even had it with him..and leave my guys alone moron..Go take your Poodle for a walk pansey..When you learn a little bit about football and respect, then come back in for a visit..Until then leave my guys alone and get lost..loser…The only thing we lacked yesterday was the team didn’t or forgot to hand out “pooper-scoopers” to pick up the crap your team was laying all over the field..I tell ya what..I’ll pay you $6.00/hour to clean that crap off of our field so we can prepare for our next victim, the Eagles..Look in your rear-view mirror, buddy..see that Big Blue Helmet?..We’re closing in.
coughlin didnt just win a couple, he won the superbowl.
"Yes we lost and yes we are upset. But like all Champs we will bounce back."
Osi umenyiora
by donnybaseball23 on Dec 7, 2009 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
Hey Amees dad...
go tell your daughter that the Knicks are 4-1 in December.
Suck on that noodle for a minute.
"It ain't over till its over"---
Adams
My tv went out as the game was going to the half, so I missed the fight and did not see what Adams did. Last thing I heard before the picture came back was, “There’s a scrum on the sideline.” So I take it he shoved Tuck when Tuck wasn’t looking…classy usual Dallas play.
they didn't really show anything...
they went to commercial rather quickly…
"If you don't know what you're doing... just rush the quarterback" - LT
Yeah they showed it..
He hit Justin right in the back..The bench cleared..I wish LT was still here with us he’d have ate him..Just like the Redskins game in ‘86 where he stood in front of them and challenged them all to try to take a piece of him..He said:"C’mon I’ll take y’all on"..They all backed away from him..If LT was on that field Bozoell would have been carted off the field.
rofl
I could just imagine LT there.
LT would have ripped him apart.
Tuck has a lot of class though, didn’t take the bait on flozella.
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
"Osi is probably one of our worst db's but he did alright there"
Filthy Cowboi's
Giant fans know how dirth the Cowboi’s really are, America’s team I think noe. Who made them that? Howard Cosell? That is 40 tears ago, now they are just a pile of trash.
Look at Yourselves
I don’t agree with what Flozell did, but all of you Giants fans need to look at your own team. The Giants are one of the dirtiest teams in the NFL but you don’t always get caught. Bobbiblue, you need to be a little less full of yourself. Your team lost their last 5 games before last night. The Eagles are your next victims? If Eli plays like he did against the Cowboys, you don’t stand a chance. Trust me, no-one is picking the Giants to make the playoffs so you’re not closing in.
by GladI'mNotAGiantsFan on Dec 7, 2009 8:31 PM EST reply actions
Bull..sit back and watch..The Giants are not dirty..and the rest of the Cowboys are not either
Don’t defend a moronis dirty player..I wouldn’t if it was a Giants player..Son
good.
I’m glad no one is picking the Giants.
…cuz no one cares what the ‘picks’ are.
"It ain't over till its over"---
and nice comment.
you signed up just for this?
Since you are glad you’re not a Giants fan..are you glad to be a fan of your ‘mystery team’?
Cuz I’m sure that your fan base is not glad to have you.
"It ain't over till its over"---
i hope no one picks the giants.
giants always win when no one expects it. when people pick them they lose and thy win when they are picked against .
"Yes we lost and yes we are upset. But like all Champs we will bounce back."
Osi umenyiora
by donnybaseball23 on Dec 7, 2009 9:24 PM EST up reply actions
Wake up and smell the coffee
You Giants fans need to get your priorities straight. Instead of moaning and groaning about a late hit that did not affect the game (how many late hits do you see in an average week of football? 20, 30?) you need to go find a coach that can lead and a quarterback that’s not afraid to get hit. Also some fans who know how to talk about football, not just trash talk and name calling. You’re still a game out guys. This is NOT your year. Go Saints!
by John Wayne's Ghost on Dec 7, 2009 10:11 PM EST reply actions
ooooo
says the fan of the team that won by the skin of your good luck.
I’m amazed at the amount of trolls that come out of the woodwork after the Giants win a game.
Is there a Troll Fraternity/Sorority where you people come from?
Do you all get scared once the Giants let the rest of the league that they aren’t dead?
You do know that teams like the Saints will always be teh Aints right? No matter if you go 16-0…Right?
Keep talking.
Karma almost nipped you in the cornhole this week.
Your good luck is about to run flat.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Dec 7, 2009 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
I was absolutely sure that all 3 were just the same person
but they come from 3 unique IP addresses, so unless it’s a really dedicated troll, I think it’s actually 3 different people. Amazing.
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
seriously?
I thought for sure they’d be the same people
What’s with all the trolling?
I guess everyone’s just scared of the giants.
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
"Osi is probably one of our worst db's but he did alright there"
Must be.
Scared, goes with the win.
Kinda surprised.
I really don’t think we’re completely out of the woods (obviously).
Karma must know something we all don’t.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Dec 7, 2009 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
and that wasn't a late hit
you fool.
Check the replay….Tuck was getting up and the HALF WAS OVER.
That’s not a late hit.
That’s a cheap shot.
The Redskins exposed your bare bungholes too.
You Not only got lucky with the Meacham fumble return, but a kicker missed a 23 yarder.
Tick..Tick …Tick…goes the good luck.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Dec 7, 2009 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
pot, meet kettle.
We ARE talking about football here, at least until the trolls started showing up. And sorry for mentioning that a guy who injured our best player with a dirty hit a few months ago came and took a cheap shot at him after the half was over on Sunday.
Also, what’s with the Coughlin bashing today? I’d almost understand if it were like Patriot fans that were bashing him, but from fans of teams whose coaches have combined for 1 playoff win? That’s rich.
By the way, this post just confirms that I want the Saints to fail, and hard. I’m actually at a point where I’d root for Brett Favre over them, which seemed incomprehensible 3 months ago. It’s a shame, there are a lot of reasons to feel good about the Saints, but their fans have really tainted that.
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
Hey John Wayne...........Why are you even out here?
Of all things a saints fan? If you read the cowboy fans post you ouldnt be talking shit……they are ignorant like you sound…………..And the Saints have NEVER won shit. so sit down little boy!!
by giantsNYrangers on Dec 7, 2009 10:14 PM EST reply actions
Regarding Flozell:
am I the only one who doesn’t want him to get suspended? He sucks – he’s old and slow, which is half the reason he has to resort to dirty tactics. The Cowboys would probably be better off if he is out. I say the best punishment is to let him keep playing.
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
not really.
He’s still adequate enough to keep Romo alive. I doubt if they started Doug Free and Pat McQuistan as their RT and LT, that they’d be as able to move the ball as they are.
Him getting suspended probably won’t kill them…but it could.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Dec 7, 2009 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
Absolutely not
From that train of thought, it’d be much better if he’s out vs San Diego.
The ’boys would have to completely retool their line vs a good pass rush.
But I’m not thinking that way. That dirtbag deserves a big suspension.
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
"Osi is probably one of our worst db's but he did alright there"
Hey....
Ravens coming back against the Pack.
All this Tirico, Gruden and Jaworski unabashed fellating of the Packers and Aaron Rogers is unbearable BTW.
17-14 (love that score).
"It ain't over till its over"---
nm...
Flacco?
Damn.
Maybe this ends up being just one of “those” games he looks back on as the worst its gonna get, but damn…he stunk tonight.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Dec 7, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
I am a Cowboy fan and I am tired of Flozell doing things like this........
Does he deserve a suspension? No. Why do I think that even though I am tired of this? Well cause of all the games I have been watching since I was a little kid , I have seen people pushed from behind after plays many ,many, many times. I have heard whistle’s blow and a guy hit another guy in the back( yes that includes Giants players too) after a play is done. If he gets suspended then we should suspend every played who hits someone in the back after a play. We might not have enough players each week to field a team. I know, I know, all of you will disagree cause it happened to your player. Just try and remember a game, just one game, where someone didn’t get hit late after a play and the other guy got upset by it. Has any player been suspended for it? I can’t recall it at anytime. If a Giant player had done it , I would have been extremely pissed but I wouldn’t go as far as wishing for a suspension. If the league keeps it up, we might as well turn the NFL into the National Flags League :).
after this explanation...
I semi agree. You’re right, if it was just a push in the back after a play…it’s fairly common.
Still, you gotta realize what your talking about first. Really…alter the actual perception of reality in your favor why don’t you…..
This is not some, 2nd down, middle of a pile type push in the back. To categorize this in that sort of vein is completely ignorant and you might as well just say you didn’t watch the game.
This was at the end of the half. Go back, tape up, do what you do during half…then come back out and do it again.
People who respect the game, who have a clue, don’t do what Flozell did at the end of the half.
I don’t care what player this happened to, who it was, or why it happenend….really, I don’t.
WHEN this happend, you have to be a real $#kin Mor*n to not realize that this was a real bush league, dirty, stupid, no place in the game sort of play.
Old school tough guy players, whatever you wanna call em, repsect the game enough to respect the halftime ‘truce’ if you will.
Flozell has no clue what’s going on in the game and deserves the missed paycheck that a one game suspension brings.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Dec 8, 2009 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
me personally a late hit after a play is a late hit period.......
no matter at the end of the half or on second down. I agree with alot of what you said except that and well you can disagree with people who have different opinions without all the name calling on a computer right? :)
my bad...
getting a little late and I’m pissed the Packers are making it hard on the Giants…so yea, my bad.
But its just different, the middle of a series…vs. the end of a half.
Its just generally known that its the end and you call off the dogs at the end of the half. You don’t see that sort of stuff, ever.
The stuff in the middle of series, is very common. Doesn’t make it right, but its just common.
You never see stuff like what Flozell did.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Dec 8, 2009 12:46 AM EST up reply actions
That is not fair
It’s definitely different if it’s at the end of a play and at the end of the half when everybody is going to the locker room. You can’t say it’s the same and even then how often do you see players who aren’t blocking each other go and push someone else for no reason
by mclaren_is_the_best on Dec 8, 2009 12:48 AM EST up reply actions
tho,
it does get a little under my skin that you just equate what Flozell did to any other late hit.
Its not.
All late hits are not created equal.
This wasn’t even a late hit. It was not even a football play if you will. Tuck was getting up and going to the half.
The only, ONLY thing that could be said in Flozell’s defense is if there was something said.
Even so, you’d think someone his age would be man enough and enough of a veteran to take it out during an actual play.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Dec 8, 2009 12:50 AM EST up reply actions
I think he should be suspended only because
there is some history between the two as it stands. Pushing a player in the back, after you’ve basically tripped him to the turf, isn’t acceptable or professional. He should serve, at least, a suspension. And I would say that for any Giants player that has been that blatant with his actions.
We didn't even have a chance for the "perfect season", but we did have the perfect ending.
Ms. Flozell Adams
Flozell Adams is a fat Beatch, who should be suspended for the remainder of the regular season without pay. How many more infractions need to happen before this dirtbag ends someones career on a dirty play? Roger Goodell better get the lead out and practice what he preaches. Flozell Adams is not a football player. He is fat and slow and has to resort to bush league play in order to keep up with real athletes.
GO NY GIANTS!!
agreed wholeheartedly
what a waste of space.
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
"Osi is probably one of our worst db's but he did alright there"
I cant agree with that assumption rdomaine.....
he was a very good player for most of his career and it has been this last portion that has gotten people fired up. I don’t judge players by their last few years , I try and judge every player by their careers. Flo has gotten less mobile as he has gotten older and its hurting him. He is not the player he use to be but he is better than alot out there now. In the past we use to preach , if you lose a step to a defensive lineman than do whatever you have to , so that he doesn’t take a full hit on the QB. In the old days we called that a smart lineman, in today’s new National Flag League (NFL), we call them dirty players.
Smart lineman vs. dirty lineman (players)
Smart lineman that have lost a step, use their heads, they readjust to their diminishing skills. Think, Pace or Ogden? How many fines have they’ve had in their careers, let alone in 13 weeks?
Would it be fair to say that dirty players that have been caught (fined) on a repeated basis, be just that? Dirty players!
I disagree
This idiot has had 4 or 5 infractions this season so far with nothing but fines being paid. Paying parking tickets isn’t enough at this point. I don’t care about the past, this guy is a danger to the other players and needs to be removed. Roger Goodell needs to get his head out of the sand and give Flo the punishment he deserves. A suspension that lasts the remainder of the regular season without pay.
GO NY GIANTS!!

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