'Kudos & Wet Willies:' Return of the Giants edition
by Ed Valentine on Dec 7, 2009 7:00 AM EST
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Lots of praise to dole out on the morning after our New York Giants rescued their season Sunday with a 31-24 victory over the arch-rival Dallas Cowboys.
This was an inspiring victory that begged only one real question. Where has this kind of passionate, determined effort been for the past six weeks?
Anyway, I will never figure that one out. So, on with the 'Kudos & Wet Willies.'
'Kudos' to ...
- Bill Sheridan: He has been getting killed around these parts for weeks as the defense under-performed. Today, the beleaguered defensive coordinator deserves some praise. We knew going into the game Sheridan was going to make lots of lineup changes. Well, he did and for the most part they worked beautifully. The Giants rotated a lot of people, and guys like Jonathan Goff, Clint Sintim and Mathias Kiwanuka all played well with increased time. Sheridan stacked the line of scrimmage and the Giants allowed Dallas just 45 rushing yards. Only two sacks of Romo on the day, but he was harassed and hit often as the Giants seemed to do a better job than they have all season of dialing up well-designed blitzes at good times. Maybe there is hope for Sheridan yet.
- Kevin Gilbride: The other beleaguered coordinator also deserves some praise. Still only 13 carries for Jacobs, but Gilbride stuck with the run enough early on to open up some play-action stuff later on. On, and there were a few minor changes I a couple of run formations and personnel packages that helped the Giants pound out some tough yards when they needed them.
- Brandon Jacobs: The longest play of his career -- a 74-yard touchdown -- came Sunday on a simple pass into the flat. Jacobs, incidentally gave a lot of credit to Darcy Johnson for his downfield blocking on the touchdown. Only 39 yards rushing on 13 carries for Jacobs, but he did run hard, dish out some punishment and barrel his way into the end zone in a goal-line situation.
- Steve Smith: A typical six catches for Smith. A very un-typical 110 yards (18.3 yards per catch). Smith is a master at getting open and catching the ball, but those catches are usually followed by Smith immediately crumpling to the ground. Not Sunday. He had a 36-yard catch and run, mostly run, and a handful of other plays where he got big chunks or yardage after a catch. Since the Giants won, and we are giving Smith 'Kudos,' we won't talk about that ball he dropped in the end zone.
- Aaron Rouse: Twelve tackles and a sack for the Green Bay reject. Rouse is looking more and more like another one of those brilliant in-season pickups by General Manager Jerry Reese. I don't know for sure what went wrong for Rouse in Green Bay, but he seems to be getting better and better as the weeks go by with the Giants. He was tremendous Sunday.
- Domenik Hixon: We have been begging for a big special teams play for weeks, and Hixon finally delivered with a game-changing 79-yard punt return for a touchdown.
- Terrell Thomas and C.C. Brown: I am putting these two guys together, and I am even amazing myself that I am including Brown. Even though Romo passed for 392 yards, I thought these two guys were fabulous, especially in run support. Thomas had 10 tackles, Brown had nine and there weren't any blown assignments.
- Barry Cofield: We have been begging for a push from the middle of the defensive line, and Cofield provided it Sunday. Only three tackles, but a couple of those were for losses and Cofield was a disruptive presence in the middle for the entire game.
HONORABLE MENTIONS: There are several other guys who could be on this list. They include Mathias Kiwanuka (six tackles and a forced fumble), Ahmad Bradshaw (a couple of big runs after his first-half fumble), Goff (who held up just fine in the middle of the defense) and Michael Boley (11 tackles). Give Osi Umenyiora credit, too, for playing hard, coming up with a fumble recovery and not complaining to the press because he didn't start.
Wet Willies to ...
- Corey Webster: Tony Romo threw three touchdown passes, and Webster was the defender on all three of them. Two of those were to Roy Williams, the type of tall, physical receivers who seems to give Webster trouble.
- Chris Canty: Got a start at defensive tackle against his old team, and had no impact. In fact, the $42 million free agent did nothing. He didn't even get his name in the stat sheet.
- Eli Manning: I really hate to give this one out, but I feel like I have to. Eli was just 11-for-25 for 241 yards. He threw two touchdown passes, but one was mostly due to Brandon Jacobs' tremendous individual effort and the other was a terrific catch by Hakeem Nicks on a ball Eli threw late. Manning threw a bad pick in the second half when he just tossed a ball up for grabs in the end zone, and badly missed a wide open Steve Smith on a deep ball in the fourth quarter. Not his worst game, especially since he was under duress much of the time, but he can play better.
- Flozell Adams: Do I even have to talk about it? This guy is a moron who deserves a suspension. Enough said.
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How did Goff play?
The second half was worth it tho.
D got lit up by Romo but a win is a win.
Now the $#@! Eagles. They win and they are back in it.
Goff played very good.
He got torched by Witten, but hey, so would’ve Pierce and Blackburn!
One game’s not gonna tell us everything…but to be honest he played well enough (and hit people when they came by) that I think our MLB position may be solved.
Now they just gotta let him learn.
"It ain't over till its over"---
Agree with Free
Goff held up very well. No spectacular plays, but he was fine. Dallas had 45 yards rushing w/Goff in the middle, and that was terrific. And Witten torched everybody who tried to stay with him, not just Goff. Witten is a great player.
Goff was actaully in position on one of those plays against Whitten
he just got turned around a bit and Whitten made a really nice catch. He looked quick and a couple of times was in the backfield nothing great but nothing horrible.
Canty was not great but I thought I saw him get a push a few times and muck things up in the middle on a few running and passing plays.
Rouse looks like he might be a solid “Box Saftey” Let’s hop KP can return to top form next year or the Giants can bring in a serviceable FS casue I feel OK with Rouse playing SS.
Makes it more likely
that AP has played his last game for the Giants.
Thanks AP for all that you have done but in the Not For Long you are quickly discarded and replaced when the time comes.
by G Fan in England on Dec 7, 2009 7:58 AM EST up reply actions
Canty
I saw him get a push a few times too. I know he didn’t make any tackles, but it was nice to see the middle of the D-line not getting pushed around for once.
I'd like to stick up for Canty also
Just because he didn’t have any stats doesn’t mean anything. You really have to look at the game tape to see how he did.
+1
dt’s take up space and open things up for lbs.. and i remember seeing lb’s flying aroudn the rb’s all game..
and against a huge o line like dallas has, that pushed us around the fist game… id actually give canty a KUDO
I agree Canty played well
he definitely played a part in why we kept dallas to 2 ypc. he didn’t get a tackle but he was taking a lot of room just had a good day
by mclaren_is_the_best on Dec 7, 2009 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
Rouse played GREAT.
I do think that the Witten torching is more of scheming and just having no clue on how to stop him (bump him at the line? have a LB short, Ross deeper, but always shadow him????)
I think Steve Smith deserves a Kullie. Little better then a kwillie? that TD catch damn near bit them in the cornhole cuz of that onside kick! Also, another play, he let one hit him in the hands and dropped it. He had a great game overall, and even fought after the catch on one play!
I really wish they would’ve figured out what to do with Witten, but hey, they stopped him last time, and it led to about 975yards rushing. (either way I guess….the Parcells’ stop their best option idea, works).
Now they gotta figure out how to take care of the Eggs.
"It ain't over till its over"---
How about a mention
for Boothe who came in for Snee?
Nice run by Boss as well in picking up a key first down.
Wet Willy for the prevent defence – let’s face it if the Cowboys recover the onside kick does anyone not think the game goes to OT!
However, yardage aside the defence did alot better and the young guys played well enough to give hope for the future.
I listened to the game on a UK radio station and was surprised at the number of Boys fans at the game.
by G Fan in England on Dec 7, 2009 7:29 AM EST reply actions
Probably right
Boothe belongs in the Honorable Mention category, I think. He held up pretty well. He’s decent at guard, he’s just overmatched when he has to play tackle because he isn’t quick enough.
and no Diehl or McKenzie?
I didn’t hear their names…didn’t hear much of DeMarcus Ware’s name….that’s a good thing.
Just like last game, I think they handled him as good as you can (kinda like game 1).
"It ain't over till its over"---
Offensive line
I couldn’t really give ‘Kudos,’ even though Ware had no sacks. Eli was under a lot of heat, and throwing a lot of balls off his back foot because of the struggles in pass protection.
TONS of cowboy fans
They were out in full force, for sure. Coincidentally, I saw a particularly high number of perp-walks by the staties.
What did Flozell do this time? Leg whip, head butt? Couldn’t see that from the stands.
Also, anyone know if there’s some NFL rule about showing replays in the stadium? There must have been 3-4 challenged plays and not a single peek on the big screen.
Home chooses to play replays
If it helps the home team to show the replay they’ll show it over and over agian if it does not they will not show it and I think that was the case yesterday.
On the last play of the half when the play was over Flozel came in and drilled Tuck from behind for no apparent reason. One of the worst cheaps shots I’ve ever seen the officails should be ashamed for allowing Flozell to play the rest of the game he should face a couple games susspesnion for what he did and if doesn’t well then you’ll know Goodell is more concered with having the Cowboys do well to get TV ratings then actually being fair.
I know we do not wish for injuries on this site but if Flozell blows out a knee I will not be feeling bad for him.
were you singing with me?
As the cowboys fans flooded for the exits, “Na na na na / Na na na na / Hey hey hey / Goodbye!”
There were so many damn Cowboys fans at the stadium that there was an audible roar for a few good Dallas plays. That sucked. But in the end we really made an unbelievable amount of noise. We were even getting up and loud for 1st downs toward the end.
Before the game I actually broke up a fight in the crowd to enter the stadium when a humongous Giant fan grabbed the wool hat off a Cowpies fan’s head and threw it away.
After the game though, and for the most part, there was a good peaceful camaraderie. After the game there were several large tailgating pockets of ’Pies and Giants fans partying together. Including my own group. We have something in common — there was an “Eagles suck” chant going in the bathroom & halls after the game.
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Dec 7, 2009 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
The top two kudos are for coordinators?!?!
Unless I am mistaken, wasn’t it the players, particularly a handful of them, that stepped up and made big plays on Sunday against the Cowboys?
Or do the coordinators get top billing this week by virtue of what they didn’t do (i.e., lousy game planning)?
by Step up and make big plays on Dec 7, 2009 7:52 AM EST reply actions
More on D
I though Sheridan did damn good. The amoeba needs to be the GIatns D on third down….I think its as simple as that. I’ve never seen them do anything like that (yes Aikman…first time they’ve done it).
Gilbride wasn’t at fault really either, there were a lot of opportunities. The offensive woes were largely on Eli not stepping into throws, Gilbride didn’t do anything on that did he? (and players were wide open on those also)
…so no, Gilbride actually called a good game. Very good. When players are wide open 35 yards down field, or in the back of the end zone (sigh….Swiss)….that’s a good play call. If nothing happens, its on the players.
"It ain't over till its over"---
Look, the coords take a lot of heat from us, and they both did a spectacular job at game planning and in game calling. Does it hurt that much to give them their due?
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Dec 7, 2009 8:50 AM EST up reply actions
?
No…I was saying it was deserved that they got credit.
Sheridan called a great game and the Witten thing was more of being a great player that he is.
Gillbride did great too, that was more of Eli and Smith not executing when they should.
Did I say the coordinators were to blame?
"It ain't over till its over"---
Actually
the coaches be tt TC or BS deserve the Kudos for making changes in the lineup – they could have easily stayed with the same lineup.
by G Fan in England on Dec 7, 2009 9:05 AM EST up reply actions
Sheridan put his big boy pants on!
Now that is what I am talking about. Lord knows I been killing Bill around here, but let me praise him today. The Sheridan had a great game plan, shut the run down and mixed it up on coverages blitz’s and acutually looked like he confused Dallas’s O a few times.
The Players were inspired and man they are doing a good job of bringing Rouse along heck even CC looked like and NFL player Sunday.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 7, 2009 9:02 AM EST up reply actions
well............
only complaint about the O coordinator. Once again it appears Boss has disappeared from the playbook in the red zone.
notice how the pass rush was getting there a little late to Eli?
Boss had to be kept in to block for a reason.
Yes, I’d like to see a slip out pass or something like that, but keeping Eli clean is #1.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Dec 7, 2009 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
Kudos
It really wasn’t in order. I just wanted to give Sheridan the first one and for me it made sense to add KG right there. I never try to do it in order or ‘best to worst.’
KG
KG deserved some Kudo’s too, Ed your on the few who does not pile on KG here, guess you could say I am at the bottom of the pile. I have a love hate relationship with him, he either has his A game going or his D game. Yesterday I would say he had the A game going, he really seems to have the Dallas D’s number and knows how to attack them.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 7, 2009 9:41 AM EST up reply actions
Canty was close a few times...
…he had good penetration on a few occasions but just couldn’t wrap up. If he keep getting into the backfield like that on a consistent basis, the tackles for losses should come…
by Step up and make big plays on Dec 7, 2009 7:53 AM EST reply actions
Glad you mentioned that, Step.
Canty’s beginning to worry me. Is he a dud, or is he still trying to get the feel of how to play in a 4-3? I hope it’s the latter. It’s too soon to tell.
I'm thinking its the latter too.
He’s getting there, just a bit of a case of bad angles. He was there for 2 tackles for loss, yet missed cuz he was following a RB, and many DT’s can’t hang with RB’s.
….tho he may be a dud.
He does nothing the rest of the way, I hope there’s an opt out in his contract.
"It ain't over till its over"---
Canty
Whilst it is nice for the DT to produce good stats it is more a case of clogging the middle and tieing up blockers so the LB’s can make the play near the LOS.
Was Canty being double teamed or just tieing up blockers?
I do not think we can compare Canty’s no stat game to Osi’s no stat game against Denver.
It sounded like on the radio that Romo was not able to step up in the pocket so were we getting some inside push for once.
by G Fan in England on Dec 7, 2009 8:46 AM EST up reply actions
True guys
It just would have been to at least see him get in the stat column somewhere, other than snaps played.
He may have been swallowing up blockers
and if he did and it allowed Cofield to do what he did…well then we got a wrecking crew again.
that’s why I think its the latter.
getting more time in teh 4-3, maybe he’ll take some better angles to the ball carrier?
"It ain't over till its over"---
but
if the running back is having to run around him rather than straight upfield it is giving the other players a chance to make the tackle.
Let’s give him a chance – we won and played better so let’s not nitpick anymore than we have too.
by G Fan in England on Dec 7, 2009 9:07 AM EST up reply actions
yup.
I mean, I wasn’t paying attention to him much.
I usually think of an offensive lineman having a quiet game being a good thing.
In a 4-3, I usually don’t expect a DT’s having a ‘quiet’ game to be a good thing, but its probably the case with Canty.
I’ll get the TIVO on Friday and see what goes on. He probably help the run stopping immensely.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Dec 7, 2009 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
TIVO
I have the game recorded. I’ll watch it tonight to get a feel for Canty.
canty & Goff
Canty was either on the line or in the backfied I did not see him getting pushed back..which is a Great thing..he caused issues for the Dallas Line…
Goff was around the ball all game…the fact that he managed to get to the point of attack before or at the same time as the blockers made it easier to swallow the run game of dallas..pass defense will come..he was close a few times…I dont think he was beat badly…all things being equal…he may be a faster version of Pepper..IMO
i dunno maybe I just like the colors
No DUD at all!!
Chris Canty will be spectacular as soon as he starts to trust his instincts the guy has been in the same system for 9 yrs or so from UVA to dallas it is the same exact defense and the same reason sintim is having trouble but after they master the scheme watch out!!
B.G.
aiight.
UVA stand UP!
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Dec 7, 2009 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
How about Beatty?
Didn’t see or hear much of him. I take that as a good sign. You usually don’t hear or see much of O lineman unless they goof.
Well, that explains it.
Thanks. I thought he was supposed to start in lieu of McKenzie? Didn’t even play. Well, IMO, they should give him some playing time. Looking at the overall picture, the newbies did themselves proud on Sun.
Aaron Rouse...
This coming from an Eagle fan. I take pride in my knowledge of the NFC East teams, and at some point during that game I realized I kept seeing #26 all over the field, and was disappointed in myself that I had no idea who #26 was. Had to rewind the DVR to catch the name on the back of his jersey.
He had an outstanding game.
Changes
All those personnel changes on D really paid dividends. Goff was solid in the middle, Kiwi made some plays in the running game (especially that strip of Barber), and the demotion lit a fire in Osi. And while Canty didn’t make plays, he helped to clog the middle.
Also, I think you can give Nicks an honorable mention as well … great play by him on that TD on a ball Eli threw up for grabs.
Good call, Pot
That was a ball Eli threw a little late, and Nicks used those big mitts to make a terrific play on the ball. He is a stud.
Before the draft
Nicks was compared to Anquan Boldin and after watching both guys last night back to back you can see that comparison. Nicks is physical like a RB and can break away from smaller DB’s. I can’t wait till he has a full grasp of the O he’s going to be very very good.
Me too
I don’t get excieted about rookie WR’s but Nicks looks like he might be the real deal.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 7, 2009 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
Yes Boldin
Without the bad attitude..He’s already become a force in our offense.
yea...
Boldin is far from a ‘diva’ type WR. Him and Fitzgerald both.
Its just one sideline argument that gets blown out of proportion….
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Dec 7, 2009 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
Boldin basically had his face shattered against the Jets last year. I happened to be watching that game live on TV, and I don’t mean for this to be funny, but it was the only time I’ve ever thought a player might be dead on the field… seriously.
He had major surgery on his face, and missed just 2 games.
After his experience with his major reconstructive facial surgery, he created “The Anquan Boldin Foundation Dental Care Program,” which addresses concerns with children who are being profoundly impacted by chronic dental conditions such as jaw deformities, overbites, underbites, impacted and symptomatic wisdom teeth.
I’ll take that kind of attitude on my team any day.
I thought Kiwi played one his best games as a Giant, he was flying all over the place. They need alot more of that from him.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Dec 7, 2009 9:01 AM EST up reply actions
Absolutly Bobbi
AS much as I have killd BS on here, he really did a nice job of mixing it up Sunday.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 7, 2009 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
OK, so Goff at MLB
and now we need to see Sintim at strongside. Play ’em both more so we know if they are starter material in 2010.
If Robbins and Bernard are gone then DT for 2010 looks like Coefield, Alford and Canty.
Did Beatty play much? Well?
I am not throwing in any towel this year but 2010 players can get better looks without compromising the ability to win. Sintim may be the exception.
Vick was outstanding yesterday. The upcoming game will be something to watch. Won’t miss the first half of this one!!!
If the
rookies are better than the vets we are not giving up on the season by playing them.
If anything they can turn the season around like the 2007 crop did.
One more big effort Sunday and the losing streak will be forgotten.
by G Fan in England on Dec 7, 2009 9:03 AM EST up reply actions
I don't think you'll see much of Vick.
They put him in to run the ball near the goaline, and he scored, and then he played in mop-up duty in the 2nd half and threw an easy TD pass.
It’s pretty much the only production the Eagles have gotten from him all season. He’ll be on the field for no more than 5 snaps.
The Sintim sack ...
was a classic example of our finally disquising the blitzes, as he was lined up as a DE, and was unblocked since Dallas must have thought something else was up.
Overall though, it was more big plays than not by the G-men. The players won this one.
Also, I sure hope they are reviewing film on Park Ave. in Goodell’s office on Flozell Adams. His shoving Tuck down from behind after the play (and onto his shoulder that Fozell hurt with an illegal leg whip even !!) has got to warrant a suspension. None of this bullshit pocket change fining !! A message has to be sent to players in this league.
Good point
and no one deserves a suspension more that “Dirtbag” Adams. He’s now become my most hated player … funny how it always seems to be a Cowboy.
Once and for all
the NFL need to suspend this dirt bag.
Hmmm, Flozell Adams penalty?
Well, by the sounds of it, he obviously had another penalty? I think it was unsportsmanlike? Unfortunately i didn’t see what happened, but i think Tuck and Kiwi were involved.
So i was wondering how it unfolded?
Flozell
shoved Tuck in the back to the ground after the play had been blown dead at the end of the half.
Flozell's day will come
Kind of reminds me of when Strhan was young and the Cowboys had that nasty tackle Eric Williams who used to cheap shot Stray all the time. Williams got in a bad car wreck and was never the same and Stray gave him hell after that.
Flozell is just to cheap somebody is gonna take a cheap shot back at him soon.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 7, 2009 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
Well if i didn't know any better
A cheap shot is a cheap shot, regardless of who he hit, but this seems to be “personal”? Given their history (which is all on Adams), they (the NFL) should sit him!
What happened was the Giants declined the penalties..
They just took it into the locker room at halftime and came out on fire..again if you watched, we gave up a few extra passing yards because we had a guy on each play, not making a move on him..just hitting him and hitting him hard..He looked like a punching bag in the second half..He’s probably still sitting in a whirpool bath.
By rule
they had to decline the penalty because it was at the end of the half. Stupid rule – you can do whatever you want and it won’t have an affect, penalty-wise.
Hmmm..I didn't know that..Is that a fact? Mount?
Really doesn’t matter.. that dweeb fired our defense up..But I do find some rules kinda strange..Let a bum get away with nothing?..Even if there was a chance to accept a penalty..It would have just been a fan getting a football to take home..Hopefully he gets hammered with a big fine.
That's what I heard at first
but now I’m not so sure, there seems to be some debate as to the rule. It could be the refs (wrongly) called it as part of the play so if the Giants would have accepted it would have been a replay. If it would have carried over, the Cowboys were kicking off so it would have given us 15 more yards in field position.
I know this is a fact
At a teams discretion if they’re winning or losing, whether it’s halftime or end of the game and time has expired, a game cannot end on a defensive penalty. In this case, Adams was on offense. So with no time left, the defensive team gains no advantage because the outcome cannot be assumed, or has not yet been determined?!
Coughlin said
they were never given an option to decline or accept it.
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by bigbluethruandthru on Dec 7, 2009 7:33 PM EST up reply actions
it should be enforced on the 1st play of the 2nd half
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Dec 8, 2009 9:39 AM EST up reply actions
I know this is overstating the obvious
But is there a team in football that does more preening and posing when they are losing than the Dallas Cowboys?
Barber and Jones combined for 42 yards on 21 carries, but you would think they were Bo Jackson and Gayle Sayers back there.
God I love beating Dallas, and in case I haven’t said it lately, thanks again Dad for making me a New York Giants fan. It’s not always fun, and it’s never easy, but I wouldn’t have it any other way.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Dec 7, 2009 9:04 AM EST reply actions
Don't forget Roy Williams
after every first down catch doing his little 1st down pose.
As well as handing the ball after a TD to a fan.
That’s what they do, more style over substance (to be honest, I may have been young but I don’t remember too much of that from Emmit, Troy, Novacek…tho maybe some from Irvin).
"It ain't over till its over"---
The only bad thing about yesterday
was allowing that mut to score two TD’s, what a jerk.
Other than Irving 90’s the Cowboy’s did little of that and even Irving would only do it when it was justified. They just ran the ball and played D while Aikman would complete a few balls, kinda like the 80’s Giants teams. Though Erik Williams had a little bit of Flozell in him but he was a much better player too.
Have you forgotten that the “helmet” rule was created because Emmitt Smith took his helmet off on the field all the time to celebrate?
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Dec 7, 2009 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah but Emmit backed it up
After watching Emmit take apart the Giants with a broken shoulder I have to give him respect he backed up his celibrations with his play no complaints on him.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 7, 2009 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
exactly.
Barber wasn’t doing squat, yet gets up and yells after a first down.
Roy Williams on every 1st down catch has to do his little tomahawk first down signal.
THey just don’t know when to keep it too themselves.
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by FreeBradshaw on Dec 7, 2009 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
Barber = Shockey
Funny you mention that free, every time barber did that kind of reminded me of Shockey when he would freak out cause he made a first down. God I don’t miss that idiot.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 7, 2009 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
Irvin would dance all the time
remember the little fairy arm flapping he would do after every TD? And Erik Williams had the “no-hands-to-the-face” rule adapted to also be on the offense because he continually would do it so often. God I hated that team as a kid.
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by bigbluethruandthru on Dec 7, 2009 7:35 PM EST up reply actions
Handing the ball to Cowboy fans like that
was actually a very muted celebration and a nice gesture for those fans. Nothing wrong with that (it is not like he fired the ball high into the crowd like Plax did in Philly a couple times).
yea...
but were they leading?
Were they winning big?
It was at Giants stadium.
You don’t go and hand a ball to a Dallas fan in Giants stadium. That, along with the numerous other things, pissed off the Giants and went in their favor.
"It ain't over till its over"---
oh comeon
giving the ball to a fan of your team is fine … if it pisses off the home team and you lose as a result then too bad, but I don’t see how you can complain about giving your fans a souvenier
You would be saying the exact same thing I am if it were Jacobs doing thr same thing under the Jerrytron
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by Dan from Chicago on Dec 7, 2009 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah who cares..as long as they are losing..
Give all their fans a ball..Its is like: “Yes I stunk, here have a ball”
to be honest
Jacobs does that too, whenever he scores touchdowns he gives the ball to a fan (or throws it at the cowboys clock)
by mclaren_is_the_best on Dec 7, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
Jacobs has been to the promised land
He could do ochocinco out there because he has a ring. The Boys got not one playoff win since I was in middle school, quit celebrating your first down, whats to celebrate? Touchdown sure I dont mind him giving away a souveneir, in fact I kind of like it, but if an opposing player ever tried giving me a game ball it would land square in the middle of the numbers because I would reject that shit.
Yeah I forgot RW
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Dec 7, 2009 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
Roy Williams is a loser
The guy reminds me of T.O except he has had one good seaon his whole career.
One thing to remember about this idiot he has never been in the playoffs and has no idea what winning in the NFL means, that’s why he is doing all that crap when he makes a play.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 7, 2009 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
Roy Williams
isn’t 50% of the player TO is/was. TO is a cancer in the locker room but his effort on the field is beyond reproach. The same can’t be said about Toy.
i beg to differ
i actually thought that was one of roys best performances this year…TO was A much greater force that the giants had to plan for
I also disagree
yesterday, he did have a good game. Who doesn’t vs Giants D-backs? Otherwise he’s average at best. He definitely thinks he better than he is.
really bobbi?
I mean TO is one of the best receivers in NFL history. Roy Williams is highly overrated imo. But they do have something in common One they are/were Cowboy receivers and two they never will win the big DANCE.
Have you seen the way he wuits on routes up in Buffalo
end of the career, dead end team and all that, but if the game is out of reach he’s sauntering around the field like it a Thanksgiving game in the backyard.
Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!
by bigbluethruandthru on Dec 7, 2009 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
Barber is way overated
I like the guy but his habit of celibrating like that has got to stop. I mean he has yet to live up to the 07 season when everybody thought he was gonna be the next break out back. Even in 2007 I thought B. Jacobs was the better and more physical back.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 7, 2009 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
Joe Buck referred to Felix Jones yesterday as...
…“the home run hitter”.
What a mutt.
by Step up and make big plays on Dec 7, 2009 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
I can't stand Joe Buck
I wish this guy would go back to calling baseball games, he stinks.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 7, 2009 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
how about sitting and watching the games from the comfort of his own house.
I hate homer announcers. Like Gruden would never talk and blow the Cowboys organization every stinkin play. Sure I can see Troy behave like that from time to time hes a lifelong Cowboy. But Joe Buck can SUCK IT.
I have no problem with aikman
Yeah he’s a cowboys homer, but what are you going to expect? He’s pretty decent too.
I just wish joe buck wasn’t there, and that they weren’t the #1 fox announcers, which means we get them a lot.
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
"Osi is probably one of our worst db's but he did alright there"
yea,,,
HR hitter like Shelley Duncan.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Dec 7, 2009 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
Gayle Sayers never had a 2.0/per carry game..
Barber and Jones..were humiliated..I don’t get how a player can strut their stuff when they are getting stuffed..As far as Williams goes, I didn’t mind that too much..He finally showed up and played the game like he is capable of..I like guys like ours..for the most part they make a nice play and then just toss the ball to the referee..No big deal..let’s get back to work..this is the first Dallas game I had to watch without him since my Dad passed away last month..but I know he’d be proud..He made me a Giants fan when I couldn’t even walk yet..I only realized it when I turne six years old..Fond memories…Everlasting
You are being a little tough on Canty don't you think?
If you take a look at the stat sheet, you may not see his name, but you will see that the Giants held the Cowboys to like 44 yards rushing. It takes a LOT of clogging up the middle to do that. Canty may not have a lot of tackles or sacks per se, but look at the film and see how many times he occupied 2 or more lineman, or how many times he disrupted the Cowboy blocking schemes up the middle, forcing them to take pretty much everything outside and right into the persuit. The guy was a rock out there and helped Goff hugely by keeping the O-line off of him on running plays. In fact, the only way the Cowboys DO run on the Giants is if they get movement on the DT’s, both of whom played good games and both should be given credit for it.
Don't y'all think..
That the Cowboys had Canty’s number pasted in their playbook?..No way were they going to let him have a career day against them..I thought he hung in there and did a halfway decent job..Certainly not 42 million dollars worth, but I think he’ll help get us where we want to be..At least he is healthy and ready to contribute.
he has another 5 and a half years
to work up for those $42 million
by mclaren_is_the_best on Dec 7, 2009 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
DT dont usually get many tackles
I thought the push on run plays up the middle was tremendous. Canty must have done some work.
Wow MJ20
It’s like you read my mind. Canty didn’t have his greatest day as a pro, but he did have his best as a Giant, which shouldn’t earn him a Wet Willie. I don’t think Eli deserves one either. The interception he threw wasn’t pretty, but he saw man coverage and threw the ball up for his receiver to make a play. Good job by the defensive back. Eli’s creative play to Boss was a big play in that scoring drive, and the TD pass to Jacobs was perfectly placed (so was the pass to Smith…). Four or five drops will make anyones numbers look bad…
I bet if Eli throws that ball up
to Nicks instead of Manningham, Nicks comes down with that ball. I love that dude. He is going to be a big nuts STUD for the Giants in the years to come.
O yea boi
And Give the Ham some time to grow still he was a beast a Michigan.
He doesn't have much time to learn though
Nicks and Barden are gunning for a place in the starting WR rotation as well.
by mclaren_is_the_best on Dec 7, 2009 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
Agree and Disagree
Don’t believe Canty deserves a Willie. Eli deserves one. It wasn’t one of his better games. Terrible decision on the INT. Also, a few other terrible throws.
IMO it was not a bad decision
He found the single coverage and threw it so one of his playmakers could make a play. I would call it a bad throw not a bad decision.
Plus, his WRs probably come down with that ball every day in practice over CC Brown. Couldn’t resist.
Horrible throw
didn’t step into it. If he stepped into it, easy 6 I think.
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
"Osi is probably one of our worst db's but he did alright there"
well I like the playcall
To be honest we went for the kill shot. I will never complain about shots downfield on first or second down.
It just wasnt a very good throw by Eli.
Kudos to........Myself!
I had written the season off but yesterday give me hope again. Great call to shake up the lineup. We finally played with some heart, 3rd down D sucked, but for the most part we played with heart. Canty did a great job stuffing the middle, just ask Barber, Jones and Choice. Cweb :(…not good to get burned by Roy Williams…..twice. Love seeing Boley laying out on the one pass to Whitten.
Loved seeing Ham and Nicks on the outside and Smith in the slot. Hixon excelled at what he does best and that returns, not receiving. I think it’s about time Nicks become the #2 and Ham the #3. Great job by Gilbride, just one note, don’t forget the TE…see Dallas #82. Bjake, 74 yard TD catch, who woulda thunk it?
I have to admit that I am a BBV poster that is eating on some crow this morning, and I’m loving it.
If the Gmen play
like they did yesterday (minus the 3rd downs), I’ll take BBQ eagle, roasted eagle, fried eagle, baked eagle. I could get used to this fowl diet, just keep winning.
WING BOWL 2009, fall edition!
by Step up and make big plays on Dec 7, 2009 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
bring them crabcakes too....
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Dec 7, 2009 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
THAT'S WHAT MARYLAND DOES!
by Step up and make big plays on Dec 7, 2009 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
wings, crabcakes...beer, Giants winning....
where do I sign up?
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Dec 7, 2009 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
well, for starters there's the 51st State...
…DC’s “only NY sports bar” where all of the above can be had on most Sundays in the fall…
I wonder how many other metro DC-area BBV readers frequent this place??? If you are out there, please come forward…
by Step up and make big plays on Dec 7, 2009 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
I never wrote us off..and took a beating for it nj..
We need to get past the Eagles and now (I wasn’t at first) worried about those pesty Skins..They damn near beat the Saints..they are on the cusp of winning one..I just hope it is after they play us.
Hey Bobbi,
I’m sitting here with a mouth full of crow and I’m loving every minute of it. The Birds will be a tough game (as usual). If our guys come out with that kind of fire once again, I feel pretty good about Sunday. The Skins are scary. I think if they had a better coach, they’d have at least 3 more wins but that loss yesterday can be blamed on their kicker and not Zorn. He could have put the game away with a field goal that was basically an extra point (and here, we cry about Tynes all the time).
Haha..I hear crow tastes much better after a big win!!..lol
nj..I agree, we need to deal with the Eagles..which I just know we will..It’s our house and it is payback time..I think we need to throw everything and more at them like we did to Dallas. I’ll give you two examples..feed them plenty of Goff and Sintim..they have one film to study..think they’ll come up with something?..Doubt it..and another thing..Parcells would have just flat out told the team that their longevity was in jeopardy..This week the message was sent perhaps more subtley..but the starters got it and they played like it..that’s the spark we needed..
Yeah, BTW nj
How do you think you can weasel yourself back onto the Titanic? Did you find land and hopped aboard a rescue boat? It wouldn’t be hard finding us though, with a few buzzards swirling overhead! Or would they be crows? lol :p
I'll take that one on the chin Hoot.
You see that I gave myself a Kudo. I’ve been very hard on our guys these last couple of weeks but you must admit, it’s been a long time since we have seen the guys that were out there yesterday. If we play like we did yesterday, we win the Beast. I’m happy that our guys are back (at least I hope so). I was afraid that we were stuck with the team that gives up 4th quarter leads or that team that showed up on Thanksgiving.
However it goes, I’m happy to eat crow this week. Pass the hot sauce!!
I was kidding, lol. Even though i've been on this pointy fence for a couple weeks!
It is really hard to balance yourself with everything involved!
No doubt..
I was just happy to see some real emotion, not that crap Osi was pulling on Thangsgiving night. They need to come out the same was on Sunday, maybe kick it up a notch. I’m not a Baltimore fan but I’ve got to pull for the Ravens tonight. I hope Rogers has a huge night (my fantasy QB), but I hope the Ravens pull it out. Time for the stars to start aligning, both division stars and wildcard stars.
Not that it matters
but just for the Cowboys’ fans who are complaining about some calls, I think it’s very possible that Bradshaw recovered his own fumble. The ref on the other side of Ware signaled Dallas ball right away, but there might have been a reason Bradshaw didn’t want to let go. It was very similar to his fumble recovery in the SB when the Patriots were on top of the ball but didn’t secure it. Fox had a replay that might have shown it but they cut away to a commercial.
of course...
If you turned your TV up…you’d hear Aikman and Buck say…“go to commercial, quick!”.
"It ain't over till its over"---
Buck and Aikman
have their own reasons for wanting to go to a commercial… they can’t kiss on air.
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Dec 7, 2009 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
Goff
I personaly thought that JGoff perforemed very well.. not alot of wittens pass yardage came from yac yards.. everytime i saw goff covering witten he was in position right thereafter the catch if not at the same time.. he is a bit undersized but his play doesnt seem to be hampered by it.. he is quicker than blackburn and seems to be in position to make a play more often than AP has been this yr. PRETTY DAYM GOOD FOR HIS FIRST GAME I’D SAY.
fire and desire
is what I definately noticed.. throughout the entire game.. no just from the players but from the STADIUM too.. the poor past performances and the nearing end of the season will bring the true giants back to form and maybe, just mabye , on game at a time, we are witnessing another epic run! go giants
The credit for Jacobs's TD catch is warranted...
…watch it again, it was a hell of a grab of a swing pass while gathering a head of steam.
A play like this makes those drops of routine check downs all the more frustrating…B. Jacobs really could be a potent weapon in the passing game if he is used properly and he executes well.
by Step up and make big plays on Dec 7, 2009 10:11 AM EST reply actions
Rumble young man Rumble
Good to see Brandon break out, one of the things about him is for his size that guy can run, Brady James could not catch him.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 7, 2009 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
to note on that, the pass was on the money… id say a lot of jacobs drops are due to “not great passes”.. jacobs doesnt have great hands, so for him a great pass will turn an avg pass play/or drop into a big gain.
you're right, re: the placement of that ball...
…because it was properly placed, he was able to already be accelerating upfield as he caught the ball. If that pass is even off by a touch and Jacobs has to adjust, the play probably goes for 10-15 yards at most.
by Step up and make big plays on Dec 7, 2009 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
I always say that with Jacobs.
He very few easy ones…yet he gets very few easy ones thrown his way.
When Eli’s pressured and throws to Jake, he tends to throw it about 90mph at him, no matter how far away he is.
We should use Jake out in the flat or something.
He’s a weapon we haven’t been able to use all year cuz of teams identifying the run so soon.
Not saying screen passes…but just a flat pass, maybe a dump over the middle.
….or God FORBID GILBRIDE ever does that swing pass that gained 78 yards ever again…..
PLEASE KEVIN…use that play with Jake again?
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Dec 7, 2009 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
Jacobs has worked on catching the ball
To me it seem like Brandon has been working on catching the ball, becuase before this year he really looked like his hands were made out of stone. This year he really seems like he can catch. I liked the idea of getting him the ball with some space to work with.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 7, 2009 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
I said earlier on the other blog..
That was a beatiful toss and catch..Eli’s best pass..He hit Jacobs at an angle where when he caught it in stride he was pointing dead ahead, full steam and rode it to the house…perfect swing pass.
Good point
The only thing the big guy had to do was catch and continue to run. Caught him in perfect stride. Also great block down field by Johnson (I think).
A close second
was the dropped TD pass from Smith.
Wet WIlly
to the kickoff team – the Cowboys were starting drives near midfield rather than their 20.
Can we just sign someone/anyone to kick off!
by G Fan in England on Dec 7, 2009 10:33 AM EST reply actions
Was Nick Folk good at kicking off?
Wasn’t really paying attention to his kickoffs…but he may be cut soon.
…I think we’re stuck with Tynes till the very end.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Dec 7, 2009 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
Folk doesn't kick off.
They drafted David Buehler (spelling?) in the 5th round specifically to kick off. They took a ton a heat for the pick (or rather, a lot of people made fun of them for the pick), but it has actually worked out for them so far. Sadly, he’s probably been their most productive rookie. Against the Giants, however, he had a “bad game,” that is, if you want to call it that. I don’t think he reached the endzone at all – He definitely didn’t have any touchbacks.
Good point G..the usual..
Tynes kick-offs are horrible.
I see you
made it back from BTB!
To be fair they seemed surprised at the good gam comments we have posted on their site!
by G Fan in England on Dec 7, 2009 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
I've never really seen a Giants fan go and troll
like some other team’s fans do on here.
Maybe I just miss them. Maybe they’re deleted.
…but never do I see stuff like “Fear the Star” by a Giants fan on any other opponent site.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Dec 7, 2009 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
They exist all right (ie giants fan's trolling)
but a lot of that gets washed out in modding I suspect.
Has Simms
got home from the game yet – he normally has posted by now…..
by G Fan in England on Dec 7, 2009 10:41 AM EST reply actions
thanks for wondering
we stayed for burgers until about 9:30 after the game and got home about 12:00 … nothing on the injury report just a little bit tired and boozy
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Dec 7, 2009 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
I'm sorry
We all love Steve Smith but he doesn’t deserve a kudo. Three drops. The one for a TD in inexcusable. It would have truly but the game out of reach. We had to sweat out the review for the onside kick.
Smitty
Hey Ed , can a player get a kudo and a willy in the same game? Smitty, did have that great catch and run but Frank’s right the TD he droped after Eli hit him in the hands made me sick.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 7, 2009 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, he can
Sometimes I give out ‘kwillies,’ really half of each. In retrospect, Smith probably should have gotten one of those.
by Ed Valentine on Dec 7, 2009 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
definitely a kwille for Steve.
He was wide open on some deep bombs tho…
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Dec 7, 2009 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
Some of it was Eli's fault
Eli threw some bad balls off his back foot with Smith wide open
but smith should have had that TD in the endzone, and he dropped a few in the beginning.
I thought we were in for a long day when smith kept dropping all those balls.
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
"Osi is probably one of our worst db's but he did alright there"
Didn't it look
odd seeing those balls bounce off Smiths hands like that. For a minute, I thought we had traded for Braylon Edwards.
it was bad
but he still had a great day. That’s how awesome steve is. I just wish he had a chance to pad his stats a little more.
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
"Osi is probably one of our worst db's but he did alright there"
21 yards
and Smitty has his first thousand yard season. I hope his first catch on Sunday is a 22 yard TD catch. Congrats Smitty.
meh
more like another deep bomb for a td.
I’m still amazed I called Jacob’s near 80 yard catch and run.
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
"Osi is probably one of our worst db's but he did alright there"
Better, not great
This weeks performance certainly was better than the horrible skid we came off of, but it still wasn’t great.
My biggest concern right now is Eli Manning. While he usually under-throws on short yardage, yesterday he was missing badly – to the point where he skipped the ball on a short 10 yard pass in the open. Yes, in that particular play he was under some pressure, but he had enough time to get the ball out and wasn’t really rushed, just forced to run out of the pocket.
He’s hurting much more than he’s letting on. Hopefully, it’s just his foot that’s causing the problems, and his arm isn’t hurt from over-compensating from being flat-footed all season.
This offensive line scares me. They got beat all game long, and if the Giants HAD a long drive going, I don’t think this offensive line would’ve had the steam to keep it going. Again, our major failure was on the edges, breaking down the pocket and forcing Manning to run more often than David Carr. It also didn’t help that for the majority of the first half, the line was also getting beat on the inside as well.
Boss had a rough blocking day, missing three crucial blocks, which of which cost us several yards (I think all three of those were for 5+ yard losses)
We didn’t get much going in the running game, but there’s only so much Jacobs and Bradshaw can do when the offensive line doesn’t get any kind of push. Although Bradshaw is turning into Tiki Barber: amazing footwork, hard to tackle, and loves coughing up the ball.
The passing game is what saved us, and almost broke us. Credit goes to Manning and Jacobs for that amazing 74-yard pass play. Manning threw it perfectly so Jacobs could get some momentum going upfield, and Brandon did the rest. We also had some great catches by Manningham, Nicks, and Smith.
Of course it would help if Manningham could catch balls placed squarely in his chest, and if Smith could catch balls where he’s forced to extend himself.
Special Teams became relevant again, with Feagles actually punting the ball a decent distance, and Hixon doing his job and returning one for a touchdown. Overall, special teams was well executed.
Defensively, we continue to suck. We weren’t terrible, but we sure as hell weren’t good. Webster was overmatched all day long, and Johnson, for as much energy as he has, is a moron when it comes to proper coverage techniques. How many times is Johnson going to get turned around on a simple inside slant?
Inside there was little we could do, since the Jason Witen is pretty much the best Tight End in the game. Yeah, it kills me to see him break open, or catch those perfect passes, but not even LT could deal with this guy. The best you can do is hope that the LB corps covers him just well enough that Romo feels he can’t pass to him.
The line was … league average, at best. We managed to get pressure – finally – on the QB. Even if it is only two sacks, Romo was hit almost 20 times this game and under pressure much more. Our run defense was huge with the middle of the line finally getting off the ball and pushing the offensive line back, but our pass rush?
The pass rush left much to be desired. Osi, while recovering a fumble, was still a bit slow getting off of the snap, and so was tuck. In fact, both ends were so slow that I had to watch a replay of the game a few times to be sure the Dallas line wasn’t committing a false start penalty. They weren’t, Tuck, Osi, and Canty were half to a full second slower getting off the ball. Credit to Kiwi here, as he was keeping up with the snap.
Overall, it wasn’t a bad day for the Giants … just a decent one. We’ve seen them play much better than this at times, but hell, we beat the Cowboys and that’s all that matters. Now on to the Eagles.
Perfect Game
I guess you want the perfect game. Yes their were some mistakes but we have to give the opposing team some credit. They’re playing against opponents that often force mistakes. The team with the fewest mistakes often win. It’s a matter of wills.
You gotta save this kind of thing for a Thursday ...
after a big win. The troops aren’t in the mood to hear it, even if there are valid points in there. Monday’s after a win are for accentuating the positive !
I agree
let’s enjoy the win. Yeah, we can pick apart the game. Eli was terrible, Smith drops etc. During a long season it’s important to win the ugly games. A win is a win is a win. At least I won’t be a miserable week. Beating the Cowgirls is always an added bonus. Even my GF said this morning “I’d rather beat the Cowboys and lose the next 5 weeks”.
LMAO
yeah she said 5 weeks. I didn’t have the heart to correct her. Her point was heard loud and clear.
Just win baby!
Your right, not a perfect day and a lot to worry about, but we are in the home stretch as long as they keep winning I am not going to worry about style points
by Late for Dinner on Dec 7, 2009 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
Who really cares KaT?
Really, as long as they find ways to win games…does it really matter the stats?
Could it bite them later? yea, and it has already this season.
But if they find a way to win…it doesn’t matter.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Dec 7, 2009 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
I posted yesterday ...
that the time to “win ugly” is well past, and that we’d better start proving that we can beat the good teams convincingly. But, picking up the W is crucial.
Well, yesterday wasn’t classic “ugly”, and I saw way more good things than bad against the hated Boys. And they are a good team.
Hopfully, we will see more positives in a win over the Eagles and then have some real momentum heading into the post-season.
Winning is all that matters...
How you win, doesn’t matter.
Last year, they won convincingly a whole lot.
But 2007, there rarely won convincingly. They pretty much won ugly the whole season.
As we’ve seen…winning, and firing on all cylinders this year, only can mask what you need to work on.
It doesn’t matter how they win. Just win. Worry about how to correct it in the offseason.
"It ain't over till its over"---
But I've never seen a team without momentum ...
heading into the playoffs (and by that I mean playing well), go deep into the post-season. Even in 2007, we got that ’mo by playing well against the “Perfect Pats” in that closing loss.
Yesterday was a start, but I’m afraid our team needs to re-convince themselves that they are a team to be reckoned with, and get that swagger back.
Actually, strike that.
’Zona last year may have been the exception to the rule.
Our 07 team
Yeah they played well against the Pat’s but they pretty much stunk it up the whole month of December Anybody remember the Vikings game? I wanted to run Eli out of town on a rail.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 7, 2009 7:03 PM EST up reply actions
Some of those throws to Witten
were just perfect.
Give credit to Romo. Besides Boley’s tip, there were players around witten, its just that the two together are awesome, and no one could make a play on the ball.
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
"Osi is probably one of our worst db's but he did alright there"
To be honest what really matters to me
Was walking out of the bar as the only happy person, followed by about 15-20 unhappy whining complaining Cowboys fans. Man WAS I PUMPED FOR THIS GAME!!
Are Zillag in disguise?
Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!
by bigbluethruandthru on Dec 7, 2009 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone check in on Romohomo, Homoromo?
He could have earned major points if he had come by to offer his congrats or a few game worthy comments. Props to fans like Bye Dawk and jman, just to name a couple.
I was just posting about Mr Romo Homo
I think he is busy to busy on the Dallas board throwing his QB under the bus for missing Williams. Or maybe like most bandwagaon fans he jumped off the bandwagon and won’t be back till Dallas win’s again.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 7, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
Bye Dawk
Is one of a few Eagles fans that shows class around here. Maybe there are more, but we sort of all know the history of that franchise.
Kiwanuka
Ed, I’d like to lobby for Kiwanuka to a full fledged Kudo. Seemed to me he was flying around all over the place and in Romo’s face all day. When they gave the “hits” montage on Romo almost every one was Kiwi.
Oh, and he was the first one in Adams’ face after his cheap shot on Tuck.
Anyway, great job as usual.
Cofield
Cofield had a very good game and deserves kudos, but I think he’s been pretty good all season. There has been some “Barry bashing” on this site during our skid that I thought was unfair. Cofield has been our most-consistent DT by far this season. I know that’s not saying much, but he’s been pretty good.
Amazing to me how little we’ve seen from our big FA acquisitions (Canty and Bernard). The Jay Alford loss was a big blow. Hopefully he’ll recover fully and have a breakout season next year.
FA's D lineman
Canty is rounding in to form, however Rocky Benard signing was a disaster, talk about take the money and run. Hopefully we cut his butt
Canty
I noticed a few plays where canty was in the backfield right after the snap of the ball, splitting a few double teams.. a defensive tackle really can’t be measured by the stats, it needs further tape review.. but from what i remember, he didn’t look all too bad. Cofield on the other hand looked like Darnell Dockett out there though.
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Kudos to Osi
instead of moping around, he took it like a man and used it to motivate himself.
It also challenged Kiwi to do better, to prove that he earned the starting spot, and it worked.
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
"Osi is probably one of our worst db's but he did alright there"
And on that note
I say we start Nicks and Ham should be the one who comes off the bench. Nicks is stronger and has better hands. I’m also tired of seeing Ham run himself out of bounds on his routes, he did it again yesterday. He needs to get a better grip of where he is on the field.
I agree with you
I was calling for that a few weeks ago.
However, having a problem determining which one starts is a problem most teams would like to have.
At least Hixon isn’t starting again.
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
"Osi is probably one of our worst db's but he did alright there"
I feel better about this win than ATL or any wins since the first DAL game
I hope this doesn’t mean that we can only convincingly beat Dallas this season. Everyone is dealing to the ‘easy beats’, although that may no longer include Washington, and the ATL wins still feels like a 51-49 game that came down to a coin toss. While I am not getting too excited at this stage this does feel like a ‘real’ win that was honestly earned against good opposition.
Here’s hoping for a GB loss today as this may help the Giants in the run for a playoff berth.
He was like a god walking amongst mere mortals. He had a voice that could make a wolverine purr and suits so fine they made Sinatra look like a hobo.
Wow...
I turn on ESPN…and right away I hear Jaworski say that “Dallas should NOT have lost that game……”.
Seriously…
"It ain't over till its over"---
All I can think of ...
is that he had it in his head that the Boys were better going in based on how the two teams had played lately.
The G-men definitely played the overall better game yesterday, as reflected on the scoreboard.
Jaw's
Love him but I think LT scrambled his brain a litlle, he will come out with some off the wall observations so I am not suprised.
What you really need to worry about is when Jaws starts picking your team to win!
by Late for Dinner on Dec 7, 2009 7:06 PM EST up reply actions
and this whole Dallas "December swoon" is bullcrap too.
Without getting stats ready…its really not like the Giants have been all that great in December under Coughlin either……
Its more Dallas’ January swoon, that deserves mention.
"It ain't over till its over"---
Actually
they haven’t had a winning record in December in the last seven seasons. That kind of streak tends to build momentum.
Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!
by bigbluethruandthru on Dec 7, 2009 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
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