'Kudos & Wet Willies:' Total domination edition
There are a lot of reasons to feel good this morning if you are a New York Giants fan. Monday night's 45-12 thrashing of the Washington Redskins was the most complete game the Giants have played in more than two months -- since a 44-7 pounding of Oakland in Week 5.
Everything worked. The offense did what it wanted, marching up and down the field with relative ease. The defense dominated, looking like the group we expected to see all season. The special teams were good, showing improvements in both coverage and kick returns.
If only the Saints had beaten the Cowboys then this morning would be absolutely perfect. Let's just hope the Giants can carry the kind of performance they displayed Monday night through the final two weeks of the regular season.
By the way, ESPN flashed a stat during the game showing the 45 points was the most the Giants had scored in a road game in 55 years. Yes, 55 years. It was that kind of night.
Now, let's get on with the weekly 'Kudos & Wet Willies.'
Kudos to ...
I could just say 'Kudos to the entire team' and leave it at that. But, that would be too easy. So, here we go.
- Eli Manning: All of the gushing over Manning by ESPN's Jon Gruden aside, Manning was fabulous Monday night. He went 19-for-26 for 268 yards and three touchdowns, and was in complete control of the game. Ten different receivers caught passes for the Giants, another indication that Eli did pretty much what he wanted.
- The defensive line: The much-maligned defensive line. This group led the defensive charge, handing Redskin quarterback Jason Campbell a brutal beating. Campbell probably deserves a 'kudos' for just standing in there and taking the five sacks and I have no idea how many hard hits. Osi Umenyiora was as active as he has probably been all season. Justin Tuck had a sack and a forced fumble. Mathias Kiwanuka had five tackles and was constantly around Campbell. Defensive tackles Fred Robbins and Barry Cofield joined the sack party, and along with Chris Canty were solid against the run.
- The offensive line: Probably the best indicator that Monday was a Giant-like performance is that 'kudos' go to both lines. The offensive line was terrific against the Redskins. Lots of pulling, some space for the running game and plenty of time most of the night for Manning to work his magic against the Washington secondary. Special 'kudos' to rookie Will Beatty and backup guard Kevin Boothe. Beatty did an outstanding job filling in for the injured Kareem McKenzie. I can't remember a play where he was beaten badly all night. Boothe stepped in when Rich Seubert went out with a knee sprain and also played well aside from being overpowered by Albert Haynesworth on one play. Absolutely loved his work on Ahmad Bradshaw's second touchdown, pulling left in front of the play and wiping out two Redskins defenders with one block to allow Bradshaw to walk untouched into the end zone.
- Kevin Gilbride: The first Giants play of the night was a nicely executed screen pass to reserve tight end Bear Pascoe. From there, pretty much everything Gilbride dialed up -- with the exception of one reverse to Hakeem Nicks -- worked brilliantly. KG can have games where he makes you crazy, but he can also have games like Monday night where he seems to push the right button on every play call. Loved the screens, the fact that so many receivers caught passes, and the subtle changes in formations and run-blocking schemes that helped create some running lanes even against Washington's eight-man fronts.
- Bill Sheridan: Not sure exactly what clicked for the beleaguered Giants' defensive coordinator, but when the defense applies that much pressure on the quarterback, plays with that much energy and ends up with a Pick Six you have to give him some credit. It seemed like the Giants simplified their schemes a little, and there wasn't any of the confusion we have so often seen this season.
- Terrell Thomas: A Pick Six (an easy one), two passes defensed and four tackles for Thomas. He was excellent against the pass and in run support.
- Jonathan Goff: A pair of tackles, his first career sack and a couple of other quarterback pressures, and a pass defensed for the young middle linebacker. The kid can play a little bit.
- Ahmad Bradshaw: When Bradshaw is making plays like he did Monday night the Giants offense is much more explosive. Nine carries for 61 yards (6.8 yards per carry) and two touchdowns, along with three pass receptions for 29 more yards.
- Lawrence Tynes and the kickoff coverage group: Some good, deep kickoffs by Tynes (including one into the end zone). Odds are that had a lot to do with the best kickoff coverage the Giants have displayed in quite a while, surrendering no returns longer than 21 yards.
'Wet Willies' to ...
Yes, I was able to find one 'Wet Willie' to hand out. And, honestly, it's given more for stupidity than for performance.
- Brandon Jacobs: What the heck was Jacobs thinking, getting himself involved in a second-half melee that saw him trading punches with a couple of Washington players and -- eventually -- squared off with Haynesworth of all people? Amazingly, Jacobs escaped an ejection or a penalty, both of which he probably deserved. He won't escape a hefty fine from the league, and probably a tongue-lashing from coach Tom Coughlin for his lack of composure. On top of that, Jacobs did not have a great night carrying the ball. On a night where there were big plays all over the Giants offense, Jacobs carried 16 times for 52 yards, a pedestrian 3.3 yards per carry.
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Great week but...
… can we give a Wet Willy to the refs for having a third game this season where Kevin Boss makes a catch, takes a helmet to helmet hit, and no flag is thrown? I don’t know what it is about Kevin Boss, but he’s always taking shots to the head.
By the way, totally loved the Bear Pascoe screen. I sat there for about a minute trying to remember who the heck 86 was. That kind of night indeed.
Indeed
Should have known KG was primed for a great night when he dialed that up on the first play. As for the Boss thing, it was an awkward fall/tackle. But yes, helmet to helmet. And how on earth can Jacobs not be penalized when he threw punches at two separate Redskins players? Amazing.
by Ed Valentine on Dec 22, 2009 7:28 AM EST up reply actions
Jacobs and Haynsworth both should of been ejected
KG was very good, He’s been using the TE screen this year but the past two weeks he’s been screening it to AB and BJack. That’s something thats been missing from the Giants attack most of the year and it’s worked nicely the past two weeks. Keep that up.
Jacobs needs to cut out this boxing crap...
…before that ghetto ass mentality catches up with him and ultimately ends up costing the team. You aren’t a boxer, guy, you are a football player!
by Step up and make big plays on Dec 22, 2009 7:55 AM EST up reply actions
Jacobs etc...
I agree, he should’ve been penalized, if not ejected along with Haynesworth. Haynesworth just happened to get caught, it’s not right, but the retaliation always seems to get caught. But the only reason i think they both should’ve been ejected, though they missed Jacobs throwing punches, is last week, Trent Cole was ejected for throwing punches. There has to be consistency amongst these refs!
BTW, Jacobs really needs to bottle-up his temper. The Giants were well in control of the game and really didn’t need a disruption like this!
yes, ghetto...
…reminiscent of Nate Robinson’s reaction against Denver a few years back — immediately up come the dukes, which only escalates things. Put down your fists and let your play do the talking…
by Step up and make big plays on Dec 22, 2009 9:11 AM EST up reply actions
Jumping to conclusions
Jacobs trains as a fighter in the offseason, and wants to go into boxing promotion. No need to call it ghetto, Brandon is not Ghetto, he got threw some punches and deserves a fine.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 22, 2009 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
he was actually
bouncing side to side with his fists up like he was in a ring…I couldn’t believe it.
"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs
so weird...
they do realize that they have helmets on right? I know i wouldn’t want to punch hard plastic or metal facemask of someone’s helmet (especially when it’s 10 friggin degrees out.) My hand bones would turn to dust.
Thats what I said when it happened
Still thats why they play football and arent scientists.
Some may have given up on the Giants this season, but they WILL make the playoffs.
by ChuckyofNorris on Dec 22, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
nothing ghetto about it...
he’s a small town kid who get’s fired up and who fancies himself a boxer of sorts. the fight was stupid, but don’t make it racial… in any case, Haynesworth deserved a penalty for pancaking the pile after the whistle with Eli twisted up in it. the fight was offsetting if more flagrant in the case of Jacobs… so you could either eject both stars, or just move on… normally if the helmets stay on, no one gets ejected… and I’m glad that no one was hurt
nothing racial implied by it at all...
…it’s a modern day figure of speech. Low class.
by Step up and make big plays on Dec 22, 2009 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
Yes Jacobs acted like an idiot and should have got tossed....
Haynesworth just came in to defend his teamate, and it’s the same old thing with the Referees..the first guy seen throwing a punch or whatever is the guy who gets nailed..One thing is for sure the league is going to be donating a big portion of his salary to charity..As far as his play is concerned, he didn’t have a good night, but at least he was running the ball more North/South than he has been this year.
the refs deserved a Wet Willy all around
and not just for us. They screwed the Redskins over with the penalty on Haynseworth (it should have been offsetiing – no way Jacobs should have gotten out of there w/o a penalty). They missed another call that I can’t think of right now.
Also, right before the half looked a lot like a catch and fumble into the end zone, though I admittedly was watching it live so I didn’t have the best view. That said, I’m glad they called it incomplete b/c it set up the most insane play calling I’ve ever witnessed. What would we do to Coughlin/Gilbride/whoever if they dialed up that crazy fake field goal play, and then proceeded to run it AFTER the opposing team called a TO and set up for it? That was just asinine.
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
Ha! Remember?
I had no idea who Bear Pascoe was. I guess I missed that transacation. When they annouced who caught that first pass I was saying, “Who the heck is that?” Ha.
Bear Pascoe
I knew who he was, but I thought he was just on the practice squad. I definitely didn’t think he’d be in the game for the 1st play from scrimmage. Does that count as a start?
I didnt even notice he had the catch
I just thought it was a good play
Some may have given up on the Giants this season, but they WILL make the playoffs.
by ChuckyofNorris on Dec 22, 2009 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
I always wonder that
how do they define “starts”? Like, if Ahmad Bradshaw gets the first play, but then Brandon Jabobs gets the next 10, was Bradshaw the starter?
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
First play
Ware technically didn’t start for Dallas last week, but he may as well have been one
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
When there's a WILL there's a WAY
How about the WR's
No end zone drops as far as I am aware.
Manningham stayed in bounds.
Hagan gets a TD
Nicks is great at YAC – but how is his injury?
by G Fan in England on Dec 22, 2009 7:30 AM EST reply actions
Nicks
No word yet on the hamstring. All of the receivers were excellent — even a touchdown catch for Derek Hagan. Wow!
by Ed Valentine on Dec 22, 2009 7:52 AM EST up reply actions
Nicks
MG & RV tweeted that Nicks says it’s not bad. He’s acually played with the hamstring injury a couple of weeks & it’s definitely not a tear.
by potroast on Dec 22, 2009 8:03 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
The only thing that concerns me about this guy is the injury's
He’s had them since the NFL combine.
He’s humble, pretty smart and a hardworker.
If he stays healthy, he’s going to be really good and linning up along side Smitty that would a great one two punch.
That big catch an run last night was a route PLax ran all of the time intermediate sqaure in route, he does not have Plax’s size but he can sure run with it after the catch. Once Eli gets really confortbale with him look out.
I wouldn't worry
Most rookie WRs have hamstring problems. He’ll be fine after he figures out how to train for an NFL season.
I’ve never been this exited about a Giants’ rookie WR in my life. He’s a stud.
by potroast on Dec 22, 2009 8:16 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
You mean you were not this excited for
Sinnorice Moss or Tim Carter or ROn Dixon or even the great Thomas Lewis? What about Stacey Robinson or Bobby Johnson?
Leave
Bobby Johnson out of this.
His 4th and 22 catch against the Vikings in 1986 means he is beyond all critcism!
by G Fan in England on Dec 22, 2009 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
good point
I guess I should lay off of Dixon because of his KR vs Philly in the playoffs
by Landeta on Dec 22, 2009 10:22 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Naah
jump on Dixon – remember the hook and ladder play against the Eagles when he slowed up because of the block ahead and was tackled at the 5 yard line as time expired .
But then rumour has it he did score in the SB in the game CJ insists never happened….
by G Fan in England on Dec 22, 2009 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
I honestly believe
that the current group of receivers is the best in Giants history, or at least will be.
i loved
watching kevin boothe play last night. he was a monster on every snap, but at the end of every play his hands went on his hips and he looked like he was about to fall over with a heart attack.
that man needs to lose some weight.
I was thinking it looks more like about 100 pounds of chewed bubble gum...
by Step up and make big plays on Dec 22, 2009 7:53 AM EST up reply actions
LOL
I was thinking the same thing. The dude is not a bad player, but the shape of his body is the oddest thing I’ve ever seen.
The Eagles are the first team in NFL history to have a running back and a wide receiver with 500 yards apiece in the same season before their 22nd birthdays.
Blackburn played lights out on special teams
How about not letting the Skins convert an extra point or a 2 point conversion has that ever happened before???
The D Line
has to be said that the Redskins OL is woeful so that may explain why the DL was in the backfield so much – still the Giants won and kept the season alive for another week.
by G Fan in England on Dec 22, 2009 7:46 AM EST reply actions
How about TC
calling a timeout before the fake FG – good awareness on his part.
by G Fan in England on Dec 22, 2009 7:47 AM EST reply actions
Nick Route Running
I really liked Nick’s Square-in route. He made his cut then came BACK for the ball. It was subtle, but that 1-2 yard come back gave him the great separation that made the catch easy. If he waited for the ball to come to him, a break up would have been easier. This way it was pitch and catch.
Who blocked the XP???
If it was Fred, then that’s about all he has been good for this (3-4x already)
by Step up and make big plays on Dec 22, 2009 7:56 AM EST reply actions
I'm almost positive
ESPN did not show the replay but it looked like a big man with a ninety something number on and when I say big I don’t mean tall but wide.
It was
I DVRed the game. I watched the play twice to find out who blocked it.
I'd like to give Boley a wet willie...
…for that piss poor attempt at a tackle on Cartwright’s long scamper. Bad fundamentals there…
by Step up and make big plays on Dec 22, 2009 7:57 AM EST reply actions
Yea he looked a bit slow last night
he’s been a so-so player this year hopefully with a full training camp and better health he’ll perform better next year.
SO SO???
Just check his productivity and then look at games played LOL, the guy has played half the games but damn near leads in tackles if thats so-so, cant wait for nxt yr
B.G.
About the D
THey seem to have Washington’s number, the Skins can’t do anything against them especailly Cambell, he really struggles. The Giants D-Line dominates their O-line and Campell seems to be afraid to go deep. He’s the only QB the Giants play against that does not take shots down the field it’s wierd considering that seems to be the approach of every other team takes against the G-Men.
Despite all the issues with the secondary this year TT has had a very good year, he tackles well seems to have a knack for getting picks he’s developed into a nice player and he showed it again last night.
We still need new safteys, a D-Tackle, and faster LB’s. Cofield seems to be comming on a bit maybe it was the knee injury that slowed him down this year but he’s played better. I still don’t like Canty. Like Ed said Goff can play a bit, nothing spectacular but he gets his nose in there and he should get better.
At one point, i felt bad for Campbell
Which would indicate why he wasn’t going deep, he absolutely had no time. But one thing that did annoy me was when the Skins were moving the ball, it was the screens and swings to Mason. I’m not certain what the coverages were, but they (Skins) were getting into a rhythym with that play and he was getting the yards. I’m assuming the Giants were protecting the intermediate-longer routes, but still, adjust and spy the RB for these plays.
I felt bad for Cambell too
Guys does not complain he just gets his head knocked off and keeps playing, I have wierd feeling he’s going to end up being an ok QB in this league wheter it’s with Washington or some other team he’s got real toughness.
When the Skins moved the ball and the screens it was becasue the Gianst were still blitzing and Wash was throwing the ball into the empty spaces. . . one was a a CB blitz and TT vacated an area and they hit the back in that spot, Boley then missed the tackle and it wa a big play. The one’s to the TE’s they were blitzing the LB’s. I think Gurden or Jaws made a comment about why in the world were the Giants still Bltzing with a huge lead.
Now that you mention it
I do recall the Giants still blitzing and them commenting on it. Presumably then, thats probably why the Skins were calling for screens and quick hitters to counter the blitz!
Goff looks like a serviceble player
for what the Giants need in a MLB. Doesn’t need to be an amazing Ray Lewis type of player, only a guy that is stout against the run and can defend the seams when the pesky TE’s try that route
by mclaren_is_the_best on Dec 22, 2009 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
He seems like he's gonna be more then servicable...
that dude can HIT!
"It ain't over till its over"---
3rd down + Steve Smith = 1st Down.
"I just saw Avatar, and Sean Avery was hands down the best character!"
by FreeBradshaw on Dec 23, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
It was the Skins man
And this does not bode well for the Skins beating Dallas.
But some life remains in this Giants team.
any given sunday
any team can beat any team. Lets go Redskins
i Know
But i think they will beat the boys….their all playing for jobs and they always compete with the boys…………….can we beat carolina after the way they played against the vikes…….we need to worry bout us and thats it
B.G.
Open mouth, insert foot
Where did this team come from last night? Seriously, why couldn’t they play like that all year? That fire I was talking about yesterday, well, they definitely had it. I just hope it wasn’t too late. If they play like that, then I will reverse and say they CAN beat anyone! I loved the pull and block by Boothe.
Good thing we had a bye this week
I think the injuries to Ross and Webster would have hurt us if we played a team this week.
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
When there's a WILL there's a WAY
Hard to recall too many games in my Giant lifetime where they completely ran over an opponent like this. You know what bugs the ever living love out of me?
If they hold on to beat the Chargers and Cards, last night clinches the division. Ahh the life of a New York Giants fan.
But, my confidence level is up, I think by the grace of Santa Claus, they are going to get this done.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Dec 22, 2009 8:29 AM EST reply actions
What really sucks is that we now have to root for these same Redskins that completely mailed in their performance last night.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Dec 22, 2009 8:31 AM EST up reply actions
clinches the division?
They’d have the same record as the Eagles, no? I think you mean clinch the playoffs, right? Can I use a fourth question mark in 4 sentences? Yes, I can.
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
Or if the special teams wasnt terrible
and we hadnt let in the return touchdown, we couldve won against the eagles.
Some may have given up on the Giants this season, but they WILL make the playoffs.
by ChuckyofNorris on Dec 22, 2009 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone else at the game?
Great time! Great Christmas gift for my Dad, we had a blast. All the Giants fans cheering, G-men getting us involved in the game, and a great product on the field.
Since this was my first time at FedEx Field, I do however need to vent…
-Traffic was absolutely terrible. Got off the exit from 495 and it took us 1.5 hours to get the the parking lot. We missed nearly the entire 1st quarter.
-For all the boasting they were doing about the snow removal, the idiots dumped it all into 2 parking lots that they had to close.
-Getting into the stadium was a pain, since they turned it into a choke point where a thousand people had to get patted down by 2 security guards. Then we had some a-holes trying to cut in line.
-The douche that scanned my ticket to get in saw my Giants gear on and tried to make me wait so he could let some Skins fan through.
-The jokes they call “Jumbo trons” were pretty pathetic.
Now that I vented, awsome game. Loved it, especially the dude a couple rows infront of us balling on his girlfriends shoulder after the Terrell Thomas’ pick six. Pretty pathetic.
they did mention during the game that the fans had to go through quite a lot just to get to the game, but props to you for making it, you got to see a great one
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Dec 22, 2009 8:33 AM EST up reply actions
I ended up parking at the Metro and walking the 3/4 mile or so to the stadium and we ended up passing the cars ahead of us on foot while they were still waiting in traffic. It was bad.
by Larry Soprano on Dec 22, 2009 8:47 AM EST up reply actions
I agree with every complaint you have
It was also my first game at Fed Ex Field and man was the traffic a nightmare. My girlfriend and I left from Silver Spring (~15 minutes away) and it took us an hour an a half to get there. Luckily we had planned on meeting some people to tailgate so we left plenty early, and we barely got there in time for kickoff. There were also a lot of assholes taking up multiple spots in the parking lot – I understand that you want to tailgate and spread your stuff out, but when there are two parking lots closed and the ones that are open have a ton of unparkable spots b/c of snow, don’t be a dick and just park your car in one spot.
I was actually a little embarrassed by how empty the stadium was, even before the rout began (aka, kickoff). I know a lot of Redskins fans and I honestly respect them as a fanbase a lot, but this was kind of pathetic, especially when you consider that probably about 20-25% of the fans there initially were Giants fans. I went to the 2003 finale (Jesse Palmer @ QB) when the Giants were fighting for the #1 overall pick against the Panthers, and that had a way bigger crowd. Hopefully the Redskins get better soon – the NFC East is a more fun division when they are good, IMO.
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
I would have left earlier but...
I had to wait for my Dad who sat in bumper to bumper traffic on 95 coming from NC. I live in Silver Spring too and we finally left my house at 6:15 and we weren’t seated until 9pm. What a mess.
I told my Dad, how would you have liked to have been the Skins fan that got in around the same time as us down 14 and then down 24-0 at the half? I would not have blamed them if they turned right around and left.
by Larry Soprano on Dec 22, 2009 8:54 AM EST up reply actions
if the Skins get Mike Shanahan this division
will be extremely nasty
yes and no...
…Shanahan + interventionist owner historically has not equaled a recipe for success. We’ll have to wait and see.
by Step up and make big plays on Dec 22, 2009 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
and if
they get a QB. Shanahan been mediocre without Elway.
Yea on TV they showed pitctures of the area
and the traffic looked terrible all night. Good for you for going that must have been a blast.
Big win... congrats.
I’m rooting for you guys to make the playoffs. Ew, did I just say that?
Hopefully sometime this week it sinks into the Redskins’ heads that they have a new boss and their jobs are on the line.
Has any team ever had such a strange season?
The Giants have had 24-0, 44-7, & 44-12 wins and 48-27, 40-17, and 26-6 losses. That just makes no sense.
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
Yes
The Pats in 2007 – they wom 18 games and set a single season scoring records etc and then lost 17-14 – just how strange is that!
by G Fan in England on Dec 22, 2009 8:56 AM EST up reply actions
It's what the NFL calls mediocraty, .. .errrr I mean parity
It’s an average league each team is one injury or one good scheme from being 12-4 or 4-12.
The NFL tells you it’s great becasue every year your team has a chance and can rebuilt in a year which is true but the product on the field week in and week out is very average at best so you see this wild games and seasons by teams. Look at Philly last year, 9 win team that plays average football at best most of the year well Plax shoots himself and Tampa melts down next thing you know they’re in the NFC championship game.
I miss the old days when it took time to build a good team through the draft and the very good teams could withstand injuries but I’m one of the few that feels that way.
both you and G Fan are right in a way
but I mean, has any team ever both blown out and been blown out this many times in a single year? Bad teams get blown out a lot, good teams usually blow teams out a lot. Mediocre teams, though? They usually are competitive in a lot of games, maybe get blown out once or twice, maybe have a blow out win. But I really don’t know if any team has been as consistently hit or miss as these Giants – when they are on, they look like the ‘07 Pats. But when they’re off, they look like the ‘08 Lions. It’s just strange, I would be curious if any team in NFL History has had 6 games as lopsided as those I listed above and been on opposite sides for 3 of each.
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
This pains me to say it ...
but the most creative play calling from our coordinators … ever.
KG had just a great mix of run and pass, and not just the vanilla plays.
BS was a maniac with the “kitchen sink” blitzes, but that’s what you have to do to cover up for what we had to start in the secondary last night. Sure it lead to a couple of scores, but also a ton of 3-and-outs. Great trade-off.
The most priceless moment was Zorn’s expression when they missed the extra point. We should get a freeze frame and have a “fill in the caption” contest !
BTW, we're going to ...
lock up KG and BS with 5-year contract extensions now, right ??
I really dont think we should ever let KG go
He has worked with Manning on this offense for several years now (5-6) Eli has mastered this offense due to his work ethic and knowledge of the game. Theres no way we should let KG go, look at Jason Campbell or Alex Smith. Those guys are in the NFL for a reason because they have all the talent in the world. But you still need your coaches and when you go threw an offensive coordinator every year, well thats recipe for disater.
WTF was Zorn thinking
Have my punter throw up a Hail Mary into coverage after the D takes a TO to adust to my “muddle huddle” formation they barley works on the HS level? THat man deserves to get fired. His O has almost gotten Jason Cambell killed this year.
KG had his A game going yesterday
See this is why I am so hard on KG becasue I know he is capable of coming up with a great game plan that both suprises the D and keeps them off balance. KG is ready for the playoffs
B.S. I am going to hold off on before he get’s any praise, while I certainly don’t want to throw cold water on our Defense performance, I don’t think the Redskins even tried to attack our weakness (the safety position) Towards the end they started but it seemed to me that Campbell came into the game a beatup QB and our D Line beat him like he owed them money. He was just slow all night long. So B.S great game plan let’s see you do it again on Sunday!
by Late for Dinner on Dec 22, 2009 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
BS
agreed. I’m not ready to praise him. One game does not make a DC.
Loved the game, but...
It was great to see the Giants play with some fire. They played like they needed the game, and they did. Everything worked, for the first time since the Oakland game.
But… let’s not forget that this is the first time since the Oakland game that they played a team with a losing record. There were still some spots here and there in the second half where the defensive weaknesses came to the fore, especially on runs up the middle by a team with a weak offensive line.
I look forward to the Carolina game – I’d like to see the G-men show that spark in consecutive games, and I don’t expect that John Fox will let his team lie down the way the Skins did. Should be a good game.
Nevertheless, we have reason to hope.
Mickey C
Kudos to the Giant Fans who stay positive.
Obviously, I’m not kudoing myself. This is a perplexing team. Let’s see what they do with the Panthers. That will decide it, at least for me, if this team deserves to make the playoffs,
more so than the Vikings game which, ironically, may actually decide it. All in all, a big smile this morning, fan-brain reeling with possibilities, doing a rain man with stats and history (it helps me sleep), and wishing for a dollop of schadenfreude in regards to the Cowboys this Sunday.
I get a 'wet willy' then
I am more confident after last night, but we still need green bay and/or dallas to lose.
I'm get a wet-willy too
I still don’t like our situation rotting for a GB or Dallas loss but it is what it is lets hope they can pull it out.
Quick poll ...
can we give Zillag back his razor blades ?
I got in from a long day of travel
half dreading the score… given the G-men’s ability to dig themselves holes early in games this year and all. Well, i was absolutely happy as could be when I saw 14-0… which just kept the good feeling going as the Giants crushed the Skins. I agree with the one Willie, as Jacobs has to be smarter than that… though he has shown an ability to get himself into trash talk and general stupidity like that, so maybe he is not capable of being smart enough to avoid that. Top notch game, hopefully they are not flat versus the Panthers this week.
Gilbride and Jacobs
I’m one of the harshest Gilbride critics you will be find. But even I have to give credit to his playcalling. The first drive was awesome. He was throwing inside screens, outside screens, and screens to players I have never heard of. The ’Skins defense was baffled and completely on their heels.
Jacobs hasn’t looked the same this entire year. Even the few decent games he had were not that great. We have tried to talk ourselves into thinking he is back to his old self, but he doesn’t pass the eyeball test. His numbers in those supposed good games would be below average games in years past (around 4 ypc). Whenever a sweep or a toss is called for him, you can pretty much guarantee that it isn’t going for positive yardage. He will more than likely just run himself out of bounds. I think he can be moderately effective if we just pound him up the middle for 3 and 4 yard gains. But I don’t think we should be hoping for much more out of him.
The difference between Jacobs and Bradshaw is that when Bradshaw sees a hole he GOES and looks like he is shot out of a cannon. When Jacobs has a hole it seems like it takes him forever to get there. Plus, the fact that Bradshaw is a homerun threat only makes this offense that much dangerous.
How bout the BEAR
Pascoe I mean . . .the man cannont be stoped he’s our new secret weapon. I’m going out and buying a #86 Pascoe jersey ASAP!
+1
As I said in the in-game thread, you know you are in for a long night on D when Bear Pascoe goes for 9 yards against you on by design the first play from scrimmage…
by Step up and make big plays on Dec 22, 2009 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
+1000
To Pascoe’s parents for naming him BEAR!!
by Late for Dinner on Dec 22, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly...
…he sounds like a character straight out of the Dukes of Hazzard. Bear Pascoe.
by Step up and make big plays on Dec 22, 2009 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
Mark my words
I’m saying it here first. Even after the egg the Redskins laid last night, they will beat the Cowboys this week.
i really hope this is true
You better be right
By the way, have any of the reporters asked Justin Tuck if next week’s game is a “Must win” yet?
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Dec 22, 2009 9:24 AM EST reply actions
First play
was play action and I think they were trying to go deep like they have many times over the past few years when they’ve gone play action early in the game on first down, just the play got blown up and Eli and Pascoe made a nice adjustment.
It's refreshing
I respect very few TV game analysts. Gruden is as good as they come. When an analyst like that raves about Eli it puts to bed all the doubters.
+1
He’s great and was still entertaining even when the game was way out of hand. That’s a hard task.
I was also impressed with Matt Millen’s knowledge of the Giants and that shocked me (I didn’t have that impression before). He made Steve Young look like an idiot, who just used the old, tired cliches. Millen actually knew some of what has been going on along both of the Giants’ lines.
I like Millen
as an analyst. As an analyst he takes a bad rap due to his reputation as Lions GM. I’ve read where someone said Millen has no credibility due to the debacle in Detroit. One has nothing to do with the other.
well
he definitely should never criticize any other GM. He’s got no credibility in that arena. But overall I tend to agree with you – he only got the GM job b/c he was such a good analyst. The two don’t really translate to one another
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
I was wondering if last night's game...
…felt all too familiar for Millen? It seemed to me that in his commentary he focused on the Giants’ positives, not the Redskins’ negatives, perhaps for good reason…
by Step up and make big plays on Dec 22, 2009 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I don't think you need ...
Giraldi to teach you “how” to slide, but just have the brains to know “when” to slide.
Steve Young is an idiot
The reason your noticing it more this year is because in the past Young’s partner was Emmit Smiff and he just was not up to Steve’s speed. Now that Matt is there he brings a lot of knolege and less cliche’s
by Late for Dinner on Dec 22, 2009 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
you know Young's stupid..
when Millen’s the one bringing the knowledge….
"It ain't over till its over"---
3rd down + Steve Smith = 1st Down.
"I just saw Avatar, and Sean Avery was hands down the best character!"
by FreeBradshaw on Dec 22, 2009 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
LMAO
Time for ESPN to retire Steve Young.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 22, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
did you just call steve young a monkey
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Dec 22, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
No, just a reference ...
to his post-Supe “got that monkey off my back” moment.
Keep Young
get rid of that wannabee thug, Stewart Scott. The guy is terrible.
I beg your pardon
What part of Stuart Scott comes off thuggish? Certainly he brings a hip hop feel in his commentary by that shouldn’t be equated with thuggary.
Stuart Scott is a great commentator
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Dec 23, 2009 9:27 AM EST up reply actions
I don't think he's a thug...
I think he’s an idiot…one of those walk the company line types (“Giants are whatever record vs. the spread…I have no football knowledge, so I take them”),
He’s just a dude who reads whatever the telepromptor stays.
"It ain't over till its over"---
3rd down + Steve Smith = 1st Down.
"I just saw Avatar, and Sean Avery was hands down the best character!"
by FreeBradshaw on Dec 23, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
Stuart Scott sucks
but not b/c he’s a “wannabe thug.”
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
is it because...
you’re constantly trying to figure out which EYE he’s looking at you with!
OHHHH!
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Dec 24, 2009 7:51 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah Young is barely able to articulate anything..He took too many shots to the head..
His elevator is stuck on the third floor, and he has no sharp knives in his drawer..He’s leaking oil, and he blew a head gasket….That means he’ll never qualify to be a “Bell-boy”..Never be a “Chef”..and never work for “Autozone”..Which leaves him one opportunity: GM for the Lions…
Well
I’m not sure that certain people are idiots for sure, in fact I know Steve Young isn’t an idiot(I believe he has a law degree) but they don’t connect well on TV, Young is one of those people and I think Tiki might be another. I bet if you put those guys in a column or even the radio they may be more effective
Keep in mind ...
that Eli’s in-game knowlege and adjustments, already a strength, with only improve over time. He may never have Peyton’s quick release, or accuracy, but can be his equal in the mental part of the game someday.
I don't think he gets enough credit
in that area. He has a lot more responsibilities than many other QBs.
love the
check off at the line OPPOSITE! OPPOSITE!
he ran the play in the opposite direction.
I love Gruden.
He just knows the game so well. Not to take anything from Jaws knowledge but hes just an arrogant jerk imo. And if I wouldnt get in any trouble I would probably try and rough up Chris Collinsworth. Man hes worthless.
I don't like Gruden
He knows the game but he’s trying too hard with the jokes IMO. Jaws OTOH is awesome.
Also Gruden always exaggerates
e.g. “That play was OUTSTANDING, hes a hall of famer”, “This backup is one of the bets players in the league”.
Some may have given up on the Giants this season, but they WILL make the playoffs.
by ChuckyofNorris on Dec 23, 2009 2:35 AM EST up reply actions
He's a bit effusive
but entertaining. Of these guys, Scott, Gruden, Jaws, all of them are better than this Hall of Shame: Troy Gaykman, Joe %uck, Tony Fattagusa, Moose Johnston, Terry Bradshaw, Shannon Sharpe, Keyshawn Johnson…
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Dec 23, 2009 9:29 AM EST up reply actions
The only frustration last night
was wondering where this team has been for 8 weeks. Both lines were fabulous. An extra special Kudo to Beatty. It appears JR has found another gem. There’s no arguing about his drafting talent.
KG. Without question is shining moment in play calling. The opening drive was a gem.
TC. I loved how demonstrative he was on the sidelines. Constantly, rushing the offense ensuring they play with lots of tempo.
Even the reverse
I liked the call on the reverse. Yeah, we lost 2 yards. Every play isn’t going to work. But the play calling stretched out the defense. Absolutely, loved the play call on 3rd down on their first TD. It’s something I’ve screamed for for 3 seasons. Stretch out the defense. Then run the f*cking ball.
Agreed ...
if it does nothing else but keep the defense honest, mission accomplished.
I'd like to nominate the Redskins for a "Wet Willy Billy Silly What in the Helly"...
It was the first time in my life I ever EVER saw an “Onsides Pass Play”…Not once, but twice!!!…What the hell was that?
For those feeling sorry for Campbell ...
that intentional grounding penalty was about as pathetic a play from someone who had already checked out of the game as I can imagine.
I’m not even sure what the question is in Washington, but Campbell is not the answer.
I agree Shof Campbell is not the answer...
But he was getting the tar kicked out of him..Sacked fives times and hit to the frozen turf a dozen more times…That had to hurt big-time.
He's the type of QB ...
that you want to bring pressure on, and make him beat you with the hot reads. He just seems so painfully slow and deliberate. He’s started for 3 years (more ?), and just doesn’t have enough of the mental game down for the quick reads.
Totally agree
I was happy to see Campbell return to the game because Collins looked like he would have made some big plays on the secondary. Campbell would be a good no.2 but he reads the defense to slow and telegraphs his throws.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 22, 2009 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
Wouldn't it be awesome if ...
the Skins started Collins as a surprise to the Boys ?!?
Campbell is hurt
While I loved seeing Campbell peel himself off the turf, he is definitly got some injuries that are nagging him. Osi did not do anything special on his sack and Campbell had to leave the game. I think Collins gives them better play because, he is healthy and he reads the defense a little quicker…. One point if the Redskins line plays like they did last night, it won’t matter who is at QB.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 22, 2009 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
his reads
are slow cause they change them along with the OC every year, by the time he masters them the OC gets axed. The best thing that could happen to him is to get signed by a team with an aging QB for some depth and sit for year and watch and learn properly. He has all the tools and the right attitude IMO. Minnesota if Favre comes back and they don’t think Taveres is the long term answer.
Maybe its really Zorn.
You have to have the tools to succeed. And well Zorn just looks like he has no idea what hes doing
We also witnessed the best pass I've seen Eli throw..
That toss to Smith in the end-zone was perfect..that was something else..and I loved those forward screens to Bradshaw..a beautifully designed and executed play..He feigns staying in to block and motors to the open spot..awesome…KG
He was doing that
early in the season. Then had a drop-off after the KC game / injury. And he has been more accurate than he has ever been the last 4 weeks or so. Agains the eagles he had like 2 maybe 3 passes that were off the mark. The rest all could have been caught. This is clearly Eli’s best season. I think Chris Palmer deserves a lot of credit and the Giants better not let him go anwywhere.
Eli is having a Career Year
When he is healthy he gives us a shot in every game.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 22, 2009 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
Can anyone tell me
when the NFL Network will replay this game? I can’t figure it out from their Web site.
Can you believe it, this is the first Giants game I’ve missed in years, I think I have the flu… and before you ask, NO I won’t get the flu and miss the game again next week.
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Dec 22, 2009 10:21 AM EST reply actions
Who knows if they will replay
they replay the 4 best games of the week.
Man flu
what no TV in your bedroom or you could not get to the sofa – good grief man it was MNF against the Redskins with the season on the line!
Perhaps it was a delayed effect from your tee shirt performance at the Cowboys game two weeks ago!
Don’t forget to start the week 16 pool as we have a game friday night…
by G Fan in England on Dec 22, 2009 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
actually,
I don’t get television, Internet, or telephone at my house. I’m a modern-day Luddite hermit. I go to my in-laws to watch the games. Also they say having TV in the bedroom is bad for your sex life. Pool has been posted, thanks for covering for me with this week’s tally.
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Dec 22, 2009 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
Dallas/NO and Pitt/GB are stone-cold locks. SD/Cin is probably about 98%, especially with the whole Chris Henry thing, but I think the 4th game will likely be Colts/Jags, which has an edge over KC/Cleveland because (1) both teams are relevant, (2) the Colts remained undefeated, and (3) it was initially televised by the NFL Network, so they’ll look to give their production team a little more exposure.
I really hope...
that this motivates the Skins to be tough with Dallas next week. We saw it earlier in the year when we pounded Oakland and AP called out the whole team…they responded by containing the Eagles and beating them. Now, I don’t want anyone calling out the Redskins (we do have to play them twice a year as opposed to the Raiders who we since once every four), but I hope this serves as a wake up call and they come out and pounce on ’boys.
Another interesting note…this year has been interesting in the NFC East…Dallas can’t find a way to beat us, we can’t find a way to beat Philly, and Dallas has Philly’s number…along the same token the Skins at least battle against Philly and Dallas even if they come up short, but we have owned them as of late.
If the skins beat Dallas I will be shocked
by Late for Dinner on Dec 22, 2009 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
I will not be.
they play them tough..
The Giants always beat up the Redskins…
The Redskins like to play Philly and Dallass tough.
"It ain't over till its over"---
3rd down + Steve Smith = 1st Down.
"I just saw Avatar, and Sean Avery was hands down the best character!"
by FreeBradshaw on Dec 22, 2009 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
We Just gave the Cowboys the blue print
Jump on the redskins early, blitz the crap out of Campbell and don’t allow the redskins to hang around. The Redskins have nothing to play for, if they are out of the game by half time, they won’t put up much of a fight.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 22, 2009 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
Skins versus Boys
The Redskins always play the Cowboys well and often times beat them with a lesser squad. The ’skins defense always gives the Cowboys trouble. I would not be shocked at all to see the ’skins win.
Skins; Boy's & Playoffs
Unless the Cowboys crap the bed, I just don’t see it, first of all how are the Skins going to keep Ware and Company off of Campbell? Secondly the Skins defense is not that good. I am not sure whoes secondary is worse theirs or ours. They D line is good, and they have a good Middle linebaker but that’s it.
The Cowboys coming off a victory over the saints (big for the confidence) loose to the Redskins, well any given Sunday but I don’t see it. We are gonna need Philly to beat the Boys and we must win our last two.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 22, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
Look at the last game they played against each other
The Redskins dominated that game @Dallas and were doomed by 2 missed field goals from Suisham that would’ve clinched it. Dallas took the ball after the missed kick and marched down the field for a game winning score in the last 2 mins. This time around the game is in Washington. Sometimes teams just play well against certain teams, and I think thats the case in this rivalry game.
I think Dallas’ win over New Orleans sets them up nicely for a perfect trap game. They are coming off of an emotional win. It is almost impossible to replicate that emtion in back to back weeks, especially when you go from playing an undefeated team to playing a 4-10 team.
I guess we will find out on Sunday night.
Thats what i fear
Giving the Cowboys more film on how to devastate the Skins like we did, then with them having nothing to play for, they’ll just lay down and let the Cowboys win. Thus, winning morally because that would essentially knock us out of the playoffs.
We didn't just beat the Redskins last night we took their Heart
Every time the camaras panned the bench I saw a defeated team. With 2 weeks left in the season, they already got their golf bags ready, I just don’t see the Redskins having a lot of fight left in them, We took all the confidence they built and threw it out the window.
If Dallas jumps on these guys early the game is over.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 22, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
14 games into the season
One game does not determine the blueprint. They will be studying lots of film. But I would say first off they will study the first game between Was and Dal.
The Skins play Dallas tough
They should have beat them earlier this year. Big headlines this week as Shawn Suisham is the reason the Skins faltered against Dallas and NO. Hopefully he can return the favor this week and kick Dallas from that WC spot.
its amazing how easy this game can be
when you get a PASS RUSH, fieldposition AND some imaginative play calling.
by NYer in a strange land on Dec 22, 2009 10:36 AM EST reply actions
Play calling is for naught without execution.
We won because we executed well in all three phases of the game against a weaker opponent.
by Step up and make big plays on Dec 22, 2009 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
Thing we can't forget....
the Redskins ’we’re playing well weren’t they? They were playing very tough, and the Giants would have to be on their “A” game last night.
The Defense very good, Campbell’s playing well, decent run game…just a FG kicker away from a few wins.
I don’t wanna here that the Redskins are bad now, or that they didn’t show up.
That was a reckoning. That was the team I saw in the first 5 weeks.
Now…just gonna need help, or else look like NE of last year…
"It ain't over till its over"---
3rd down + Steve Smith = 1st Down.
"I just saw Avatar, and Sean Avery was hands down the best character!"
Great game!
I went to bed with a huge smile on my face. I don’t know about you guys but I really have a good feeling that Goff is going to be a great player. I think once Sintim is a bit more comfortable, this LB core will be pretty damn good.
Also, I could have sworn that Goff had an INT last night, but he was not credited for one and Aaron Rouse was. Was that Rouse or Goff on the INT does anyone know for sure? If it was Rouse than he sure fooled me and looked very much like a LB on that play.
LET'S GO G-MEN
He's a mechanical engineer.
He’s also the future and present MLB for the NY Football Giants.
"It ain't over till its over"---
3rd down + Steve Smith = 1st Down.
"I just saw Avatar, and Sean Avery was hands down the best character!"
by FreeBradshaw on Dec 22, 2009 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
Let's not get too excited. The Redskins are awful
I was there last night with two other Giants fans and it was awesome. But the only reason the Redskins appeared good the last few weeks is because they had a bunch of 2nd and 3rd stringers playing for jobs and playing way over their heads. This was the real Redskins last night. As far as our D goes, the worry is that the best Redskin out there last night (or looked the best) was Fred Davis (TE, yikes!), which doesn’t bode well for facing our old friends Shianco, Shockey, and Witten down the road somewhere.
Of course, Washington fans have completely gone over the edge. I thought they were going to burn the place to the ground.
I saw this posted on a co-workers down here in DC today...

by Step up and make big plays on Dec 22, 2009 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
I love this one!
I got a Deadskin fan in my office gonna send him this!
by Late for Dinner on Dec 22, 2009 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
wait what?
Oh…so, now that the Giants dominatrixed them…they aren’t that good?
Philly squeeked by them 27-24. Dallas 7-6. THe Saints got lucky cuz a FG kicker missed a kick.
People were picking them to win! The ‘experts’. Zillag. Lotta people were picking them to win.
The Giants beat the hell out of that team.
That’s who the Giants can be. When they are on their entire game..that’s who they can be.
Who would want to play them when they’re going like that?
"It ain't over till its over"---
3rd down + Steve Smith = 1st Down.
"I just saw Avatar, and Sean Avery was hands down the best character!"
by FreeBradshaw on Dec 22, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
Ditka as well as
3 of the other pre-game “analysts” picked the Skins too. I totally agree Free, before the game It’s " the Redskins have been playing great, they almost beat the Saints blah blah blah" and even Eagles and Cowboys fans were predicting a Giants loss. But now it’s “The Redskins suck, the Giants can only beat bottowm-dwellers”. At least be consistent people.
LET'S GO G-MEN
by I_Formation27 on Dec 22, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
Whenever Ditka picks your team your in trouble
by Late for Dinner on Dec 22, 2009 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
He was 13-0 on Monday nights
before the last 2.
I got a little scared when he picked the Redskins….he had good luck.
..But like seemingly all the undefeated/one loss teams not run by a machine (Big Bro), he lost.
"It ain't over till its over"---
3rd down + Steve Smith = 1st Down.
"I just saw Avatar, and Sean Avery was hands down the best character!"
by FreeBradshaw on Dec 22, 2009 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
Yes. The Giants dominated them and the Redskins aren't that good
The Redskins played those games with the Eagles, Cowboys, and Saints close but lost this season to Detroit and KC while beating St. Louis and Tampa Bay by a total of 5 points. You are what you are over the whole course of the season, and over the course of the season, they are lousy.
Didn’t the Giants stop the undefeated Broncos in the late 90s? Didn’t that Giants team stink? Or, should they have won the Super Bowl because they beat the eventual champion? I live in DC and have been stuck watching more Redskins games than I’d like and they stink.
I’m suggesting we temper the optimism, your thoughts are how I felt after the Oakland game, which was another dominating performance against a lousy team. We saw what happened after that.
the Raiders stunk...
yet..the Raiders beat the Philly team the Giants can’t beat right?
I’m as optimistic as I’ve been all year.
Last night was the Giants team I knew was in there all year.
Its just…all I heard was the Redskins are so scary..their record is not who they are..the GIants are in a free-fall…this…that….BULLCRAP.
They didn’t play bad against Dallas, Philly and the Saints did they? They seem to get up for ‘upper echelon’ competition, play better and damn near win those games they aren’t supposed to (and would have if their kicker didn’t stink.
What I don’t understand ‘cut’…is why are the Giants excused from this? How come when they beat the crap out of them..is it..they stink, not…WOW!, the Redskins were playing good football the past few weeks..and got slaughtered.
Before the game…“Redskins scary, can beat anyone if you don’t watch out”.
Post game..Redskins always stunk..they’re 4-10. Call me when the GIants beat someone real".
Oh..believe this..THe GIants are gonna beat someone(s) real. Teams better hope they don’t make the playoffs.
"It ain't over till its over"---
3rd down + Steve Smith = 1st Down.
"I just saw Avatar, and Sean Avery was hands down the best character!"
by FreeBradshaw on Dec 22, 2009 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
Just a second
You are TOTALLY misinterpreting where I’m coming from. I’m just a diehard Giants fan for 30 years, season ticket holder for 15 years who was at the game last night saying this team has already in the past two seasons led us to believe they were on the verge of doing something great, but didn’t, so let’s keep it all in perspective. Also, I in no way put any stock in what so-called “experts” on TV think. They are guessing as much as you or me. I could care less whether they thought the Redskins were going to beat the Giants.
Ok..OK...
hold the optimism..I get it.
All I’m saying is I’m no more or less optimistic then I’ve been all season.
I’m saying the general perception I got, was that the Redskins were good, not as bad as their record.
The Giants made them look that bad…so the fact that some are undercutting this sort of dominating win…is annoying.
The Redskins were playing good football. They damn near won games against supposedly better teams then the Giants.
The Giants killed them…….temper the optimism yes..but let some of it out too!
"It ain't over till its over"---
3rd down + Steve Smith = 1st Down.
"I just saw Avatar, and Sean Avery was hands down the best character!"
by FreeBradshaw on Dec 22, 2009 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
very...very violent...
kidding..but yes, agree.
"It ain't over till its over"---
3rd down + Steve Smith = 1st Down.
"I just saw Avatar, and Sean Avery was hands down the best character!"
by FreeBradshaw on Dec 22, 2009 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
Good Point
One thing this Giant team does well is smash bad teams. They strike early and often and don’t let the bad teams hang around long enough to gain confidence. The Panthers will be more of a challenge.
Let’s rember all we did is stay alive last night, our offense is playing great, let’s see if the defense can do it again.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 22, 2009 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
Gruden
“When the Giants have third down I like to call it third down and steve Smith”. Gruden for president.
LET'S GO G-MEN
Third and Smith
LMAO, Gruden is pretty good
by Late for Dinner on Dec 22, 2009 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
i cracked a smile
I really want Smitty to break 100 this year. Hes deserving of a pro bowl spot.
Screw the eating joke
Haynesworth could have just straight smudged him into the floor. That is a scary big man, even with jacobs as the opponent.
size is not everything
I believe I have linked to the youtube of Keith Hackney vs. Emmanuel Yarborough before … not to mention Gerard Gordeau vs. Teila Tuli … I have never lost a fight to someone bigger than me, but I have to people smaller than me…
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Dec 22, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
Giant Fans don't get the credit they deserve
Funny how Steeler fans and Cowboy fans are always named as rabid fans, but Giant fans travel all over the country too, When we beat the Cowboys in Jerry’s new stadium, I could hear the Giant fans on my TV. And a game in Florida might as well be Giant Stadium South.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 22, 2009 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
offense
what really impressed me about the game was the offense – great protection of Eli, great passing by Eli, nice hands by the receivers, great scamper by Nicks, effective use of screens and the run to offset an aggressive pass rush, the running game set the rhythm and gave us those beautiful, exhausting, clock eating drives. More importantly, this was against Orakpo, Carter, Haynesworth etc. we need this kind of game from the offense to beat Minnesota and to have any chance if we get in the playoffs.
our defense got great pressure on and innumerable hits on Campbell. We looked like the real deal in terms of stopping the run. I was very very happy with our play against various screens and short passing situations, TE receptions over the middle, which can kill you when you get aggressive… that said, their offensive line is awful. And Campbell is not Brees. I do believe that we can play offense against anyone, but the D… we shall see
Agreed ...
the hyper-aggressive D blitz packages worked against a flawed QB, and covered for a bunch of problems in the secondary. Won’t likely work against a quality QB, who will make you pay if you do it too often.
How are Nicks, Ross and Webster?
We need the best players on the field rest of the way, obviously.
The play
that put the nail in Zorn’s coaching coffin…the Swinging Gate. Not once, but twice. I’ll bet his wife was pissed at that call. She probably started packing up the house because she has to know that they’ll be moving this spring.
Zorn is terrible
I know that he was in a no win situation, but honestly I wouldn not want this guy coaching my local HS team. What the hell was he thinking on the Swing Gate play, just kick the field goal and your offense get’s the ball back after the half, he could have been down by 14 early in the 3rd quarter.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 22, 2009 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
now now
Jim Zorn would probably be one of the best 50 high school coaches in America.
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Dec 22, 2009 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
he was thinking they scored a trickster TD on us in week 1 right before halftime
And he felt it was there best oppurtunity to get back in the game and grab the momentum before halftime. When you make gambles like that sometimes you win sometimes you lose. Chalk week 1 up as a win for Zorn on the trick play. Fool us once shame on you. Fool us twice well that didnt happen.
I really don't think Zorn called that play..He isn't allowed to..I think Lewis was upstairs..
Drinking Ripple.
If you saw Coughlin on that play it was hilarious.."Time-out"..Then the fools did it again!!..Hello?
man i really thought that we were going to score down the sideline on that play
It really looked like he had the corner.
Couglin used that formation
on a fake punt his first year here I believe which why he knew instantly what it was. The problem I had with it is they called it again after the timeout. he should have known the jig was when TC called the TO.
One of the clowns in the booth described the Skins playcalling pecking order
Lewis calls the passing play, some other coach calls the running plays and Zorn get’s to call the special teams plays, so yes Swing gate play was an official Jim Zorn brain fart.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 22, 2009 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
are you saying
all he gets to call are punts and field goals, and he messed that up?!
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Dec 22, 2009 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
LMAO ThreeStooges
Zorn does kind of have Moe’s haircut!
by Late for Dinner on Dec 22, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
On the Redskin's post game
Zorn said he made the decision to give it a second try because they thought their play was so tricky that the Giants hadn’t made the right adjustments.
Up to that point in his tenure, I thought he was getting a bad rap, but that decision changed my whole view of him. Unless, he’s some kind of evil genius in the vein of Jessica Simpson (possibly, just acting dumb to get more TV exposure — See “chicken of the sea” comment) and just trying to get fired.
The Giants may have shown the blueprint...
yet, they’ve been showing the blueprint the past 3 years they’ve played the Redskins(or whatever their win streak is against them..)
The Cowboys and Eagles have trouble with them.
There is no blueprint for the Pies to beat them.
"It ain't over till its over"---
3rd down + Steve Smith = 1st Down.
"I just saw Avatar, and Sean Avery was hands down the best character!"
Happily put this victory in the bank, but
Giants should not get overconfident. Dallas only team that they’ve beaten with a winning record. Defense has a lot to make up for. Last night’s game wasn’t nearly enough. “Not nearly enough”. Anyway, thanks Eli. Only reason this team is still in running is because of you.
Agreed - Campbell is not a test for the secondary
Not trying to spit on the secondary but it was obvious Campbell reverted back to being ….Jason Campbell!
When his backup came in (and a guy that can acturally read a defense) he moved the ball quickly downfield.
I think we’ll beat Carolina and Minnesota is a real test. If we beat them then we deserve to get in (and I think we would play Minnesota right away or Philly) – if we lose then we don’t deserve it as we can’t defend the pass and no need to burn some spots in the draft for a first round loss. We know we need some help at SS and players to start to backfill the OL.
Finally - WR's that get some yards after the catch
Is it me or does Eli finally have some WR’s that can get yards after the catch? YAC!!
For so long it seemed that whenever they caught the ball – that is where they went down. That is hard on a QB.
Nicks has some great moves after the catch and some decent speed to break some good runs. I think if we can coddle Manningham a little then he’ll only get better.
Just wanted to throw that out there because it’s so nice to see some WR’s breaking some runs and not just falling down. btw – nothing against Steve Smith b/c he’s a great posssession receiever and finds those holes in the zone like Jerry Rice.
its even Steve Smith now...
He was public enemy #1 in the catch and fall WR, but he’s figured out that you don’t have to duck and hide on every catch.
"It ain't over till its over"---
3rd down + Steve Smith = 1st Down.
"I just saw Avatar, and Sean Avery was hands down the best character!"
by FreeBradshaw on Dec 22, 2009 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
It looks like they solved Mario's outside route problems..
They didn’t let him run any..

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