'Favre-troversy' brewing

by Ed Valentine on Dec 21, 2009 2:03 PM EST in News Comment 26 comments

Need something to chat about while we wait for tonight's kickoff? How about the brewing 'Favre-troversy' in Minnesota.

The team was listless Sunday, losing 26-7 to a lousy Carolina club. It’s now 11-3 on the season, but 1-2 on the month. And, in the confrontation that will send the frozen Upper Midwest into a virtual meltdown, coach Brad Childress tried to bench [Brett] Favre in third quarter only to have the quarterback somehow overrule him.

"Yeah, there was a heated discussion, I guess you would call it," Favre told reporters afterwards. "We were up 7-6 at the time. No secret, I was getting hit a little bit. I felt the pressure on a lot of plays. We had seven points. So I think everyone in the building was like, ‘They’re not moving the ball, they’re not getting points.’ Brad wanted to go in a different direction and I wanted to stay in the game."

Favre won that test of wills, which, may not be taken well within the Vikings locker room. Since when does the player get to tell the coach to shove it? Actually, it happens more than you think, which doesn’t mean it isn’t a significant sign about who’s in charge of whom.

If we don't get another great season-saving run by our Giants, at least maybe we will get to watch Favre, his ego and his aging arm have another meltdown. That would be some consolation.

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Well, you could question what Childress was thinking about

First, it is a contact sport. Second, the Vikings were winning by ONE, point at the time. Third, with the Saints losing, why wouldn’t you WANT, to keep the better QB in who gives you the better chance to TRY, and win. And lastly, to win period, for a chance at homefield advantage, unless that doesn’t concern them?

For all of Favre’s waffling, i really don’t blame him for not wanting to come out with what could be on the line.

by Hootman on Dec 21, 2009 2:24 PM EST reply actions

because

the vikes had already clinched a playoff berth. maybe childress wasn’t comfortable risking his 40 year old quarterback who’s getting creamed, and having to go into the playoffs with T-Jack.

by cntrlalt on Dec 21, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions

And maybe Childress thought the other guy

gave them a better chance to win.

"We were very much aware of that. There was a lot of phone call-type things going on in the room." -- Tom Coughlin

by Mr. Met on Dec 21, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions

very possibly

either way, it doesn’t look good for childress…who’s been accused of poorly managing the locker room before.

after everything he pulled with his quarterbacks this season i’m amazed he got that extension, if the season tanks that locker room will be lost.

by cntrlalt on Dec 21, 2009 3:27 PM EST up reply actions

Ah, that would be Matt Moore? lol

by Hootman on Dec 21, 2009 3:29 PM EST up reply actions

Amen to that, Ed.

If we can’t watch the Giants in the playoffs, at least we can root against Favre, the Eagles, and the Cowboys.

by ggggmen08 on Dec 21, 2009 2:29 PM EST reply actions

Since when did we become Jet fans?

Besides we beat Farve in Green Bay in the playoffs. I won’t feel any consolation if the Vikes fall flat.

by Major on Dec 21, 2009 5:10 PM EST up reply actions

What's bothersome if you're a Vikes fan

is that the Vikes were ahead, F won the argument, stayed in, and they wound up getting their ass kicked. Is the rest of the team trying to tell the world something?

by blue gonz on Dec 21, 2009 2:41 PM EST reply actions

F Farve.

"It ain't over till its over"---

3rd down + Steve Smith = 1st Down.

"I just saw Avatar, and Sean Avery was hands down the best character!"

by FreeBradshaw on Dec 21, 2009 2:53 PM EST reply actions 1 recs

AMEN ED

Would LOVE to watch Favre crash and burn at the end of the year like he always does. The fact that he started off so well this year makes the crash that much better.

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!

by Joe_D on Dec 21, 2009 2:53 PM EST reply actions

the Giants need to make the playoffs

if only so that Corey Webster has a second chance to end Favre’s career with a pick

"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09

by cjmulrain on Dec 21, 2009 2:54 PM EST reply actions

+1

ha, seriously — favre’s comeback ruined what would have been a trivia question for the ages (and one that we’d never forget the answer to)

by tulls200 on Dec 21, 2009 3:36 PM EST up reply actions

+1 x 2

by YankeeDudeL on Dec 21, 2009 3:38 PM EST reply actions

Forget about Favre..Childress should have been thinking about finding somebody who could block Julious Peppers..

by Bobbiblue on Dec 21, 2009 4:22 PM EST reply actions

..and somebody that could cover Smith..and Who's that other QB?..Jake something?

by Bobbiblue on Dec 21, 2009 4:26 PM EST reply actions

I don't hate favre

In fact, I still like him as a QB
but if it means we’ll make the playoffs easier, BURN FAVRE BURN

Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.

When there's a WILL there's a WAY

by Willgfass on Dec 21, 2009 4:58 PM EST reply actions

Childress had the right idea

Childress realizes that his team cant go too deep in the playoffs with a tired and beat up 40 year old QB. It was as good a time as any to bench Favre. Peppers was on a rampage and wasn’t going to be contained and TJax may have been mobile enough to make some plays at that point. The rest wouldnt have hurt him either.
I’ve always thought that Favre for all his dynamism is not a team player and it will lead to an early exit for the Minnies.

by gr8kicks on Dec 21, 2009 5:00 PM EST reply actions

it's probably overblown

You play to win the game!

by Simms-McConkey on Dec 21, 2009 5:49 PM EST reply actions

Favre

The thing that isn’t overblown, though, is that NFL reporters I have read/listened to today have said there is a power struggle for control between Favre and Childress. The Vikes should have known this is what they signed up for w/Favre.

by Ed Valentine on Dec 21, 2009 6:39 PM EST up reply actions

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I’d expect something like this last year with Mangini

But Childress?
He pampered, and did everything short of kissed Favre’s ass to get him out of retirement.

I really think this is overblown, but we’ll see

Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.

When there's a WILL there's a WAY

by Willgfass on Dec 21, 2009 6:53 PM EST up reply actions

Favre didn't have a bad night..they just couldn't block Peppers..You'd have to be an idiot to

take a QB out who’s winning 7-6..Childress was worried about the beating he was taking all night, and he being one of the ultimate competitors..didn’t appreciate it..There is nothing wrong with his arm…Any QB needs a line that can at least give you 5 seconds to throw..Damn they weren’t even cracking open a small hole for Petersen..The Vikings O-line stunk..I’m surprised Favre didn’t say something to those inept fools..I’d have been walking up and down the bench yelling at them..That idiot what’s his name, Dixon?..Hicks?..whoever couldn’t block a tackle dummy. 17 of 27 for 224 isn’t a bad night.

by Bobbiblue on Dec 21, 2009 8:08 PM EST up reply actions

I agree Bobbi

Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.

When there's a WILL there's a WAY

by Willgfass on Dec 21, 2009 8:39 PM EST up reply actions

Interesting take by Trent Dilfer

after the Giants win re the Favre Childress situation. His claim is that since the SF game Favre has gained more contol of the O by changing plays at the line, etc. Dilfer wants to regain control, thus the argument. Here’s the interesting Part: according to Dilfer, the team backs Favre not the coach. Take it for what its worth.

by blue gonz on Dec 22, 2009 12:18 AM EST up reply actions

The dumbest question ever asked

Over at the National Football Post Mike Lombardi asks if Brad Childress has a double standard for Favre.

Well DUH! Of course he does! That’s the most asinine question I’ve ever heard.

Favre has been treated like royalty for his entire career. I can’t think of another player that has been given a pass by everyone: fans, media, other football players like Favre has.

by John W on Dec 21, 2009 6:39 PM EST reply actions

LT?

Certainly by Tuna, and I don’t blame him. LT is one of the top five players of all time. Favre will be in the HOF, but he’s not at the level of LT. Few are

by blue gonz on Dec 21, 2009 7:52 PM EST reply actions