New York Giants Notebook: 12.17.09
Good Morning Giants fans, here are some of the stories making the rounds in the world of the indefensible (or is it un-defensible?) New York Giants:
- The Giants are hanging their hats on one thing right now: No matter how bad things seem, it's worse for the Cowboys. I would not be so fast to agree, not until the Giants defense stops someone, anyone.
- Shaun O'Hara and Trent Cole were both fined $15K for their fight in Sunday night's game.
- The Redskins say they are worried about themselves, not playing spoiler for the Giants. If you believe this, then I would like to advocate C.C. Brown for starting safety in the Pro Bowl. I'm sure the Redskins would just love to help the Giants screw up their season.
- Sort of Giants-related, Matt Simms, son of Phil, has signed a letter of intent to play at Tennessee.
- Former Giant TE Howard Cross was voted into the Alabama Sports Hall of Fame. Nice to see Howard getting recognized, he is one of the most underrated players to ever put on a Giants uniform.
In a conference call with the Washington media yesterday, Justin Tuck was asked if this is a must-win for the Giants: (click link for full transcript)
I think so. You never want to put that pressure on yourself especially when they say we can still make the playoffs even if we don't win all three of these. For me personally, I think that we are because of the fact that we haven't played great ball. Even if we do make the playoffs, you don't want to go into the playoffs limping. You want to go in with the confidence, knowing that you kind of righted the ship and are playing your best ball at that point in time. I think for us it's important to win these next three.
Tom Coughlin talked about his team's emotional state: (click link for full transcript)
Well, we have been excited about playing our divisional games. It has been one game after another. We had a nice win against Dallas. We came up short the other night in a high-scoring affair. I think our guys will be right back on the mark. You come together on Monday and it is a sad day. Everybody is disappointed. Everybody wants to win. Everybody does everything they think they can. It doesn't mean that you always play as well as you are capable of playing. We try to get their dabbers back up and get them refocused and knowing full well that the season gets shorter and shorter and more meaningful and more meaningful. I think our leadership will be strong. I think our guys will come back and we will have a nice week of practice. We will be excited to go down to Washington.
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There’s something wrong with the fines the NFL doles out. There’s no consistency. 15k for that ‘fight’? While Fatso Adams was fined less than that in each incident when he was fined 3 straight weeks to open the season.
Over at Bleeding Green
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2008/10/10/632469/desean-jackson-quintin-dem
Another joke. $10k fine for that? Again, the league fined Adams less for tripping and injuring a player. An injury that probably still has lingering affects
I'll be shocked--shocked if
one BBVer disagrees
One question I get sick of....
“Is this a must win game?” Shouldn’t teams consider all games “must wins” or do you look at the schedule and pick out the games that are must win. What a dumb ass question. Tuck should have responded “No, this is not a must win. We can afford to lose a couple more games. We’re only a game behind Dallas with three to go, so no, this is not a must win.” Interview over!
Tuck
Seriously, how the f*ck should he answer such a ridiculous question? That’s another reason I love Parcells. He had no problem ripping into the media.
It's the dumbest question out there.
I’ll bet his next question was “Do you think your team will have to score more points than the Redskins to win the game?”
I didn't know Phil had another rugrat
You know whats funny, given Phil had a decent career, you have to wonder why his kids went or will have gone to big schools in Texas and now Tennessee?
What did Morehead St. (wherever that is) have over these schools? lol
Chris was a highly recruited QB at a power house HS program
I live up near Simms and Don Bosco travels around the country to play nationaly ranked HS programs, he was a very good HS QB so I think that has more to do with where he went.
They just got to keep Chris away from the Bong!
by Late for Dinner on Dec 17, 2009 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
I think his middle son
went to Louisville too? I think he flopped, but it was more cuz of the mess at Louisville.
I think this youngest son is more like the youngest Clausen. Matt Simms is gonna be real good.
"It ain't over till its over"---
3rd down + Steve Smith = 1st Down.
by FreeBradshaw on Dec 17, 2009 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
Glad to help you with that, Hoot.
Morhead is in Morehead, in the foothills of Daniel Boone County, Kentucky, with regional campuses in places like Ashland, Jackson, Maysville, Prestonburg, Dismal Seepage, Pratsfallsville and East Skunk Hollow. My understanding is that a sizeable portion of the student population has one leg shorter than the other, and that others have one leg longer than the other. This is because so many come from hillside farms where such a genetic aberration is an advantage rather than a handicap. The federal government provides generous subsidies to the university to fund special programs for that portion of these special students who after graduation opt to remain in the foothills or move on to the mountains or river towns rather than returning to their farms. Because so significant a portion of the student body enjoys the advantages of “one leg shorter/longer syndrome,” the “Hoppers” (the beloved nickname of all the University teams) has rarely fielded top notch athletic squadss, although Arthur “Hopalong” Boone ( a direct descendant of Daniel) did win four consecutive Olympic gold medals in the Hop Skip and Jump competitions in the early part of the twentieth century. Should you require further info, I suggest you contact the University PR office directly
Nice, Gonz
The only thing factional here is Kentucky. You can’t BS a BS’er!
Dismal Seepage, East Skunk Hollow, shorter/longer leg syndromes etc… lol
Dismal Seepage, I think I dated her in high school
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Dec 17, 2009 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
I was just going to lament the fact
that I try to help you out and what do i get?— an accusation of creating factionalism on BBV.
BTW, Morehead is in Daniel Boone County. And shorter/longer leg syndrome would be a logical evolutionary development for those who live on hillsides. I have a house on the shale cliffs of Keuka Lake and have often wished for temporary possession of the syndrome to make landscaping the property a lot easier. I can’t even mow the lawn w/o taking at least one header.
I hope the other OLs
kick in for O’Hara. That’s some ol’ bullshit. Cole deserved a much bigger fine.
I left my swagger in my other pants.
Not being in the States
Dismal Seepage, Pratsfallsville and East Skunk Hollow
Are those place names for real ?
He was like a god walking amongst mere mortals. He had a voice that could make a wolverine purr and suits so fine they made Sinatra look like a hobo.
Those kinds of names are quite common in Eastern Kentucky.
By far the most elegant dining establishment in Morehad is the Gag and Heave.
Is Tuck an 'official' spokesperson for the team?
He seems to get a lot of airtime. Is it just that he is good with the media, or is a part of his role?
He was like a god walking amongst mere mortals. He had a voice that could make a wolverine purr and suits so fine they made Sinatra look like a hobo.
He seems to have replaced Stray as an unofficial spokesperson
Some of the reasons (speculative):
1.He’s the player on the team with the most likelihood of becoming a perennial All-Pro (won’t happen, what with the injuries, etc.)
2. His personality, which seems to be outgoing (not to the degree Stray was.) Like Stray, he’s probably garralous by nature as well.
3. He’s recognized by the media as well-respected by the his teammates.
Okay, Johannus, I relent
Those place names are as factual as the names of those great Chinese-American tailbacks, Bucky Wing and Johnny Chung.
in/undefensible
Jim, I think the most apt term right now would be “defenseless”
You play to win the game!
Worse for the Cowboys!?
I think someone better explain to the Giants how the NFL standings work. When you have less wins than a team in your division…um…it’s not worse for them.

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