New York Giants notes: Aaron Rouse may have found a home
Here is some Friday afternoon reading material for you, New York Giants fans.
Aaron Rouse, acquired to take Kenny Phillips' roster spot after being let go by Green Bay earlier this season, has played exceptionally well the past couple of weeks. He even earned a game ball last week, with 12 tackles (10 solo) and his first career sack.
"He has been a big time pleasant guy for us in the last couple of weeks," defensive coordinator Bill Sheridan said. "He got a game ball the other day … and it was well-deserved. He is playing with a lot of confidence now that he is playing for a couple weeks. He is much more comfortable with the defensive calls and he plays super aggressive. He has a steady confidence about him, he tries to play physical. He made about a dozen tackles the other day and it looks like it, when you are on the sidelines watching it, he looks like he is in on a bunch of tackles. He has done an excellent job."
Rouse admits he endured an adjustment period, because changing teams and homes on the fly is difficult.
"As a young player, it is," Rouse said. "I had never experienced it; my first time was going from Green Bay to the Giants in the middle of the season. That was hard, but at the same time I have a great support system - my mom and my godfather were there. Basically, I know that being the good player that I am that I was optimistic about everything and never got down and was just waiting for the opportunity to play for another team. Mr. Reese (Jerry, the general manager) brought me in here and I am thankful for that and am just trying to make the best of this opportunity.
"This is my third year in the league, so anytime you go from a different team you try to think about things that have happened. But my main focus was to be optimistic. I know I am a good player, I know I am going to be a great player one day and when things happen you keep your head up and go forward."
My take: A couple of good games does not make a career. Rouse is just 25, though, and if he keeps playing as well as he has the past few weeks New York might just become a long-term home.
You would think Tom Coughlin has been reading Big Blue View when you look at his assessment of the key to beating Philadelphia Sunday.
"We have to try to keep them from making the big plays. It starts with us stopping the run. They ran the ball on us over there. They have made big plays. So we have to stop the run and try to prevent the big plays."
We agree, Tom. We agree.
Sheridan also knows stopping the big play is priority one Sunday.
"They have had their most success on big plays so that will be a huge emphasis for us. If we can just hang in there and keep the ball in front of us, we will have a chance to be competitive in the game. They get big plays, especially if they get them early, it is a big momentum swing for them."
We have talked a ton about the Giants seeming lack of use of tight end Kevin Boss. A few weeks ago, you might recall, I even penned an open letter to the Giants on Boss' behalf. Turns out offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride DOES know who Boss is. He even seems to like the guy.
Check out this exchange Thursday with reporters.
Q: Do you think as the weather changes that Kevin Boss – this time of year – needs to be more of a target?
A: I laugh sometimes when I hear that stuff. All it is is whoever gets open based on his scheme and what have you. What a lot of guys don’t realize is that the one that we threw deep down the field – that really was the primary guy was Boss on the ….route. He felt that he had a touchdown to Steve so he threw it there. The touchdown to Brandon Jacobs – that was designed to go to Kevin Boss. But they were so committed to knocking him, riding him in – that is what opened up, Brandon. So all I care is that when he has a chance to get open, that he does and he catches the ball. You know he is going to catch the ball. He has terrific hands. He has a great radius. His big thing is getting off the jams and stuff like that. And they made a commitment to bang on him a little bit. So we were able to capitalize on it on that one play for a big play, but a couple of other plays that were designed to go him – he has to do a better job of getting off being banged around. Because they know he is a big target; he is a good player. So they commit --- that is the way to slow him down and so that is the area that he knows that if he can get done. It is hard to run with him. He is a big, long-legged guy once he gets going.
Who knew? Gilbride does understand that the tight end is an eligible receiver.
On the injury front, Chris Snee's status remains uncertain.
Finally, a few nuggets about last week's victory over Dallas from Pro Football Focus.
- Your eyes told you Kevin Boothe played pretty well after Snee went out with a knee injury. They did not deceive. Boothe was +1.2 in PFF's rating system. That, by the way, was the best overall rating of any offensive player.
- Among the defenders, Rouse had a team-best +2.3 rating.
- Mathias Kiwanuka played 80 of 82 snaps while starting in place of Osi Umenyiora. Kiwi lined up at defensive end, defensive tackle, outside linebacker and even middle linebacker. The Giants used an 'Amoeba' defense with a lot of guys standing up and moving around pre-snap. I loved it, and I want to see more of it.
- Speaking of Osi, it appears he is now a pass-rush specialist. Thirty-three of the 38 snaps he played were passes.
- Justin Tuck lined up at defensive tackle 30 times against the Cowboys. To protect his injured shoulder that is something Tuck has done little of this season.
(E-mail Ed at bigblueview@gmail.com)
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still think we need to find a legit starting safety
We have a johnson and rouse who are solid but not spectacular. We need to get someone back there that people fear. We have that with Kenny, but who knows if he can put together a full season.
LMAO....
hey guys, let’s all give KG a break….he drew up 2 whole plays for Boss last week!!!
but in regards to Rouse…i like him. How amazing it is that he’s played well when ask him to play SS … i mean for a guy who had trouble in coverage and took bad angles on the ball, why wouldn’t he excel playing FS?!?!
also, how does tuck playing DT protect his shoulder?
"If you don't know what you're doing... just rush the quarterback" - LT
Tuck
It doesn’t. I am saying they have protected his shoulder (left) by NOT putting him there. At DE, most of the hits he takes are on the right side.
by Ed Valentine on Dec 11, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
Here's what burns my a$$
yet again Fozelle Adams gets fined and avoids a suspension. My guess is the NFL doesn’t want to suspend Adams this late in the season with the Cowboys fighting for a playoff spot. What about the Giants and Tuck? Tuck was reduced to 50-75% effectiveness by Adam’s trip in week 2.
I would like to see more of the same blend of defense Sunday
Rouse played a very good game, they all did..If they play like that this week, they be just fine..Mc Nabb is not as good as Romo moving around in the pocket, so it could very well be a tough day for him..I didn’t see Tuck line up at DT..Maybe I’m going blind..and Y’all my think me crazy (if you don’t already)..but I’d like to see our boy Brown in there on blitz packages..I can understand some of what KG is saying about Boss, but I don’t think they are using him enough..Looks to me like he has been banged up, versus getting banged up.
brown
is a devastating hitter, i’d love to see some of those old gibril wilson style blitzes from him.
I agree with you both on CC.
Rouse is quite q hitter, too.
yea
I have no problem with CC in on running downs – he’s actually a really good run stopper. It almost makes you wonder if he could be a linebacker. He’d be undersized, but he’s really not that much smaller than Antonio Pierce.
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
In theory
moving CC to LB sounds like a good idea. In reality it’ll never happen especially during the season. It would be a major task to learn a new position. Besides AP has 30 pounds on CC. Does anyone recall any LB that were converted safeties? I can’t think of one.
Brad Van Pelt (another great Giant who should be in the HOF)
went from DB to OLB
#10
Another great Giants linebacker. Van Pelt was allowed to wear #10 because he was the backup kicker his rookie season.
has anyone seen the 5-1-5 yet?
seriously. i’m not trying to poke at BS this time, but i have seen no parts of this vaunted new D that we were promised pre season. Is it too much to see a line of tuck, osi, canty, kiwi, and sintim, who could flex out as a linebacker; line up aaron rouse as the MLB, and have CW, TT, MJ, AR, and B.Johnson or KD in the secondary. with Sintim and Rouse there, you have so many options b/t the two. rush sintim/drop him back; have Rouse as a speedy MLB with the ability to rush; drop him back and have in essence 6 DBs as opposed to a true backer. or put Boley in there instead. replace Sintim with Cofield, and have 5 true lineman. play an amoeba 5-1-5.
am i crazy? wouldn’t that open up alot of opp. for the D to confuse offenses? especially since it’s something we haven’t done up til this point. there is no film on it.
Have not seen it
I only saw them practice it once in camp. I think it went by the boards with all the d line injuries they have had.
by Ed Valentine on Dec 11, 2009 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
well the D-line is about as injury free as it's gonna be
Blow the dust off that page on the playbook.
hell yeah
might as well try something to deceive the offense.
"If you don't know what you're doing... just rush the quarterback" - LT
Saving it for the playoffs!!!
BRING THE AMOEBA!!!!
by Last year in Sec 127 on Dec 11, 2009 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
they did it twice last week...
they ain’t gonna do anything if they don’t continue to mix stuff up like that.
They’ll be saving it for September 2010…..
"It ain't over till its over"---
How come no one covers Steve Smith?
by FreeBradshaw on Dec 11, 2009 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
I don't see it happening this year..but I like
the defense they came in with against Dallas..Except for letting Romo light the sky up for 392 yards..The personell we thought was there for it were either injured or not playing like we thought they were going to..Again I really like what I saw them feed the Cowboys.
first game we lit you up on the ground
second game in the air…..guess what we still lost cause we became one dimensional. The giants did what they had to do to win. They made us not a very complete team on offense.
"When people talk about Super Bowl dynasties they mention the 1970's Steelers, 1980's 49ers, 1990's Cowboys and the current New England Patriots, but nobody has dominated the Super Bowl like Anheuser-Busch. In recent years, Budweiser has been the MVP of Super Bowl advertising -- making another company the favorite to win the Ad Meter poll was never an option."
Simon Noble
this
I don’t think it was necessarily game planned that they would give up 392 yards through the air, but I do think the strategy was to shut down the run and make Romo beat them. It worked.
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
You guys sure did..but the balanced attack was missing..
I’m a firm believer in stopping the run first..If you take that away the ballgame is over..although I wasn’t pleased seeing us give up 392 yards in the air..Romo, Witten, Williams, and Austin played their hearts out..They need to do the same this week, and the running attack needs to be there..and the defense better show up because you need to keep Rivers and Co. off the field…The running game and defense were the weak links last week.
we gave up 33 first time and 31
this time…..no defense equals no wins…….your defense can play suspect but they have to make some crucial stops. Your team did that in both games via turnovers. Both our teams gave up yards but that right there put the Giants over the top.
"When people talk about Super Bowl dynasties they mention the 1970's Steelers, 1980's 49ers, 1990's Cowboys and the current New England Patriots, but nobody has dominated the Super Bowl like Anheuser-Busch. In recent years, Budweiser has been the MVP of Super Bowl advertising -- making another company the favorite to win the Ad Meter poll was never an option."
Simon Noble
So....
what do the giants do if M. Johnson can play this weekend?
I’d rather see Rouse start at SS and Ross start at FS.
thoughts?
"If you don't know what you're doing... just rush the quarterback" - LT
I agree.
The infusion of the young guys has really helped the team a lot. I’d like to see more of them get playing. Their energy and enthusiasm is infectious.
Well..finally for the first time this season..
We have some positive dilemnas they need to figure out..Prior to that it was plug and hope football..
I heard Rouse name called alot on Sunday
he was very active and that spells good things.
"When people talk about Super Bowl dynasties they mention the 1970's Steelers, 1980's 49ers, 1990's Cowboys and the current New England Patriots, but nobody has dominated the Super Bowl like Anheuser-Busch. In recent years, Budweiser has been the MVP of Super Bowl advertising -- making another company the favorite to win the Ad Meter poll was never an option."
Simon Noble
Good for Rouse --
… now make it good for the fans, Aaron. That said: question: has Sheridan, or anyone, explained why D-Linemen like Osi continually end up in positions best played by linebackers and DBs? Meaning, why ARE they dropping back into coverage. They are not good at it, big plays occur against them when they do, and it isn’t helping the pass rush. So… why? Anyone?
That's a rhetorical question, right ?
The thing that gets me is the DE’s that drop back on a “zone” blitz look like they’re in “man” coverage with their back to the QB. Got me what that strategy is all about.
Just thinking about it
Let’s assume that they are in zone, any zone on the field, and the first one that comes into it, they automatically go man with them? A lack of discipline? But i do know what you mean, it does seem like they are trailing a lot of players, like they were playing man!
I pretty sure the reasoning
is that they zone blitz with the LB in that area to get a different look.
That different look thing is something that a lot of us on BBV have been whining for him to do..yet, he’s been doing it. It works sometimes…it doesn’t others (and we usually notice the not working.
I’d rather them go more ‘conventional’ then this, or at least try to disguise it a bit more….like, the amoeba look for example.
If Osi’s in coverage after they give the amoeba look…..I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that.
When he drops into coverage after being in the down stance…that’s no good.
"It ain't over till its over"---
How come no one covers Steve Smith?
by FreeBradshaw on Dec 11, 2009 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
I don't mind the down lineman ...
dropping back in coverage on a “zone blitz” (it actually can sell the conventional defense look better).
But … once they do drop, have them just cover a “zone” (hence the name), usually the flat on that side (to guard against screens and swing passes that way), and don’t have them trying to run deep down field in man coverage. That is something they are not equipped to do.
Right...
….I only remember Tuck, Tollefson, and Osi in coverage 1x a piece. It is nerve racking every time I see it. We need to do something about the coverage in the middle of the field. I can handle them on Weaver and Celek. I’m waiting to see one of our ends moving at a good clip and catching one of their wideouts coming across the middle. I feel a HUGE hit coming from our D this Sunday night. FUMBLE!!!!
by Last year in Sec 127 on Dec 11, 2009 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
OVERLOAD
I have no idea why we don’t do more overload blitzes. Last Sunday, the play where Sintim came unblocked and sacked Romo was exactly that. Against someone like Peyton or Warner, they’d be smart enough to maybe see and an audible a run the opposite way, but punks like Romo and McNabb can be worked over nicely.
Boss...
my last comment on Boss for the day…
If KG “claims” he’s having trouble getting off the line….why don’t we put him in motion more often to try to help him out?
i mean, he’s a huge target with great hands …. can’t we try to explore other options before we just throw our hands up in the air and claim that he can’t get open?
"If you don't know what you're doing... just rush the quarterback" - LT
or even line him up in the slot
like the Chargers do with Antonio Gates. I know Boss isn’t Gates, but once or twice a game it might be a nice little change of pace.
Or, hell, line him up in the backfield – I know the Giants don’t like running unconventional formations (which drives me crazy, b/c their defense has been innovative many times in the past), but look at how perfectly that play worked for the Cowboys when they had Barber at fullback, Austin at tailback, faked to both of them, and then hit the wide open receiver (I think Roy Williams) in the end zone. Would love to see the Giants try something a little different like that once in a while.
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
exactly...
You know, Sheridan really showed me something by using the “amoeba” defense….he didn’t invent it. He saw it used against us and thought to himself…“hey, we can do that”.
wish KG could do the same.
"If you don't know what you're doing... just rush the quarterback" - LT
Wouldn't it be nice ...
if our vaunted coaching staff could actually come up with an original wrinkle … instead of copying what is out there ? (or at least copy the most recent cutting edge stuff)
the NFL is a copycat league
The steelers (i think) used the ameoba alot (I think they called it the voodoo or something, so it may have been the saints)
If we still stuff that works, I’m ok with it.
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
"Osi is probably one of our worst db's but he did alright there"
Oh, i'm sure it was the ameoba
Which i actually didn’t know it was a name for a certain D/alignment (feeling embarassed). But it was earlier this year when Pit. played Min. (i seen a good portion of that game) and they had like two down linemen and a bunch’ve guy’s running around pre-snap and coming from all angles. Though some of it was bluffing, it was well designed and executed.
I remember saying to myself, why can’t the Giants do that?
I do it too
I’ll watch other teams blitz or run unique type plays. I’ll often wonder. Why can’t the Giants do that? Often it’s not due to lack of talent but more a lack of imagination by our coaching staff. Damn! I’ll settle for what seems the obvious. Let’s throw to the TE 6-8 times a game. Boss has 27 receptions in 11 games. Witten had 14 in one game last week. More than 1/2 of Boss’ season total.
That play to Roy Williams ...
was extremely creative. I love plays where you actually try and influence where the defense will go, and then run/throw the other way. Would love to see more true innovation on O.
The double fake was awesome..Romo did an extremely fine job with that..As I said earlier I hope KG took good notes
He frooze the entire defense on that play.
Boss
I think we all have to be realistic. Last week against Dallas someone needed to help Diehl handle DeMarcus Ware. The guy who needs to do that is the tight end. Ideally, you know KG doesn’t want Boss stuck as a blocker in passing downs. Sometimes it is going to happen, though.
by Ed Valentine on Dec 11, 2009 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
hey man....
its all good.
Being in second place ain’t bad. Hell, us Giants fans like it better when you guys are in second (as long as we’re in first….)
"It ain't over till its over"---
How come no one covers Steve Smith?
by FreeBradshaw on Dec 11, 2009 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
haha
we love you too Joe D
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
Hey G Fans
this is my first time blogging,but i would like to say i read this blog everyday like its the bible,
and look foward to commenting and debating some heated Giant topics
anyway cant wait till sunday baby
P.S. how about some Ramses in the “Green Zone” seeing how well the rest of the rooks are performing
by C I True Wreckin Blue on Dec 11, 2009 6:15 PM EST reply actions
Hey C I Welcome aboard!
I’d like to see Barden also..I guess they can’t find cleats big enough to fit him..I gave up on that cute TC referral to the “Green Zone” until they consistently show us they don’t park at the red light.
Wow, I feel vindicated reading these transcripts...
I perk up any time I hear football minds mutter the trite aphorism, “big plays.” :)
Among some of my other favorites, which were also considered as potential logins, are “football move,” and “horse collar.”
by Step up and make big plays on Dec 11, 2009 6:16 PM EST reply actions
McNabb can throw for 500....
McCoy can run for 250…
but as long as the Giants make more big plays on O and D (and those = more points)…..that’s about as irrelevant as the New Jersey Nets.
"It ain't over till its over"---
How come no one covers Steve Smith?
by FreeBradshaw on Dec 11, 2009 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
Boss and the Defense
I think in the next few weeks, you are going to see a huge improvement from Kevin Boss and the defense. Boss was forgotten for much of the beginning of last season. Everyone kept asking when he was going to start getting his catches and low and behold, he ended leading the team in TDs. Boss will be facing sturdy competition these last few weeks, but for some reason he gets better as the year goes forward. I think the Philli game will be a season breakout for him. I want to say he’ll go for 75 and a score…mark it down.
The defense is another story. I hate to blame Bill Sheridan for the defenses short comings. After a strong start against mostly bad teams (the Cowboy game the lone exception) we saw that the injuries have mounted and that the depth wasn’t what we thought it was. Everyone is starting to get healthy now, and Aaron Rouse is proving to be a wonderful midseason pick up. Canty was blasting the line and Aaron Ross seemed to be making more plays than I can recall. Both were hurt early on. I would never call for a shut out in a division game, but I am thinking that a game where they only gave up 17 points is very much in reason. The winds are blowing in NJ, and I would be cautious if I was McNabb and the passing game.
by www.sportsradiony.com on Dec 11, 2009 6:26 PM EST reply actions
You might be right
If its windy Jackson won’t be catching 50 yard bombs, but I think all giants fans overrate Boss. He isn’t having much production because he just can’t get open. Now, we all know that Eli and Killdrive hate passing it to the TE and all but I don’t think that even if he was playing with a OC and QB that loved their TE he would ever be a guy that catches more than 40-50 balls per year. He is just too big to be able to make good cuts and get separation from the more agile Linebackers that are matched up against him
by mclaren_is_the_best on Dec 11, 2009 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
I have to disagree with this one..
Kevin Boss is extremely athletic for a guy who’s 6’7" …He has great hands and is very agile..He could have played basketball..We have also seen him after a catch look as though he was running the ‘high hurdles’..and he always lowers the boom on tacklers..He will be a very key guy this week in the windy and cold conditions..your not going to see alot of long throws..It is December, running will be key also..It always is this time of year.

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