If Kirk Morrison is not re-signed I think they gotta pool some cash together and throw it at him. He’s the type of MLB, big, fast, tough, nasty…and a veteran (rookie is nice…but you never know with a rook)

You never know what the Raiders will do. Hopefully undead AL forgets about Morrison and franchises Lechler again (who..I’d also like to have)

you have to fight for these next two games. You’re not done until the math says you’re done. I know a playoff run doesn’t seem likely, but you can’t throw in the towel while you have a 2-1 division record.

I think both ownership and the coaches set the team up for failure going to Denver with all that negativity headed into the game. I am 100% sure we’ll see a different team the next few weeks. I’m not 100% sure they’ll win, but we’ll see some fight.

with some of the injuries and bad FA signings BUT I don’t think he was cut out for being a DC.

When they hired him I had a bad feeling it was your typicall Giants move. Don’t pay a proven outside guy, eehhmm Greg Williams who Sean Peyton took a PAYCUT so his cheap ass owner would hire him, and be cheap and hire an unproven guy even if there are better options out there. BS was not even part of Spag’s sytem. Spags inherted him when he took over in 07 so it’s not like BS grew up in that Jim Johnson system like Spags did. BS has Johnny Lynn and Tim Lewis written all over him when he was hired. Hell Tim Lewis is better than BS in my book.

To me with the BS hire it’s like the Giants said we won a SB and made four playoff appearances and said we no longer have a sence of urgencey so we will not compete with GB NO, and DEN for the top DC’s out there . . . how’s that working out! The Saints D SUUUUCCKED last year it handled NE pretty dam well last night.

Giants get a creative OC who made Brady into Brady…and ND gets a lock to flop as their HC and its will be even easier to root against them!

but you’re certainly not out of it at all. These next two weeks are the defining ones. I can’t agree with the guys that are arguing to play the rookies already!!!! I’m an Eagles fan, but I want to see some fight from you dammit (especially this weekend…lol)

How far back are we allowed to go? We ran off 5 in a row in mostly dominating fashion to start the season. Is that too far? We beat Dallas already in game 2. Too far? We put up 34 points in beating Atlanta 2 weeks ago and took Sand Diego to the limit, a team who looks like the 3rd best team in the NFC right now.

Is all that forgotten? Are we only allowed to look at what the Giants did wrong in Denver and think they can’t turn it around? Or can we also look at what they’ve done right and think they can duplicate those things going forward?

This is not the Raiders or Skins, who can pull off a win any given Sunday themselves by the way. We actually have talent. I think most of us here believe the problems are primarily in execution. That means these games are there to take.

I’m not throwing in the towel and calling for the field to be wiped clean so the rookies can cut their teeth. In fact, I’m gonna go Jim Fassel right now. You’re out, you’re out. You’re in, you’re in. This team…is going to the playoffs.

They need the defense to start playing D. It starts up front collectively. No reason to believe that the Giants can win when opposing running games are into our second and third levels. Even if our porous ST’s puts the D on a short field, then the D needs to STEP UP, and make stops or create TO’s!

I’m confident that we can generate offense, just as long were not in the red zone, but thats besides the point.

Whats the sense in having faith in the Giants D when the offense puts you in position to win? SD is a good example and Atl., we were lucky! So how the D comes out against Dallas, could very well determine the rest of the season.

I really want to see how everyone reacts if we do win the next 2 games.

teams that win play their asses off. I hope FB is right that it was the short rest and altitude, and not a general lack of caring and drive. And I hope they play their asses off because it will be my first trip ever to a Giants game against my long-time most hated team (recently displaced.)
I disagree with those who would fold the season now. Frankly, the Giants are in the playoffs if they play well from hereon out. The only problem is that many fans are not willing to hope that they will play well, or with fire. You simply can’t fold a team in playoff contention to develop rookies. Quit? With 5 weeks to go and 3 division games? Sorry, but that’s pathetic. How quickly fortunes turn in the NFL over 5 weeks … how quickly perceptions turn after just 1 or 2 weeks. Ask the Titans, or the Jets, or the Broncos. Coming into this year TItans went up, down, up. Broncos same thing. There’s time for our “up” if these guys play well.
And Jesus Christ, put Bill Sheridan in the fucking booth, put him on a satellite, ANYTHING to try to get better results. Obviously he’s ours until the end of the season at least.
Part of the missing fire and swagger, too, is Brandon Jacobs, a guy who in ‘07 and ’08 I felt embodied a lot of this team’s passion. Not to mention Bradshaw is a fiery SOB as well and he’s been hampered and dampered. As a result we’re left with a team very much like Eli — a lot of talent, not a lot of fire. Sheridan, too — a real wet blanket. And they’ve gotten into a funk. Ultimately, what this team may need, as intangible as it sounds, is for someone to fill the emotional leadership void that was vacated by Stray, and apparently further vacated by Spags and Brandon and Bradshaw and Pierce.
I’m in East Rutherford Sunday at noon. Bring the SWAGGER BACK GIANTS!

about some of those teams in the past. You forgot the Eagles too when they were what? 5-4-1 last year and when on a run.

but idk man, i just don’t see it with this team. too inconsistent. Yeah we went 4-4 at the end of ’07 and we had a pretty bad losses to Wash and Minn.

I just don’t see the consistency on Defense and if Eli is dealing with more foot issues well, i’m not holding my breath.

Still, you make a very good point about those teams.

Giants are in a situation where if they play well and win some games, they could sneak in.

As long as they sneak in, it doesn’t matter.

People always talk about that 2007 team….but they were 10-6 and like you say, pretty much sputtered into the playoffs by the fact that there were no other good teams in the hunt.

but Dallas and NE torched everybody that year. Eli lost them the Vikings and Redskin games at home that year. He threw 3 pick sixes and one retuned to the one yard line against Minn and thre 30 something incompletions against the Skins. They would have been 12-4 in 07 if Eli played the way he played last year or even this year for that matter.

Everybody thought the Giants were goind nowhere becasue of Eli not becasue of the D or WR’s or O-line or RB’s all they need was Eli to play well and that was an Elite team and thats what happened in the playoffs. This team stinks on D, stinks in the O-line, RB’s cant run, Eli is the best player and he’s been a little inconsistant (as usual)

I love your optimisim but looking at it realistcly this is a 6-10 7-9 team right now. People were fustrated in 07 because people thought they could be great they just needed one guy to step up.

Cofield, Robbins, and Bernard have been huge disappointments this season. I’m not saying coming off micro surgery is no big deal b/c it is, but Robbins just looks like a shell of his former self. Rocky Bernard has done nothing all year, and Cofield just doesn’t look the same.

on to the offense…what is wrong with Richy Suebert? this guy is a revolving door at G and it’s killing us. Can’t run block, can’t pass protect.

Can we chalk this all up to Injuries? Because if that was the case and these guys are that bad than they shouldn’t be playing. The way Suebert’s playing i would consider moving Diehl to G and letting Beatty play T.

and at Week 17, beat the fuck outta those punks.

So a Dallas win would be more crucial. They’re leading by two games and a lost drops them down to one. But, then the Giants have the tie breaker advantage if need be, which potentially could come down to that?! Dallas doesn’t have it any easier with the Chargers, Saints, Redskins and the Eagles. Not only do we improve our chances at the division, but WC too.

Now if the Falcons beat the Eagles this weekend, things get more interesting. We still have the tie breaker on the Falcons, but now we control our own destiny. A win against the Eagles would be a split, but the tie breakers would become more clearer for the playoffs. If there is a split, i think it goes to division record, then conference and common opponents? This would tie in with the Cowboys against the Chargers and Saints. Losable games for them IMO!

For the Packers, i can also see 3-4 potential losses with their schedule too, so their WC aspirations are as questionable to this point as the Giants?! But the bottom line is that the Giants just need to win and forget about what everyone is doing!!!

That guy threw passes that looked like junior high punts.

Well…get em next year.

They also said…"Wait, WTF are you talking about, you’re still in this.

Then a long diatribe on the suck of the Bears and the Jay Cutler mess.

He started the Pitt game last year and had a pick. Hell I think that was the last pick by a LB. After the SF game they replaced him with Blackburn I’m not sure why. He played in the Minny game and looked quick and could blitz well. Small sampling but he did not look any worse than our current guys and defanetly looked quicker.

Boley, Michael.

While Boley was hurt, so was Kehl.

Kehl is pretty much recovered by all intents…but so are Sintim and Boley.

I do think that playing Kehl would be nice.

got benched in favor of Bruce Johnson, who has played better.

and will not be here next year.

Gmen should went with their instincts and never resigned him in the first place.

isn’t a bad idea.

that’s where your 100% wrong.

Once we make the playoffs…anything can happen.

Sure, RIGHT NOW, the Giants wouldn’t stand a chance against either of those teams.

They didn’t stand a chance in 2007 either did they?

They were 12-4 last year and everyone expected them to roll right? #1 seed and all right?

Get into the playoffs…everyone is 0-0.

How about the Saints and Vikings make the SB and win it before they “raise the bar”.

Its kind of scary how the Vikings of 2009 look like the Packers of 2007. Let Farve NOT INT his way out of the playoffs first.

And the Saints? I do remember a Cowboy team that looked pretty unbeatable in 2007 too.

We get in the playoffs…its a whole new game.

Gotta get in tho.

and Weiss scares me a little….remember we don’t have Tom Brady under center.

until the Giants are out of it…they’re in it.

Beat Dallass and Philly, what does it matter?

THose guys except Strah are still there, so they can come alive again can’t they?

And in 2007….We had Sam Madison, RW McQuarters, Gibril Wilson and James Butler as the secondary.

This week. Thanksgiving week, has nothing to do with how teams will play in January.

Let everyone ride the balls of NO, MIN or whoever else. Let em.

Doesn’t mean squat come January.