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TC: "You can second-guess it all you want"

In the end, I think we can all agree that what cost the Giants the most in the 21-20 loss to San Diego was not scoring a touchdown after Terrell Thomas interception put the ball at the 4-yard line late in the fourth quarter.

Here is Tom Coughlin, explaining his decision to play for the field goal. One, by the way, which I strongly disagree with. You have a veteran quarterback playing well, and a touchdown guarantees the win. You have to take that shot.

Q. After Terrell Thomas’s interception there were no plays that took a shot at the end zone. Was that by design?

A. It wasn’t that. It was the idea that we had the penalty, so we were behind the eight ball and we took our loss and they stuck back and defended the goal line. We didn’t want to turn the ball over, obviously. We didn’t want to be in a position like that. You can second-guess it all you want. Field goal at that point in time forced them to have a touchdown and score a touchdown. There was plenty of time, over two minutes. But, we just had a couple of really good series defensively. We forced them into bad situations and we had a lot of momentum with our touchdown. We felt good about the situation we were in. We let them off the hook.

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"The Bolts are who we thought they were...but we let 'em off the hook!"

Dont hate me for commenting. I just had a Dennis Green moment.

Bowe and Wade FTW.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.

by NJChieffan16 on Nov 8, 2009 9:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

LOL!

that was the first thing I thought…..

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 8, 2009 10:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

same here

"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09

by cjmulrain on Nov 8, 2009 10:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Running on 3rd and goal...

I think the main idea of running on third and goal there is to keep the clock moving, moreso than b/c of a lack of faith in the passing game. Regardless of how well Manning was playing, what are the odds of converting a 3rd and goal from the 9? 25%? 30%? I don’t think it’s particularly high.

By running, you either force the Chargers to burn a timeout or kill more time. I think Coughlin made the right call there. The defense didn’t do its job at the end.

by sjohnson125 on Nov 8, 2009 9:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I disagree

We’ve said it here that Eli is an elite QB. You don’t take the ball out of an “elite” QB’s hand, you trust him to make the correct read and throw. If anything, it sends a message to the rest of the league that we don’t have confidence in our QB in that situation, hence the predictable run playcalling.

by njgiant on Nov 8, 2009 9:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

SD's D was not playing well

and Eli was. Sometimes you just have to call plays based on what’s going on in the game not percentages. TC had too much confidence in his mediorce D.

by Landeta on Nov 8, 2009 9:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Or TC had too little faith in the O

We didn't even have a chance for the "perfect season", but we did have the perfect ending.

by GAgiantfan on Nov 8, 2009 10:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Read the above quote

Coughlin admits there was plenty of time to score.

by Mount17 on Nov 8, 2009 10:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It's easier to score in 2:30 than 2:00

It’s all about adjusting the odds incrementally. It’s not a no-brainer by any stretch, but I think it was justifiable.

by sjohnson125 on Nov 8, 2009 10:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

i’ll go a step further and say the decision actually didn’t work out poorly. san diego probably had enough time to run 5 more plays from around midfield – what more could we ask for? running clock there was huge.

by tulls200 on Nov 8, 2009 10:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

SD marched down the field like Moses parting the Red Sea. They didn’t even have to use their time out. If anything by running down the clock the Giants were left with no time to respond. You might say if SD had more time they probably would have run some plays to use the clock up but they also didn’t want to shoot themselves in the foot. They probably would have scored quickly because the plays were there to take.

I’ve been following the Giants since they played in Yankee Stadium. I recall listening to the 1958 playoff game on WNEW AM. If there is one thing I have seen is that the odds generally favor the coach that plays to win rather than not to lose.

by gategem on Nov 9, 2009 1:14 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's a great point

Those who play to win usually do.

by potroast on Nov 9, 2009 7:38 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Very true

TC did not go for the back-breaker, and he has to live with that.

by Ed Valentine on Nov 9, 2009 8:50 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

note to TC:

you PLAY to WIN the GAME

anybody see Whisenhunt quip “We didn’t let’em off the hook?” That was funny stuff.

You play to win the game!

by Simms-McConkey on Nov 9, 2009 11:24 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't want to say TC is going to have regrets

But getting conservative like that goes beyond “the one game season” comment he made. What good did it do? Absolutely nothing! If he’s worried about turning the ball over and wanting to be cautious, as to at least setup for a FG, then perhaps he should’ve just took three consecutive kneel downs!

It goes without saying that we were still winning 17-14, so SD STILL, has to score a TD to win even if we did turn the ball over. You can still incorporate a sense of agressiveness passing, even if they are defending the goal line. If it’s picked off and not a touchback and with minimal return yards, they still have a lot of ground to cover for their TD! But, we can second guess that too, but we’ll never know.

So just by playing for the FG, you only give SD a sense of urgency to score a TD and at the same time, you psychologically lose yours!

by Hootman on Nov 9, 2009 12:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This is one of those Retrospect is 20-20 moments

I was torn. On the train ride back from the meadowlands, I thought that you play to stop them, not run out the clock.

3 and whatever, we should have tried throwing it into the endzone, than on 4 I would have had no problem kicking the fg if we miss.

Tuck coming out of the game was our downfall

The Cowboys are the France of the NFL
-thwalls

by Willgfass on Nov 8, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, but

I was saying that he had no confidence in the O when we had a chance to score a TD from inside the 5.

We didn't even have a chance for the "perfect season", but we did have the perfect ending.

by GAgiantfan on Nov 9, 2009 8:49 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It seems that TC is guilty of trusting his defense too much. It obviously didn’t work, but I agree with the assessment of how the D had been playing up until that point. At this point, no unit and very few players should have that level of trust going forward. I’m confident we’ll get things turned around after the bye. The loss sucks but it was competitive and we didn’t get run out of the gym like we had the 3 of the past 4 weeks.
Whatever we need to do to curb these asinine penalties, let’s do it. They’re killing us as much as anything else.

by lboogie25 on Nov 8, 2009 9:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

bubba23 is looking like a real genius

he predicted that our Gmen would be 5-4 at the bye and he was roasted for posting his thoughts. I hate that he was correct but I hate it more that it was Rivers that had the great two minute drill and Merriman (pick via Eli trade) that got the final sack and got to do that stupid ass sack dance.

by njgiant on Nov 8, 2009 9:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I have to disagree with TC

It’s 3rd down on the opponents 10 and his excuse is they were defending the goal? My follow up would be are’nt they always? You go for the end zone there. You can’t trust this D against Rivers. I think there are only a few D’s in the league that are good in that situation. I’m sorry you never leave the game up to your D even if your D is very good. You would not play for a FG in the first quater why do it there?

by Landeta on Nov 8, 2009 9:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

So he admits

that there was plenty of time left and that it was basically fear of a turnover that led to the conservative playcalling. The problem is that Eli was playing flawlessly (I mean really flawlessley – I can’t think of one play today from him that I had a problem with, except maybe one sack where he held the ball too long).

by Mount17 on Nov 8, 2009 9:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

There was one where beckum (i think)

was wide open on a streak. But yeah, I think we saw good ol’ easy e today

The Cowboys are the France of the NFL
-thwalls

by Willgfass on Nov 8, 2009 10:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought they should have shot the end zone.

Tho, of course…Jacobs almost got in anyway with the run

Maybe they should have even went for it one 4th and goal?

Still, the way teh defense was playing, you kinda see what Coughlin was thinking

Yet, the way the defense was playing, was not the way Eli was playing. Really, most of his incompletions were due to the O-Line (when do we start looking at these guys? Eli has to be Houdini back there) and throwing it away.

Lot to thinkg about these next couple weeks. Tho I would have to say, they did get back to what works today.

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 8, 2009 10:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yup

Eli had eight incompletions. 3 were on Houdini acts where he threw the ball away. 3 were on drops – Smith on the play that was overturned (Smith should have secured it before it got knocked out), Jacobs on the short dump off, and Bradshaw on the last drive when he looked up field too quickly. Another one was the pass on the last drive that he chucked deep to Smith in desperation. (and even that was on target). I can’t recall the eighth incompletion.

by Mount17 on Nov 8, 2009 10:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Eli was very good today

considering the O-line was mediorce today. Hopefully he’s out of his funk and he plays well the rest of the way.

by Landeta on Nov 8, 2009 10:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

he said that on Friday...

the foot really felt as good as it has all season.

Coupled with the 2 weeks off, yea, I think Eli’s back.

Its just a shame that for the past 3 weeks….he wasn’t healthy. Yet the use him too much. This week, I thought they used him fine, yet of course that lovely last FG ‘drive’ the run too much.

Eli was fine, they gotta try and punch it in.

San Diego’s going for the TD no matter what on that drive, even if the Giants get 0 points (they want to win the game…F Overtime).

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 8, 2009 10:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

and the O-line's been mediocre for a while now

I think our resident whiner Zillag is actually right on that one, Seubert is really getting blown up at times, McKenzie’s slow too.

Not sure what to do this season other than leave it, but damn, ELi really has to run for his life back there at times.

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 8, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I know Eli's not the most fleet of foot

but how about on first and goal from the 4, spread it out for a QB draw. Seems to work for Romo and Rogers.

by njgiant on Nov 8, 2009 10:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

would be nice...

I mean god forbid they do something that NO ONE EXPECTS…..

Its really sad how we all come up with such simple plays to overcome the RZ woes.

Play action, QB sneak, something like that.

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 8, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

We should have at least ran it up the gut

SD has no interior presence. Even if we got stopped, there probably would have been no holding.

I hate close games like this (unless we win)! So many things that could have happened, that should have happened, but there’s nothing we can do about it

The Cowboys are the France of the NFL
-thwalls

by Willgfass on Nov 8, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What a lame excuse

Maybe the Giants should have “stuck back and defended the goal line” and force the Chargers to “run the ball”. I mean, that is why we didn’t go for the TD, right???, they were defending the goal line…

by njgiant on Nov 8, 2009 10:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

It's ironic b/c this is what Mike Garafolo says
Still cannot understand the covg call on the game-winning TD. Cover-2 when you know they need a TD?? Defend the end zone!

by Mount17 on Nov 8, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He means

they did their job and prevented the Giants from scoring a TD. Coughlin frequently talks like he’s a caoch from the 40’s or 50’s.

by blains2000 on Nov 8, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The defense has been taken through the mud

but our offense couldn’t score, for whatever reasons, with a first-and-ten, from the 4 yard line. Was it the play calling? Lack of discipline? Either way, it is sad that we could not average 1.001 yards per play and take it into the end zone.

We didn't even have a chance for the "perfect season", but we did have the perfect ending.

by GAgiantfan on Nov 8, 2009 10:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Thanks GA
with a first-and-ten, from the 4 yard line

after todays bomb, I needed that laugh.

by njgiant on Nov 8, 2009 10:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeh it was funny....crap you caught it!

We didn't even have a chance for the "perfect season", but we did have the perfect ending.

by GAgiantfan on Nov 9, 2009 8:51 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lol I was soooo PO'ed yesterday

We didn't even have a chance for the "perfect season", but we did have the perfect ending.

by GAgiantfan on Nov 9, 2009 8:58 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

TC's decison....

   Doesn’t bother me all that much, it didn’t work, but there was a logic behind it. What has me far more riled up is that Sheridan doesn’t seem to have command of the defense, a conception of how to attack the opposing quarterback, a gameplan, an ability to make adjustments, and an inability to inspire confidence. Many of the moves on defense have ZERO logic to them (i.e. Tuck in coverage), and I think a move needs to be made there.

by Cranky50 on Nov 8, 2009 10:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Sort of agree

Firing your DC in mid-season is tantamount to throwing in the towel. But, I totally agree with your sentiment otherwise. I think the bigger reason that the Giants lost the game than TC’s decision was the baffling play calling by Sheridan on that final drive. Zone blitzing and dropping Tuck and leaving the middle of the field wide open? Playing zone coverage? WTF was he thinking? It’s exactly what we’ve been saying all week … he’s in over his head.

by potroast on Nov 9, 2009 7:42 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Some more optimism

(h/t to Ralph Vachianno’s twitter): the only other team in NFC History to start off 5-0 and then lose 4 straight was the 1989 Rams. Those Rams finished the season 11-5 and lost the the NFC Championship Game to maybe the best team in NFL History. Still a loooong season to go.

"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09

by cjmulrain on Nov 8, 2009 10:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

its been the same motto for the past couple weeks....

WIN and the what happened before is irrelevant (tho…not really so much now, got a fairly steep hill to climb).

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 8, 2009 10:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Tucks injury....

   Also helped the Bolts as not only did the Giants lose Tuck, but it stopped the clock, saved San Diego a time out, and cost the Giants one. That’s nobody’s fault, but it did play a role in what transpired.

by Cranky50 on Nov 8, 2009 10:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

yup...

Tuck stays healthy, maybe those blitzes get there……

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 8, 2009 10:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If it's a self-proclaimed "one game season" ..

Then why didn’t TC GO for the win? If your leader isn’t walking the talk, and stepping up as all leaders should when the going gets tough (both TC comments this week) .. who’s going to follow THAT “lead”?!

The more I listen, the more I hear TC making excuses for not following his own advice. I am not surprised the players aren’t following. You either stand for something .. or you stand for nothing. Very weak TC, very weak.

Go Gmen

by giants013 on Nov 8, 2009 10:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

TC is full of ish here

I mean it was 3rd and goal at the 9 not 3rd and goal 25. I can understand first and second down, but once you get to that 3rd and 9 you got to try to convert that. I remember watching Peyton Manning in a similar situtation a couple years back raise up and complete and out route for a game sealing TD. Eli could have at least been allowed to attempt it. They didn’t play to win the game tonight.

by DoctorK16 on Nov 8, 2009 11:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

No Guessing Was Necessary

Eli was on big time, secondary had been getting gonged all afternoon, and Rivers is an excellent passer. Put it all together (not difficult) and going with defense rather than offense in that situation was playing to their strenghts and our weaknesses.

by Deal With It on Nov 8, 2009 11:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Thanks For Nothing G-Men

oh well, my Broncos are in firm command in the AFC West and the Steelers are going down Monday night. We’ll see you guys in a few weeks. Good luck in the interim!

Brad James

by the Bradfather on Nov 8, 2009 11:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Bronco fans already

Thanks anyways. Hopefully by thanksgiving we’ll be turned around

The Cowboys are the France of the NFL
-thwalls

by Willgfass on Nov 9, 2009 12:13 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bye, bye D and O coaches

I hasn’t been good to know you.
Either you have it or you don’t, the present D and O coaches
are not super bowl caliber.

by Olddiehard on Nov 9, 2009 1:09 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm willing to live with Coughlin's mistake.

In the heat of battle it’s easy to make a questionable decision. If Jacobs had made it in we would all be cheering his call. TC has been a large part of our success and gets a pass on this one.

Let’s see how the rest of the season goes when we get healthy in the secondary.

by giant fan since 57 on Nov 9, 2009 5:17 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

TC's decsion is not awful

If they throw on 3rd down it’s no guarantee they score but I just don’t agree with it. TC had them ready to play just some questionable game managment decisions late. This is going to sound wierd but I think at times he has too much confidence in his team. What I mean is it was tough to ask your D to go back on the field and stop a very potent O that had sufficient time to drive after they made what they thought was the game clinching play on the series before. Physically and mental that was a lot to ask for. They sould of done it and stoped them but if you can put the game out of reach you dont have to worry about that. Passing the ball on third and goal from the 10 is not a high risk play when your QB is playing well.

by Landeta on Nov 9, 2009 6:01 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And I'm thinking the total opposite

That Thomas pick and return took the life out of the Chargers. Settling for a field goal in that situation gave the life back to them. Stopping the Gmen from making a 4 yard gain on 3 plays had to take a toll on the D. What a letdown? First and goal from the 4 with a packed house going crazy and 22,456 tons of momentum, I would have liked to see us take a shot (pass) at the end zone. Smith and his route running ability, Nicks and those huge hands, why not take the shot? Maybe Cough should take his vest off so that he doesn’t have to play so close to it.

by njgiant on Nov 9, 2009 7:37 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

EXACTLY njgiant

Kicking that field goal was more demoralizing to me than SD scoring at the end.
And I’m not second guessing, I know what I would’ve done.

We didn't even have a chance for the "perfect season", but we did have the perfect ending.

by GAgiantfan on Nov 9, 2009 8:55 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

you mean 1st and 10 don't you? lol

We didn't even have a chance for the "perfect season", but we did have the perfect ending.

by GAgiantfan on Nov 9, 2009 8:55 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No guarantee

Of course it is no guarantee that it works. I would feel a whole lot better today, though, if they had tried for the back-breaker. And I agree, I thought his confidence in the defense in that situation was misplaced.

by Ed Valentine on Nov 9, 2009 8:53 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What I don't like about it is

Most Defenses in this league let up those types of drives late. Even great ones Look at the past two SB’s. Pitt’s D was awsome all year but got shreded late. They only won because they had the ball last just like our Giants the year before. Great D all game but when Brady needed it he got an easy TD. Hell we’ve seen Eli do it over the years. I just think a desperate talented O vs a tired D is a bad matchup even if your D held them on the past two drives. If there was a minute left sure I agree with TC kick the field goal but 2 mins with the 2 min warning and a TO remaining,no guarantee your winning. Also and it did not come back to bite the TC but what if Tynes shanks another kickoff or they let up their trade mark 40 yard return to midfield which we all knew was quite possible in that situation? I think you play to the strenghts of your team not what’s in some coaching manual and thats the O against a weak D. The Giants were a bit lucky Rivers threw his one really bad pass on the previous series, it was tough to beleive he would do that again. I could not sleep last night, I’m still sick over this one. I feel like a Jets fan.

by Landeta on Nov 9, 2009 5:53 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ouch...

I never want to feel like a jets fan.

River outplayed us. We all know that if the situation were reversed, with eli needing to score a td with 2 minutes left, he would have came through for us. One of those things you have to live with

The Cowboys are the France of the NFL
-thwalls

by Willgfass on Nov 9, 2009 4:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

how exactly do you know that?

He had first and goal from the 4 to seal the game and didn’t convert, but he would have drove that same team 80 yards for the win?

by sduncan24 on Nov 10, 2009 5:16 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yea...

you must not have watched…

they called a WR screen, then 2 runs.

I’m sure Eli was pissed, but that’s what they called.

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 10, 2009 8:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That 3rd and goal call was the classic negative mindset …

The real crime here, is TC could have had it both ways – what’s wrong with calling a pass play, but instruct Eli that if it isn’t there, just take the sack. It’s still a chip shot FG, and you still run the clock like the up the gut running play ? Bad clock management is also a trait of TC over the years.

The lure of "playing it safe" is far too great for so many coaches, yet only works when it’s two bad teams playing. The game is there to be won. You have control of the situation. And you don’t take your shot.

by Shofner85 on Nov 9, 2009 7:08 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

the sad thing is they thought they were taking their "shot"

but running the draw to Jacobs (and it almost worked…).

He was overthinking right there. Yea, the D is probably thinking passs and running Jake might catch em off guard (it did too).

Still, you right. Even if Eli gets sacked, its not the end of the world cuz hopefully Tynes can make it anyway.

Really, gotta shoot the EZ…with a pass. They seem so intent at sacrificing Boss, why not throw throw to him up the middle?

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 9, 2009 7:43 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

With Giant's football

I’m sure the Chargers were thinking run all the way.

by njgiant on Nov 9, 2009 7:47 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I will give a kudo out to Boss..

That kid is one tough SOB..He gets whacked every week and comes back..That scene of him yesterday on the bench after getting his bell rung pouring ice water on his face was special..He refuses to quit that kid..He is a heck of a tight-end..I don’t miss Shockey at all…I just hope he can withstand the beatings and sticks around for a few years.

by Bobbiblue on Nov 9, 2009 7:27 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yes, kudos to Boss-

for once, I’d like to see one of his big hits pay off. This loss is absolutely on Coughlin, Gilbride, Sheridan and….Tynes. But that missed field goal only highlight the problems in the red zone. This losing streak is on the coaches.

by takeoutburger on Nov 9, 2009 7:43 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And where the heck was Pierce after the game?

Every other team leader is there facing the media like a man but Pierce cuts out again? Gutless…

by takeoutburger on Nov 9, 2009 7:46 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

probably a good thing...

I don’t want AP speaking to the media anymore after the Raiders “scrimmage” talk.

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 9, 2009 7:59 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That worked out well

It helped fire up the Raiders to beat the Eagles.

by Mount17 on Nov 9, 2009 9:19 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

They could tape record his usual excuses

And just replay it every week..Same ’ol crap..His playing days are pretty much over.

by Bobbiblue on Nov 9, 2009 8:11 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Probably getting some Patron at the Latin Quarter

Pathetic

Jerry,
Please cut Antonio Pierce.
Thanks,
DB

by DukBudr on Nov 9, 2009 8:21 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah if you look at him..

He is totally out of shape..He must drink more beer than we do..He certainly can afford it…His gut is loaded with it by the looks of it..like I said in an earlier post, the only thing he’s good for is to be around when you shoot yourself in the nuts.

by Bobbiblue on Nov 9, 2009 8:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What is his contract situation? There is no way we can go forward with such a sub-par athlete at mlb.

Jerry,
Please cut Antonio Pierce.
Thanks,
DB

by DukBudr on Nov 9, 2009 8:34 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought

He was this year and next, but I was wondering if any of that is guaranteed…Honestly there’s no way we can go into next year with him. Remember when he wanted a long term deal after the Super Bowl?—A great JR move not to give it to him!

Jerry,
Please cut Antonio Pierce.
Thanks,
DB

by DukBudr on Nov 9, 2009 8:56 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

2 years is nothing....

I really doubt that unless hie finds something left in the tank that he stays….

Since he can’t beat him out anyway..I have no idea what Goff would do, but maybe giving him a few snaps wouldn’t hurt. Goff is sure as hell earning it on ST ( he likes to HIT!).

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 9, 2009 11:25 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I loved that

Seeing it from the endzone was great. You could hear that hit

The Cowboys are the France of the NFL
-thwalls

by Willgfass on Nov 9, 2009 4:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Listening to Mike & Mike this morning

They are absolutely killing TC for that decision. Greenie just said something like “you are paying Eli more money than ANYONE else in the NFL right now and you don’t want to put the ball in his hands to win the game?”

by potroast on Nov 9, 2009 8:08 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

it doesn't make sense....

He was playing so well the entire game…the slant was unvelied from its grave and working like a charm…the Steve Smith cut in play worked like a charm already…

I just don’t understand.

It seems they overthink things a bit too much.

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 9, 2009 8:21 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I don't get it..

Go for the score..geez it doesn’t make sense..Eli outplayed Rivers the whole game..and they take the ball out of his hands?..Insane.

by Bobbiblue on Nov 9, 2009 8:24 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

+3

You play to win the game!

by Simms-McConkey on Nov 9, 2009 11:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Terrible quote, terrible loss

After that Snee holding call, Coughlin’s mindset shouldn’t have been on running the clock; it should’ve been on scoring a damn touchdown. That holding call stopped the clock and essentially saved the Chargers a timeout. They were going to have enough time to score regardless.

Worst case scenario if TC’s mindset is where it should be: a couple of incomplete passes stop the clock, the Giants don’t score a touchdown and San Diego is left with 2 timeouts and 2:40 to score a TD. The Chargers come down and score and the Giants are left with some time at the end of the game to drive for a field goal. Or the Giants stop the Chargers because the abundance of time left doesn’t necessitate a no-huddle offense.

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by All Shook Down on Nov 9, 2009 8:16 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

especailly once they got close after fist and second down. They should have thrown it on third down.

by Landeta on Nov 9, 2009 8:39 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Why not ..........

pass the F*cking ball on first down off a turn over? I would have called play action on first down. Not some BS sweep with Jacobs. I hated the play call. Even if they scored I’d still dislike the play call. Is it a coincidence Jacobs has 1 rushing TD and AB has 4?

by FrankB0318 on Nov 9, 2009 5:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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