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Friday afternoon New York Giants news and notes

A few quick notes for you on a Friday afternoon, just in case you don't already have enough New York Giants reading material.

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First, a site update. If any of you ever look at the masthead, you may have already noticed that regular commenter 'brisulph' has been added as a moderator. He has always done a great job of bringing objectionable stuff to my attention. So, when 'bri' comments and tells you to knock it off, or e-mails you a warning, he has my full support. Same with Jim or CJ. I am seeing a contentious tone lately in some of the comments, and I don't like it. BBV has always been a classy place, and I am determined to keep it that way.

Now, some football notes.

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Kevin Gilbride wants to see two things Sunday against San Diego.

1. Fewer turnovers.

"You have to be really conscious of how important that ball is. Right now we are doing so many good things, if you can just stop doing some of those bad things, we are going to be difficult to contend with," said Gilbride. "We are leading the league in big plays, big pass plays over twenty, we’re doing a lot of good things, now just be more consistent. Certainly that consistency expresses itself in cutting down on mistakes and the biggest mistake of all is when you turn it over."

2. Brandon Jacobs and the running game being established right away.

"Yeah, I think that is always critical. The better we can do in that it just helps set everything up. It establishes the tenor of the game. It gets everybody excited when they see him running the ball with physical force and the prowess that he has. It certainly sets up some opportunities for throwing the ball down the field for some big plays," Gilbride said. "We haven’t run the ball very well in the beginning. We have run the ball after we have started throwing it. That is really what has helped him. He has been a beneficiary of the throwing. What we would like to see is us to start off the game running the ball better."

I'm not sure I agree with KG on that one. I think sometimes the Giants have run the ball well, then gotten away from it too quickly. But, whatever. As long as we see a steady diet of Jacobs Sunday I will be happy.

So will Jacobs, who can't believe he does not have a 100-yard game heading into Week 9.

"I would never even imagine that.  If you would have told me at the beginning of the year, I would have told them, ‘bury you.’ But it is what it is. I’ve been running hard, I’ve been doing the best that I can and taking what they have been giving me and working and trying to make something of it," Jacobs said. "if anybody is due for one, it is definitely me."

Phil Simms says Eli Manning's plantar fasciitis has "got to be a problem."

"Think about it. It’s the pain. It’s not being able to do things the same way. You lose a little confidence. You can’t practice as much. ... "I’m just saying when you have something wrong with your foot there are a lot of problems that can come about because of it."

Big Blue View got a mention this week from 'Cold, Hard Football Facts.' We'll take it, regardless of what it is in reference to.

This was mentioned in the comments, but it's worth pointing out. 'Bad, Bad C.C. Brown' is at least facing up to his mistakes. He spoke about DeSean Jackson's 54-yard TD last Sunday.

"Basically, the whole play was my fault," Brown said after practice Thursday. "My fault that I gave up the deep ball, and my fault that I checked into the wrong thing. It’s nobody else’s fault but mine."

More than just publicly acknowledging his mistakes, he has also owned up to his teammates.

"I had to, I’m man enough to realize that, and I’m man enough to accept it," Brown said, speaking specifically about the Jackson play. "They were a little bit disgusted at me, but that comes with the territory."

My take: For Brown, that's a good start. Whether we like it or not, this guy is going to be important to the Giants the rest of the way.

By the way, the Star-Ledger is reporting today that Aaron Rouse worked with the first team today at practice rather than Brown.

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Something sure needs to be different

1. You can try and re-establish the running game, but try and do it by not telegraphing the play with formations and down/distance tendencies like we have been.

2. Nothing we can do but hope Eli can step into the throws. No viable backup other than for a game or two.

3. CC going bye-bye may not fix the secondary, but jeez they had to do something ! Here’s hoping Rouse can’t be worse.

4. Most of all, the pressure on the QB has to actually get there. Maybe Canty (occupying blockers and space) and Boley can help.

by Shofner85 on Nov 6, 2009 2:27 PM EST reply actions  

Running Game

I’m praying this is the game where we get our running game back. 100 yards for Jacobs or not, I just want our running game to get the call on 3rd and 2. Here’s to hoping our O-Line is up to task of breaking open some gaps for Jacobs, Bradshaw, and Ware.

by RolloT on Nov 6, 2009 2:38 PM EST reply actions  

you know....

it is refreshing to hear CC own up to his mistakes. It’s gotta be tough to come to the realization that your hurting the other 10 guys on the field and the other 52 guys in the locker room so hopefully that’s a start.

rouse sadly is not the answer…i still think it’s game planning and going back to man coverage.

or moving MJ to FS and putting CC in the box…or rouse for that matter.

remember the knock on rouse was that he was bad in coverage, and took bad angles. So let’s hope that BS doesn’t expect Rouse to turn into KP over night….

"If you don't know what you're doing... just rush the quarterback" - LT

by andiamo708 on Nov 6, 2009 2:40 PM EST reply actions  

I feel that Rouse

will get better with more practice and practice unlike CC Brown who showed no improvement in coverage at all. If Rouse can keep everyone in front of him like what KP always did, he should do fine. Just as long as he doesn’t give up the big plays like Brown did we should be in every ball game from now on.

"We're only going to score 17 points?!" - Tom Brady

by iLL on Nov 6, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

"We're only going to score 17 points?!" - Tom Brady

by iLL on Nov 6, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

our last DC was SS

I’m kind of afraid to touch that one…

And our best ever DC was BB. Maybe he liked to ‘walk’ all over opposing offenses?

"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09

by cjmulrain on Nov 6, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

thanks for keeping it professional

Long time reader, first time commenting. It is the only site where I can stand reading posts from similar G-men fans. You do a great job keeping the posts clean and professional, keep up the great work.

by lil'beaver on Nov 6, 2009 3:20 PM EST reply actions  

Good thing for you

we don’t police the “handles” as closely.

by Shofner85 on Nov 6, 2009 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

The Chargers have similar problems to the Giants

They haven’t been able to beat any winning teams.

by John W on Nov 6, 2009 4:21 PM EST reply actions  

Then let the best team win ..

But despite changing/adding players .. if the Giants keep playing the same schemes, I don’t think it’s a personnel issue, but a coaching one.

I haven’t seen anything in the past 3 weeks that proves the Giants have learned from their mistakes. Hope I’m wrong.

Go Gmen

by giants013 on Nov 6, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the G-men will stop the bleeding

What is it they say about the most desperate teams usually wins. Right now that’s the G-men.

by John W on Nov 6, 2009 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

unfortunately

you could have said the same thing about the Saints, Cardinals, and Eagles coming into their games with the Giants

"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09

by cjmulrain on Nov 6, 2009 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Not trying to be sarcastic here

but what did anyone expect CC to do, other than take the blame for his poor play? It was only obvious to the WORLD that he played terribly. By the responses of the other players, it was obvious that, on a number of occasions, he blew his responsibilities. I’m all for people taking blame where blame is due, but I’m not giving him any pats on the back for admitting something that we all know to be true. The correct response would be to ALSO tell us how he plans on righting this horrific trend within which he has been playing.
And Rouse can’t be any worse.

And I still think Eli has to make better decisions, which the plantar fasciitis issue has nothing to do with. He can do it as he’s done it before. Just don’t start out bombing unless someone is blatantly wide open.

We didn't even have a chance for the "perfect season", but we did have the perfect ending.

by GAgiantfan on Nov 6, 2009 5:32 PM EST reply actions  

+1

It would save the Giants Defence a lot of time if QBs just stayed down!

by ChuckyofNorris on Nov 6, 2009 5:36 PM EST up reply actions  

point taken...

but he could go with the Sheridan approach:

 “communication problems?? What communication problems”…“go ask the players, because it’s the first i’m hearing about it”

truth be told we knew what CC was…we just didn’t know he was THIS bad in coverage…and i can’t only hope it’s not the same with Rouse.

"If you don't know what you're doing... just rush the quarterback" - LT

by andiamo708 on Nov 6, 2009 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I dont like BJs comment

Taking what he’s given??? The Brandon Jacobs I know doesnt take what someone else gives, he just takes what he wants and anyone can TRY to stop him. That is why some people were saying that Bradshaw was the best, he creates opportunities, not just wait until one comes along.

It would save the Giants Defence a lot of time if QBs just stayed down!

by ChuckyofNorris on Nov 6, 2009 5:36 PM EST reply actions  

BJ

I agree. It appears he is attempting to be a finesse power back. An extremely difficult talent to achieve.

by Jolly on Nov 6, 2009 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

i read that different

I read that as he’s taking what the coaches are giving him and working with it. Which is absolutely the case.

by wilddre22 on Nov 6, 2009 11:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Fix the Problems

Everyone recognizes that there are problems. What is driving me crazy about this team is that its two or three steps behind in trying to fix them. Sure some can’t be fixed, like injuries, but the damage at least can be mitigated by making adjustments.

The failure to make such adjustments is proven by the score of the last three games. These weren’t just losses. Two were blow-outs and the other was a self-defeat.

The team seems in a fog. Sheridan’s comments yesterday were only one sign of this.

Hopefully they are better prepared this game. Hopefully they have a plan B available. Hopefully they watch the clock better.

by Deal With It on Nov 6, 2009 5:43 PM EST reply actions  

Kenny Phillips

I believe we are just beginning to see the TRUE value of Kenny Phillips. As stated earlier, Aaron Rouse is no “cover guy” either. If you doubt what I’m saying, watch the last game he played for Green Bay…good tackler, lousy cover guy! Kenny Phillips was not only a big hitter, he was becoming an excellent cover guy. As long as he is not there and the Giants have that anemic pass rush we’ve seen the last 3 or 4 weeks, be prepared for Phillip Rivers & Co. to do to the Giants what New Orleans, Arizona and Philly did! Beat them badly in the deep middle! Chargers 31, Giants 21!

by bubba23 on Nov 6, 2009 10:31 PM EST reply actions  

When Phil Simms speaks..

I listen…His thoughts on Eli’s foot problem are right on the money..and we have all seen it the past three weeks..As tough as Eli is..he is playing hurt and unlike Brown who isn’t hurt admitting to his poor play, Eli refuses to admit that his foot is causing mental mistakes as well as problems with his mechanics..His high throws have gotten even higher..There is no receiver on the planet that can catch that stuff he is tossing..Why have they gone to throwing the long ball when our QB is hurt?..Why are they letting Jacobs constantly try to break off to the outside when he can’t?..Where is our defensive line hiding?..and Rouse practiced with the first team?..Now we’ll have a guy who has not hardly played at all out there for Rivers to exploit…This has been a three week train wreck we have witnessed, going for four…It just boggles my mind..All that talent and no results..If Simms worked a Giants game he’d probably leave at half-time due to an upset stomach.

by Bobbiblue on Nov 7, 2009 2:54 AM EST reply actions  

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