New York Giants News and Notes: Thursday Edition

by Jim Schmiedeberg on Nov 5, 2009 9:15 AM EST in News Comment 22 comments

Now that baseball season has FINALLY come to an end, (November? Really? Great job MLB, why not just add
another 30 games to the already too long regular season, add another round of playoffs and play all year?) everyone's full focus will turn to football, and for those of you just joining us this season, welcome, and yes, the Giants have problems. Big problems.

So let's run down the latest news and notes this Thursday morning:

Tom Coughlin talked about how the Giants are getting back to the fundamentals. There is also some interesting stuff in there about the Giants leadership council, and how they are handling the slump the Giants are in.
Antonio Pierce spoke to Mike Garafolo yesterday, and says that as the leader on defense, he is the "biggest culprit" of everything that has gone wrong on defense. He says the Giants need to get back to flying around and playing defense as a team.
Also in the article above, Aaron Ross is targeting November 22^nd against the Falcons for his return to action.
Ralph Vacchiano says the Giants defense is getting healthier, and Chris Canty may be close to returning. Since the Yankees are the World Champions again, I am going to give Michael Boley a little advice from Yogi Berra, "It gets late early". Read Boley's comments on his urgency to return and you will see what I mean. Week 9, the season's not so young anymore, Mike.
Philip Rivers spoke with the media yesterday, and he recounted what Draft Day was like for him back in 2004.
On the Rivers-Manning thing, as I've scoured the nets reading up on some of the latest on the Bolts, I've found that Eli Manning hatred is still alive and well in San Diego. Some have been able to let go, but I saw some truly venomous statements about Eli that really surprised me. It might be time to let it go. As memory serves Charger fans, you guys did pretty well in that trade.
On the subject of that 2004 draft, the man who engineered it for the Giants is on the radar for the Cleveland Browns to come to the rescue and save their hapless franchise.

That's all for now. Congratulations to the New York Yankees on their 27^th World Series victory. Make sure you check out Ed's coverage over at Pinstripe Alley. Plus, don't forget we're talking Ranger puck all day long at Blueshirt Banter.

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Looks like TC's

not going to make any personnel changes. Even with spot duty, Canty and Boley should help the D. I really hopeful some of the BBV suggestions that are relatively easy to implement will be embraced. I hope Boley’s lack of a sense of urgency isn’t representative of how the team as a whole feels. I’m hoping for more fiery play this week.
I’m mildly confident the team will pull itself together Sunday and go into the bye week with a W. I’m insanely hopeful that will be the outcome.

by blue gonz on Nov 5, 2009 9:56 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Canty and Boley

Canty will be part of the rotation hopefully moving to a starting spot when he has some game experience with us under his belt since he is being well paid.

Boley will start as soon as he is healthy since that was his role before he got hurt.

by Ando81 on Nov 5, 2009 10:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

LOL

Aaron Pierce spoke to Mike Garafolo yesterday, and says that as the leader on defense, he is the “biggest culprit” of everything that has gone wrong on defense. He says the Giants need to get back to flying around and playing defense as a team

Well I don’t know who this Aaron Pierce is, but he isn’t making a good first impression

by Ando81 on Nov 5, 2009 10:40 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

yeah

no wonder this guy’s been stinking it up… he’s the evil twin brother of Antonio

You play to win the game!

by Simms-McConkey on Nov 5, 2009 10:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I have been calling him Aaron Pierce for years, its a mental block

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Nov 5, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

That Phillip Rivers interview is good stuff

I always thought he was kinda douchey, but he comes off pretty down to earth in that. Based on what I’ve heard from the Chargers fans (he still drives a minivan!) I’m starting to re-assess my opinion of him a bit. He doesn’t so much seem like a douche as a good guy who just wants to play football and not deal with all the other crap. I can respect that.

Still glad we got Eli, though.

"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09

by cjmulrain on Nov 5, 2009 11:06 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

yea...

I really think the douchiness was brought out by Jay Cutler…who, in fact…is a douche.

Rivers is a good dude.

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 5, 2009 11:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

funny stuff

Just like baseball invented OPS to rate hitters, maybe football should aggregate Passer rating, TD/INT ratio, and douche factor for a quarterback rating equivalent.

You play to win the game!

by Simms-McConkey on Nov 5, 2009 11:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I could imagine

what Ryan Leaf’s QB rating would look like, or if they’d go into negative numbers.

What about if your coach is a douche? Cuz as far as I’m concerned, whoever the Brown’s QB is would be a pro-bowler if their coaches DOUCHE factor wasn’t taking them down….

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 5, 2009 12:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Well as I said in an earlier post..

The criticism of Phillip Rivers is totally unfair..He is a great young man with a pure passion for the game of football..I have a football signed by him when I had the opportunity to meet him in his senior year at NC State..He is the real deal..He was married as a senior in college and has children…He is mature beyond his age and it shows in his game..Anyone who criticizes him needs a check up from the neck up..If our guys don’t figure out our mess on defense quickly he’ll kill us. I’m telling you all he’ll pick our guys apart..and he knows where to throw the ball..anywhere CC Brown is.

by Bobbiblue on Nov 5, 2009 12:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Curious as to your thoughts on Sunday?

W or L?

And any thoughts on Cowboys-Eagles?

by Bye, Dawk :( on Nov 5, 2009 12:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I know I'm hoping for a Giants win

do I expect it like I did a couple weeks ago? Hell no. But this could be a turning point (it could also be a mirage win…who knows…)

I think the team plays better tho. Especially if the get Boley and Canty back.

As for the Eagles Cowboys…I think I’m gonna have to go with the Eagles (tho I always root for a tie). Normally, I root for against the team that just beat the Giants…but the fact I just can’t root for the Cowboys..couple with the Yanks beating the Phillies..I can’t be mad at Philly right now :).

Plus..the Cowboys losing is always a nice consolation prize for Football weekend no matter what the Giants do.

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 5, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

couple with the Yanks beating the Phillies..I can’t be mad at Philly right now :)

Grrrrrrr….

by Bye, Dawk :( on Nov 5, 2009 1:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

can't be mad at ya...

nope.

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 6, 2009 12:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Cowboys-Eagles?

Personally, it’s always my rule that whenever the Cowboys play, they must lose regardless of who they play. Eagles 27, Cowboys 17!

by Hootman on Nov 5, 2009 1:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I've got Eagles

and so does our pool, 8-5

factor in the “angry about last week” votes and that’s a landslide. Was waffling, called my friend the biggest Cowboys homer in CT to ask his thoughts. As I asked him questions, I realized Philly is strong: DO the Boys have a very good secondary to deal with Jackson & Maclin? Good pass-covering LBs to follow Celek & Westbrook? etc…
The upshot: Mr. Cowboys said (a) the Eagles have owned the Cowboys for a decade, especially at the Linc; and (b) he’s only picking the Cowboys out of pure homerism, it does not look good.

You play to win the game!

by Simms-McConkey on Nov 5, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs