This is not just one game the giants have been playing like this for 6 games. Even our win last week felt like a loss because the defense stunk up the joint. No Excuses Broncos beat our butts and right now I don’t think we are as good as the Bronco’s because we have not been able to put it all together against a good team since week 2. This Bronco’s loss feels a lot like the Eagles loss, becasue we didn’t even compete.

What did Dallas ever do to Denver other than hand you a win?

and deserve the win. You had “the fire”, and though that can’t be measured as yards-per-catch can, it was obvious that you guys had “it”. We both needed the win and you guys just took it! BTW, I miss “grit”. You guys had it on both sides of the ball. Congrats!

This Giants team reminds me of Ron Dixon or Tim Carter in that, there seemed to be so much potential, so much room for achievement; what seemed so attainable is reallistically just flat out unreachable.

about the Giants making it out of the first round.

Does Jauron run a 4-3 or would he change us over to a 3-4? How about Charlie Weiss for Chuck and Duck Gillbride

We’ve caught whatever it is the Mets have contracted the past few seasons

but in 05 they were 5-3 to start and 6-2 to finish even in 04 they started 5-3 and finished 1-7. The entire TC era we’ve seen this

Because of the 07 run this fact gets ignored and understandably so but it is something that needs to be examined.

Is that last year with spags as DC, gilbride’s O was top 5 in scoring. KG needs scrutiny too, but we can win with him, its been proven. BS is just, well, bs.

My point in putting some heat on the coordinators is that to me, its too simplistic to blame just the players. Yes, they are the ones that go out and make plays or don’t, and that’s why we try to draft the best. But look at it like war for a second. When a country goes out to battle and loses, we don’t blame the soldiers. No, the history channel and such have made careers off of breaking down battle plans, where they succeded and where they failed. Generals have made careers off of finding that winning gameplan that allow us to reduce world leaders to hole hiders. They get the credit, and the blame for what they do.

Well, our generals are KG, BS, and TC. And this is a cerebral game we watch, to me the most cerebral. So its only right that the thinkers get some of the blame in this rapidly downward spiral of a season.

Whenever they’re predicted to do well they suck and whenever they are picked to be celler dwellers they’re really good.

In 2000 and in 2007 all the “experts” had them fnishing out of the playoffs, they made the Super Bowl. In 01, 03 and this year they were supposed to compete for an NFC title and they were 7-9, 4-12, and 6-5 so far but it does not look good.

as much as it is acknowledging what he has accomplished and how the team has responded to him over the years and believing he is a better option than what is currently available. They went from 6-10 to division champs in a year. He did hire Spags in 07 and changed his style a bit to get the players to respond and he deserves some credit for that. The GIants played loose and relaxed under him in the 07 playoffs yes they needed some luck to win that game but NE won 3 SB’s by a total of 9 points and they are a Donnovan McNabb stomach virus, John Carney kick out of bonce, and Kurt Warner pick from being the Buffalo Billis of the 2000s so luck plays a big roll in a lot of these games( I know Blue Gonz made that point not you but I wanted to address it). They went to the playoffs 4 straight years under him in a very competative division someting few teams have accomplished this decade. The Steelers have not even done that only the Colts, Pats, Seahawks and Eagles have this decade. Other than Bill Bellicheck he compares very well to to other head coaches both active and non active so unless Bellicheck is avaliable you’d be risking a lot by getting rid of him. Put yourself in the shoes of the GM. You would really be risking your reputation and maybe your job if you fired a coach with that kind of resume becasue of one 7-9 or 8-8 season. How do you know the next guy would be as good? It could also prevent you from getting a good coach becasue they would be afraid of getting fired the first sign of trouble kinda like the problem they have down in DC. Pittsburg stuck with Cowher from 98 to 2001 when they had 3 straight lossing seasons. The Giants did not fire Parcells becasue he missed the playoffs in 87 and 88 after he won a SB. I’m not saying the Giants do that with TC if that happens but you just can’t get rid of a coach who’s had success everywhere he’s been becasue of one bad season.

The other thing is who is that much better than TC out there. You’d be taking to big of a risk with a young unproven assistant. Bill Cowher is the only option that might be better but remeber he lost a LOT of home playoff games when his teams were big faviorites and he typically got really tight and conservative in those games and outchoached. I also remeber him following up his Super Bowl Championship season with a 8-8 finish. John Gurden, I don’t think he’s better than TC. His teams were inconisitant in Tampa and collopased horribly last year down the streatch. TC has some wierd tendencies but I’m sure you would not be happy when Gurden decides to keep 5 QB’s on the active roster because well he likes to have a lot of QB’s. Shannahan it’s been a while since he’s won SB’s. His teams were very inconsistant after Elway, they never had a good D and in fact he was fired because the owner asked him to fire the D-Coordinator after there typicall late season collapse last year and he refused. I know you’ve killed TC for being to loyal to his coordinators but thats what did Shanahan in. Holmgren, sure you can make an argument for him but he struggled mightly from 2000-2003 in Seattle and was so bad they took away his GM title becasue he could not handle it while coaching. I’m not saying these guys are not very good coaches but they’ve sturggled just as much as TC has and it’s debatable that they are better carrer coaches than TC.

I’m not saying I don’t agree with some of what your saying. Your point about not adjusting since the Plax thing is a very good point. They’ve also always seem to fade late in the year with TC while they peak in late October. Yea he hired Spags but he also hired John Huffnegal and Tim Lewis originally to be their O and D coordiantors. The Sheridan hiring is not looking like a great hire right now. So your points are well taken but you have to acknowledge that the positives have outwieghed the negatives in his tenure and so does JR when he evalulates his coach at the end of the year.

One last thing. I wanted to ask you and I’m not asking to be a wise guy but becasue I just joined this blog a year ago and I’ve notice you’ve been very critical of TC all year even when they were winning. Did you feel the same way in 06 and 07 in regards to firing him? Were you against hiring him in 04? I’m just asking becasue I know there are some fans & media that hated the hire from day one and have jumped on him hard when he’s struggled.

to rush the QB as if he were going to actually get a sack; we also lost his ability to stop the run. He was pretty masterful at both. Usually when a speaker can back up his words with actions (as Strahan could) it meant something. Otherwise the speaker should drink a pot or two of coffee, stand at the top of Niagara Falls, and empty his kidneys – while hoping the wind doesn’t suddenly change directions.

Its always a better conversation with intelligent fans of other teams.