Right on, Ed.. The line is letting us down. I do have to give Jacobs some blame as when there is a hole, he’s not running with the same authority. You can also watch him hit the hole and then start going east/west. Last night was all on the players. The only fire in the belly came from that sideline outburst. It’s almost like they’re tired of football or something.

I used to make fun of his fuming and sputtering on the sideline, now I’m criticizing his apathy. Ed, my preferences in the draft to trade up for a monster LT and Safety look pretty good now, although it’s no fun to turn out to have apparently been right.

Since starting 10-1 last season and ignoring 4 win vs JV teams in Skins, Bucs, Raiders and Chiefs the Giants are 3-9 in their last 12. TERRIBLE!

Coming into last nights game since week 6 the Giants are dead last in points allowed at 32.8. Two points more than the Bucs.

I am not as upset as I thought I would be, becuase I have come to the realization that this team is just not very good and this year just is not our year. Yes Last night was on the players but here is why I think we need to change the coaching staff besides TC obviously.
1. The giants are getting blown out, and they are not just getting blown out by great teams they are not even in games with teams they should be able to compete with. Thats motivation, plain and simple and that is the coaches job, if the players out there are not preforming or playing inspired the coaches need to find another guy on the team that is. What I see is we just put the same guys out there no matter what. Everybody keeps complaining about Osi but what happend to kiwi this season? How come Rocky Benard is out on the field when he has done absolutly nothing execpt let the opposing team run over him. Why does Danny Clark still start? at this point you can’t tell me he is doing enought to keep Kiel on the bench.
2. You can’t fire all of the players, like it or not most of these guys will be here next year. somthing has to change and since you can’t scrap the whole team the coordinator’s have to fall, maybe a new voice is what is needed.
3. Besides the players playing bad, the play calling this year is predictible on both sides of the ball. Last night was a perfect example of what a real DC can do. Denver’s D is by no means a great D, So Nolan comes up with a game plan to shut our offense down despite our size advantage. WHEN HAS Sheridan ever come up with an unexpected game plan that totally shuts down the other teams offense. All he does is trot the same players (no matter how bad they are playing) out there no creative new blitz, no coverage scheme for a particular team just your plain old vanilla Giants D.
4. We lost Plaxico One year ago. How come Gilbrides offense has NO SOLUTION for 8 men in the box. Our pass plays take to long to set up. Defenses have been playing us the same for over a year, and yet I see nothing from the Giants O that shows me they know how to play against a stacked box NOTHING!
5. ACCOUNTIBILITY Sombody has to take the fall for this, and since the coaches are not holding the players accountable for this kind of effort time to hold the coaches. Yes I know the coaches don’t make reeds, can’t takle, don’t take dumb penalities but when your team keeps making the same mistakes over and over again, you have to hold the coaches accountable for this mess!

Cowher is out there. Think these players would underperform for him?

 TC is responsible first and foremost for motivating talented players to play. I have never been a big TC fan and it seems time for him to move on. Most of his coaches too.

There is talent on this team. They should be playing better. For this much talent to play this badly is embarrassing.

See what you have for next year. Play some young guys on the OL and at LB.

But we are stuck with Manning. Mr Inconsistent. Next year Carr will be gone and there is no replacement being groomed. GMen need defense and a running game to take pressure off Eli.

It is not there.

Hey guys, another fan from england here and I was unfortunate enough to sit up half the night watching the game – at least until Stokley scored…

I think as so many of you point out it’s evident that right now this team is getting both out-coached and out-played. If you look at some of the schemes Denver were running on defense they were getting pressure on Eli with only 3 linemen! (although often looking like they were ready to send the house) They were dropping middle linebackers to like Safeties, getting home (or very nearly for what would have been a safety) on corner blitzes, etc. Where is the creativity on the Giants D for doing similar things? And where is the passion? Dumervil is a tiny little guy (by NFL standards) but the guy does not know when to quit and was doing a pretty good job of making our O-line look soft…

And on offence why are we not seeing more of Nicks? Surely this guy should be on the field instead of Hixon? Let Hixon concentrate on his kick/punt returns to at least try and get that part of STs moving in the right direction…

Missed opportunities – we seem to have a few of these right now (i.e. 1st and goal from the 4 in the SD game and settling for the FG which effectively would lose us the game). Where is the urgency/ability to seize some momentum back when you get that interception early in the 2nd half?? The offence has to step up at that point…and I’m sure people want to blame Eli and say he’s not a leader, etc, etc but how can he do anything when the ground game goes nowhere and he has no time to set himself?

Things just get harder and harder to watch right now, but I hope the players and coaches go away from this game watch some film and take a lesson from the way Denver played the game – for all the bad things we did they pretty much executed flawlessly (bar the interception)…

Tough days for Giants fans these but I agree with Jersey lets get the young guys in and see if the likes of Barden, Goff, Sintim, etc can play – right now what has this team got to lose??

The o-line is not getting any push in the runing game and sheridan is a horrible defensive coordinator they need to replace him sooner than later preferably by next weeks game. This season is probably done. I think they should replace Sharidan and sign a shutdown corner in the offseason in order to give the d-line a secon or two to get a sack. This team is done. there is so many things they dont do well its not even funny

I have been disappointed by Brandon’s play this year, but I think we need to revamp the O line. They are not opening any holes for Brandon to get through, on top of that they are doing a so so pass protection job for Eli. Plus with no Bradshaw there is no change of pace. Ware not sure about him yet

 you know it’s a bad game when Tynes is one of the only players who had a good game.

The defense is just horrible. The Giants always had a good defense. This year they look confused and i think sharidan is the problem. we need an upbeat guy for that job not some laid back sissy boy like sharidan who is afraid to dial up blitzes. No Defense=no playoffs. Its very simple.

The Giants are a talented team with the mindset of an awful team. Their body language is disgusting to watch. Eli looks like a little child lost out there and he falls away from all of his throws. The schemes on defense are pitiful. There is no pass rush and the secondary runs zig zags around each other all night as if they don’t know their assignments. We have the talent, there just isn’t much discipline. And it’s not like these problems just crept up. The game in Dallas was an awful def performance, the offense just bailed them out, but I think we all know that Eli is like Jekyl and Hyde. There are mental issues more than anything, we have to remove the doubt that is running thru this whole team, but unfortunately, that probably won’t happen until the offseason. It is painful watching them as a Giants fan, but we know this happens every few years. New York is a great organization and we will be back, it is just a rough stretch of road right now.

I was gonna go to the cowboy game but forget it. Im not going to see them get destroyed by the cowboys next week. They dont play with motivation so f them.

I haven’t kept track of when Hix is in, etc., but I take your word for it.

Hey there is one positive to take out of this. If you play Fantasy football and have a player going against the GIANTS defense you will probably kill the other team. lol. What a joke. i cant believe osi said that they are a good team. Was he even on the field on Thursday? i didnt hear his name once. Is he still injured? does he have a sack this year? He must of been in lala land last few weeks cause its obvious that he didnt see the games.

What does it say that our three best players right now, Nicks, Boley, and Rouse, were not even on the team last year? Osi is going to set a record for fewest tackles per snap played. I would rather see Kiwi start and play a full game. And do you think by the next game the secondary will figure out how to cover receivers crossing at the line of scrimmage? The players are awful, but the coaches do nothing to fix it. Our blitzes are failures every week. When we blitz we play zone, which we are not good at.

We can cut Bernard and Canty, and find some fool to trade for Osi, that would free up $17 million to get some help next year. The game is all about money now. Even if Osi and Canty become decent players, is decent worth $7mil?

Good, not great. Hey, I remember when many of us fans wanted run ol’ Phil out of town, tar and feathered and on a rail. The passage of time has a habit of smoothing over rough edges. Remember: Phil Simms threw more ints 22, to tds 21 in 86, his 8th season. He was God awful on more than his share of days, brilliant on others (sound like someone?) What did he have: great D, Joe Morris and a great TE. Looking at his stats alone, Phil didn’t dip a toe into elite QB status until 1990 — 12 seasons in. 1993 was, statistically, his most solid year, and it was, sadly, his last. Eli has the tools and, I think, will continue to be more than serviceable over the long haul — but he needs help, just like Simms did. Right now, there is no help. No running game. No O-Line. And a the whisper of a rumor of a ghost of defense. Eli has Wrs. But he doesn’t have the time, or the running to take the pressure off, to use them to maximum potential. This team peaked too early, and in a very odd and unorthodox, flukey way. And now it’s on a downward spiral, unable to emotionally deal because they really did believe they were better than they had any right to think they were. Nut up, Giants. Make the touch decisions. The person really on the hot seat now isn’t TC or the players (though they are), It’s Reese. We’ll really see what level his football acumen resides at, and if 2007 was a rookie fluke. Tough, dark days ahead, but from darkness comes light, as well as open Sundays. Be well all.

Phils Simms was a lot better QB than people give him credit, in fact statistically he blows troy aikman out of the water and he never played with a HOF reciever. If Eli can get to Phil’s level of conistancy that would be a good thing.

I think we should get a shutdown corner in the offseason in order to give the d-line a second or two to make some more sacks. Our coverage sucks

Question for all the long time Giants fans, does anybody remember a season like this one? Are we really this bad, becuase it looks like we need to blow up the roster and start over again. We are still in the playoff hunt yet it feels like we are a 1 win team.
How about some ideas to improve this team for the remaining 5 games and into next season.

There is a reason former coaches have said NFL stands for not for long. Drafting late year after year takes its toll. The current Giants are just not good enough.
      An average running back, Derrick Ward, could run for a 1,000 yards behind this line last year but they are a year older and, maybe, playing hurt. At any rate, BJ has no chance to get up a head of steam and take advantage of his size and momentum. Eli is a very good qb if the run fakes work and a good run game negates the rush to some degree. Reduced to a pass first qb, he is not. The receivers are good but still learning and Manningham and Smith are fairly small for the NFL. The D line is getting no pressure and cannot stop the run, hence the poor stats. Coaching cannot compensate for talent and this team needs a major revamping. Two new linebackers, two new defensive linemen and two or three new offensive linemen. They will be drafting much earlier, it seems, and that, with free agency, will give them a chance to be better next year.

This has the same makeup of his Jacksonville teams…. He started out well,went to the AFC Championship games twice had a good team coming back from the last Afc Championship in 1999 then he never won more than 6 games the three years after and quite frankly they haven’t recovered since then really, I mean Del Rio has been good but the talent that was locked in under TC wasn’t that good. I’m not calling for his head and I give him his due for winning the superbowl but it starts at the top!

As for Sheridan, look I hated this hire from the start mainly because he is very low key, non vocal, not alot of energy on the sideline. Spags was in the players face and giving a high five but Sheridan just stands there like hurry up game be over I have things to do.

I agree most of the fault goes on the players here and tyhe injuries, but schemes don’t seem to be right and the players don’t really seem to know who is doing what and that falls with the HC first then the Coord.

of these same players will be back next year and after!!!

I am not letting anybody off the hook..The Coaches are being out-coached and the players are being out-played..period..Now we get an extra few days of the bullshit they’ll spew leading up to the Dallas game..Mike Nolan looked like he was ordering off of an Ala-Carte menu..Our team is so telegraphed it is pathetic..Nobody is going to convince me that our players all of a sudden lack talent..They lack passion and intensity. They have lost that “in your face” approach and “dare me” approach..Coughlin needs to have a come to Jesus meeting with everybody on that team, coaches and players…The only huge weakness is the DTs..they are horrible..and Jacobs does not necessarily needs a hole right off the bat, he needs to create them by punishing whoever is in front of him then the holes will open up..I am tired of his weekly bullshit commentary, along with the rest of them.

On another note how about some offseason thoughts here.

Kevin Gillbride fired and replaced by Charlie Weiss?

Any thoughts

JR would have done it already. Besides even if we had the second coming of Reggie White sheridan would have him covering the flat

This was suppose to be a Super Bowl contending team, what the hell happened. That game made me and every Giants fan sick to my stomach, there awful and as far as Im concerned are not a playoff team, something needs to change, whats the difference from last year, the OL/DL are the same so it must me the coordinators, For god sakes sheridan blitz once in awhile, whats the worst that can happen, you can’t play any worse, If I see CC Brown out there one more time I’m going to destroy my tv, the guy is a liability every minute he’s on the field. I miss Steve Spagnola

The fact is ELY always try to be perfect in reading defenses , because of that coordinators is taking advantage of that by disguises their blitzes , that really confuses ELI therefore he is taking too long changing the plays by doing that also confusing the offensive line , that’s why they are having such a hard time protecting him also run blocking ..

Okay I might agree with that but on every play the OL is being pushed back 5 yards so confusion is not an excuse for not being physical.

The reason they being pushed back 5 yards is because they are on their hills they don’t see where the blitzes are coming from.

Maybe next year will be better, the hopes of this team making the playoffs is slim to none

Some of the last blogs seemed to presume that problem was motivation, and that with either superstars or more inspirational coaches, problem could be solved.

Lets not fool ourselves. Earlier blogs absolutely correct. Team is getting outplayed AND outcoached. Front office believed too much in its own hype. Team lacks depth and injuries have therefore been cripling.

Defense has problems everywhere. OL is a big problem. Neither can be fixed with one or two personnel changes.

Eli may not be the greatest whoever played, but he is producing and relative to defense, running game and coaching, he and receivers, despite drops and overthrows, have been only bright spot in this year’s debacle. Remember O’s place in overall Giant’s strategy.

I agree that players have not been executing or playing with any fire. But I still don’t see any real adjustments or innovation by coaching staff. After going 1 and 6 during last eight weeks (including bye) this seems to be beyond them. Granted, not a whole lot of reason to believe that either D or O could execute such changes, but to continue on, week after week, with obviously ineffective game playing/strategy, isn’t sane.

I think CC Brown deserved a kudos.

He had to go back in because Michael Johnson was injured, and he didn’t suck like we’ve seen him suck.

He didn’t give up on that kick where the denver guy could have easily gone all the way if it wasn’t for him.

CC played like a football player last night. Something we can’t say about the rest of the team

I agree CC wasn’t that bad compare to how horrible he’s been , also kudos to the old man Feagles .