Bonus Giants notes: Boley, Pierce, Blackburn

by Ed Valentine on Nov 25, 2009 12:44 PM EST in News Comment 54 comments

Since it is almost Thanksgiving, and I am seemingly in a giving mood, here are a handful of leftover New York Giants notes for your Wednesday afternoon.

Antonio Pierce is in Los Angeles to get a second opinion on the bulging disc in his neck. I can't imagine that is because he distrusts the Giants doctors. I don't blame him for seeking more information -- this type of injury could be one that threatens his career.
Mathias Kiwanuka has a great, very comforting, quote recently about Chase Blackburn.

"He’s probably one of the most underrated players in the league," Kiwanuka said. "Yeah, obviously we miss having Antonio out there. He’s a great leader and a big part of this team. But Chase Blackburn studies. He knows every position on the field. He probably knows every special-teams position as well. We have full confidence in him."
Patricia Traina has a great piece on backup linebacker Bryan Kehl's work as a Mormon missionary. It's great stuff, and it also left me thinking it's no wonder that Kehl's biggest weakness as a football player seems to be lack of on-field aggression. It's just not part of his nature.
Michael Boley was named NFC Defensive Player of the Week.
No cheerleader photo tomorrow. Kind of inappropriate on Thanksgiving, I think. If you must have a helping of Denver Bronco cheerleaders, though, I know where you can find one.

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Bradshaw out

Just reported on nfl.com Bradshaw has been ruled out against the Broncos

by greg a on Nov 25, 2009 12:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

He injured his OTHER ankle. Yikes!

by potroast on Nov 25, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

why don’t they put him on IR, so he can get his injuries taken care of, recuperate and come back healthy next year. the bad foot and ankles can lead to further injuries of both knees. At least we’ll see what Ware can do. I have great expectations of him.

by blue gonz on Nov 25, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

No

You may need him for the playoffs. They should have rested him coming out of the bye though,.

by DoctorK16 on Nov 25, 2009 11:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

That makes sense,

especially in he short run. I’m thinking of what’s best for him and the team in the long run. Then again, I don’t know his prognosis. Based on what has happened so far, it looks risky to have him play again this season. Is it worth the risk? Anyway, I’m sure they won;t put him on IR. I hope it works out.

by blue gonz on Nov 26, 2009 8:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

similar to the AP injury Bradshaw injury can be a blessing. TC often seems reluctant to trust his young inexperienced players. This forces the Giants to give significant playing time to Ware.

by FrankB0318 on Nov 25, 2009 3:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Except for the fact that

we need Bradshaw I agree..We’ll see what Ware can do handling ABs workload..I have grown to get a little leary about listening to Brandon saying anything about his health..He’s the kind of player that will show up in a body cast and tell you he is just dandy..

by Bobbiblue on Nov 25, 2009 6:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

That is not god news..at all

Blue…sounds more and more closer to a term you and I both know…“Flaming out”

by Bobbiblue on Nov 25, 2009 7:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

damn...

Well, its really not like he was killing em out there…..

I wanted to see more Ware anyway.

Kind of a good thing I guess. We all knew AB was injured…I guess it had to be a DIFFERENT injury altogether for them to take him out?

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 26, 2009 12:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Danny Ware

It’s time for Danny boy to step up. Let’s see what he does with this opportunity. Before the Atlanta game, Gilbride talked a lot about using Ware on third down, but he was hardly used.

Ware did have that great blitz pick up where he crossed from right to left in front of Eli to make a block which probably saved Eli from either getting sacked or scrambling and being forced to throw the ball away. Besides that play, he only had 2 carries. DW will have to get more carries against Denver, unless they just abandon the run. Lets see how much they trust sticking him in there on passing downs.

LET'S GO G-MEN

by I_Formation27 on Nov 25, 2009 1:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Danny Boy?

The Giants are going to Colorado (where it snows alot) and i was wondering what hotel they’re staying at, or is it in an isolated area?

If Ware stays in room 237, bad things can happen. Consider the Broncos as twins, just run away from them, as fast as you can! They (the Broncos) don’t want to hurt you, they just want to bash your brains in! lol

by Hootman on Nov 25, 2009 2:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

It's frustrating

each week we hear from the coaches that some of the younger players will get some playing time. Then come game time it doesn’t happen. IMO TC’s biggest flaw is his lack of faith in younger players. In 2007 he let many of the rookies play. All seemed to flourish when given the chance.

by FrankB0318 on Nov 25, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Ed, you sly fox !!

by njgiant on Nov 25, 2009 1:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

If nj you are referring to a cheerleader pic..

I have had enough for one week..I got G Fan ticked off because apparently my American English jokes didn’t line up with his English English translations..I apologized and we got it all squared away..Now if Ed decides to post a stuffed Turkey in a cheerleaders uniform I’ll eat…(Breaks squealing)..oh damn it there I go again..haha

by Bobbiblue on Nov 25, 2009 7:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

your comments

are offensive in american english too.

by cntrlalt on Nov 25, 2009 7:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I apologize cntrlalt....

Just fooling around..geez are we all that uptight that we can’t play around a little bit?..You’ll get far worse from the comedy channel or HBO..Lighten up..for God’s sake.

by Bobbiblue on Nov 25, 2009 7:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

meh

you can be funny without being crass. its all about audience, you go to HBO and watch something because you’re expecting it and want to see or hear it.

this is a site about football and intelligent football discussion, we don’t need to hear crass metaphors everytime a cheerleader pic goes up. i’ll go to HBO and watch louie CK if i want dick jokes.

by cntrlalt on Nov 25, 2009 8:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Well I must say I

Respect your opinion..I don’t know what MEH means but If you read thru this site you’ll quickly note that 99.999% of my comments concern football..If you met me you’d know immediatley that I am not ‘crass’..and you’d learn that I also coach and teach little league baseball and pop-warner football and have done that for years with the exception of being deployed here and there..I have also taught Iraqi kids how to play on my off time..between sorties..So take my jokes with a grain of salt or ignore them entirely..I don’t intentionally insult anyone..and I am certainly not ‘crass’..I tend to interject a little humor when things in life seem to be getting a bit tense..Football to me as much as I love it is just a game bottomline..Things I have been through were not a game at all..So, If I pissed you off I apologize , but I am going to stick with my American version of English..Until Ed decides in BBVs best interest to throw me off the site…Until that happens I’ll fool around a little here and there and I’ll throw or attempt to throw in a little humor every now and then…just to lighten things up, never to insult someone…

by Bobbiblue on Nov 25, 2009 8:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Gee

I did not mean to stir up a hornet’s nest.

I think the issue is someting said face to face in a conversation takes on a different meaning when someone reads it cold on this blog.

by G Fan in England on Nov 26, 2009 6:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

G Fan..You didn't stir up a hornets nest..

by Bobbiblue on Nov 26, 2009 10:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

im very crass

I’m mad I missed the comment. Keep up the good work bobbi.

by wilddre22 on Nov 26, 2009 8:54 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

what is the point of posting cheerleader pics

if you cant make crass comments?

furthermore, what is the point of posting cheerleader pics period? can you not find pics of attractive women on the internet anywhere else?

i vote for eliminating cheerleader pics altogether and focus on football or keep them and make even more crass comments. i really cant think of anything more boring than clothed women on the internet followed by zero crass comments.

Lets hope that when gut check time comes again the Mets will pass it with flying colors.

by kendynamo on Nov 26, 2009 5:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I've never commented on the cheerleader pics.

Nothing wrong with the pics themselves, but the comments have been to a great extent adolescent, sexist and tasteless, displaying a mind set that treats women as objects. I know that’s an unpopular opinion, but there it is and it’s my last word on them. I stopped reading the weekly round of stodgy japery they elicit, so they in no way diminish my enjoyment in participating in BBV.

by blue gonz on Nov 26, 2009 11:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree with you blue

by G Fan in England on Nov 27, 2009 7:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

yeah thats cool

different strokes. stodgy japery never bothered me a bit. i just dont understand why you have any cheerleader pics at all. just having them invites tasteless objectification. it seems silly and pointless to me. and as i keep saying, its the internet, i dont need to go to a giants blog to see hot babes. i come here to read about the g-men and its what this blog excels at and what IMHO they should stick to. putting cheerleader pics up just asks for trouble. why bother trying to find the line between respectable admiration of the female form and sexism? just dont bother. well thats my 2 cents.

Lets hope that when gut check time comes again the Mets will pass it with flying colors.

by kendynamo on Nov 27, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Despite my promise that i've said my last word

+1, ken

by blue gonz on Nov 27, 2009 6:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

whats so wrong about cheerleaders on thanksgiving.

im very thankful for cheerleaders.

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Nov 25, 2009 2:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I share Kiwi's opinion of Chase

and firmly believe although he may not) that the Giants are stronger with him at MLB (I know that’s a distinctly minor if not sole opinion among BBVers.)

by blue gonz on Nov 25, 2009 4:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I agree

As good as AP was it does appear time to move on.

If in any of the remaining dames we get a chance I would like to see Goff get some playing time at MLB

by G Fan in England on Nov 25, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Hey G Fan..hahaha!!!

You said “dames”..I caught you…Another English cultural thing here..and I am only kidding..Please don’t take offense..I am laughing..Thanks for that..Bob

by Bobbiblue on Nov 25, 2009 7:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I need spell check

on this site!

Thanks for pointing out my lack of typing and proof reading skills!

by G Fan in England on Nov 26, 2009 6:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I'd say don't worry about it,

but I did that once and DID stir up a hornet’s nest.

by blue gonz on Nov 26, 2009 8:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Boley

He deserved the accolade despite TG’s receptions. Here’s hoping hge’ll keep it up. He has the talent. Time for Canty and Rocky to show us something. I have high hopes for the D to stabilize. If it does, dare I say it, we’ll make to the playoffs one way or another. After that, anything can happen. Compare where the Giants are this year to the last two Giants’ SB teams at a comparable time of the season. That should pump up the gloomiest among us.

by blue gonz on Nov 25, 2009 4:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Kiwi On Blackburn

What is Kiwi supposed to say? “Chase blows and we can’t wait to get somebody else out there,”? There was nothing said about Blackburn’s speed, quickness, tackling, or strength. Only that Blackburn was a hard worker. Hard work is necessary, but so is talent…

by Aceholioo on Nov 25, 2009 4:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Ace..I think your being

A little hard on Blackburn..Let’s give him a chance..Kiwi nor anyone else would rain down accolades if they were not deserving..He simply would have been polite and non-contraversial in his comments..There is something they see in him that is worth giving the guy a shot..and I caution all you guys..don’t listen word for word to these pot-bellied cigar smoking blowhard analysts and their dumb-ass statistics..I watch the players play the game and formulate my own opinions..and I take much more stock in what you guys have to say then I do them..I don’t always agree with you all, but it does give me food for thought..Ernie and Garafolo are Giant beat writers, so I read what they say with respect, but that’s as far as I go with these statistical geniouses. We know more about our teams problems than those bozos do…because we watch them closely every week..Some of us for years..47 years for me and there are alot of other guys out here that have watched as long as I have or more..

by Bobbiblue on Nov 25, 2009 6:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Right about Kiwi.

He went out of his way to heap praise on Blackburn. Maybe he isn’t the Giants’ MLB of the future, but I do believe still that he offers more of a physical presence than AP did and it appears he has a good handle on calling signals as well.

by blue gonz on Nov 25, 2009 7:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

By the Way

I sure hopes Blackburn proves me wrong, or that Goff comes out and does a great job…

by Aceholioo on Nov 25, 2009 4:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Boley

is the best free agent pickup the Giants made, who would have thought that before the season? Hope he can stay healthy and hope our other FA’s get their acts together before its too late.

by BigBlueCrew_jfl on Nov 25, 2009 5:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Anthony Scirrotto!!

Was just going to ask if anyone knew anything about the Safety just signed to the Practice Squad, but I see that there is already a Wikipedia page on the guy – Anthony Paul Scirrotto . Makes for some interesting reading.

He was like a god walking amongst mere mortals. He had a voice that could make a wolverine purr and suits so fine they made Sinatra look like a hobo.

by Johannus on Nov 25, 2009 6:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Right

Intriguing. The guys an all-around athlete, kick returner, etc.

by blue gonz on Nov 25, 2009 7:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Hmmm..That sounds like some potential..

Any news on why the Panthers let him go?

by Bobbiblue on Nov 25, 2009 6:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

No.

Looks like he was a straight swap out. They cut Michael Coe, another DB. I was just surprised that there was so much info available about an undrafted free agent … maybe he maintains his own Wikipedia page. If he doesn’t work out he could go down the road and try out for the Yankees.

He was like a god walking amongst mere mortals. He had a voice that could make a wolverine purr and suits so fine they made Sinatra look like a hobo.

by Johannus on Nov 25, 2009 7:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

In fact ...

Coe has been signed onto the Jags roster, so there was a space.

He was like a god walking amongst mere mortals. He had a voice that could make a wolverine purr and suits so fine they made Sinatra look like a hobo.

by Johannus on Nov 25, 2009 7:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Ross returns

Coe was the cover if Ross did not return from injury, as he has there is more need of an extra Safety on the Practice squad than a CB.

So the move makes sense.

Does anyone disagree that CC Brown will not be resigned in the offseason and is unlikely to play in the NFL again after he has been shown up on national TV several times this season.

by G Fan in England on Nov 26, 2009 6:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Bryan Kehl

Re your comment about Kehl’s lack of aggressiveness. I was fascinated by the article on his work as a missionary and his concern for other people, and your conclusion that it relates to or explains his lack of aggressiveness on the field.
First, I don’t see a necessary connection between the two. Players like Marvin Philip, Vai Sikahema, Brady Poppinga, and John Tate have been Mormon missionaries.
Second, if being a caring person who wants to serve other people conflicts with being an effective football player, then maybe it’s football that should change.

Mickey C

by Mickey C on Nov 25, 2009 7:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

+1 Mickey C

by Bobbiblue on Nov 25, 2009 7:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

steve young

is also mormon and went to BYU, i’m not 100% but i think that going on a mormon mission is required for schools like that.

by cntrlalt on Nov 25, 2009 7:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Gene Fullmer

was a Mormon missionary, ex middleweight champ and a wild man in the ring a brawler w/o a punch.).

by blue gonz on Nov 25, 2009 7:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Kehl

In the grand scheme of things being a terrific, caring person who helps people is a whole lot more important than being a football player. No argument here.

by Ed Valentine on Nov 26, 2009 8:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Right on, Ed,

but re Mormon pacifism, take a look at Mormon history—they’re about as far from pacifists as you can get. E.g. (for light reading) see Mailer’s, THE EXECUTIONER’S SONG re Gary Gilmore or Mikal Gilmore’s, SHOT THROUGH THE HEART, a bio of his older bro, Gary. Both books get into the Mormon’s blood-drenched history ( Zane Gray’s, RIDERS OF THE PURPLE SAGE is another one.)

by blue gonz on Nov 26, 2009 8:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Saw Kehl up close in the autograph line at camp ...

with my kid, and he does seem TOO nice. Maybe that scuffle he got into in camp was instigated to see if he can really bring the emotion.

Reminded me of Jim Files, one of our best MLB’s ever, from the early ’70’s. Looked like a superstar in the making, but quit after 4 seasons, and I don’t think it was injury related, but something to do with religious beliefs. Anyone remember his reasons for walking away ?

by Shofner85 on Nov 26, 2009 10:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I think the fact that we have guys like this..

Is what makes this game so great..We can’t equate the good deeds these players do off the field with a lack of toughness on the field..look at Ali too..As we progress thru life there are two kinds of folks we run across and I sum them up or catagorize them as “Heros” and “Zeros”..We tend to only hear about the “Zeros” in the news because that’s what sells newspapers..Guys like Diehl and Ali, Young, Flutie, on and on and on..They are the folks we should have our kids watching…I’m no hero in my mind, but I am going to deliver Thanksgiving dinners to the elderly from 11am – 4pm..When I get home I won’t care if my dinner is cold. I’ve done it for four years and counting..Also, Our kids get a gift at Christmas but we all work together to sponsor a needy family’s Christmas..We bring the Tree, decorations and presents..there is no better joy than seeing the smiles on kids faces who would otherwise have no Christmas, as well as the smiles my kids have..they truly enjoy it..more than if they had a thousand presents waiting under our tree for them.

by Bobbiblue on Nov 25, 2009 8:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

What I would love to see

Since Jacobs is not a between the tackles runner… why not find a way to get Gatrell in there to pound the ball up the middle as a goal line situational back? Is he still on the team? Would he work (even as a decoy) in that scenario? Or would that be too offensive to Jacobs feelings (or some such thing)?

by brisulph on Nov 26, 2009 7:55 AM EST reply actions 0 recs