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Ernie P. time comes early this week

With the short week, Ernie Palladino and I traded answers to a common set of questions a couple of days early. Here are Ernie's answers to this week's questions. My answers, of course, can be found at Ernie's Giants Beat.

1. So, you ready to launch Lawrence Tynes yet, or at least after Thanksgiving?
 
Ernie's Answer: I don't know. I honestly don't know. This guy's got me so torn. The kickoffs are short. He's 50-50 to make the chip shots, and then he wins you a game. Sunday's 36-yarder made two game-winning field goals for him this year (remember Dallas?). So one part of me says, get rid of the guy. The other says the guys on the street are just as inconsistent. That's why they don't have jobs in the first place. So, I'll fall back on the same old song I've been singing since my people started crying for his head after that first short miss against the Cowboys: Until he costs you a game outright, you have to stick with him. But if I were Tom Coughlin, I'd be perusing that short list awful closely the rest of the season.
 
2. Did the Giants turn the corner with their overtime win against Atlanta?
 
Ernie's Answer: No. They just dodged a bullet. They've got to show me they can win consecutive games before I start believing they've truly turned things around, either on the offense or the defense. In fact, the way this defense has played the last two games, they should be 5-5 right now. Couldn't stop a thing in the second half against Atlanta, and that late, winning touchdown against San Diego was disgraceful regardless of how questionable Bill Sheridan's playcalling was. There comes a point where a player needs to make a play despite the Xs and Os of the situation, and the Giants aren't doing that. Offensively, I guess you can say Eli Manning has come around. He's had two nice games in a row, so let's not blame the Giants' troubles on him. But the fact is they're still not running the ball enough. And if they keep forcing Eli to rely on the deep throw, they could be in for more trouble. Beat Denver, and then we'll talk about corners and busting up the league.
 
3. Though Chase Blackburn did a credible job filling in for Antonio Pierce at MLB, is he a long-term answer there?
 
Ernie's Answer: Oddly enough, he might be. The guys in the locker room talk about him with a lot of reverence, regarding him as a grossly underrated player. They like his motor, say he's always prepared, studies the game, and they love his aggressiveness. Remind you of a younger version of somebody else? No. Not me. I didn't say anything about looks. I'm thinking Antonio Pierce here. If Blackburn can stay healthy, I think he can serve as Pierce's successor very easily. And remember, we still don't know what Jonathan Goff can do. The coaches like his speed, and he's been tearing it up on specials this year. So between the two of them, the Giants may not have a pressing need at linebacker moving past this season. As for the rest of the current schedule, I was impressed with how Blackburn jumped in on short notice and did a decent job. I have no reason to believe he'll be anything but solid in the middle.
 
4. Now that Aaron Ross has taken some playing time at safety, would you start him there?
 
Ernie's Answer: I think that's the next step, but not yet. I'd like to see him play a whole half there against Denver in place of Aaron Rouse. See how he holds up there, and then start him against Dallas providing he's healthy and mobile enough. Ross didn't look bad at all in his work Sunday. He made four tackles in playing mostly in the fourth quarter. At that time, he was arguably the best defensive back on the field, given that Rouse was bouncing people around late and Bruce Johnson was chasing third receiving option around willy-nilly. Let's face it, the secondary needs help. Terrell Thomas and Corey Webster are their two best corners right now, deservedly so. So let Ross play some safety and, if he feels good enough, slip him in as a nickelback, since he has experience playing the slot receiver. He's got a whole season to make up for, so use him.

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AP in 2010?

I hope not. Not sure if Chase is the answer – Ernie seems to think yes – and do not know what Goff can do but AP should be replaced for 2010. Don’t care how valuable he is leadership wise – he cannot make enough plays.

Can we pleeze see what Goff can do before the end of the season??

Ross at safety makes sense tomorrow if he is an upgrade over Rouse. He is def better than BJ as nickle back and Dockery seems to have regressed so I expect to see Ross a bit.

Like most everyone on this board seems to agree – I just want to see some pressure from the DTs. Anybody. Please. Pressure the QB.

NYG 28
Denver 24

They play just good enough to win – like Atlanta.

by MSP Giant on Nov 25, 2009 11:53 AM EST reply actions  

By what Ernie said

About the players talking about Chase with reverence..Sounds like he’s won over the locker room and perhaps maybe is right around the bend to becoming a leader…We’ll know after he has a few games under his pads.

by Bobbiblue on Nov 25, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I like what Chase can bring.

He’s been out of position this year as a OLB.

He was a MLB filling in for AP in previous years..but was a bit inexperienced.

His path definitely mirrors AP’s too. Why not replace the man with a younger version?

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 26, 2009 12:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Right

Moving him to the middle makes both spots stronger.

by blue gonz on Nov 26, 2009 9:05 AM EST up reply actions  

i really want to see

what Ross can do for us at S. I agree w/ Ernie 100% on that one. I think that’s where we need the most help right now, and I think we want our best cover guys on the field at the same time.

I know Bruce Johnson had a tough week but i’d sooner see him out there w/ Ross playing for Rouse. As opposed to Ross playing for BJ and Rouse and MJ starting at S.

"If you don't know what you're doing... just rush the quarterback" - LT

by andiamo708 on Nov 25, 2009 11:58 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah Andia..Ross

Looked pretty damn good back there..and I like how the Staff is bringing him in slowly..He’ll probably get more and more playing time and then when he’s in 100% gameshape will take over Safety..for a kid who hasn’t played Safety since College, he sure didn’t look like he’s forgotten much about playing that position.

by Bobbiblue on Nov 25, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

If Goff is "tearing in up on Special Teams" ...

he’s got to be the only one. ST are just brutal.

I’m fine with Blackburn at MLB the rest of the way in ’09.

As far as safetly goes, just get the best cover guys out there as the 4-6 DB’s, bring some pressure, and keep away from too much zone.

by Shofner85 on Nov 25, 2009 12:21 PM EST reply actions  

Yes me too..Blackburn should be fine..

He plays the game with passion and enthusiasm..Kinda reminded me of Reasons out there..different position but the same intensity..
And too much zone will ..We don’t need to get to the ’ol “Prevent Offense” days..perish the thought…

by Bobbiblue on Nov 25, 2009 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Tearing it up??

How can he tear it up? It seems almost every punt is a squib and each punt is kicked out of bounds. TC doesn’t allow his ST to make a play.

by FrankB0318 on Nov 25, 2009 12:25 PM EST reply actions  

1 guy doesn't make a whole unit

Goff has definitely made some nice ST plays this year.

IMO, I think the bigger problem is the kicking. If they could boom them high & deep, then maybe the coverage guys could actually get there to make a play. They’re still scrambling down field when the returner has a full head of steam.

by potroast on Nov 25, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

draft a young kicker

I’d like to see us draft a kicker in the 6th-7th round and get it over with. And Tynes HAS already cost us a game or did everyone forget the miss in the chargers game. We lost by 1 point at the end. Also his kickoffs are atrocious

by mclaren_is_the_best on Nov 25, 2009 1:45 PM EST reply actions  

We lost

by 1 when we were up by 6 with under a minute to go in the game. The botched FG happened in the 1st quarter and left the score 0 to 0. We had 3 and a half quarters to play. Also, who’s to say that if he makes the FG, Chargers don’t return the ensuing kickoff for a TD. Can’t say that botched FG decided the game. If anything, Webster’s poor coverage or the D’s inability to protect the lead cost us the game.

by njgiant on Nov 25, 2009 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Tynes has been costing us games..

He can’t kickoff..He’s giving teams 60-65 yard fileds to play on..His kicks are not only short, but they have low trajectory..Returners are off to the races before our coverage guys can get there..We need a guy that can drive it high and into the end-zone..I don’t mind touchbacks, but this is ridiculous..that field goal attempt (or lack there of) against the Chargers..He totally fell asleep at the wheel..That snap was good and Feagles placed it perfect, in fact Feagles looked at him, like “What the hell are you doing?!?”..He tried to weasel out of it saying the ball wasn’t..Well of course not, jerk you took off towards Feagles before the damn ball was snapped and placed. .That’s what happened.

by Bobbiblue on Nov 25, 2009 2:35 PM EST reply actions  

Blackburn

It’s great that the players think the world of Blackburn but we need physical ability and playmaking a lot more than brains and hustle out there now. According to Pro Football focus Blackburn is a huge liability out there. And watching the games, I get the same sense. He doesn’t get off blocks quickly, he can’t cover anybody, and he’s a non factor on the blitz. He is a solid tackler, but he never blows up plays or drives the ball carrier back. If the coaches are convinced that Goff and Sintim can’t do better, well, for this season, I suppose I shouldn’t second guess, but I see Blackburn as a gaping hole in the middle of the defense right now. And with our DTs not playing all that well either there’s big area of the field where we are very vulnerable.

I also find it interesting that nobody is calling for Michael Johnson’s head, but the stats show that he hasn’t been any more effective than CC Brown or Aaron Rouse. You can get away with having one safety who is weak in coverage, but when you have two, well you have a lot of trouble stopping teams with sophisticated passing games.

by Tucker Fredrickson on Nov 25, 2009 2:35 PM EST reply actions  

Well..Tuck..

Interesting points you raise here..I guess like I mentioned earlier, lets see what he is like after he has a few games under his pads..He had a short week to prepare to step-in..We’ll see..I tend to not put much stock in these Pro Football Focus deals..and your right our DTs are a huge disappointment. I never saw that piss poor play coming from them..and that is not helping out our LBs or our secondary..As far as Johnson is concerned, I think the jury is still out on him..Our Safety situation is like a “turnstile”..I really am starting to think Ross is the answer there..That unit needs stability..They need to have a group out there playing together ..Not this: “Let’s try this guy..Let’s try that guy…blah blah blah”..The corners never know who the hell is there and have no chance to know what to expect of them consistently..You can’t have that chaos back there, and as far as I know the game hasn’t advanced technologically enough to the point where a coach can insert a CD of the gameplan up their asses and make them play the same style safety position…Oh boy, I haven’t even eaten any Turkey yet and I’m getting agida.

by Bobbiblue on Nov 25, 2009 3:01 PM EST reply actions  

Pro Football Focus

They’re grading every player on every down. IMO it’s a useful tool to judge how effective some players are performing. Fans often judge based on outstanding plays good and bad. We miss the small details.

Regarding, Blackburn I’d rather play a young inexperienced player that can get better with some playing time than AP. With AP he’s not going to get better. What we see is what we’ll get. AP is a liability. According to PFF he’s 49th in run defense for ILB. That being said I’m surprised he’s 10th in pass coverage.

by FrankB0318 on Nov 25, 2009 3:53 PM EST reply actions  

Blackburn and Tynes

Blackburn isn’t exactly a rookie anymore. He’s been around a few years and hasn’t developed into anything special. He was not very good against Atlanta; watch him on Snelling’s touchdown runs…inept would be the best word…Tynes is a liability. Give me a guy that’s money from 40 and under even if he can’t boot a fifty yarder, at least you know what you’re working with. Tynes would have lasted about a week if Parcells were still around; his method of a revolving door for kickers until he found a consistant one seemed to work pretty well to me. Has anyone heard any complaints about Stover over in Indy? As soon as Vinatieri comes back the Gmen should scoop Stover up…

by Aceholioo on Nov 25, 2009 4:16 PM EST reply actions  

I agree wholeheartedly on Tynes..

Blackburn…We’ll just have to wait and see .I thought he did alright on short notice..the DTs are our problem..and that huge problem up front is causing troubles for the LBs.

by Bobbiblue on Nov 25, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmmmm..

Frank I hear you but the run / pass stats on AP don’t seem to make sense, unless PFF is counting coverage causing no throws as part of it..If it is strictly pass breakups then I can’t believe he is 10th..The run stat does make sense, but I blame our DTs for alot of that..They aren’t even close to slowing anything down up the middle..that is what is deceiving with these statistical analyses..He is getting hammered by runners that hit the holes virtually untouched by our tackles..They are full tilt when he gets there..that is the reason why he is growing another head out of his neck..I don’t any other MLBs out there that have running backs running thru lanes the size of three-lane highways at them..So statistically, they need the factor in a margin of adjustment for a line that isn’t slowing runners down like they are being paid to do..Our team can’t load the box because they get zero push at the line and our secondary is weak..Our defense is in shambles…and the Falcon game proved nothing that would indicate they have made any progress.
One astounding note in TCs comments was that some players felt fatgigue was an issue..Well heck, pull them out and send them to LA Fitness.

by Bobbiblue on Nov 25, 2009 4:35 PM EST reply actions  

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