It's time -- already -- to think about the Broncos
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This is, of course, a short week for our New York Giants. No more time to celebrate Sunday's victory over the Atlanta Falcons.
The Giants play the Broncos Thursday in Denver. So, time to forget the Falcons and think about the Broncos.
(By the way, I figured the "bonus" cheerleader shot would be a good way to get your attention.)
The short week and having to travel all the way to the Mile High City are hardly ideal circumstances. John Mara has made his feelings known to the league about the schedule, but the truth is that really doesn't matter.
If they are going to make the playoffs, this is a game the Giants need to win. Crappy scheduling or not.
And, in reality, it is a game they SHOULD win.
Yes, the Broncos are at home, making the short week easier on them. Yes, their 6-4 record is identical to the Giants.
Truthfully, though, they are a team on the verge of imploding from within. They have lost four straight games. They are fighting with each other. Their inexperienced rookie head coach is showing immaturity instead of leadership.
In short, the Broncos -- who did the Giants one better by starting the season 6-0 -- are a mess.
Here is Yahoo! Sports columnist Michael Silver writing about the bumbling Broncos.
When a football team’s identity disintegrates more abruptly than a Rocky Mountain landslide, the fallout is seldom pretty, and the scenes that played out Sunday afternoon at Invesco Field were predictably tumultuous.
From Denver Broncos coach Josh McDaniels’ pregame trash-talking to theSan Diego Chargers’ linebackers, to a conspicuous sideline spat between wideout Brandon Marshall and rookie halfback Knowshon Moreno the home team displayed all the symptoms of collapse.
Things got so bad early in the fourth quarter of a 32-3 defeat to the Chargers that in the Broncos’ defensive huddle, veteran defensive end Vonnie Holliday felt compelled to call out the quitters in his midst.
"Listen," Holliday said, "we’re gonna watch this film [Monday], and we’re gonna see who lay down and who stepped up. The eye in the sky doesn’t lie. And then we’ll know who we can go to war with to fight our way out of this."
Three weeks into a calamitous month that has seen them go from the NFL’s most stunning Super Bowl contender to a train wreck in the making, the Broncos have lost that loving feeling, perhaps on a permanent basis.
On Oct. 19, when Denver rolled to a 34-23 Monday night victory over the Chargers in San Diego to improve to 6-0, McDaniels’ team was heralded as the epitome of selflessness, a collection of role players who didn’t care who got the credit.
Now, as Holliday’s warning demonstrated, the Broncos are preoccupied with whom to blame for their dramatic freefall.
Denver quarterback Kyle Orton had this to say about his fading team.
"It's past the point of talking about execution or running the ball or passing the ball," Orton said. "I'm done feeling the loss. I'm sick of it ? It's been a long time since we've won, so let's get back on the field and win a game. That's all we are talking about from here on out is just winning ? It's just gotta stop."
For his part, McDaniels gave a bunch of coach-speak when asked about dealing with his struggling team.
"It’s a tough season; it’s a tough season every year. I think you don’t go into it expecting to deal with four-game losing streaks, but I don’t know if you go into it expecting to have six-game winning streaks, either. We play a good team every week, that’s how this league is. It’s a harsh league if you don’t play and coach as well as you can or as well as the other team on the other side of the ball coaches and plays. You learn a harsh lesson that weekend. We have had a few here in a row that certainly hasn’t sat well with our team, myself and our staff. I am eager to get back out there and coach again.
"The only way to get past these things is to work hard, try to put together a great plan, a great week of preparation and try and go out there and coach and play your best against another good football team."
So, yes, the Giants are no longer on the hot seat as the team that got off to the fastest start and took the biggest dive. That honor now belongs to the Broncos. Now, the Giants just need to keep Denver down.
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I hope we don’t look past this team. Marshall is Marshall and Eddie Royal is a monster on special teams, which is not exactly our strong point. The Broncos reek of desperation especially after pulling Simms on Sunday after only four attempts and playing Orton who had a pretty bad ankle sprain. They’re a team lacking confidence and we need to get on them early and keep the foot on the pedal.
by lboogie25 on Nov 24, 2009 6:49 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thats a good point
If we get on them early, and on them i mean by a couple-few scores, this should definitely demoralize them and their fans. Were not playing the best football, but it’s not Broncos bad either!
by Hootman on Nov 24, 2009 7:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent point Iboog...
Key word: “Desperation”…Our guys are flying into a hornets nest on very short notice..They did some very crazy things against the Chargers..A) The Head Coach trash talks with their linebackers during pre-game?..Who the hell ever heard of that…B) They pulled Simms after only four attempts and put an injured Orton in the game?..He could have gotten killed out there..C) BM is allowed to get in the face of a rookie?..Who lost the ball because a humungous knee rammed into it?
There was a bunch of other ‘stuff’ but no sense writing a book on it..All I know is if you corner a wild horse you run the risk of getting stomped on..Holliday is going to be one very mean and dangerous person out there..I hope our guys are not reading all this hype about that team imploding.
One thing I’m thankful for (even though we all like to bash them) is that we have a mature, experienced and professional coaching staff..We witnessed ZERO infighting during our 4 game slide..Hate to lose, but I am proud of the fact that our guys held their heads high and there was no finger pointing or “sideline shows”..Everyone of our guys when interviewed were soul searching their own mistakes, not a fellow players…So, I still say “Look out”..We’re facing a runaway train Thursday.
by Bobbiblue on Nov 24, 2009 9:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yea.
we underrate the fact that this same group of players was the one that enjoyed playing with their backs against the wall.
Well, last year was hardly a back against the wall outing. The first 5 games this season the same.
Maybe they just got complacent and needed that past month of crap…plus a lucky win against ATL, to return to their same win by any means necessary selves?
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Nov 24, 2009 9:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that's a great point Bobbi
despite the potential ugliness of this past month, the awful losses piling up, the team and its coaching staff came out every week and every Sunday with their game faces on and no cracks in the foundation
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Nov 24, 2009 10:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Looking past Denver?
Giants have NO business looking past any1. Whothe hell are theGiants. 1-4 in there last 5……….trust me boogie, they are not looking past the Broncos.
by giantsNYrangers on Nov 24, 2009 8:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
One thing you won't have to worry about is our special teams.
Really. This is not a joke. Our special teams is abysmal. The SD game where Eddie Royal had two return TDs was an absolute shock. That doesn’t make us a great special teams team. So, I just had to interject there and give you a little special teams insight. The broncos are not going to beat your special teams. Guaranteed.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
by kentuckybronco on Nov 24, 2009 9:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ouch
Our coverage unit sucks pretty bad. I guess they’ll even each other out, and we’ll have average returns on both sides
Single cover the real Steve Smith at your own peril
by Willgfass on Nov 24, 2009 10:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps.
I wouldn’t count on many kickoff returns, though. The thin air will make the ball carry through the end zone on many kicks.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
by kentuckybronco on Nov 24, 2009 10:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That is awesome
If Tynes has the leg for that.
It seems our kicker can’t kick it too far, so we always try to angle it, or squib it.
Is playing at mile high that much different than playing else where?
Single cover the real Steve Smith at your own peril
by Willgfass on Nov 24, 2009 11:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, Prater gets the ball to about the 5 yard line at sea level and he gets it about 8 yards deep into the endzone on kickoffs at Mile High.
I’m not sure how Tynes kicks at sea level, but I am sure that kicking it in the thin air will definitely help the ball carry for him.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
by kentuckybronco on Nov 24, 2009 11:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tynes kicks it to about the 5 or 15
depending on how many Guinnesses he had on the sideline.
Considering he usually screws up an advantage like the thin air, I’d say he kicks a squib that gets fielded at the 20 yd line.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Nov 25, 2009 7:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
haha, maybe. I think he'll be fine, though. Balls really do carry in Mile High.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
by kentuckybronco on Nov 26, 2009 1:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, i knew they were losing
But i didn’t know it was this bad?! We all know firsthand, how quickly you can rise, the fall can be even quicker!
by Hootman on Nov 24, 2009 7:10 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Vegas really thinks the Broncos are in a free fall ...
Giants are 6 1/2 point favorites, on the road, which means they think we are a 9 1/2 point better team, since home field is usually spotted 3 points.
Amazing.
by Shofner85 on Nov 24, 2009 7:13 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
That is a big Giants line
Is dawkins out? I haven’t heard anything about his injury.
by BigBlue4Life on Nov 24, 2009 7:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Questionable.
I don’t think he’ll be playing, though. He didn’t look good on the sidelines and neck injuries are nothing to mess around with. I don’t see him playing in four days.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
by kentuckybronco on Nov 24, 2009 9:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Considerding how bad the Giants looked on D
that’s a huge line!
The Giants always seem to loose these type of primetime games so I think it will be a lot closer than 6 1/2
The Broncos probabbly were not as good as that 6-0 indicated and are playing more like what people thought going into the year which is good for the G-Men at this point.
At least the GIants don’t have to face a very good QB this week, not that Ryan was elite but he’ s better than Orton.
On Paper they should win, hell just TC alone gives them an advantage in my book, I can’t believe McDaniels told the SD LB’s “we own you” what a jerk! I’m shocked he said that, If I was the owner I would call him into my office and rip him a new one for that sort of behvaior. What’s up with these coaches trash talking to other players, we had hear Rex Ryan in the NY area do it to Crowder of the Dolphins, hey how did that turn out Rex? As a player how can you take your coach seriously when he engages in that sort of behavior? It’s just mind boggling that bafoons that are in this league as head coaches.
by Landeta on Nov 24, 2009 8:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Denver offense
Yes, our defense has looked bad but you have to remember that we played 5 consecutive teams with very talented offenses. Saints, Cardinals, Eagles, Chargers, Falcons – all of those teams have very good WR’s AND a very good QB that can give them the ball…. Denver doesn’t have that, Kyle Orton is not a good quarterback – they won’t destroy us through the air so I’m confident the Giants can win and cover the spread
by mclaren_is_the_best on Nov 24, 2009 11:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Orton
He is not Brees, Warner, McNabb, Rivers or Matty Ice, but Orton is a good QB, knows how to win, has a pretty good completion % and typically is a great game manager. I know that does not translate into “good QB” all the times, but the guy is a winner and they ahve playmakers. I still think the entire team is adjusting to new coaching and Orton in Denver. They got off to a great start and have floundered with 4 losses, but losing to Chargers, Ravens, Steelers are not bad. The Redskins loss looks kinda bad, but it was on the road.
I think Denver is a good team. I think we had better be concerned and I truly hope that we are still the team that feels the most desperation, otherwise, the Broncos could give us fits.
Through all this out the window is Chris Simms Starts. He is too rusty right now and I would think that we would blitz the crap out of him and gets some turnovers.
by losangelesmets on Nov 24, 2009 12:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The MO on Denver is
Prevent YAC, and their offense isn’t too good. That’s what the Ravens and Pittsburgh did to dominate them.
Washington took advantage of their OL being much bigger than their DL, so they were able to push them around real easily
Single cover the real Steve Smith at your own peril
by Willgfass on Nov 24, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i dont know...
This week could become the comeback turnaround week for the broncos. They may find the strength within and come out with the victory.
we can NOT let the G men underestimate these guys. but thank god that we have a cool, collected group of players.
by EarthWindFire on Nov 24, 2009 10:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm still worried
the Giants’ defense was gasping in the 4th Q this past Sunday and now they have to play a mile above the sea in a short week? I don’t care how bad the Broncos are playing, the Giants defense has shown the ability to keep any offense in the game and now they will have to do it against some tough odds. They better figure out how to get the running game going this week because they are going to need it.
by potroast on Nov 24, 2009 7:14 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
If they need to pass
To keep it more of a ball control game, they should implement the dink an dunks to the WR’s. If they’re not big gainers, they can still be as effective as a 4-5 yard run!
by Hootman on Nov 24, 2009 7:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good point
They seem to be realizing that & moving that way.
by potroast on Nov 24, 2009 8:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah Hoot...
I mentioned the same thing yesterday…We need to get teams to back out of the box..They are all doing it to us…The best formula?..Short passes right off the bat..That’ll get them out of there, then we can hammer them with our running attack.
by Bobbiblue on Nov 24, 2009 9:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
...and I think that is effecting our O-line play
We have to drive defenses out of there.
by Bobbiblue on Nov 24, 2009 9:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Altitude is a very good point ...
The 7-man rotation on the D-line was supposed to be a strength going into the season. Let’s hope it is here.
by Shofner85 on Nov 24, 2009 7:42 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Totally agree about the conditioning thing
they always seem gassed late in games especailly Tuck who needs to be out there he’s truley a great player. Even in the SB against the Pats he was sucking wind an running to the sideline a lot on that last TD drive by NE.
I do think the GIants will get a bit of a break going against Orton. He’s a nice player and all but he’s not nearly as good as the last 5 QB’s the GIants faced, well maybe Ryan from a mental standpoint but not physically. He struggles to throw deep passes, he’s not accurate nor does he have great arm streghth so it limits Denver a bit. Hopefully Sheridan and Co realize this and jam the line to take away the run and force Orton to win the game.
by Landeta on Nov 24, 2009 9:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good points on the altitude factor..
Hopefully, they are already out there…The whole team needs to quickly get acclamated to the thin air at mile-high..I also think the reason our defense is gasing out is because they are allowing teams to sustain drives even though we have pretty much owned TOP during the slide, our defense is getting physically hammered…I do agree that some of the problem could be due to conditioning though..We don’t have any Strahans on the team anymore..That guy walks on the field after traning camp is over with and could play 24X7.
by Bobbiblue on Nov 24, 2009 10:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
remember...
tuck and uymeniora are pro bowl caliber players. remember that. they just havent played at their peak so far. and that is the secondary’s fault. If theres a good secondary on the field the offense cant move the chains easily, therefore more pressure on the offensive line. with more pressure even the best offensive lines start to crack.
by EarthWindFire on Nov 24, 2009 11:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Look past?
Not this time.
This is a winnable game. Don’t blow the season GMen
by MSP Giant on Nov 24, 2009 7:19 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
The Giants Will Win If --
Stating the obvious, but: The two lines rediscover the ability to control the line of scrimmage. End of story. The D is our achilles, we can all agree on that now. But the O line is also troublesome, has been all year. As is our special teams coverage. We can’t be a one dimensional passing team that can’t get push on either side and expect to win much, even
a desperate, imploding team headed by a gimpy and historically streaky QB.
by ZILLAG on Nov 24, 2009 7:32 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Good luck for a change
We have moaned about our injuries, playcalling and Tynes for most of the season.
However, when you look at other teams that you see things far worst than what we are suffering, so maybe we have been lucky after all.
Take the Skins for example – how many OL have they lost injured – three or four – plus a starting safety and 2 RB’s and their TE and to add insult their kicker missed 2 FG which cost them a win against the Boys.
The Ravens had Cundiff as the new Kicker and his only miss was the difference in a win or loss.
The Steelers could lose both Big Ben and Batch for the game against the Ravens.
So – yes we lost KP and other players have missed time – but compared to other teams we are in a lot better shape.
It is now a 6 game season – we win all six then we have the division. We win four or five and we may still have the division but should make the playoffs as a wild card. Win three and we may need help!
With three division games that could go either way we certainly need to beat the Broncos and the Panthers. The Vikes game could be strange as they may rest players or still go all out!
Some might say that even if we reach the playoffs our defence will doom us. Well that is not much different to 2007 where the D was bad against the pass in the regular season but transformed in the postseason.
Whilst we would have liked to have been 8-2 at this point we still have everything to play for this season.
by G Fan in England on Nov 24, 2009 7:58 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I would be one of those who would say
even if we reach the playoffs our defense will doom us – that is, unless we have someone to step up and make that tackle to make it 4th down – to step up and make the interception that hits both hands, maybe even get the one that nobody would think he should – to step up and get a sack – these are things that we actually did in 2007 and it got even better in the playoffs. We have done very little of those kinds of things this season, at least consistently.
It can change and I hope it does, though.
We didn't even have a chance for the "perfect season", but we did have the perfect ending.
by GAgiantfan on Nov 24, 2009 9:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
exactly!
in 07 this D made plays in all but 4 games durring the regular season. We won 4 games that year when our O scored 16 or fewer points. They scored 5 defensive TD’s in 07. The pass rush improved in the playoffs and Webster steped in for an injured Sam Madison which helped big time. They held Dallas on 3 drives in the 4th quarter of that playoff game and on each of those drives Dallas started with very good field positioning. This team is not even close to that.
I don’t like the 07 comparisons that D was very good outside of 4 games that year and constintaly improved and then became dominate in the playoffs. The biggest problem with the 07 Giants during the regular season was Eli he played very poorley the second half of the year and pretty much was responsible for the Vikings and Washington losses late in the year. That was a 12-4 team if Eli just played ok down the streatch.
This years team is the complete opposite Eli is the one thing keeping this team in the playoff race right now. I just hope the D and running game can turn it around like Eli did in 07!
by Landeta on Nov 24, 2009 9:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Put it another way
Six weeks ago we were No 1 in the rankings and were we going to the Manning Bowl.
Now we seen as a team with issues and are struggling to make the playoffs.
However, the talent of the players has not changed and if anything we are healthier now than we were six weeks ago.
So in many eyes we are under the radar – let’s hope we can sneak into the playoffs and go from there.
by G Fan in England on Nov 24, 2009 9:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You bet G Fan
the talent is still there – always has been.
All the GMen have to do is play to their abilities – that is all. No unrealistic expectations.
And get solid coaching. And a bit of luck. And we make the postseason dance. No matter the schedule – NY or anyone else.
Wins agains Philly and Dallas are key!
For Denver Dawkins out and Orton hobbled are in that Vegas line. Hope it stays that way.
by MSP Giant on Nov 24, 2009 10:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why sneak into the playoffs?
I think its very possible we can win the division.
That’s our goal, and we’ll accomplish it.
Single cover the real Steve Smith at your own peril
by Willgfass on Nov 24, 2009 11:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Besides our division, but just the WC even
Who’s to say that Dallas, Philly or GB go into a Giants/Broncos-like slide? If we take care of our own business, let other teams squander their hopes so we don’t have to rely on help! And i do think the division is very attainable based on my theory!
by Hootman on Nov 24, 2009 12:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you both
I mean sneak as in win the diviision quietly and unnoticed
by G Fan in England on Nov 24, 2009 2:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That I'm for
I hate when my team is the front loader, it means we have expectations to live up to, and usually high expectations aren’t reached.
Now that we’re down the totem poll, lets do some overachieving.
Single cover the real Steve Smith at your own peril
by Willgfass on Nov 24, 2009 4:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i still think we can win the division
how about dem apples?!
by wilddre22 on Nov 24, 2009 7:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As long as we take those apples
and make pie out of the Cows on 12/13….good chance of it.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Nov 24, 2009 7:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
All good points
but the D in 07 sturggled against elite passing teams like NE and Dallas it was fine against everyone else the biggest worry that year Eli playing consistantly even in some wins he was awful, the D and the running game saved is a few times that year this year it’s the complete and total opposite.
by Landeta on Nov 24, 2009 9:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree G Fan
if you think about that 2007 team, In the tail end of November that year, you’d be nuts to think the Giants were a SB team. Eli really was average to above average at best, the running backs kept getting injured and the defense, aside from an Eagles and Niners game where they dominated them, really wasn’t that same D that beat the hell out of Brady in the Bowl. They were good, very good even. Elite? I dunno about that……
Right now? We have a middling running game, a defense that plays above average for 3 Q’s then inexplicably gets the wind knocked out of it in the 4th and collapses (at least this is the story the past 2 games).
We have a QB tho. One who, since he’s now healthy, is back on his elite horse again.
I don’t know what it all means…but we have a QB.
Big Brother down in Indy has basically the same problem. Middling running game, Indy probably has a better pass rush at this point but their CB’s and secondary are more banged up, so they’re getting by on smoke and mirrors too.
Someone’s gotta step up on D.
I still think there’s too much talent on that side of the ball. I don’t wanna blame Sheridan for it all, but he’s gotta throw some damn wrinkles in there.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Nov 24, 2009 9:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
To me the biggest change for that 2007 team was that Eli changed. He went from poor decision-making to great decision-making.
He went from trying to make the ESPN highlights to taking what the defense was giving him.
Payed big dividends for us, too.
Being a good DC involves being able to “mask” weaknesses. I’m not sure BS has mastered that feat yet.
So I say YEH let’s see some new wrinkles.
We didn't even have a chance for the "perfect season", but we did have the perfect ending.
by GAgiantfan on Nov 24, 2009 9:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You right G Fan...
One need only look at Miami…They lost almost the entire O-line to injury during last Thursdays game against Carolina..Including even their back up center..On defense they lost Ferguson (for the season)…but they persevered and won the game…Yes we have been a tad bit luckier.
by Bobbiblue on Nov 24, 2009 9:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gonna be tough.
they gotta battle another team fighting for their playoff lives and also the high altitude.
Hopefully they are already in Denver letting their bodies acclimate to the latter part of that.
Just need to keep playing their game. Eli looks back to normal, so that’s gotta help.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Nov 24, 2009 8:02 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
This is all fine and dandy but...
The Giants have to worry about the Giants. I am EXTREMELY concerned about the performance of the defense. Two days is not a lot of time to look at film, work on anything, or even heal up from the last game for that matter. Then you have to fly to Denver on top of that??! It’s one thing if the game was at Giants Stadium, a whole other story playing on the road. It will be a miracle of we don’t see a flat and tired Giants team on Thursday night. Denver may be a basket case, but that has nothing to do with the NY Giant football.
by MJ20 on Nov 24, 2009 8:54 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
EXACTLY.
We could be our own worst enemy.
Good tackling and a heavy dose of running could be our two best friends.
Since we both played on Sunday, I don’t think we’re any more tired than they are.
Elevation could make it worse for us late in the game.
We didn't even have a chance for the "perfect season", but we did have the perfect ending.
by GAgiantfan on Nov 24, 2009 9:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We have all seen this before...
I have been a Giants fan for about 28 years now. But we have seen this movie before. This is a game the Giants should win. But I dont know about anyone else, but I have no more fingernails left to bite off. Please keep your foot on the gas pedal and dont let up an inch on any of the teams left. It is a tough, very tough 7 games left. Dont get complacent. I am on their side no matter what happens. You know..the kanell and brown days. This could be a huge let down game. the broncos are hurting..bad!! they will be hungry for a win. Dont let up on them at all when you get them down,step on their throat more.PLEASE!!! I hope we can all fall asleep in a triptophan coma around what 11:45-12:00am with a huge smile on our faces!!
by NYGIANTS61773 on Nov 24, 2009 9:11 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Still thinking
about getting up at 3AM to follow the game online!
by G Fan in England on Nov 24, 2009 9:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
DO IT DO IT!
We didn't even have a chance for the "perfect season", but we did have the perfect ending.
by GAgiantfan on Nov 24, 2009 9:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My record is
1 and 1
Did not wake up for Cowboys game and we won
Got up for the Cardinals game and we lost.
So luck (and logic as I am at work next day) says stay in bed.
by G Fan in England on Nov 24, 2009 9:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I see. Stay in bed then! lol
We didn't even have a chance for the "perfect season", but we did have the perfect ending.
by GAgiantfan on Nov 24, 2009 9:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
don't know where you are in England --
— but it brings back many good memories of 07. Watched much of the season from the all sports cafe in London’s Haymarket, off Piccadilly. Also was lucky to have the Lion’s game shown on Sky at the hotel. Unfortunately, saw the Vikings debacle with some Minny fans at the All Sports, though it was fun, really miss that place. Loud. Good crowds.
by ZILLAG on Nov 24, 2009 9:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Was in London
up to November 2000 when I moved to York.
The fans in England support a team but are also fans of the game which makes it for a friendly but good crowd.
by G Fan in England on Nov 24, 2009 9:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ironic
that it has been mentioned about not overlooking things, not losing our concentration, forgetting some things and moving on to other things…..and Ed throws this pic in there. Thanks ED!
We didn't even have a chance for the "perfect season", but we did have the perfect ending.
by GAgiantfan on Nov 24, 2009 9:29 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yes that is a picture that'll keep one's blood flowing..
To the appropriate parts of the anatomy….God…How come we don’t her on the field?..All we get get are shots of Gilbride’s rather prominent nose for crying out loud..
by Bobbiblue on Nov 24, 2009 10:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Now now
Ed will not approve and keep his stash of pics to himself.
by G Fan in England on Nov 24, 2009 10:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha!!
Yes I retract that comment..Wouldn’t want Ed to refrain from tossing us a bone from his lovely archive..
by Bobbiblue on Nov 24, 2009 10:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There you go again!
Or does my english english make your american english sound rude!
by G Fan in England on Nov 24, 2009 10:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
G Fan..
I am wondering how you might of thought of me being ‘rude’..We all love you over here..and you make very good points and observations…Maybe it is my American English..I apologize if I typed something you found offensive or rude..I don’t do that. Your a good guy and it is fun chatting with you..Sorry about that, but I must admit I am scratching my head trying to figure out what is was that got you upset..Bob
by Bobbiblue on Nov 24, 2009 10:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Turn of expression
Bobbi
No offence and I do not mean to upset you as you make more good points than I do – there is a difference between our two languages.
Let us say that Tossing a Bone when combined with a picture of a cheerleader in England suggests Ed is doing something other than sharing his pictures with us.
by G Fan in England on Nov 24, 2009 11:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
G Fan...Okay
I now understand…What that phrase means here is someone giving their pet dog a biscuit as a treat..I meant nothing beyond that..Sorry my poor choice of humor caused a mis-translation..Actually, I re-read my first comment and realized that it could be mis-construed, but like an idiot I kept with the joking around, once I saw how it could have been interpreted…Those pictures Ed posts are alot of fun to laugh and joke about..They tend to lighten things up a little bit while we all seriously comment on our team…I’ve learned a valuable lesson here..and at the ripe old age of 53, as the American slogan goes: “It is hard to teach an old dog new tricks”..Peace…Bob
by Bobbiblue on Nov 24, 2009 11:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL @ "Tossing a bone"
funny stuff… it reminds me of being at a bar in the Caribbean with a bunch of Brits… I said something like “Ranking on each other” and this guy turned to me and said “You’re wanking on each other?” which did not even make sense to me at all.
We got another round and had a laugh over some fags. You know, cigarettes.
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Nov 24, 2009 11:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I really hope that..
Whatever sub-standard officiating crew we wind up with Thursday, they get advised about the potential for ‘cheap-shots’ and get told to watch out for them..We are going up against a wounded animal, and things could get nasty..I hope we can just fly out there, win and get out of town with no ‘walking wounded’.
by Bobbiblue on Nov 24, 2009 10:05 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Why
That is like saying we would cheap shot the Falcons last week.
There is not as far as I am aware of bad blood between the two teams.
It just so happens we have beaten the Broncos in the big games (Martin’s Int, the SB win, Toomer’s catch to end their winning streak)
by G Fan in England on Nov 24, 2009 10:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget Gary Reason's killer stop in '89.
December game in Denver, lots of snow, I think it was goal line. Bronco’s run it, Reason’s flies
through — slam! 4th down. Giant win, I believe, 14-7, or something like that.
by ZILLAG on Nov 24, 2009 10:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly 14-7
in the snow a week after the Giants lost to Philly for the second time and looked like they pissed away the division, luckly that bafoon Buddy Ryan was there coach and they laid an egg that monday night in NO which allowed the Giants to win the division that year.
That was one of my favorate games, if I’m not mistaken Dave Megget scored both Giant TD’s on big plays one on a draw and another on a screen. Awsome Awsome game
by Landeta on Nov 24, 2009 10:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah..and how about..
Jim Burt’s smashing blow on Montana in ‘86?..It was a good clean hit but unfortunately Joe’s head slammed on the frozen field..They had to cart him off the field, but it was a clean hit..These players today that aim for the helmet, or leg whip are bums..and they are intentional, pre-meditated dirty hits.
by Bobbiblue on Nov 24, 2009 11:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gary Reasons had the defensive series of his life that game in Denver
And his son has packaged it all together for us to see on Youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBjCkEkln9E
That hit on Humphrey is the stuff of legend. I remember how loud it was hearing that pop on the television.
by Step up and make big plays on Nov 24, 2009 11:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Also, watch the stick on Elway at about 4:00
!!!
by Step up and make big plays on Nov 24, 2009 11:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the link
incredible video. Did you notice the Denver RB’s mouthpiece went flying out when he got crushed? This is a video the Giants should be watching this week!
also p.s. going for it on 4th and one from well into your own territory while ahead to avoid giving a potent offense a chance for a 2-minute drill… GENIUS! Belichik learned from the master.
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Nov 24, 2009 12:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As General George Patton would say..
“God I love it so”…
by Bobbiblue on Nov 24, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well the point is..
Our coaching staff wouldn’t allow that kind of play…but if McDaniels is running around telling the opposition that his team “owns them”, then I question his maturity..If you have a head coach in the NFL saying stuff like that, then who knows what he’ll allow his players to do on the field.
There is certainly no bad blood between the two teams and they have a great fan base..I just get suspicious when the head man pulls stunts like that.
by Bobbiblue on Nov 24, 2009 10:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
not to mention Dawkins
King of the helmet-to-helmet on defenseless opponents
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Nov 24, 2009 10:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope that it is as far away
from Walt Coleman as it gets. He plain sucks.
We didn't even have a chance for the "perfect season", but we did have the perfect ending.
by GAgiantfan on Nov 25, 2009 12:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I just think that as bad as the broncos are playing...
we shouldn’t be snickering and pointing the finger. prior to Sunday we were in the same boat, and can be back in that boat very quickly.
w/ our defense, even a big lead doens’t mean Denver will throw the towel in.
"If you don't know what you're doing... just rush the quarterback" - LT
by andiamo708 on Nov 24, 2009 10:55 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
no.
we definitely have to put them out of their misery. Cannot let up off the gas.
Everyone knows what the Broncos are at this point….a Brandon Stokley and Brandon Marshall incredible play away from being 4-6, perhaps worse.
Orton’s not gonna be 100% for this Thursday either, if he plays. Their defense can be got too.
They still can come up and bite. Should not be taken lightly. I just hope the offense still has the same plan of ‘jabs’ with the pass, at least try to run…then take the shots later on. The defense? Just make some damn plays and get off the field.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Nov 24, 2009 11:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
FB...
the point I was trying to make is that, we can’t get a big lead and say “well, that’s it…it’s miller time”.
we’ll need to play a full 4 quarters. if a 14 point lead is not safe w/ 8 minutes to go at home….well, what lead would “put them out of their misery” ?
"If you don't know what you're doing... just rush the quarterback" - LT
by andiamo708 on Nov 24, 2009 12:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
up 42 with 6 minutes to play
then I’d relax
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Nov 24, 2009 12:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was trying to agree with you andiamo.....
I guess I should’ve said it…
But yea, 14 point lead has obviously not been "game over’. That’s kind of what I mean that they can’t step off the gas if they get 14 point lead.
I was also trying to say….The Denver offense is not SD’s…not the Falcons either (why are so many people writing off Matt Ice as ‘the Giants shouldn’t let that up? Matt Ryan is an excellent QB).
Phillip Rivers and Matt Ryan simply did what they do…be big time QB’s. I would’ve hoped Eli finished off the Chargers and didn’t really get a chance to at the complete end of that one…and obviously had to go to OT for the Falcons one.
So…if Kyle Orton..or Chris Simms, does what Rivers and Ryan did…then its pretty much all out panic mode.
They stop him…well, I think many of us should be doing som ‘cap-tipping’ to 2 excellent NFL QB’s in Ryan and RIvers who led those comebacks.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Nov 24, 2009 12:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
For me
I think that the key to the game is to keep Moreno in check. We know that Cweb will be tied up with Marshall all day and Royal has not been the beast that he was last year. As far as QBs, Simms is skiddish to say the least and Orton will have limited mobility with that ankle. This looks like a game that we should be able to come in and take care of businness but we can’t overlook this team. Feels like the same type of game that we had last week but the roles are reversed. Like Free said, we’ve got to keep our foot on the gas. Go for the early knockout !
by njgiant on Nov 24, 2009 1:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If they'll hit Moreno
he’ll cough it up. Hit him hard and often!
We didn't even have a chance for the "perfect season", but we did have the perfect ending.
by GAgiantfan on Nov 25, 2009 12:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
u will disagree
with me and i understand but u are bang up in the in the d-backfield no pirce all u have its that pass rush we beat dallas at home will will not lose by 9-and a haif 3 at most thankgiving games home team wins 70 pecent of the time denver have played thankgiveing 2 years in a row vegas wants ny to win biggest market if u can not get a pass rush u will not win because u can not cover our wr are u better than denver right now yes in fact if this was on sunday u wouild win but u let j snelling run on u a fb c bailey will take s smith out of the game eli it hot and cold and denver can not keep playing this poor if they dont turn the ball over they win i been to denver the short air throws u off if u dont play in it once a year i understand if u disgaree i expect u to athoing thing against u is the players will be looking at dallas in 10 days a much bigger game oh by the way i think u will win the east dallas will slow down philly is overrated
okay i have cereal palsy arhrtis and chronic fatiue as well i have a grea life loveing folks some days are better that other days i got a make a wish in 2001 saw my favorive team the broncos was the trip of the lifetime i wish everyone couild gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that ok but i bleed organ and bule
by j-man on Nov 24, 2009 5:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
the cheerleader....
is it just me or does she look like Alicia Keys? Yummy!
by wilddre22 on Nov 24, 2009 7:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Bettter watch out Wild..
I just recieved a "cultural’ lesson from our buddy G Fan today about comments that perhaps may be Mis-construed..I had a lesson taught to me about the subtle differences in our forms of English..I inadvertently sounded rude to him and insulting..I apologized after learning what the English folks interpret terms or phrases..like: “Throw me a bone”..over there that has a rather perverted connotation..Aw hell, sorry G fan..she does look like Alicia Keys damn it….lol
by Bobbiblue on Nov 24, 2009 8:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Im not worried about the offense come thursday.....
It’s the D im worried about. It’s incredible how much of a difference a DC makes huh? How much does this team miss Spags? Same talent as last year if not better….(with the exception of missing Kenny Phillips) and how much worse is this team? Sheridan is a gonner next year. If this defense plays the waof they they did in the 2nd half of the ATL in Denver its gonna be a long night. They gotta get this red zone defense going man. They are so easy to score upon in the red. Is it the gme plan?, is it the personnel?, is it the play calling?, is it the execution? Christ man I dont know but im not supposed to know……the DC better know soon or the Giants are better off losing down the stretch. Playing for draft picks!!!!
by giantsNYrangers on Nov 24, 2009 8:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah it seems
Our guys are off balanced and confused inside the 20…We are doing terrible defending teams inside the 20..If 200 hundred of us don’t get it..I can only imagine what Sheridan and co. are trying to deal with….and trust me they all peek in here to see what we are saying.
by Bobbiblue on Nov 24, 2009 8:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Inside the 20s only?
I love our guys, really. But I can’t think of when we last put together a string of memorable stops on the defense, save the Chargers game. We did it the first 5 weeks, but we should have then. Beyond that, we’re having trouble stopping teams anywhere on the field.
It seems like the times that we get stops, it’s because someone drops a pass or takes the wrong running lane, and not because we forced our will against the opposition.
It’ll get better I hope. This surely won’t be the game to take lightly or take plays off.
We didn't even have a chance for the "perfect season", but we did have the perfect ending.
by GAgiantfan on Nov 25, 2009 12:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What a shame Bobbi...
This team has the potential to be one of the best on both sides of the ball and what? Remember all the hype coming into the season about our ferocious pass rush with the “best” d-line in the NFL? What joke. Again……Play calling or execution? I dont know bro……..
by giantsNYrangers on Nov 24, 2009 9:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yes your right giantsNY..
Our guys have to be rated the most talented underachievers in the league..I’ve rooted for our teams for years(47) and knew all along where the talent was lacking..This group has me dizzy..I just cannot understand it..So much talent..Never have I seen so much talent on the Giants..and it just hasn’t come all together yet..We still have time..but I really don’t see it yet…Hopefully, they’ll get it all together..I just don’t know. Thursday will be another big test…I am not buying into that Denver ‘imploding’ jazz..If our players buy into it we are going to lose.
by Bobbiblue on Nov 24, 2009 9:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
some1 out here made a comment........
about how he hopes the Giants werent looking past the Broncos towards Dallas. Are you kidding me?!! The Giants have NO business looking past any1. No margin for error, gotta keep pace w/ the Eagles, Packers, Cowboys and whoever else. They gotta do something about this red zone defense. Giants were lucky to pull it out against ATL. No thanks to the defense and Bill Sheridan. T.C. got it horribly wrong promoting this bum instead of geting a legit DC from outside the organization
by giantsNYrangers on Nov 24, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You are right on giantsNY..
We can’t afford overlooking anything..It is one game at a time from here on out..This is the home stretch now..Every game is a must win..I don’t think any of the guys talked about overlooking, I think the comments were more don’t overlook anybody..We don’t have that luxury..Every game counts, every game from here on out is a must win. Our guys had a 4 game skid and a bye week..The vacation is over..and it starts Thursday..We squeaked by the Falcons..Now we need to be dominate..they can do it…We get past this desperate Bronco team, rest and take care of business..We’ll be in good shape..One encouragement..alot of our guys felt the win over the Falcons was like a loss..so, that tells me they are unsatisfied and hungry.
by Bobbiblue on Nov 24, 2009 10:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes G..
I believe I helped the makers of “Tums”..Way back they sold them in lifesavers – like packages, then started selling them in larger plastic bottles, now they sell in these huge plastic containers..I think they owe some of us a little bit of their profits..lol..and they should rename them…“Giants Fans”
by Bobbiblue on Nov 27, 2009 4:34 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

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