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Giants 34, Falcons 31 (OT): Keep that coin

New York Giants running back Ahmad Bradshaw (44) picks up a first down while being tackled by Atlanta Falcons safety Erik Coleman, bottom left, and cornerback Brent Grimes (20) in the third quarter of an NFL football game, Sunday, Nov. 22, 2009, in East Rutherford, N.J.

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New York Giants running back Ahmad Bradshaw (44) picks up a first down while being tackled by Atlanta Falcons safety Erik Coleman, bottom left, and cornerback Brent Grimes (20) in the third quarter of an NFL football game, Sunday, Nov. 22, 2009, in East Rutherford, N.J.

Saved by the overtime coin toss!

After watching the New York Giants defense look helpless in surrendering a lead for the second week in a row, I had zero confidence they could win if the Atlanta Falcons had the ball to begin the overtime.

Thankfully, the Giants got the ball and never gave the defense a chance to muck it up.

Oh, and like you guys I was ready to call for the Giants to get themselves a new kicker after he missed a 31-yard chip shot in the first half. But, Tynes being Tynes he made the kick the Giants needed to save their season, the 36-yard game-winner.

So, this one might not have been pretty. But, the Giants are now 6-4 with a chance to go to Denver Thursday and put themselves firmly back in the playoff picture.

I will take it.

[NOTE: Be sure to check back later for post-game quotes. And, remember to stop by in the morning for the traditional 'Kudos & Wet Willies'.]

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FHEW!

Glad to get out with a win. Wasn’t pretty at all…but a win is a win..I really had no cares for how they would play THIS week…long as we win.

D has to play better, Eli was incredible today and earned his dough.

Osi and Tuck were on point all day…good to see them back.

Gotta make some plays when we’re putting the game away tho. Both sides of the ball included.

Tynes is good for the GW…and I’m not all pissed at him for the 1st miss (The other guy missed too…is it canceled…) but the kickoffs is where he pisses me off.

We really need a kicker with an NFL leg.

Nice to see HAM return too. He was great today.

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 22, 2009 4:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

More to come from Super 82, that’s for sure. Reese made the right call in letting the youngsters grow up.

by lboogie25 on Nov 22, 2009 4:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yea

clearly paying dividends letting manningham and nix learn on the spot…. if only the same could be said for the secondary.

don’t know bout you guys, but in some ways i feel worse after this game than after the chargers game — ATL offense looked like the f***ing colts out there, and that’s without turner.

there don’t seem to be many defenses in the nfl that are easier to score on than ours (especially in crunch time, when it counts). but a win is a win, and i’ll take it…

by tulls200 on Nov 22, 2009 4:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Matt Ryan is a good QB....

Tony Gonz and Roddy White are still what they are, and this Snelling dude is NOT all that bad.

STILL…the secondary and the RZ D sucked.

I don’t know what it is…but lots a guys out of position. It probably is coaching but you gotta give the other guys credit too.

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 22, 2009 4:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think a lot of it was Ross

tho…Michael Johnson had a horrible game.

CC Brown was on the field too cuz Rouse was a moron. That didn’t help.

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 22, 2009 5:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

johnson brothers

both johnsons (michael and bruce) were getting turned around all day

by tulls200 on Nov 22, 2009 5:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bruce played like a rook.

I dunno if MJ sucks…or its cuz he’s got to play with CC Brown and Aaron Rouse?

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 22, 2009 5:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Rouse did nothing wrong

He hit him inbounds, hard. That’s what he gets paid for. I’d tell him to do it again if I could. And he actually had a decent game.

by wilddre22 on Nov 22, 2009 5:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

there were

some silly penalties on that drive, like the holding…but i can’t complain about the rouse hit. player was inbounds, you play till the whistle…rouse was playing with passion until the end of the play.

by cntrlalt on Nov 22, 2009 5:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think I might have a slight break in my right hand from that call

it followed another completely BS call back to back. I was pretty mad. HE WAS IN BOUNDS.

You play to win the game!

by Simms-McConkey on Nov 23, 2009 10:38 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

c web

was very good. i tend to avoid putting any blame on coaching and blame players for absolutely everything — seems like our defense just plan sucks. i don’t recall stopping atlanta a single time in the 2nd half – i think they scored every time they had the ball. that’s pathetic.

were osi, tuck, and the d line REALLY in the backfield all day? tv talking heads said the same thing, but i didn’t notice a whole lot of pressure in the 2nd half.

by tulls200 on Nov 22, 2009 5:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

they were in there a lot...

They didn’t get any hits or sacks tho.

I

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 22, 2009 5:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

They had 2 sacks, inc a huge FF

Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!

by bigbluethruandthru on Nov 22, 2009 5:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

2nd half we're talking about.

The were in there a few times, mainly that RZ (finally!!) ‘stop’.

But other than that, 2nd half pass rush looked like the last 4 weeks.

Ton of blitzes…nothing hitting.

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 22, 2009 5:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Defense

I’m with you, Tulls. I have zero problem w/Sheridan in the fourth quarter. There were blitzes, there were covers. There were no three-man rushes. Plain and simple, nobody made a play on the last two drives. That’s not on Sheridan, that’s on the players.

by Ed Valentine on Nov 22, 2009 5:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yea..

I don’t understand why people are saying they played “prevent”.

It looked like prevent…but you don’t blitz in prevent.

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 22, 2009 5:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I actually don't really have a problem with the last drive

they were probably gassed from being on the field so much in the second half (their own fault), so it makes sense that they weren’t getting to the QB. Agree, it wasn’t prevent, nothing was going to work there.

by Mount17 on Nov 22, 2009 5:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

penalties...

they killed themselves with the penalties.

I dunno who to blame. COughlin? He’s not the referee. And are we gonna bench guys for getting penalties? Who goes in their place?

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 22, 2009 5:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I never like blaming Coughlin for penalties

because he obviously stresses them. I really don’t know if there’s anything more he can do to bring them down.

by Mount17 on Nov 22, 2009 5:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

well

at least someone is on my side here. is a defense that jumps offsides, continually blows coverages, etc. “confused” because of bad coaching? if so, is it ever not the coaches fault?

by tulls200 on Nov 22, 2009 5:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

its ALWAYS

ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWALYS!!!!!

a combination of both.

ALWAYS.

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 22, 2009 5:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Alwalys

The Cowboys are the France of the NFL
-thwalls

On 3rd down, throw it to Smith.

by Willgfass on Nov 22, 2009 6:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't get to see the game

but listened on the Falcons radio network. Sounds like Boss is back in the game. Eli threw for almost 400 yards. Boley is apparently playing well, I heard his name a lot. I agree that Tynes is not the guy for us. We give up about twenty yards of field position every time he kicks off.

Red Zone defense is still obviously a problem. Things are looking up as Denver is not as good as their record. We’re back in the game!

by giant fan since 57 on Nov 22, 2009 4:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

It would be nice

if SD beats up Denver a little bit. But hopefully it doesn’t become a blowout.

by Mount17 on Nov 22, 2009 4:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

people, Tynes has to go!

He made the one that counts? We wouldn’t have possibly been in that situation had he hit the earlier one. Between the easy misses, and the poor poor kickoff lengths, I’ve made my mind up on tynes.

If were going to be a team that lives on a lot of field goals, which we do this season, then we need someone who is reliable from the 25 in.

Guys, you keep giving him more chances to kill us, and eventually he will. Mark it down.

by wilddre22 on Nov 22, 2009 4:53 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

on the fence

those kickoffs are awful – can’t really blame the meadowlands wind, cuz the opposing kicker always seems to get it 5-10yds deeper than tynes kicking to same side of the field.

what’s funny is he keeps getting a free pass for hitting the kick in the ’07 NFCC — even though he pulled the crap out of one kick and left another one short in that game before he finally made the game winner.

by tulls200 on Nov 22, 2009 5:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Kickoffs

Some of those, I think, are planned to be short bouncers. But, he is definitely not an asset on kickoffs.

by Ed Valentine on Nov 22, 2009 5:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

I think those bouncers and line drives are planned. I think also it’s because they know Tynes can’t boom it. So that is an attempt to compensate.

by blains2000 on Nov 22, 2009 5:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

There are several that have to go

We’ll be looking for a whole lot in the draft and Free Agents

Secondary
Linebacker
O-Line

by EverBlue on Nov 22, 2009 7:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

jacob's knees

i’m curious as to why there’s such harsh fines and rules against blocking in the knees but there’s been no action against tackling by throwing your body at the knees?

its not just jacobs, its all over the league where you see running backs get killed by defenders taking shots at their knees and ankles. its dangerous and i don’t understand why its an issue on one side of the ball but not the other.

what happened to being a man and taking a shot at a guy’s chest?

by cntrlalt on Nov 22, 2009 4:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

It's clear that's now the book on Jacobs

Dive at his feet and if that doesn’t get him grab a foot and hold on. Everyone tries to tackle him this way.

by blains2000 on Nov 22, 2009 5:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Tackling

You have to let guys tackle somehow. Can’t throw a flag on every single play.

by Ed Valentine on Nov 22, 2009 5:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yea

i just think its dangerous to allow players to go for another guy’s knees. that’s someone livelihood at risk every play.

by cntrlalt on Nov 22, 2009 5:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

you are right on

that tackler threw an absolute chop block on Jacobs. He didn’t try to wrap up the ankles. He dove his weight downwards into the top of the kneecap

You play to win the game!

by Simms-McConkey on Nov 23, 2009 10:40 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Defence

Our defense is like butter under this defensive coordinator . We will will never go to the playoff with our defense playing like that .Can you imagine what would have happen to us if the Falcons had their best running back in the game .

by nickyb4898 on Nov 22, 2009 4:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

players are to blame

as hard as it is to admit, this defensive line doesn’t seem like what it once was. i have a really hard time blaming sheridan for our problems; i think we just have a bad defense.

by tulls200 on Nov 22, 2009 5:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The interior isn't

Tuck and Osi are doing their jobs, you need some type of push from the middle from time to time

The Cowboys are the France of the NFL
-thwalls

On 3rd down, throw it to Smith.

by Willgfass on Nov 22, 2009 6:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

why would they have Adrian Peterson?

"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09

by cjmulrain on Nov 22, 2009 7:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No Long balls

I think having Ross back made a huge difference and we missed AP calling ot the D

by greg a on Nov 22, 2009 5:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

What defensive coordination?

The defense often seems confused. And pass rush? Where?
The talent is there, but the coaching ain’t what it used to be. Imagine what the result will be when the Giants have to play a good team, not another mediocre one like Atlanta. But frankly, mediocre (middle of the pack) also describes us right now.

by AreGiantsToast on Nov 22, 2009 5:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

who is not mediocre?

The Saints and Vikings.

That’s it.

And guess what. Those 2 teams? Not making it to the SB (that’s a guess….but the best Reg season teams have not made it recently in the NFC).

Every one else is up for grabs.

Giants got a leg up after this one.

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 22, 2009 5:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agree

Remember who was the best team last year after 10, 11 weeks? And what did that get them?

by blains2000 on Nov 22, 2009 5:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

well said

yes sir. mediocre teams, quite often, are super bowl winning teams. i don’t feel bad admitting the 2007 giants were a mediocre team who went on a nice little 3-game run, with the help of timely defense and a whooooole lot of luck.

by tulls200 on Nov 22, 2009 5:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

But we were

THE CHAMPS. And no one can argue with the CHAMPS

by wangstu13 on Nov 22, 2009 5:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

damn right.

i’d certainly argue that the patriots were a hell of a lot better than the giants were, but you know what, it doesn’t matter who’d win the most games out of 100 – we won the super bowl, and they did not.

by tulls200 on Nov 22, 2009 5:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Saints

I think the longer they go undefeated, the more it weakens them for the playoffs. Every team that plays them brings it and it can really wear on you. A lot of people think the Patriots would have been better of losing earlier in 2007.

by Mount17 on Nov 22, 2009 5:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

and I mean...

c’mon..

Brett Farve is playing lights out right now.

YOu think this will last?

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 22, 2009 5:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

actually yea i kinda do

they have such a good team. Very well balanced.

by wangstu13 on Nov 22, 2009 5:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

in a dome though

the NFL’s dirty little secret is that Favre hasn’t been a good cold weather QB since about 1998. If he stays healthy, playing in a dome is gonna be a huge boon for him down the stretch and in the playoffs

"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09

by cjmulrain on Nov 22, 2009 7:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

haha

i guess i’m on my own in defending sheridan and placing blame where i think it belongs – on the players. secondary looks confused because it’s full of mediocre players. defensive line is not getting pressure because as painful as it is to say this, it’s an overrated unit.

that being said, bad defenses can turn into good defenses and go on a run pretty quickly (see: ’06 colts, ’07 giants, ’09 cardinals)…. so hope is not lost.

by tulls200 on Nov 22, 2009 5:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree....

Blaming Sheridan is a weak cop out for many.

He is not off the hook tho. The blitzes were nice…but they weren’t working and also…too many in #.

I don’;t understand all the full-house blitzes.

But overall…the players seemed confused entirely too much. I think its cuz of rooks like Bruce Johnson, piles of crap like Rouse and CC Brown and also inexperience in the system with guys like Boley being only in his 3rd or so real game with the Giants.

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 22, 2009 5:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sheridan

Sheridan is the problem not the players , he call the blitz at the wrong time with the wrong players ,he never blitz on 2nd and 3rd and long he always drop everybody back in those situations,that’s why the defense could not get off the field .

by nickyb4898 on Nov 22, 2009 5:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

of course!!!

the coach can never win.

He’s not the total blame.

He’s blitzing too much..yea. But when he does blitz (which is most definitely on 2nd and 3rd down..what are YOU watching…) the PLAYERS aren’t making the sack or hit.

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 22, 2009 5:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

As the Buzzcock's say -- "everybody's happy..."

I’m happy — though some think I’m some kind’ve self-loathing depressive simply for pointing out what should be obvious to all. That said, great game by Eli. The O line is troublesome.
The D is often a liability. Pass rush sucked. Eli, Boss, Manningham, Nicks, were great. Secondary sucked. Eli Boss, Manningham, Nicks were great. Special teams sucked (why does it feel like a millennia passes before you see a Giant enter the picture on kick and punt coverage.) Eli, Boss, Manningham, Nicks, were great. See, I honor the good as well as the bad. I’ll use the Cavuto question mark: Giants, fixable on defense, or the trip wire for playoff hopes? Eli was great.

by ZILLAG on Nov 22, 2009 5:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Dude it's not that you are just pointing out the obvious

it’s that you seem much more concerned with letting everyone know that you were right. It also really comes off that you are happier with your gloom and doom appearing to be right, even if it means poor results for the team you are supposed to be rooting for.

Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!

by bigbluethruandthru on Nov 22, 2009 5:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You're right, I need to rethink my approach...

Negativity sucks. That said, the D sucks too. Is it fixable? Fingers crossed in Denver. Go Giants.

by ZILLAG on Nov 22, 2009 5:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

First impressions

I admit I thought you were a troll, but like most first impressions, I was wrong

I guess everyone needs that bitter pessimist, who’s always happy when he’s wrong

The Cowboys are the France of the NFL
-thwalls

On 3rd down, throw it to Smith.

by Willgfass on Nov 22, 2009 6:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Everyone seems to be letting Sheridan

off the hook this week, blaming the players, it’s true the player make the mistakes, but doesn’t it come down to coaching when your’r offsides so often? getting called for defensive holding when it’s totally not necessary, giving Atl a 1st down on 3rd and long? To me that comes down to coaching, the defense looks undisciplined, not what you expect from the Giants.

by BigBlueCrew_jfl on Nov 22, 2009 5:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

fully agree

Someone said earlier you can’t blame coughlin for penalties, you absolutely should blame him, those are on him. As head coach, if your team is playing sloppy, its up to you to put a foot in there ass and get them refocused. That is what TC preaches, he needs to be a man of his word.

by wilddre22 on Nov 22, 2009 5:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

COUGHLIN!!

is NOT committing the penalties.

They did fix the false start penalties and I think those are the biggest ones he needed to fix and did.

Many others, like the late hits…were really not late hits. Can’t fault a guy too much for playing hard.

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 22, 2009 5:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

coughlin

Didn’t commit the penalties. He also didn’t throw that int in the 1st quarter. He doesn’t fumble the ball, he doesn’t get sealed off on a block on an HB draw. Does that mean he’s not culpable for anything that goes wrong on this team?

We can blame KG and BS freely on here, hell I’ve even read some complaints about Reese for not shoring up the secondary. But TC can’t be taken to task for all these penalties, week after week?

No sir, I like Tom, but I’m calling him out on that.

by wilddre22 on Nov 22, 2009 6:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

I agree...

I just don’t understand why he’s the sole reason for blame?

He’s part of it. But he’s not on the field so the player HAS to be part of it too.

There’s only so much that yelling can do.

Part of it is luck and what the refs see too. You gotta count that in there.

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 22, 2009 6:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Under the "What the Refs See or Don't See Column"

There was substantial “hands to the face” action going on that was completely missed.

We didn't even have a chance for the "perfect season", but we did have the perfect ending.

by GAgiantfan on Nov 22, 2009 8:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

don't forget the clear

facemask on Bradshaw.

there must be utter denial of penalties against the Giatns ,cuz Moose and Goose even said that the defender was “holding the shoulder pads”.

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 22, 2009 8:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No no, not the sole reason

My comment might read like that, but that’s not what i meant. I meant as head coach, one who preaches clean games, no dumb mistakes that would kill you, etc., that when your word isn’t heeded, you have to take part in that blame. Luckily this week it didn’t kill us.

by wilddre22 on Nov 22, 2009 9:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

its both.

can only discipline a player so much.

Some people are so quick to let the players off the hook.

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 22, 2009 5:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

“a team that commits a lot of penalties is a poorly coached team.” really?? or do people just say that because it’s just the typical conventional thinking, and has always been assumed?

in my opinion, the statement should be the following: “a team that commits a lot of penalties has players that commit more penalties than other teams.” coaches are rarely to blame for stupid penalties.

by tulls200 on Nov 22, 2009 5:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

How is it

the coaches fault when a guy commits a stupid defensive holding penalty? Some things you can blame on the coach, but not that.

by Ed Valentine on Nov 22, 2009 6:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It was getting old quickly

to see them make a stop on first, make a stop on second, then on third-and-eight or more, completely miss the play altogether to be beaten for 10 or so yards.
Positioning has to do with coaching, no doubts. We looked as if we were lost out there on many occasions.

We didn't even have a chance for the "perfect season", but we did have the perfect ending.

by GAgiantfan on Nov 22, 2009 8:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I hope you guys beat the hell out of the Saints next time

and beat the Eagles too in the Bird Bowl.

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 22, 2009 5:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

f-ing redskins

could have used their help today — that was one of the worst games i’ve seen in a long time. reminded me of last year’s bengals/eagles game. if dallas was playing any other team in the nfl, they lose today and the giants are tied atop the division. stupid redskins!!!!!

by tulls200 on Nov 22, 2009 5:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Dave. Luck to you as well unless it impacts us!

by lboogie25 on Nov 22, 2009 5:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Dave you truly are a class act..

..and I mean it..This game could have gone the other way easily..Good luck to you guys also..you have a good football team there..This is one of the rare games I’ve seen where a flubbed coin toss determined the outcome of a game.

by Bobbiblue on Nov 22, 2009 11:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

not the players

We have better players than last year and it wasn,t that bad.

by nickyb4898 on Nov 22, 2009 5:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I disagree with those who always blame penalties on coaches. Often, a player who is outclassed gets penalties trying to compensate. Defensive linemen who cannot quite get to the qb or runner will attempt to anticipate the snap count. Offensive linemen will also try to movea split second early. I have been a Giants fan for 45 years, but that does not stop me from being objective. I hope they are able to win out and make the playoffs ..

by Boyce R on Nov 22, 2009 5:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I see your point, but there are some coaches

whose teams are noted for getting far fewer than the norm (Don Shula, e.g.)

by blue gonz on Nov 22, 2009 5:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

correct

well said. as i mentioned above, i never agreed with the conventional wisdom that “a team that commits a lot of penalties is a poorly coached team” . to me, a team that commits a lot of penalties is a team that has PLAYERS which commit, on average, more penalties than other players.

doesn’t that seem more accurate, and less of one of those stupid, generalized statements that people like to throw around?

by tulls200 on Nov 22, 2009 5:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

its not even always that

players are taught from pop warner that its not a penalty if you don’t get caught. every play something happens that refs don’t call. one falcons score showed a replay of osi getting manhandled to the ground with no flag.

by cntrlalt on Nov 22, 2009 5:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ok

if you’re saying that luck is a major part of it, i’ll completely agree with that – it’s one of those things that’s a major factor, but the ‘experts’ don’t ever attribute to wins.

by tulls200 on Nov 22, 2009 5:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm watching highlights right now

On a big play to jenkins for the flacons, the defensive tackle (not sure who) was held so obviously. But yeah, nowhere near everything is called.

Right now we got a win, and that’s all that matter to me right now

The Cowboys are the France of the NFL
-thwalls

On 3rd down, throw it to Smith.

by Willgfass on Nov 22, 2009 6:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yea I agree.

the coach isn’t out there playing.

I think the abscence of false starts…showed that Coughlin did a good job of correcting the penalties.

The other things, like defensive holding..are the players fault. Things like the Late hits…I blame more on the refs fore calling a puss game.

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 22, 2009 5:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

haha

i missed the one that the giants committed mid-4th quarter, so can’t comment on whether it was a chicken sh** call.

by tulls200 on Nov 22, 2009 5:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Its just...

if a guy is gonna tight rope the sideline, you want to prevent that. Why is it a late hit? The guy has one foot in bounds too, how are you gonna call that a late hit?

Shouldn’t he be completely out of bounds??

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 22, 2009 5:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

terrible call

refs totally blew that one. he was either inbounds or very early out of bounds. a play like that should be intent of the tackler. rouse was clearly already looking to make the tackle as he was going out of bounds.

by cntrlalt on Nov 22, 2009 5:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ah

typical aaron rouse. being a long-time virginia tech fan, i knew he wouldn’t be all that solid of an nfl player.

by tulls200 on Nov 22, 2009 5:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

if you're basing that

on that one play, i don’t agree…i think he played with passion and was on the wrong end of a bad call. so far he’s looked ok, room for improvement definitely but he’s very young and is talented.

by cntrlalt on Nov 22, 2009 6:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

terrible

That late hit was a terrible call,the guy was still inbound.

by nickyb4898 on Nov 22, 2009 5:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Despite my feeling that it would be better for him to go on IR,

get his op and heal for next year, I’ve got to admit I was happy to see AB could fill in when Jake went down. I like Ware’s running a lot, but his blocking worries me (although he had one great one today.) AB wasn’t fully himself, but he looked better than he has in the last few games. Blackburn played well, better than AP has been playing. I hope he can keep it up. If we can get past Denver. we’ll have a nice hiatus to get ourselves together before we face the ’boys again.

by blue gonz on Nov 22, 2009 5:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think we gotta realize

we’re a passing team right now.

I thought Eli showed that he is absolutely healthy and was on point with most of his passes and downright incredible with others (finally Steve Smith held onto a deep ball !!!)

I mean…we can all talk about the running game and the need for it…but when its not working, why would you go to it?

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 22, 2009 5:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

although being able to pound it more certainly helps when you’re trying to protect a lead.

by the way, speaking of those deep balls, where are all those gilbride haters today who were all pissed off about the 3rd-and-short long balls that failed the last few weeks?

by tulls200 on Nov 22, 2009 5:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yea..

I was one of em..but I always said, it was WHEN they did it.

When they work..they’re good.

That’s the breaks of the game.

Luck pretty much throughout this game, was on the Giants side.

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 22, 2009 5:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't like the calls, but I cheered when they worked.

That’s part of being a fan. Were they helpful? Hell yes. Am I worried that it’s going to encourage him to pull them out some more? Yes, yes I am.

Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!

by bigbluethruandthru on Nov 22, 2009 7:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

this

just b/c throwing deep on 3rd and short worked today doesn’t mean they should be doing it a lot. It’s still a low percentage play, and when you’re defense is getting carved up like swiss cheese ball control is just as if not more important than quick strikes

"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09

by cjmulrain on Nov 22, 2009 7:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You're right, cj,

but it was sure nice to see them working for a change. The chemistry betwwen Eli and the receivers is better. Will it look so easy against a team with two good CBs?

by blue gonz on Nov 22, 2009 9:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not a KG hater

but I’m not too keen on his play-calling sometimes. We started off unpredictably and it worked. He’s not off the hook with me yet, though – we SHOULD have torn this defense apart with the passing game. Everyone knew it, too.

We didn't even have a chance for the "perfect season", but we did have the perfect ending.

by GAgiantfan on Nov 22, 2009 8:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

We did

tear this team apart with the passing game. That’s how Eli ended up with almost 400 yards.

by Ed Valentine on Nov 22, 2009 9:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeh, that's what I meant

As in, “This wasn’t rocket science” – I think we all knew (or thought we knew) that passing would probably benefit us better in this game. I didn’t expect to see anything more than token run plays.

We didn't even have a chance for the "perfect season", but we did have the perfect ending.

by GAgiantfan on Nov 23, 2009 10:00 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Kudos

The offense was great and I am glad to see they finally start using Boss on offense one other thing the offensive line had a terrible first quarter after that they weren’t too bad the rest of the way.

by nickyb4898 on Nov 22, 2009 6:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That Steve Smith catch made my day

So many times Smith would be wide open and the ball would sail jussstttt over him. And now he’s got one. To many more Steve Smith bombs!

The Cowboys are the France of the NFL
-thwalls

On 3rd down, throw it to Smith.

by Willgfass on Nov 22, 2009 6:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

We're a passing team,

all right, and we’ll to stay that way as long as opposing Ds put priority on stopping the run. I hope we can keep it up when the swirling winds hit the Meadowlands. Eli had pretty good protection today and he and the recivers looked good as well.

by blue gonz on Nov 22, 2009 7:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think we should all thank global warming

Its the middle of november, and you can feel warm in a long sleeve shirt and jeans in northern new jersey.

Maybe they should have added a dome to the new stadium

The Cowboys are the France of the NFL
-thwalls

On 3rd down, throw it to Smith.

by Willgfass on Nov 22, 2009 7:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

..

not that it’s a good percentage move, but it’s easy to side with gilbride given how terrible and overrated of a short-yardage back jacobs is. if you’re not gonna hand it to bradshaw, chuck it deep in single coverage.

by tulls200 on Nov 22, 2009 5:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

He had a pretty good TD run

Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!

by bigbluethruandthru on Nov 22, 2009 7:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Funny

but I long for the days when the G-men won 13-9.

by Carson Lives! on Nov 22, 2009 5:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

yea..

the lack of a defense that can hold a 2 score lead is definitely missing.

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 22, 2009 6:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

and it’s not like we’ve always had a secondary full of pro bowlers. there’s just something about this team that gives me a bad feeling sitting on a lead.

by tulls200 on Nov 22, 2009 6:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Webster is very good

TT is pretty good too, our safeties aren’t.

Ross helped a bit.

Its more the front 4.

I mean Strahan was an absolute beast, missing him and replacing him with Kiwi…really not an even swap.

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 22, 2009 6:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

TT

is very good. can’t remember if he was late 2nd round or early 3rd, but i’ll chalk that one up as yet another ‘hit’ for j.reese. this guy can play.

by tulls200 on Nov 22, 2009 6:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I long for the days when the Giants

had backs who could punch it over for a TD on short yardage (e.g., OJ., Way, Hampton.)

by blue gonz on Nov 22, 2009 6:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd throw Jacobs in there too

he had 14 TD’s a few years ago.

I’m leaning towards both, but I don’t know if its the line or him. They can’t get a push for AB either so I think its a combo.

I do think Jake is a bit too tall for the short yardage thing. I’d much rather have a 5"11 bowling ball in there.

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 22, 2009 6:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I was at the game

and sometimes you could see plays develop better and from my take both the O-line and Jacobs are having issues. Holes don’t open up that well and when they do they are small and close quickley. On BJ’s end he is not hitting the hole quick or at full speed and he’s missing that window when the holes are open. Goose is right he’s not hitting the holes hard at all and since he’s not a cutback guy like Tiki was he’s struggling with small quick hitting holes. Thats my take watching it live.

by Landeta on Nov 22, 2009 8:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yea.

I’d like to see Danny Ware get some more time. I really don’t think it could hurt.

I think the only concern with him is the arm and if he can hold onto the ball, but the guy has a lot of speed, is bigger than AB…and one key ingredient…IS HUNGRY for contact.

That’s what Jake is missing, that HUNGER.

Ware may have that. Use him against Denver please..

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 22, 2009 8:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone got a Bears jersey????

I sure as hell am rooting big for them tonight!

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 22, 2009 6:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Still just so, so, so upset

about that Redskins game. Winning or tied at 0 for 56 minutes and you give up a TD at the end to lose by a single point in a 7-6 game. And TWO missed field goals. Ugh. Just brutal…could have been in first place with that.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Nov 22, 2009 6:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

words can't describe

how bad that was. i typically enjoy laughing at two completely futile teams having a nice pillow fight, but as a giants fan i needed a dallas loss too much to see the humor in how bad it was. i’m still so pissed of at the ’skins.

by tulls200 on Nov 22, 2009 6:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agree

I guess we will just have to beat Dallas ourselves rather than rely on other teams to do our ‘dirty work’ for us.

He was like a god walking amongst mere mortals. He had a voice that could make a wolverine purr and suits so fine they made Sinatra look like a hobo.

by Johannus on Nov 22, 2009 6:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

let's hope

that same dallas offense rolls on into the meadowlands in a few weeks.

by tulls200 on Nov 22, 2009 6:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

let's face it

GMen did not play well.

But another “lousy” win at Denver and motivations gets easier.

Blackburn might have played OK but the D did not overall so..either did CB. If you are the QB of the defense you are graded by the defense as a whole.

Not sure what it will take but D has to step up.

by MSP Giant on Nov 22, 2009 6:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i don't know

how/why anyone would complain about not playing well.

with the way the Giants have looked the last month-plus, i’ll take a win regardless of how ugly it is. hell, the Cowboys put up seven points against the Redskins at home today. the Steelers lost to the Chiefs. shit happens. never takes wins for granted. ever.

by SBakerTheTouchdownMaker on Nov 22, 2009 7:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

***

Bengals…who were in the SB on Saturday…lost to the Raiders.

SHIT HAPPENS!

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 22, 2009 7:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed. I'll take the win too.

We can only hope that we quit stinking it up in certain areas consistently.

We didn't even have a chance for the "perfect season", but we did have the perfect ending.

by GAgiantfan on Nov 22, 2009 8:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'll admit, a lot of good things from today's game ...

1. The W.

2. Eli hit some good long passes – last one to Smith was a perfect throw.

3. Manningham, Nicks and Smith look like a formidable 3-wide formation – need to see more of it.

4. Great call by the Falcons of “tails” in OT. Key to the game, really./

But if we’re serious about being Supe contenders (and with this talent and Supe XLII in recent memory, it’s hard not to have those kind of aspirations …), we do not look like a serious contender at this point.

Doesn’t mean we can’t get on a roll in the last 6 games, and go into the play-offs with some momentum … but this level of effort, execution, and especially coaching “not to lose” just isn’t going to get it done. Just “keepin’ it real …”

by Shofner85 on Nov 22, 2009 7:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Remember our last 4 Supe appearances ...

1. In 1986 I remember a Monday New York Post headline in mid-December: “Giant Juggernaut !”

2. In 1990 – started 10-0

3. In 2000 – finished 5-0 after Fassel pushed all his “chips to the center of the table”, and blew through the playoffs.

4. 2007 – only really got on a roll in that loss to the “Perfect Pats” (so it’s never too late to get that roll going, apparently).

Just not seeing that momentum from the 2009 version. Better get it in gear soon …

by Shofner85 on Nov 22, 2009 7:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

all you mention...

is in at the end of the season.

We can win crappy now (we did it in 2000 and 2007).

As long as we make the playoffs, it really doesn’t matter.

Ask the Cardinals if playing week 16 & 17 matters?

GET INTO the playoffs. Take it from there.

I admit, if they got in and got the crap kicked out of them this year, it will be more tolerable cuz we at least know the D sucks. Last year was all WTF just happened?

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 22, 2009 7:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I saw very little good today

besides for Eli & WR’s.

Other than early on the O-line passed blocked pretty good but sturggled in run blocking.

RB’s are not getting it done either.

Webster was very good rest of the secondary was slow confused and out of position most of the day and did not tackle great

D-Line and LB’s sucked, Gonzalez ripped Boley apart. Tuck made and nice play with the sack and forced fumbled that was all, he gets tired and can’t play a full four quarters and does nothing late in the game when they need him.

ATL ran the ball well when they needed. Canty and Bernard are a waste of time they do nothing when they are in there the Falcons ran well at Canty most of the day.

I’m sorry, I happy they won but I doubt there winnning many more games the rest of the way. They beat a mirror image of themselves with a little less talent. The Giants are mediorce.

by Landeta on Nov 22, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

you can say that...

but a win is a win.

They got downward spiraling Broncos team on Thursday. The short week stinks yea, but it couldn’t be a better time to play Denver.

I disagree on the D-Line…well, just not Osi and Tuck. I thought they played well.

The middle of the D-Line was pretty bad aside from a few plays.

They looked tired and I thought that the 2 new guys were supposed to give Cofield and Robbins a breather…but they stink when they are in there.

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 22, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yea I know I'm negative but

you have to admit if they don’t start running the ball and playing good D, they won’t make the playoffs and through 10 games they have not done either with any sort of consistencey. They can’t rely on Eli and the passing game as the weather turns bad.

by Landeta on Nov 22, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree the running game's gonna have to come back to life...

but I said it before…THIS GAME, how they play doesn’t bother me as long as they get a win.

That’s all.

If against Denver the D struggles…we’re in trouble.

What you gotta realize…ATL’s offense is DAMN good. Matt Ryan’s been slumping, but the kid’s a winner and did everything to help his team win.

Tony G, M. Jenkins, Roddy White, their RB Snelling is more like McLain, the FB from the Ravens, he’s a good power back.

I think the running game will get better as the year goes one. As we use it more and put it in a rhythm.

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 23, 2009 6:42 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Off-topic

The Bengals are like 30 seconds away from being 9-1 instead of 7-3 (Broncos loss & today). Just brutal losses for them.

"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09

by cjmulrain on Nov 22, 2009 7:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The whole AFC North lost today

If the bears win, than the whole NFC North will have won.

I think the bengals will bounce back. Hopefully the Raiders bring this momentum to thanksgiving and beat the Cowboys. That would make my thanksgiving (assuming the giants won)

The Cowboys are the France of the NFL
-thwalls

On 3rd down, throw it to Smith.

by Willgfass on Nov 22, 2009 7:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Raiders looked good today.

amazing when your QB isn’t completely useless what a team like the Raiders can do.

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 22, 2009 7:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not just the raiders

How about the Lions and the Browns? From the highlights, it looked like the best game on

The Cowboys are the France of the NFL
-thwalls

On 3rd down, throw it to Smith.

by Willgfass on Nov 22, 2009 7:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

goes every way...

they barely beat Pittsburgh both times, the Ravens and the BROWNS.

They got some luck too in their favor.

I’m sure they’d rather have some back luck against the Broncos and Raiders when it happened.

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 22, 2009 7:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm blaming the defensive collapse on Sheridan again

for a 2nd straight week the defense couldn’t stop the other team when it mattered. In the first half when BS was dropping more people into coverage and the Dline was getting coverage sacks BUT for the last drive once again he kept doing the exact same blitz that the falcons adjusted to and were picking up and Ryan was getting the ball out quick and moving the ball downfield

so tl;dr

we aren’t doing anything in the postseason with this horrible horrible defensive play caller

by mclaren_is_the_best on Nov 22, 2009 7:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm sorry but it's tough to be positve after that performance today

If that coin ends up tails the Giants loose. It’s more of the same. They did not improve much today and they have’nt all year. I’m still waiting for Jacobs to break out and the D-line to dominate.

by Landeta on Nov 22, 2009 10:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

its all luck

we got very unlucky in 2 out of those 4 loses…they could’ve swung the other way.

LUCK is a big part of it all.

Thank the football gods.

a win is a win for this ATL game. Didn’t matter how, just do it.

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 23, 2009 6:43 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, this was one game ...

where at least they tried to bring pressure early and often. Even sent 7 on occasion !!

The worrisome thing is … no one is making a play, beating their man and getting home to the QB. Very few pressures on Ryan.

I thought going into this season that the 7 DL rotation was going to be dominant (and keep guys fresh so we wouldn’t collapse in the 4th Quarter). It’s not even good. Major disappointment.

by Shofner85 on Nov 22, 2009 8:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I've said it before and I say it once more:

I’ll take the win.
And I’ve said this before, and it seems to be a recurring theme: We wouldn’t have been in the overtime situation with Tynes making all his field goals. I don’t trust him as he rarely, if ever, gets a kickoff into the endzone; but he’s Johnny-on-the-spot for about one missed field goal per game. I don’t trust him. A scoring liability and a field position liability rolled into one.

This game today was won clearly because of the offense, and the passing game in particular.

The defense looked more like they had prepared for two hours rather than for 2 weeks.
IMO, a lot of that is coaching.

We didn't even have a chance for the "perfect season", but we did have the perfect ending.

by GAgiantfan on Nov 22, 2009 8:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nicks

went in to get xrays after the game. anyone know the diagnosis?

by haakeem the dream on Nov 22, 2009 8:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

really?

The news just gets better doesn’t it!

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 22, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

afraid so.

im guessing it was on his foot. we cant afford to lose nicks, especially with our stellar running game right now.

by haakeem the dream on Nov 22, 2009 8:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

That stinks. Hope he's alright.

We didn't even have a chance for the "perfect season", but we did have the perfect ending.

by GAgiantfan on Nov 22, 2009 8:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Reading all of these comments, you'd think the Giants lost.

I know the Giants have issues and we can rehash that during the short week. But let’s keep it in perspective that the Giants won the game and are in better shape for the playoffs that they were before the game.

by The Cycle on Nov 22, 2009 9:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm more than excited that we won

but the truth is, there are constants right now in the kicking game and within the defense that will send us home when it counts – unless we address them.

We didn't even have a chance for the "perfect season", but we did have the perfect ending.

by GAgiantfan on Nov 23, 2009 10:04 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I can't believe tuck didn't get that interception

wait, what?

I thought we agree BS that we wouldn’t have any more of that zone blitz nonsense.

Even though that one worked spectacularly, and is only what I hope a properly executed zone blitz should look like.

The Cowboys are the France of the NFL
-thwalls

On 3rd down, throw it to Smith.

by Willgfass on Nov 22, 2009 9:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The difference

on that zone blitz was that Tuck has safety help. He wasn’t alone. All he had to do was stay underneath. A much better design.

by Ed Valentine on Nov 22, 2009 9:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yea..

when Tuck is going out over the middle and actually covering a TE down the field…that’s where Sheridan should be taken out back and shot.

But if Tuck is just going back in coverage and staying in a small zone…..really nothing wrong with that. Its actually a good deceptive play.

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 22, 2009 10:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Cool

that’s why I disclaimed it with my
 “it is only what I hope a properly executed zone blitz should look like”

So yeah. Bummer he didn’t get that INT though, we could have called it a game without OT.

The Cowboys are the France of the NFL
-thwalls

On 3rd down, throw it to Smith.

by Willgfass on Nov 22, 2009 10:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well..this wasn't pretty..

But I’ll take the win..Our defense played well but certainly not up to their talent..Rouse got ripped off by the referees on a late hit (that crew needs to be replaced because they stunk)… but all in all the defense did a halfway decent job considering A) They have not played to their potential at all this year, and B) The turmoil caused by losing AP has had on the team this week. I will give AP major kudos for being there on the sideline to counsel and cheer Blackburn and Co. on..Overall our defense still is a mystery to me..We are making bonehead plays out there, and making struggling offenses look like pro-bowl caliber units.
I also think it truly sucks that the league allows cheap knee shots to running backs, yet can enforce “The Brady Rule”..Players are dead-aimed on Jacobs knees..Part or most of that is caused by the fact that he runs too upright..but if I was him I’d say screw gaining a yard, I’m going to punish this punk that is going after my knees..a couple of 260 pound smash mouth hits to these little people will send a message: “F with me, and you’ll pay the price”..Overall the running attack needs balancing now that Ware is back in the fold..They’ll figure that out..The offense did a decent job today..Mario, Nicks and Smitty looked great..Eli had a career home game throwing, but he still can’t seem to put it all together in a single drive..Feagles did a good job punting, and Tynes just plain stinks..He can’t hit the end-zone on his kick-offs and is constantly giving the opposition a 60 yard field to play on..The crazy thing about him is that if it is a 40-50 yard attempt he is dead nuts accurate..If you leave him with a chip-shot, he sucks…What won this game for us was a ‘coin’..I wish I had it because I would drive up to Atlantic city and play a slot machine with it..that’s a certain jackpot..But anyhow, let’s not get our hopes up with this win in the long haul..The only thing we can hope for is that the Cowgirls, Redskins and Eagles continue to struggle along with us..but then we’ll face some really hungry teams..that is where the real competition will come from..outside of our dismal division..The vaunted NFL East is playing like crap.

by Bobbiblue on Nov 23, 2009 12:40 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

yup
The vaunted NFL East is playing like crap.

But maybe its just blind homerism….but I think the top 3 BEast teams are getting in….and going deep.

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 23, 2009 6:44 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

The rest of the NFC isn’t exactly tearing it up.

The division crown is still very open, and Right now the Giants, Cowboys, and Eagles all have destiny in their own hands

The Cowboys are the France of the NFL
-thwalls

On 3rd down, throw it to Smith.

by Willgfass on Nov 23, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

All that counts is the W....

Now we get to play a reeling broncos team whose defense is in worse shape than ours, who have MAJOR QB issues, and have lost 4 in a row after being anointed after 6 games. We win this and we’re in great shape.

by sexyscottish on Nov 23, 2009 12:54 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

It feels good to be on the winning side again

Like Eli said this is a seven game season and we are 1-0. Offense was good today. Wish we could run the ball like we did last year, but BJ and AB are banged up and have to rely on the passing game a little more. Our offense should revolve around BJ regardless and I hope we can improve on this as the season goes on.

Defense is absolute garbage and I think it starts with Sheridan. He blitzes too often and they are so predictable. We have a hard time pressuring the quarterback even with 6,7,8 guys rushing the qb. I also think Sheridan doesn’t make good adjustments during the game. In the San Diego game, Webster couldn’t cover Vincent Jackson and on the last drive was left out to dry w/o any help against a 6’5" reciever. Today, we contained Gonzalez for three quarters but he must have had all his catches in the 4th. Yes he’s a HOF TE, but shouldn’t we do our best to keep it out of his hands! I hope the defense can gel quickly and avoid the injury bug because we cant win like this every Sunday.

by dpl917 on Nov 23, 2009 2:04 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

DEFENCE?

I agree the Giants would have lost if they had lost the coin toss, you have to be sick if you’re a Falcon fan. I’ll take the win and hope Denver is as inept as they’ve looked lately.

by 7mike on Nov 23, 2009 9:38 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm in the "win is a win" camp

but I also agree with those who have commented that if Sheridan can’t make this talented defense click and hold leads and hold teams under 30 points, we are not going to the promised land

You play to win the game!

by Simms-McConkey on Nov 23, 2009 10:50 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

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