Then why not game plan shoter, more high percentage passes, and certainly not audible into long heaves down the field if Eli cannot throw the deep ball effectively right now?

We fans can watch him set up and throw..it doesn’t look like he can’t plant it and throw, but how do we know?..Only Eli and the coaching staff and trainers know..On the sideline I could see anybody looking at his foot..So who knows really..If in fact he is hurting then they need to address that…and yes the coaches are to blame.

If and when the injury does heal, he’ll be fighting the bad habits..I said it before put Carr in there and make him stay off of the foot.

There is a lack of urgency and intensity that was especially exhibited yesterday in the offense’s slow movement up and the field without going no huddle. Philly’s D could relax and size everyone up and the Giants, especially Eli, once again never got into rhythm. Like the New Orleans game the Giants comeback was fleeting. The offense’s failure to sustain drives creates even more problems for the defense as they appear worn out at times (not sure of TOP however, just my observation).

Eli looks out of sorts. His throws are inaccurate and he looks like confidence is lost. He scrambeld a few times and managed to gain some yards yesterday so I don’t know how the foot is feeling, but if I had to guess he is concerned about re-injury.

One thing that seemed to have sustained the 07 Giants, (or which was created by the media) was the chip on the shoulder the Giants played with as no one expected them to win. That seems to have been lost. Hopefully some humility will re-inspire them to prove their current doubters wrong.

yesterday’s defeat was a team effort. Eli, OL, DL, secondary all failed. Some thoughts about the game:

One, in all my decades of watching football, I have never seen anything like the way the Giants played the second half. Back 3 scores, they went about returning to the huddle and getting off the next play like they were ahead by 3 scores. It was utterly bizarre. Even the commentators noticed it.

Two, behind by more than 21 points the Giants still kept running the ball in the 3rd and 4th quarters. I realize that you don’t want to give up the run too early, but this was like the 3 stooges.

Three, the Giants again failed to make any adjustments (sticking with the run was only one example), and again, clearly had no plan B. Their coaching seems to consist of: We will impose our game plan by our superiority and taking and maintaining the lead. But when they don’t do this, they’re totally lost and without a clue as to what to do.

Fourth, everyone is on Eli, and with some justification. But this guy is a great quarterback as he proved in 2007. He certainly hasn’t lost anything because of his age, although he may have because of his injury.

But he is also getting pressured, while having to play from (far) behind, all the while (apparently) having communication problems with the plays and overall offense.

In prior years Eli had more options than he does now (no huddle, screens and short passes that worked).

Giants need to deterimine whether his foot his causing real problems. If so, they have to bring in Carr. Also need to determine if the current offensive design suits this quarterback.

Finally, after last week’s loss we were told the team was going to go back to basics. It’s scary when you fail to do this.

The lack of urgency was driving me crazy..They saunter back to the huddle saunter up to the line and Eli lets the play-clock run down to less than three seconds before getting a play off..Alwful game time management..They should have no-huddled in the first half…The second half?..What a pitiful lack up hurry up..

As a long time Giant fan, I have seen a lot of Giants teams that had very mediocre offenses. That may be frustrating at times, but does not bother me to nearly the level of anger I feel about the way the defense is currently playing. I expect the New York Giants to play good defense. Why are we all talking about the offense when it was the defense(and some pretty bad special teams) that put the team into a 16-0 hole in the first quarter? When you start playing offense like you have to score 50 points in order to win the game mistakes are going to happen. I think the offense could be playing better, and they will turn it around.

Our pathetic embarassment of a defense is another matter. They simply do not look like a well coached team out there. They can’t stop the run or the pass, making them Burger King—the offense can “have it your way.” There are breakdowns galore in the secondary and they are obvoiusly not maintaining their gaps in the run game. On NFL Network they showed many angles and studied the 54 yard touchdown by Jackson. I DON’T KNOW WHAT OUR DEFENSE WAS DOING ON THAT PLAY! Webster played 8 yards off of him, let him run freely off the line (Jackson weighs 160 lbs, Webster should be able to hold that pip squeak up at the line for 10 seconds), and then after about 15 yards let Jackson run right by him and stopped to cover an underneath route that was already defended, handing Jackson to CC Brown, who was playing the deep middle and had no prayer of getting over there to cover him.

If I was Coughlin and Reese I would give Sheridan one more week to straighten this thing out or he’s fired. Giunta has been a coordinator before. I would give him the job during the bye week and see what happens.

calm certainty in the positive trajectory of Giants’ teams under its current leadership. This certainty was based on my irrational belief that, “Lady Luck owes us.”
I was referring to the two losses in championship games when YA led an aerial circus and the best offense in the NFL, but came to grief twice because of miserable weather conditions (including gale force winds.) Let us not forget another championship game when the incomparable YA had ligaments torn by a helmet tackle to his knee (a foul today.) He played with leg wrapped from ankle to thigh, dosed with pain killers, but couldn’t plant his lead foot (sound familiar?) Threw five interceptions. I believe. Then, of course, there wase the what seemed like eternal drought of the Wilderness Years, not to mention that year not so long ago when we entered the playoffs with three LBs who weren’t even on the roster on opening day. Surely after all those misfortunes, my belief that Lady Luck would smile on us for an extended period was not unfounded?
Given the casualties to date, I think not.

Rivers, VJax, Gates, LDT, Sproles are going to make us look like the Raiders next Sunday. Its going to be a bloodbath.

If Eli continues with the bad decisions, he has to be benched. He’s giving the opposing team great field position which in turn affects our defense.

The David Carr era is upon us…

I’m going with the OC Killdrive is a large part of what is wrong with the O. His play callng is too predictable and they have given Eli to many options at the line with that big contract. One of the best moves they could make right now is shrink down the amount of audibles Eli has.

Next bring in extra tackles and strictly stuff the ball down the opposing D’s throat with BJ then leave em there for play action to Nicks or Smith.

Boley, Canty and Ross are all desperately needed Boley as we know helps the LB’s immensely, Canty will help Robbins and Cofield get some rest on those freshly repaired knees and Ross can move to safety to get Can’t Cover off the field and into the unemployment line. The part about Ross is an experiment I firmly believe in he CAN cover, he CAN tackle and has the closing speed not to be outrun by a fullback.

Then the players gave up 14 points in the last 2 mins of the half, and it was game over. And the Offense, the Defense, and the Special Teams ALL contributed to those last two 1st half TDs, and the coordinators had NOTHING to do with it.

When the Gianst scored to make it 16-7 inside 2 mins I thought OK, at least hold here, maybe even get the ball back and have time for another score. To give up 14 points in the last 2 mins of the half is just incompetence. And really, all 3 phases contributed.

Yes, I’d like to blame CC, cuz his coverage on the Jackson TD was as bad as you’ll ever see, but OTOH, eli pitched in, special teams lack of tackling kicked in, and there wasn’t anyone on the D who made a play.

the greatest example of false advertising in the history of football. They didn’t get it done at the end of last year, and they’re playing extra small this year. Forget about the DBs, CC surely sucks, no question, but it’s line that sets the tone and the only tone they set is a dial tone. On the O — Eli is, at this point, a liability every time he steps back to throw and the opposing DB’s know exactly where he’s going, and are able to jump on his wobbly ducks even when they don’t. BJ is slowed. The O line is bushed. And to make matters worse, the team is stumbling around with cartoon expressions on their faces as if they just get hit on the head by a fallen anvil. It’s as if they can’t believe this has happened to them. Even worse, they don’t have the answers, from the top to bottom, you hear it in their voices, see it in their eyes, they are scared and secretly believe that the season is about to become a disaster. And they are right. Two weeks ago I said Cards 21-17. Bingo. Last week I said Philly 31-17 (it was worse than even I thought) This week: Chargers 24-14. Sorry.

Eli, was never great and never will be…. we just need him not hurting the team with INT’s and fumbles. The loss of Andre Brown hurt… a power back with speed. The DLine and LB’s are the biggest problem..We have good players on the Line but they are not getting it done… no pressure means no wins….We have terrible LB’s …AP is awful , never in the right place and way to slow. Now to be a little fair…Injuries have killed us….. Gilbride has been terrible no logic to his play calling and very predictable?? Sheridan as far as I can see is also terrible…. he wont blitz enough to help a weak D backfield or create turn overs. Why not tell CC Brown he is never to play the run just stay back and defend against the deep pass.

… the player’s cannot execute, and the opposing team knows it. When they execute, then the play calling is good. I’m not saying KG is a great coordinator. I am saying the O cannot block, cannot run consistently, cannot pass. What it can do decently is catch — especially Smith and Nicks. It is the PLAYERS who, quite frankly, SUCK right now.

1. Other than stonehands Manningham, we’re not getting alot of separation. 2. Not all picks are Manning. It’s going to take time with all the new faces catching the ball to be on the page with Eli, and they will make mistakes. IMO Assante shouldn’t have had that ball had Beckham come back hard to the QB the way the route calls for. 3. The injuries on D are killing us. Think everyone has spoken on C.C. Finally, hopefully Ed you can help…Where is Barden? What is so wrong with this guy that he’s an inactive. 6’6" even eli can’t over throw that. I heard he can’t beat the press. Anybody here know what’s up?

but Boss is 6’7" and Eli has thrown over him (and he can jump.)

The Jints now know what it’s like to play with the target on their backs…

All three phases of the ball are to blame and I am starting with one of the biggest goats of this entire season and that’s Lawrence f&*n Tynes. He kicks the god dam ball to five yard line, if we’re lucky. The ball is kicked so low, that our coverage doesn’t meet until the 25 yard line. We can’t get off our blocks to make tackles. Pathetic. He’s the worst kicker I’ve ever seen. Where’s Daluiso, he must be Feagles age and able to still kick a few.

Enough is said about Brown. He was getting torched in the pre-season by third stringers. How the hell he made the final 53, let alone starting is beyond me.

The linebackers need to wake up and are the biggest liability on this team. They are unable to get pressure, stop the run or sit back in coverage. They can’t do anything. I can’t figure out what Pierce is doing anymore. His lack of coverage skills has been documented, but he just looks lost nowadays. About once a game, Blackburn is good for a tackle behind the line of scrimmage…. thanks. Boley showed some heart early this year. He can’t come back fast enough.

Finally, I am at a loss for words with Sherridan. His inability to make adjustments througout the game pisses me right off. He’s an embarassment. Third ranked defense my ass.

I have never been so frustrated with this ball club, and those were some long years Dave Brown.

OK Guy’s, check out my ratings for the Giants.
I’m a Giant fan, but being realistic.
Let’s see what you think.

Rating: 0 – 10

Giants:

Defense:
DL 7
Line backers 5
Secondary 4
Coach 5

Offense:
OL 6
Rushing 7
Receivers 7
QB 7
Coach 5

 Total 53/9=5.9average Total team rating =5.9 of 10

 Why punt if you got less then a yard to go .and why are they scared to punt long. they are scared of a return. and wined up at the 40 or the 50 yard line anyway .