New York Giants News & Notes: Jeff Feagles a Pro Bowler?
by cjmulrain on Nov 18, 2009 7:15 AM EST
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The 2007 Giants and Cowboys will both tell you that Pro Bowl balloting is a meaningless honor, but it's pretty funny that the only Giant who is currently leading his position in voting is punter Jeff Feagles, who has not been having his best season, to say the least. The Giants are a 5-4 team desperately clinging to their playoff hopes, so they shouldn't do as well as they did in Pro Bowl voting last year, but I have to think at least one of Chris Snee, Shaun O'Hara, or Justin Tuck deserves to be a starter.
Giants Enjoy Bye Week
With the Eagles and Cowboys losing and the Michael Turner injury, the Giants had their best Sunday in over a month. Ralph Vachianno recaps.
The bye also helped the Giants get refreshed, with reports that practice this week has been sharp.
Perhaps most importantly, Justin Tuck and Eli Manning were able to use the bye week to heal up some of their injuries. The Giants need those two as healthy as they can be if they want to contend for the Super Bowl this year.
Other Notes
- The Giants are lodging a complaint about having to travel to Denver to play on Thanksgiving on a shortened week.
- The NY Times 5th Down Blog continues its countdown of the top Giants moments at Giants Stadium with Tiki Barber's 206-yard game against the Redskins the Sunday after Wellington Mara passed away.
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Can Tuck hunt some QB this week?
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Nov 18, 2009 7:34 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
With only 3.5 sacks
and being injured, Tuck is going to have a hell of a time getting there. There’s currently a handful of DEs that have him beat. I think Osi would have a better shot. I always thought Osi was less consistent play by play and he disappeared a lot but I’ve seenn him make bigger plays than Tuck has this year.
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Nov 18, 2009 7:56 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Problem with Osi
Is he makes that one play, then doesn’t do anything else the rest of the game. I love the guy, but I will take Tuck because he shows up on every play.
by Ed Valentine on Nov 18, 2009 8:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"Bigger"
only in that he’s been stripping the ball from the QB when he gets there. So Osi has been going for the HUGE plays, but has only made it home a few times. If you watch every play, you’ll see that Tuck is a much better player because not only is he consistent and more disruptive, but he also plays well against the run (which Osi does not).
by potroast on Nov 18, 2009 9:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
And that is exactly what I have been saying about Osi vs. Tuck for many months now. I will take the guy who is there on every play, and who doesn’t take the gamble that results in giving up huge plays against the run.
by Ed Valentine on Nov 18, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
On the Pro Bowl thing Ed...
I don’t think any of the guys you mentioned deserve it. O’Hara maybe, but Snee or any other lineman no, they haven’t played well enough.
I agree with Joe, Tuck isn’t a PB player at this point. Not only cuz there’s better players out there, but cuz he’s not playing well (and I know he’s not 100%).
Osi might have a chance on the defense, but that’s it.
On offense, I think Steve Smith is the only one deserving. If he doesn’t get in, the whole thing is rigged.
I can’t think of anyone else…not like it really matters
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Nov 18, 2009 8:10 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
oh...
not Ed. My bad CJ.
But all a that anyway….
PS- Dallas sucks. Thank you.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Nov 18, 2009 12:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yea, I forgot to mention Steve Smith
I wrote this up right after finishing a 25-page paper, so my brain was a little fried. Also, I disagree about Snee and O’Hara – according to profootballfocus, Snee has been the 2nd best guard in the NFC and O’Hara has been the 2nd best center – it’s not their fault that the line as a whole has been worse than last year – David Diehl seems to have regressed a bit, and McKenzie’s been hurt
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
by cjmulrain on Nov 18, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I remember those old 25 pagers in college… although I’d trade them for law school work any day now haha
Jerry,
Please cut Antonio Pierce.
Thanks,
DB
by DukBudr on Nov 18, 2009 2:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm in law school
almost done, matter of fact. Luckily, I’ve finished the work for 2 of my classes this semester – unfortunately for me, the 25 page paper was the shortest one I had to write
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
by cjmulrain on Nov 18, 2009 3:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I've never written anything more than a 12 page paper...
what the hell could possibly go in a 25 or more page paper…I have no idea.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Nov 18, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
also lots and lots of tangentially related footnotes
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
by cjmulrain on Nov 18, 2009 6:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
at that point, just write a novel.
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Nov 19, 2009 9:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
great set of links cj
I am not getting my work done this morning
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Nov 18, 2009 8:14 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Its always rigged
Watch Roy Williams (Dallas) fumble and whine his way onto the PB team
Jerry,
Please cut Antonio Pierce.
Thanks,
DB
by DukBudr on Nov 18, 2009 8:18 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
While I think the Denver trip sucks, I find it odd that the Giants weren’t complaining about it at 5-0
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Nov 18, 2009 8:31 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
If they really cared about this
They should have lodged this complaint rignt when the schedule came out last year when it mattered. You can’t do jack shyt about it now, so you might as well shut up and deal with it.
by MJ20 on Nov 18, 2009 8:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I bet they did lodge the complaint much earlier
It’s just “news” now because their game is coming up.
by potroast on Nov 18, 2009 9:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No PB players
this year.
Not so far.
None.
by MSP Giant on Nov 18, 2009 9:41 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
why not Steve Smith?
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Nov 18, 2009 11:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
pro bowl...
smith is the only one that should be considered.
not feagles, tuck, o’hara, or snee….
"If you don't know what you're doing... just rush the quarterback" - LT
by andiamo708 on Nov 18, 2009 9:42 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Agreed..Smith is the only player that deserves it.
Feagles needs them to move the ball at least to the 40-45 yard line in order to work his magic, otherwise the other team gets a very short field..I don’t think he’s an all-pro Punter, in fact I think it is rather odd that he is leading the vote.
by Bobbiblue on Nov 18, 2009 12:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
it just goes to show ...
that the pro bowl is basically a popularity contest.
"If you don't know what you're doing... just rush the quarterback" - LT
by andiamo708 on Nov 18, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yea I don't understand either...
Feagles has been downright atrocious at times this year. He always great to pin inside the 20, but when he can’t do that, he’s a liability.
Its probably just some early season joke, like the Redskins fans voting bombastically the entire team in the Pro-Bowl last year.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Nov 18, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
how many fans
even know what a good punt or kickoff is?
by cntrlalt on Nov 18, 2009 1:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes it is a popularity deal..I agree with you guys..
There are players unfortunately that are hurt that will still be voted in..It is a bit of an honor for the players egos I guess, but pales when compared to an entire team effort that wins the big one..Every year players get voted in and have no ring to show for it..That was hilarious that Skins fans did that..If you think about, though??..They voted a team not an individual…Of course the team they picked was another form of “popularity” contest..Could you imagine if fans had to vote for teams?..There would be a total deadlock..They would have to hire Al Gore as a consultant to demand a re-count..lol
by Bobbiblue on Nov 18, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Pharaoh
Ramses got a shout in SI’s power ranks…if only it was for doing something…
Jerry,
Please cut Antonio Pierce.
Thanks,
DB
by DukBudr on Nov 18, 2009 2:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I hope no Giants make
the pro bowl, being that its being played a week before the Superbowl, they wouldnt be able tp play and if any are deserving and didn’t get voted in, they would take it out on our SB opponent.
p.s.
I hope I’m not joking….lol
by BigBlueCrew_jfl on Nov 18, 2009 5:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
WHAT!?
C.C. BROWN DIDN’T MAKE SAFETY! RIGGED! RIGGED I TELL YA!
by RolloT on Nov 19, 2009 7:20 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
CC for pro bowl.
zorn for head coach.
by cntrlalt on Nov 19, 2009 8:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Zorn's not a head coach.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Nov 19, 2009 11:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is there a category ...
for Head Sock Puppet ?!?
by Shofner85 on Nov 19, 2009 6:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't Wade Phillips the Pro Bowl coach in 2007-08?
So I think so!
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Nov 19, 2009 6:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No it was McCarthy
Whoever loses the Conference game, their coach is the Pro Bowl coach.
And have you heard the advertisements for the Pro Bowl? I sure want to call a play for the NFC. I’d call my play in madden that nearly always works.
It’s only the pro bowl, but that’d be pretty cool
The Cowboys are the France of the NFL
-thwalls
On 3rd down, throw it to Smith.
by Willgfass on Nov 19, 2009 8:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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