they may and yea, they do seem to have the pieces. Also interesting is the fact they’ve drafted Sintim, who may be a better fit as a LB in the 3-4, and also signed Canty, who was a pretty good DE in the 3-4.

Osi’s transition would probably look like Aaron Kampman’s on GB, but he’s really just an average lineman right now, so a change may help.

I’d rather the D-Line be Tuck and Canty as ends, with a brand spankin new NT (or maybe FredRob…probably not FredRob).

Kiwi would probably turn into a terror off the edge too. He’s play LB in the 4-3 too, so it wouldn’t be all that big of a transition for him.

Definitely not this season tho. We’ll see on the future of Sheridan, and even his replacement if he runs the 3-4.

i dont think osi, while he is very athletic, could handle dropping back in coverage as some 3-4 outside lb’s are asked to do from time to time. sintim came from a 3-4 in college so he would be a perfect fit, and canty played in the 3-4 with dallas, but antonio pierce would get beat up in the middle without a couple DT’s taking on some blockers for him to get free. we would have to have a huge NT in the middle to clog up the line, which we dont have right now. i also think that tuck isnt an ideal 3-4 DE. though he is big and strong enough and does play in the middle in certain packages, he and osi excel at rushing off the edge. i like the way the giants run the 4-3 with a great signal caller like pierce quarterbacking the defense and a defensive line rotation that includes osi, tuck, kiwi, robbins, canty, and cofield.

The 3-4 is by no means new and it is not inherently more effective than the 4-3. It all comes down to personnel, and the Giants have been feeding the 4-3 system for years. As long as JTuck is our best dman we won’t be switching, because doing so would severely limit his impact.

don’t fix it…..

sort of a moot conversation at this point. Read the wikipedia entries on 3-4 and 4-3 to get a better idea of the personnel differences. The Giants are loaded on the D-line with 4-3 stars and weak in the LB corps. They’d have to trade & draft with 3-4 in mind for a few years to be in that sort of position. And again a guy like Vince Wilfork or Albert Haynesworth, this is a rare and pricey commodity.
Honestly, even with Sintim’s potential & Boley, do you want to see 4 Giants LBs on the field?

overall, I disagree with you Matt, we should NOT switch to this just cuz its “new” and what everyone else is doing.

I do think they should consider it tho, cuz guys like Sintim Kiw, Osi and Boley could be very good in it (So Simms…how does a LB unit of Osi, Sintim, Boley ,Kiwi sound?) and guys like Tuck and Canty could work well in it.

on whether Osi has that versatility. Or whether his ego would interfere with a move. Also, I put the 2 best NT’s in the league, Wilfork and Haynesworth, at an average weight of over 360. Who knows. It certainly is the missing piece. You’d sure hate to waste a No. 1 draft pick on a NT who may or may not develop! I guess with the right draft it could be done in 1 year, but at the same time that would shortchage the OL/DB needs the team has. I’ll give JR a ring and tell him to shore up those needs for 2010 and drop TC a note that he should consider a 3/4 DC for 2011, when we have the liberty to complete the draft needs.

Osi is quick and fast enough to make a transition and he would benefit greatly from facing TEs or RBs from time to time. He’s also pretty good against the run, for his weight, which is a plus.

Cofield and Canty would form a good, though unspectacular, tandem at DE.

Robbins has the size, but he lacks a motor, for example what made Jamal Williams as good of a NT wasn’t his massive size, but the fact the he never stopped moving his legs while pushing. In the present his motor is gone and his level of play suffers.

Pierce may have what it takes. For example, everyone and their mommas, questioned the Cowboys for taking Keith Brooking in a position of need after the year that he had in Atlanta at MLB. Fast forward, there’s people arguing that he’s the best ILB that our Franchise has had since the move to the 3-4.

But that’s it.

The move takes Tuck off the field for the regular packages, the Cowboys among other teams use a lot of 4 man fronts in their Nickel and Dime packages, which may give Tuck like 50% of the snaps. But 50% of the snaps off the field is waaaaay too much for someone like Tuck. The rest of the BEast would be glad, though.

I don’t think that Kiwanuka has it, I look at him and think of Manny Lawson, who hasn’t been able to completely grasp the responsabilities of being an OLB. I think that he’s a much better pass rushing DE. His run support and coverage leave a lot to be desired, and those are a must on the edge.

And I doubt that Boley has it, he would have the coverage part down, he’s fast and has some instincts for the position, but everything that I’ve seen from him makes me think that he’s soft and wouldn’t really work in a 3-4, having to take head-on a pulling Guard or Center, or shooting through their gap would be asking too much.

The Giants would need some serious drafting and to trade their best weapon, or taking snaps from him. It’s a maybe, but I’m inclined to say apples and oranges, your team can’t run it, or at the very least shouldn’t.

are you guys kidding? 3-4? Really? Just last year we had the 4th or 5th best defense in the league and now everyone wants to go to a 3-4? This year they haven’t played as well but some of that is because of the injuries, disappointing play from eli, and bad calls from Sheridan. If Spags was still here or we had gotten someone who knows how to use the 4-3 well we can have a dominant defense easily.

Besides the Ravens and Steelers get to stat pad on defense against the terrible browns….