See Ed TC is too easy of a target, thats why a lot of us just prefer to skip over TC and blame Kevin Gilbride for everything, and with the way the D has been playing Bill Sheridan is fast becoming our backup whipping boy!

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Sorry lboogie, it just popped right to mind.

is there are no consequences, much like when a politician “takes responsibility”. Sounds good, but what is going to change ?

Also if it is too all encompassing, it really means nothing. We know he isn’t responsible for global warming. So to say “it all stops with him” takes others below him off the hook, who should be held accountable, and potentially with consequences.

Not holding others accountable (with consequences) is irresponsible, for a coach. Benching CC Brown was a great step, because someone who was “responsible” suffered a consequence, and something changed.

A few more “changes” (consequences) during the bye week would be encouraging, like firing the special teams coach (only one I can think of that isn’t a suicidal move mid-season).

Off TC for a moment, but for Jim Fassel, for all of his flaws, to be banished to persona non grata status in the NFL is beyond me. The guy wasn’t a great coach. But he wasn’t horrible.
What dasterdly deed did he perpetuate for him to be branded pretty much an NFL untouchable? He’s not Ray Handley, for Crust’s sake. D. Snyder probably would have been better off with JF over Zorn, not much, but a little. Yes, Fassel’s teams had an odd habit of breaking down late in games. But, hell, he managed to make D. Kannel look respectable for half a season — even Dave Brown was looking better at the start of ‘97, reminding us of the short-lived promise he showed in ’94. And there were great moments under Fassel, even during losing seasons — Kent Brown to Toomer, defeat undefeated Broncos. ’98, Kerry Collins destroys Parcells’ Jets. In 2000 he brought what should have been a 9-7 team to 12-4, an NFC championship, a beaut of a whupping of the Vikings, and a super-bowl berth. Yes, they lost, but them even being there was more improbable — talent wise — than the 2007 Giants super-bowl. So, in short, my question: does anyone have any idea why Fassel seems to be maligned within the NFL?

Coughlin is definitely to blame for not at least trying for a TD on third and goal from the 9. Manning and other players said as much in the interviews. If he wants his players to keep playing hard for him, he needs to admit he blew it to his players. If he does so, they will continue to play hard for him. If he doesn´t then they may not. If he wants to wiggle out of it by bringing in a lot of other stuff, then he is not being very sincere.

out America’s two front war.

The Giants lose to the Chargers but as long as TC can make the changes necessary to get us to the playoffs, YOU DON’T CARE. (I will be changed to You for grammatical purposes) The Giants lose badly to the Eagles but you don’t care cause we’ll get them again at our place. The Giants get exposed by New Orleans but you don’t care cause we’ll see them again in the playoffs and make the changes necessary to beat them and anyway, they won’t go undefeated and we’ll figure out how to play them. The loss to Arizona, the underutilization of the TE, the lack of a push from the OL, the atrocious linebacker play starting with AP, the lack of a pass rush, the exposure of our defensive backfield, the mediocrity of Eli in clutch situations, there are countless problems that are NEVER ADDRESSED but YOU DON’T CARE cause TC is our guy and he’s righted the ship before and didn’t we win that SB just 2 years ago? So many of you seem to live in a world where each game is mutually exclusive of every other game. And we have as our head coach a man who lives in that world as well. He learns nothing from week to week. He makes no changes, or small changes, and expects a different result. And so we get cutesy blog headings blaming Tom Coughlin for everything. And the blog acolytes jump right in with their laundry list of oh-so-funny things (Pearl Harbor, the Lindbergh baby kidnapping) that we should also blame TC for. With rare exception in the comments to this heading, most of you are just fine with TC and the way things are going. Someone clearly joking writes Fire Coughlin and the immediate response is And Hire Who. I have been advocating that Coughlin and the two coordinators MUST ALL BE FIRED AT SEASON’S END. Not a soul has advocated firing Coughlin NOW but many of you seem to enjoy creating the specious argument so you can knock it down. This team has been in a downward spiral since Plaxico shot himself but the lasting damage wasn’t to his inner thigh or even to his freedom. The lasting damage has been shown to be a direct hit on the Giants as TC made FEW IF ANY CHANGES at the end of last season and after a 5-0 start against less-than-stimulating opponents (I know, the Cowboys at their place, a quality win but there were so many holes even in that win) the lack of change is criminal. But very few of you care cause we’ll go 5-2 or 6-1 or 7-0 down the stretch and then anything can happen in the playoffs and weren’t we the Road Warriors just 2 seasons ago in the magical run to the title? Far too many of you look at each game ahead as also mutually exclusive to the other games. A season in any sport is a living, breathing organism and what happens one week, if not addressed, or barely addressed, will fester and burst and kill that season. To that end I give you all the problems we, all of us, have pointed out all year. THAT HAVE NOT BEEN ADDRESSED. So keep on saying YOU DON’T CARE, keep thinking that the intransigent, unable to change Tom Coughlin will work miracles and overcome his own handicaps and the added handicaps of Gilbride and Sheridan and injuries and poor execution. The worst thing that could happen to this team would be to make the playoffs as a mediocre, filled-with-holes 9-7 or 8-8 team. Because you’d all be jumping up and down saying good ol’ TC, he got us to the playoffs. BUT NOTHING WILL HAVE CHANGED. We will remain a mediocre 9-7 or 8-8 or maybe even, if the stars align, 10-6 team. And problems will not be addressed and next year will play out like that. But YOU WON’T CARE since you live in a world where what happens on Sunday has no bearing on any other Sunday. BTW, if you really didn’t care, there’d be no need for this blog. And please, take your shots, I can take it (not like Pacquiao or Cotto which shows how little you care by breaking into a boxing blog in the middle of Giants talk). I’ll just say this: I CARE. And at season’s end, if Coughlin and his two coordinators are not gone, I will still care. But please, I will clearly care more if they are gone.

Glad you mentioned the Straw Man logical fallacy. It’s used to often by BBVers with an axe to grind.
The latest developments (in the public statements by coaches) indicate more disarray behind the scenes than i anticipated—the lines of authority are hopelessly complex and inevitably lead to the confusion we see on the field. Priority # 1 has to be simpliying/clarifying them. Confused players execute properly by accident /happenstance.

I believe that the current healthy Giants are simply overmatched. The penalties and blown plays stem from trying to play beyond themselves. With Osi, Tuck, Canty, and Bernard with Alford coming off the bench they have a good defensive line- Robbins and Tuck both need to go. In the defensive backfield, Thomas is a good nickel back but Ross needs to start. Even when Phillips returns they need another safety. At linebacker, Sintim is the future and Boley is a big improvement. They need a new middle linebacker. No coach could have won with what we now have on the field.
On offense, the line is not getting the job done- all the third and fourth and shorts they have not picked up and all the red zones failures are not the fault of Eli, but the failure to move the defense back even three feet. Jacobs is having a poor year and Bradshaw is playing hurt. Could Brown have picked up the slack? good question, in my opinion. The rash of injuries is at the heart of the Giants’ problems, not the coaching staff.